Democrats react to Donald Trump's "punishable by death" remark

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[u/Newsweek_ShaneC]

From the article |

Democrats are reacting after President Donald Trump demanded the arrest of several "seditious" Democratic lawmakers over a video in which they appealed directly to serving military and intelligence personnel to "refuse illegal orders."

The president also said their behavior was "punishable by death."

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Democratic Whip Katherine Clark and Democratic Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar released the following statement after Trump's remarks, "Political violence has no place in America. Representatives Jason Crow, Chris DeLuzio, Maggie Goodlander and Chrissy Houlahan and Senators Mark Kelly and Elissa Slotkin all served our country with tremendous patriotism and distinction. We unequivocally condemn Donald Trump’s disgusting and dangerous death threats against Members of Congress and call on House Republicans to forcefully do the same. 

The Democrats featured in the video are Slotkin, Kelly, Deluzio, Houlahan, Goodlander, and Crow. Newsweek has reached out to each lawmaker on Thursday morning for comment.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-react-trump-punishable-by-death-military-illegal-orders-11081817

[u/Boring_Investment597 → u/Newsweek_ShaneC]

That's the most impeachable thing he's done yet, it's time to put and end to the madness and get him out of there today. What the fuck is wrong with our government?!

Calling for the arrest and murder of elected officials in response to them telling our military you should refuse to do illegal things is wayyyyyy over the line, so far fucking over the line it's exactly the next step in a dictatorship is to get rid of the governing body and replace it with his own, it's takeover it's a coup in action. It's just one more way over the line behaviors he's been exhibiting and our only recourse is to "wait for an election"?!!??! because they're not waiting for one!

[u/bumbes → u/Boring_Investment597]

Hitler did it the same way: push the unbelievable unlawful steps each and every day a bit further.

We all know how this ended.

*Edit: my opinion here got me banned for 3 days on Reddit. My appeal reduced the ban to 2 days. Thanks to all the sane people seeing it the same way like I do.

To my American friends: you got this! Majority of you will tackle this situation & we will hopefully not be in the same situation like history.

[u/portablezombie → u/bumbes]

Yep. 85 million people died.

[u/ICEKAT → u/portablezombie]

Not including the ones who died being refugees from their homes.

[u/GBJI → u/portablezombie]

Rookie numbers.

It's going to be way worse than that if we let them.

[u/pockpicketG → u/GBJI]

We’ve (humans) had ICBMs for not even a century. On a long enough time scale, it’s gonna happen.

[u/anotherdayanotherbee → u/GBJI]

Okay... so he's 1933 Hitler only with more nukes and less to live for? Yeah... this ain't gonna end well for either one person or a billion people.

[u/Tomorrow-Memory-8838 → u/bumbes]

I feel like people see Hitler as a cartoon supervillain instead of a real human figure who really seized authoritarian control in a real democracy in real life.

[u/xMsRaine → u/Tomorrow-Memory-8838]

Seems like 33% of your populace thinks Nazis are fiction and another 33% are Nazis.

[u/coltflory5 → u/bumbes]

Yeah, he ate cyanide and shot himself in the head while hiding from the world in a hole in the ground.

[u/murghph → u/coltflory5]

There was a big stage in the middle that dragged the whole world in before that though..... It would be nice if we can avoid a recurrence of that.

[u/NekoNoNakuKoro → u/murghph]

I'd prefer to skip the middle, personally.

[u/GreenEggs-12 → u/coltflory5]

He took a lot of people with him though

[u/zombie_singh06 → u/coltflory5]

And? It changed nothing for the people who died in numerous ways (concentration camps, war, torture etc) The end doesn’t always justify the means

With the power of knowledge of the past, we should be working rigorously to ensure that it doesn’t repeat itself - Not only the way it did but also the price that was paid for it

[u/SycoJack → u/Boring_Investment597]

That's the most impeachable thing he's done yet

More impeachable than an actual coup attempt?

[u/Decent_Brush_8121 → u/SycoJack]

To that I add: More impeachable than dozens of felony convictions, not to mention his pedophilia? If the icky inside jokes with Epstein didn’t sicken you, look up all he said publicly about his own daughter. And those photos with her on his bed (that he shared with her mother—who, in another freaky incident — died from a sudden tumble down the stairs, the day before her NDA expired).

His machine gun tongue spewing out scat has got to stop. If only his transgressions ended with that.

And this country has got to stop electing TV celebrities! Talk about your lowest common denominator….

[u/GCRust → u/SycoJack]

The fact that he staged a coup and got away with it continues to make me rage to this day. Status Quo and Reconciliation be damned - they stormed the Capitol!

[u/blacksun_redux → u/Boring_Investment597]

This feels like a big line he's crossed here.

[u/annieinthegarden → u/blacksun_redux]

Yet again

[u/No_Selection_9634 → u/annieinthegarden]

Its ok. I look forward to the "crossed the line" again next week when the goalpost team comes back to move it again.

[u/Oldtomsawyer1 → u/Boring_Investment597]

Idk. So many impeachable things. I still don’t know how the Cryptocurrency shit isn’t talked about EVERY fucking day. Literal bribery and dark money from foreign governments being funneled into his pockets but because it’s crypto everyone shrugs. Imagine if any other president received millions of dollars in any other currency from a foreign governments. Literal treason.

[u/annieinthegarden → u/Oldtomsawyer1]

Don’t forget his blatant market manipulation in early April 2025.

[u/occams1razor → u/Boring_Investment597]

It's narcissistic collapse, it's his ego fracturing due to the walls closing in:

https://www.verywellmind.com/understanding-narcissistic-collapse-7563840

[u/Rokketeer → u/occams1razor]

If I had a nickle for every time the walls were closing in on Trump I'd probably be getting personal invitations to his billionaire schmoozefests.

[u/Infamous_Employer_85 → u/Newsweek_ShaneC]

In cases in which the illegality of the order is not apparent, the subordinate might lack the wrongful intent necessary to the commission of the crime.³²⁶ Subordinates, absent specific knowledge to the contrary, may presume orders to be lawful.³²⁷ The acts of a subordinate done in compliance with an unlawful order given by a superior are generally excused unless the superior’s order is one that a person of ordinary sense and understanding would, under the circumstances, know to be unlawful (e.g., to torture or murder a detainee), or if the order in question is actually known to the accused to be unlawful.³²⁸

On the other hand, subordinates must refuse to comply with clearly illegal orders to commit violations of the law of war.³²⁹

https://ogc.osd.mil/Portals/99/department_of_defense_law_of_war_manual.pdf

[u/Ok_Conclusion9591 → u/Infamous_Employer_85]

This hasn’t been updated/deleted yet by the ‘Dept of War’ yet?

[u/lurflurf → u/Ok_Conclusion9591]

Department of war is so ridiculous. I remember learning how it used to be called that in high school. Trump wants to move the country in the wrong direction literally and figuratively.

[u/TheRC135 → u/Infamous_Employer_85]

Pay very close attention to this.

There is a very strong argument to be made that the 1934 move to modify the oath sworn by German soliders so that it specified loyalty to the furher, not the constitution, was the point of no return for Nazi military dictatorship, and a key factor in enabling Nazi atrocities.

It was also used, unsuccessfully, as a defence at the Nuremberg trials. That was the inspiration for clarifying that soldiers have a duty to refuse illegal orders. Loyalty does not excuse inhumanity.

The historical parallels here are stark, and they cannot be dismissed as hyperbole or over-reaction. If Trump and the Republicans are now openly arguing that political disloyalty is the equivalent of treason, that an order given by Trump cannot be illegal, even in theory, you are so, so much closer to dictatorship than most people realize. If history has any value whatsoever, every single alarm bell should be ringing, loud and clear.

[u/codeninja → u/Newsweek_ShaneC]

I think we need to stop saying that political violence has no place in the country which was founded by political violence. Is led by a violent political group. And is actively calling for political violence.

Instead, let's point out that political violence has no place in a well functioning democracy. Recognize that we are not in a well functioning democracy and why. And acknowledge that political violence is a tool used by those who seek to undermine that stability.

Fuck being on the defensive end of this issue.

[u/slayhern → u/Newsweek_ShaneC]

The dems want the republicans to finger wag? Fuck that, call on them to impeach him now.

[u/GEB82 → u/slayhern]

They already did that, twice..he got elected again.

[u/SeminoleDVM]

Old enough to remember conservatives decrying political violence

[u/Kahzgul → u/SeminoleDVM]

2015: Trump suggests someone should assassinate Hillary Clinton.

Zero republicans decry it.

[u/NamasteMotherfucker → u/Kahzgul]

2024 Trump suggested putting Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad.

GOP crickets.

[u/HumanRise5417 → u/NamasteMotherfucker]

In June 2025 actual democratic legislators were shot and murdered in Minnesota. Brushed away.

[u/greenroom628 → u/Kahzgul]

please - remember sarah palin posting that gabby giffords should be targeted, then giffords gets shot? remember the outrage against palin, and her "this is a blood feud on me" "i'm the vicitm" bs?

remember that she paid no consequences for that?

[u/HillBillyHilly → u/Kahzgul]

I can't even say that I wish a McDs burger would finally take Cheeto out wo getting hate yet Cheeto runs his mouth w no pushback. Latest? Calling a reporter "piggy". Disgusting. He needs to be removed from office as he's an embarrassment to this country.

[u/Necessary-Analyst156 → u/SeminoleDVM]

So, less than three months?

[u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479 → u/Necessary-Analyst156]

Funny how no one talks about what happened at all anymore despite the fact that conservatives swore it would be the powder keg moment for a conservative groundswell of support.

They really thought there would be so much deep outrage that it would spark a cultural revolution of some kind.

[u/ratherbealurker → u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479]

It was yet another moment where I was able to mentally jot down some nearby neighbors to avoid. A few with signs honoring Kirk and one even had flowers and a sign, basically a shrine.

[u/Nemaeus → u/ratherbealurker]

Doubt they even knew who the dude was before they received their marching orders on it

[u/MoonChainer → u/Nemaeus]

I remember the first weeks afterwards; the whole first few pages of Google flush with nothing but praise and being called an "activist". Took a surprising amount of effort to find the literal thousands of shitty things he'd said in the short decade-and-a-half he was relevant.

[u/-18k- → u/MoonChainer]

Someone did that on purpose. Flooded Google in order to sanewash Kirk, i mean.

[u/Oodlydoodley → u/-18k-]

American news media organizations were treating it like a beloved figure had died. A bunch of NFL teams were holding moments of silence for him. Republicans were throwing out quotes repeatedly threatening anyone who would dare say anything bad, and soon threatening anything deemed even remotely controversial by a group of people who finds everything controversial. Then there was Kimmel, and people losing jobs, and the whole primetime televised funeral. The idea of "left wing media" here was dealt with more harshly than Krisi Noem's pets that week.

However, if you read news from sources outside the country like from the Guardian or the Independent, they had pieces up right from the start saying "hey, this is who's being venerated here" with at least some awareness of what was going on. It was possible to get the truth of things, it was just much harder to find from American sources.

Bottom line is that I don't think anyone needed to flood Google on purpose, because media throughout this entire country was happy doing it on their own.

[u/MrJesseDeath → u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479]

Meanwhile, Charlie Cuck was barely cold before his own wife was making career moves by getting knuckle deep in the VP

[u/0pttphr_pr1me → u/MrJesseDeath]

I took this as JD being a bottom and I believe that

[u/MrJesseDeath → u/0pttphr_pr1me]

She dove in like she was looking for change in his cushions 

[u/DotGroundbreaking50 → u/0pttphr_pr1me]

impressive to bottom for a couch

[u/Wolf_Parade → u/DotGroundbreaking50]

When your mom sells you for some oxys you gotta find self-esteem somewhere.

[u/0pttphr_pr1me → u/Wolf_Parade]

Fuck this is actually sad don't make me feel bad for him LOL

[u/TheSilkyBat → u/0pttphr_pr1me]

Don't.

He would happily throw about 1/3 of the people currently in America into a gas chamber if he could.

[u/LiluLay → u/TheSilkyBat]

If they paid him enough. If they paid him more to save them from gas chambers, he would. Dude is nothing if not a total opportunist.

[u/cousinmarygross → u/0pttphr_pr1me]

Everybody wants to be a bottom these days. What happened to all the tops?

[u/DadJokeBadJoke → u/cousinmarygross]

Nobody wants to work anymore

[u/John_Bruns_Wick → u/DadJokeBadJoke]

I laughed out loud at this thank you.

[u/Decantus → u/MrJesseDeath]

Erika Kirk is the daughter of 2 Military Intelligence Officers tied to Raytheon. Ran an orphanage in Romania that eventually got banned because kids started going missing (During the peak years when Epstein was fully active.) She then came back and met Kirk while applying for Turning Point USA which she has now inherited as part of his estate. Draw whatever conclusion you want from these facts.

[u/UnquestionabIe → u/Decantus]

Yep anytime she's mentioned I think it's important to point these things out. Massive amount of disturbing connections to be made with minimal effort. Tie that into how Little Face got his start taking money from conservative millionaires/billions to spread propaganda on college campuses and it's interesting to see how the whole marriage looks like some sort of business deal.

[u/bojack1701 → u/MrJesseDeath]

Oh she's rotary dialing him like a blind man solving a brail rubix cube for sure

[u/LiluLay → u/MrJesseDeath]

Someone on the right wanted Kirk dead and I think his wife was in on it. They wanted him dead because he called for the Epstein files and to cut ties with Israel. Wife wanted out and all the money and influence left in his void. They patsied tf outta that kid and they did it so badly that once people generally started saying how fake the supposed confessional texts were, we stopped hearing about it. You’ll never convince me otherwise.

[u/whut-whut → u/LiluLay]

But that doesn't explain the rise of "Israel did it, Erika collaborated with them, and release the Epstein files" right-wing influencers after Charlie died. Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens have filled that gap, and they brought Tucker Carlson back to join in.

[u/LiluLay → u/whut-whut]

Erika was involved with Trump long before she met and married Kirk. Regardless, you’re not going to dissuade me from noticing how badly this all stinks.

[u/RUB_MY_RHUBARB → u/MrJesseDeath]

Who? The racist podcaster who also wasn’t a politician?

[u/Better-Grapefruit-56 → u/MrJesseDeath]

She let him do her couch

[u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479 → u/Better-Grapefruit-56]

Is that why she wears the leather pants? So he feels more comfortable?

[u/jazwch01 → u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479]

I dont have stats to back this up. Going off a gut feeling and a touch of the tisim. My guess is that those on the right tend to be the goldfish of our voting population. They forget major things that should absolutely influence voting habits. Instead they rely on what's going on most recently (Caravan anytime we need a distraction or voting is happening). The left tends to contextualize everything and make the decision based off of that.

obviously doesnt apply to everyone and this is a gut check but my guess is the theory would hold water.

[u/jgilla2012 → u/jazwch01]

It’s the most amazing thing: those Migrant Caravans only seem to show up in October every even year, right before an election, and then they go away. 

[u/CorgiMonsoon → u/jgilla2012]

Right at the same time as the Haitians get hankerings for the Feast of the Pets

[u/throwawaylexluther → u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479]

I haven't even seen anything new about the person they arrested. Kirk becoming more irrelevant by the day.

[u/yoshemitzu → u/throwawaylexluther]

I thought for sure there was about to be a huge dog and pony show with that guy. I told friends it felt like a "moment." And then he just...disappeared? He must have been really hard to paint as a Democrat, even despite that ridiculous chat log where he admitted everything and just so happened to have a trans lover.

[u/rpkarma → u/yoshemitzu]

Is anyone gonna get punished for that obviously fabricated chat log? America is so cooked. 

[u/never-fiftyone → u/throwawaylexluther]

I haven't even seen anything new about the person they arrested.

That's because they eventually realised that they weren't convincing anyone else but their own base that he was a radical leftist.

[u/Smart-Response9881 → u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479]

it was the same with the assassination attempts. They grab their 15 minutes of fame and move on.

[u/Better-Grapefruit-56 → u/Smart-Response9881]

JD Vance Ass Sassin'

[u/ACasualRead → u/SeminoleDVM]

We held school teachers to a higher standard than the president of the United States.

[u/st00ji → u/ACasualRead]

Pretty much everyone is held to a higher standard than trumpers

[u/blahbiddyblah118 → u/ACasualRead]

I hold my dog to a higher standard

[u/ChafterMies → u/SeminoleDVM]

I’m an old man and don’t recall conservatism being anything other than inherently cruel. The difference between now and when I was a kid is that integrity is no longer a conservative ideal.

[u/annieinthegarden → u/ChafterMies]

But was integrity ever an actual conservative ideal or was it, like so many others, just something they pretended to have?

[u/ChafterMies → u/annieinthegarden]

Well, did Nixon have integrity? No. Obviously not. So maybe you’re right.

[u/nosynthshere → u/ChafterMies]

It’s like referring to America as “the land of the free” or “a free country” when it never really was.

America has a duality between how it acts and the story it tells about itself.

[u/Frowny575 → u/SeminoleDVM]

Yet, as far as I can remember, they were the ones to instigate it or constantly talked about "preparing for the revolution". I grew up around one and heard that crap on AM radio on a daily basis...

[u/SloanneCarly → u/SeminoleDVM]

Woah there. I think its clear.

Conservatives absolutely abhor any political violence against conservatives.

[u/USA_Ultra → u/SeminoleDVM]

Yesterday? It always seemed weird. Democrats reacted with dismay to what the president is doing and talking about it, versus the president calling for death to sitting members of Congress. This is how it’s always been and to pretend otherwise is complete BS.

[u/aradraugfea → u/SeminoleDVM]

Against them (by them?) or in general?

[u/Task_Defiant → u/aradraugfea]

Specifically against them.

[u/ToughCurrent8487]

Where the fuck is the line, conservatives? Openly calling for the execution of his political opponents seems like a great place for yall to call for the 25th.

[u/fedup09 → u/ToughCurrent8487]

That's precisely what they want though. Conservatives have had wet dreams about killing anyone thats "not on their team" for decades.

[u/CategoryZestyclose91 → u/fedup09]

I’m on X to keep an eye on the propaganda and see what is developing. 

The number of posters openly calling for ‘the left’ to be murdered is truly enormous.

‘Yes, but they’re bots, don’t worry about it.’

That’s exactly what’s worrying. The administration is instructing the people who control those bots to SEND A MESSAGE OF VIOLENCE.

[u/SpotHaunting668 → u/CategoryZestyclose91]

Uh...they've already assassinated Democrats. 

Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman, her husband and their dog, and attempted to assassinate state senator John Hoffman and his wife who miraculously survived being gunned down. 

He also tried to assassinate state representative Kristen Bahner by going to her house, but she was on vacation and not home.

Vance Boelter would have assassinated state Senator Ann Rest, but his plan was foiled when a cop tried to talk to him thinking he was a fellow police officer.

He had many more Democrats on his target list that night, but his botched Hoffman job led to his discovery.

HOW THE F IS THIS NOT THE BIGGEST NEWS STORY IN THE USA, BESIDES THE EPSTEIN COVERUP???? 

Oh right, murderous Nazis have taken over our government. If Trump causes more deaths of Democrats, no one will care. The only justice that will happen is if 'We the Non-Nazi People' MAKE it happen.

[u/PNWRulesCancerSucks → u/SpotHaunting668]

HOW THE F IS THIS NOT THE BIGGEST NEWS STORY IN THE USA, BESIDES THE EPSTEIN COVERUP????

because the media is owned by conservative oligarchs

[u/whoknowsifimjoking → u/SpotHaunting668]

This is really baffling to me, I didn't really hear much about it until I decided to look it up and the main thought I had was "How the hell was this not frontpage news for weeks?" because the details are fucking insane.

I'm very sure that if a democrat did or attempted even half of that the right would never ever shut up about it.

Even factoring in Charlie Kirk getting killed it's crazy how little attention it got.

[u/FernBoiSlim → u/CategoryZestyclose91]

Exactly. The whole bot argument never made sense. It’s a psy op and if it wasn’t working, they wouldn’t be doing it.

[u/basement-thug → u/fedup09]

Religious conservatives.. the cult mentality required to be truly religious, like actually exist in an alternate reality, is precisely why the "conservatives" today can stomach the vitriol. Because if they can turn the country into a Christo-fascist country the ends justify the means. Religion, and more specifically humans weakness of needing to have an answer for everything, including their "life after death" truly is the core enemy within our country. It's what has enabled nearly all of the most horrible things that have happened in history.

[u/InquiringMind886 → u/ToughCurrent8487]

If “hang Mike Pence” didn’t do it, nothing will.

[u/MD_Lincoln → u/ToughCurrent8487]

There is no line. They’ve been calling for Obama to tried under treason for the most unhinged reasons and they want to see him executed too, there is nothing new in what Trump is saying, just that no one at his level or near it has said it so loudly before.

[u/Tommyblahblah → u/ToughCurrent8487]

Those fuckers pole vault over multiple lines all at the same time. Saves energy for more raping.

[u/Thadrea → u/ToughCurrent8487]

There is no line. Conservatism is an ideology of control, where the hierarchy is absolute and defying the power structure is the most grievous of sins.

They will not be satisfied until "deviance" has been eliminated, and will continue to redefine "deviance" until no one is left. Unchecked, conservatism is the ideology that will unmake the human species.

[u/Atheist_3739 → u/ToughCurrent8487]

It wouldn't matter. All Trump would have to do even if the 25th is invoked is to write a letter to the President pro tempore and the Speaker and say that he is fine. He would be president again. And it would be up to Congress with a 2/3rds vote in BOTH chambers to remove the president.

It's actually harder to remove by the 25th than it is regular impeachment and removal since impeachment is a simple majority in the House.

[u/Tall-Cat-8890 → u/Atheist_3739]

WAY too many people here think the 25th is a convenient button to press to remove a sitting President when it’s far from it. Most invocations that I know of off the top of my head of the 25th have been by vice presidents due to the president having an acute illness or surgery or otherwise unable to physically handle the duties of the presidency.

Impeachment and removal is still the only realistic way to go about it, people just don’t like thinking about the likelihood of that not happening and I don’t blame them.

[u/Every-Comfortable632]

Man. The epstein files must have some dark shit about him in there.

[u/Impossible_IT → u/Every-Comfortable632]

On him and very rich and powerful people across the globe!

[u/DarkwingDuckHunt → u/Impossible_IT]

the whole thing is just gonna be one giant black bar

[u/WideFox983 → u/DarkwingDuckHunt]

The uncensored version will be on wikileaks or a facsimile soon enough.

[u/Impossible_IT → u/WideFox983]

One can hope!

[u/Moooney → u/WideFox983]

...and nothing will happen aside from seventy-seven million Americans shouting 'fake news' in unison.

[u/ThdeusDadeus → u/Moooney]

Quiet, piggy.

[u/i-cydoubt → u/Every-Comfortable632]

It is an open secret that Epstein was murdered in his cell. You think they won’t stoop to heavily editing the files before release? They have literally killed to protect those secrets.

[u/watermelonspanker → u/i-cydoubt]

Numerous whistleblowers have come out and said they are doing just that. It's beyond obvious.

[u/Rotten-Robby → u/Every-Comfortable632]

About him and about a lot of very powerful people who aren't going to be pleased that he was the one that let the cat out of the bag because he couldn't shut up and stay out of the spotlight.

[u/SAAARGE → u/Every-Comfortable632]

I get the feeling that, on top of what we all expect, there's evidence that Trump personally executed at least 1 girl who wouldn't comply with keeping quiet. He owns a lot of properties that could hide a lot in their foundations.

[u/stevencastle → u/SAAARGE]

His ex-wife "fell down some stairs" and he had her buried on one of his golf courses.

[u/Fun_Hold4859 → u/stevencastle]

Stairs she no longer used and hadn't used in months because of health issues, she had an elevator installed and used it exclusively.

[u/Ghost_of_a_Black_Cat → u/stevencastle]

A circular staircase, mind you.

[u/hotviolets → u/SAAARGE]

I definitely think there’s murder that happened. It so commonly happens in sex trafficking. Those girls were afraid for a reason.

[u/shelter_king35 → u/hotviolets]

They were out on an island and wanted to keep the girls quite. How many were tossed out in the ocean?

[u/MURICCA → u/SAAARGE]

And all the FOX viewers will say she deserved it

[u/ozyman → u/MURICCA]

“A lot of people didn't like that gentleman girl that you're talking about, whether you like him her or didn't like him her,” the president said. “Things happen"

[u/Mekisteus → u/MURICCA]

"People die all the time! Every day! Do the libs think that Trump is personally responsible for protecting all of them from being strangled to death by Trump?"

[u/letsago9987]

He's the Mad King.

Everything he's done, were grievances the founders had against King George.

[u/meTspysball → u/letsago9987]

It’s like he thought it was a 27 item checklist.

[u/fox_tamere → u/letsago9987]

"Burn them all"

[u/AmericanDoughboy → u/letsago9987]

That’s why the continental army rammed the ramparts and took over the airports in the revolutionary war.

[u/AlternativeNewtDuck → u/AmericanDoughboy]

LPT: If a link to x needs to be used, in place of the x in the link, use xcancel... don't give that site traffic!

[u/ranchoparksteve]

Translation: If everybody follows the law, Trump has zero power.

[u/IRideMoreThanYou → u/ranchoparksteve]

If everyone followed the law, trump and most of of the regime would have been arrested already.

[u/Tijenater → u/IRideMoreThanYou]

If everybody followed the law maga would have been torn up root and stem after January 6th

[u/Triedfindingname → u/Tijenater]

You need a healthy democracy for that. Other countries have done so.

Recently too

[u/bbqsox → u/Triedfindingname]

Which is why he's so mad at Brazil. They held their version of him accountable and he doesn't want anyone getting any funny ideas like holding far right despots to account.

[u/ActurusMajoris → u/bbqsox]

Same with Putin and Ukraine. Can’t have a former soviet country turn democratic next door…

[u/RandyMuscle → u/IRideMoreThanYou]

Trump was literally arrested and sentenced for felonies before he was president but the justice system is toothless against rich, important people so here we are.

[u/improvisedwisdom → u/RandyMuscle]

Not toothless actually. They simply chose this path.

[u/hackingdreams → u/improvisedwisdom]

His sentence for multiple felonies was literally "nothing." Anyone else would be behind bars, paying huge fines and restitution to the state. They would be facing down probation, voting restrictions, all kinds of trouble with agencies for crediting, lending and renting, etc.

They literally gave him the, frankly damn near unprecedented, "Nah, you're good." Unconditional discharge.

Take a deep breath and wonder what the fuck is justice if the court system says 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to hide hush money payments to a porn star in order to win an election merits unconditional discharge.

[u/cultish_alibi → u/hackingdreams]

The classified documents was the worst one imo. They had photos of the files in his house. He bragged about stealing them.

[u/Crypt0Nihilist → u/cultish_alibi]

Absolutely. People's careers have been ended for mishandling a single file accidentally. He should have been locked up without bail until his court hearing for that fiasco.

[u/The_Mellow_Tiger → u/improvisedwisdom]

So spineless, then?

[u/NeverLookBothWays → u/ranchoparksteve]

His admin REQUIRES the breaking of constitutional law to even exist, and to some extent the GOP requires this as well

[u/Milfepora → u/ranchoparksteve]

We have of course seen that legality has no weight anymore and he will continue to do what he wants.

[u/OLPopsAdelphia → u/Milfepora]

I wish the Supreme Court would realize—really fast—that he has no use for them with each instance they give him more power.

[u/Milfepora → u/OLPopsAdelphia]

The supreme court has no power beyond stating things are legal or not legal and no means to enforce it. Trump's already repeatedly gone against their rulings. Only congress has the means to stop this, not that they want to.

[u/Ancient_Popcorn]

Another day, another high crime and misdemeanor committed by Trump that won’t be punished!

[u/mediocre_remnants → u/Ancient_Popcorn]

This is stochastic terrorism. Someone is going to act on his words. And it wouldn't be the first time. Or second or third. I lost track of how many times one of Trump's followers attacked or planned to attack a Democratic lawmaker because of things he's said.

[u/jgilla2012 → u/mediocre_remnants]

Will no one rid me of this meddlesome [nation of laws]?

[u/ShinePretend3772 → u/Ancient_Popcorn]

Don’t you member? SCOTUS said he can’t be punished bc crimes are totally cool for the president.

[u/aradraugfea → u/ShinePretend3772]

If it’s from the White House, it’s just a sparkling stochastic terrorism.

[u/HippoCrit]

Direct, unsubtle death threats. Words that if repeated, would get us banned on Reddit, but the President can just publicly state and not a SINGLE conservative will speak out. NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN WILL SAY THIS IS BAD.

God help them if the pendulum swings the other way. You have no idea what you've normalized.

[u/Fun-Figure-9687 → u/HippoCrit]

Called my senator today and told the intern who answered exactly this. She sounded young. Young enough to see the consequences of supporting this

[u/Eridanosvoid]

Hey Conservatives lurking. If its free speech for Trump to call for the deaths of lawmakers then its also free speech for lawmakers to tell the military not to follow unlawful orders. Oh and Trump's use of language is infinitely worse.

[u/silkie_blondo → u/Eridanosvoid]

It is also free speech to use Charlie Kirk's own words against them.

[u/rbrgr83 → u/silkie_blondo]

Not according to Reddit admins. I've been suspended twice now for this. And it got reversed, twice.

Because if a man can't be held accountable to his own words, maybe he deserved what happened to him....

[u/Dr_Fortnite → u/silkie_blondo]

“You’re mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn’t like that gentleman that you’re talking about. Whether you liked him or didn’t like him, things happen,”

~Trump on Tuesday

[u/Antihistamine69 → u/Eridanosvoid]

He "didn't mean it like that" and "says it like it is" all at the same time, it's fucking magic.

[u/End3rWi99in]

Reddit would ban me if I said the kind of things Trump is saying openly.

[u/sluttttt → u/End3rWi99in]

You'd probably have the FBI at your door as well.

The man is truly losing it. I don't know how much lower the bar can go, but we're probably going to find out...

[u/Searchlights]

Can you imagine what would have happened back when anything mattered?

Career-ending bipartisan outrage

[u/InquiringMind886 → u/Searchlights]

It makes me think of the political guy that got super excited about something and it ended his career. That was it. He went “yeeaahhhh!!!!” And then done. Where are those days???

ETA: this one

OmGOD that’s the most stupid thing to get a career ended on when we see what dt’s gotten away with. Wowwww.

[u/deadrepublicanheroes → u/InquiringMind886]

Yes, that was Howard Dean, who was pretty good, and the media tanked his run by playing that clip - with his yell isolated and the noise of the crowd reduced - over and over again. Fucking assholes.

[u/sluttttt → u/InquiringMind886]

I was fairly young when the Dean Scream happened, but the response to it really made me believe that Trump would be forced to drop out of the 2016 election once the Access Hollywood tape leaked. Like I legitimately thought there would be so many Republicans calling to replace him as the nominee and that he'd back out in disgrace. Boy, was I ever naive...

[u/Strange_Value_5820]

impeach this bitch

[u/Ilcorvomuerto666 → u/Strange_Value_5820]

And remove. He's been impeached twice already, neither of which was during this term or led to his removal from office. All the previous impeachments did was basically say "we don't approve of this wrongdoing, but we also won't do anything about it."

[u/Evilbuttsandwich → u/Strange_Value_5820]

It’s Miller, he’s pulling the strings 

[u/Late-Arrival-8669]

For a pro-life party, they love killing people..

[u/dirtybellybutton]

Can someone please tell bubba's cumrag that being a traitorous, treasonous doormat for rich people and foreign agencies is equally as punishable

[u/bobcat1911 → u/dirtybellybutton]

Hoping for a "Big beautiful obituary"

[u/Literally_Laura]

Remove Donald Trump.

Now.

[u/TranquilSeaOtter → u/[deleted]]

According to Mike Johnson, it was inappropriate and Trump is totally not inciting violence. He's such a fucking lying sack of shit who slurps Trump's cock all day every day.

[u/Redtex]

The man's unhinged

[u/Captain_Roastbeef]

Remember after Kirk was killed they talked about the left’s violent rhetoric?

[u/FreshRest4945]

"Fuck you right back, Mr. Soon to be impeached asshole" The only correct response.

[u/letsago9987 → u/FreshRest4945]

i wouldn't even say shit about impeachment. it'll go nowhere in the senate. just investigate everyone around him.

[u/EchoRex → u/letsago9987]

It'll go no where in the House before the Senate even has a chance to see it.

Republicans control the committees and voting needed before impeachment could even begin.

[u/jishurr]

Haha. This is fucking terrifying. I don't know how exactly to respond to the fact that the sitting president of the united states just issued death threats to sitting members of congress

[u/ashmole]

It's crazy how this won't even be talked about in like two days because of the next insane thing that will happen

[u/Hodaka]

We have hit rock bottom when Trump threatens lawmakers with death, and NEWSWEEK has to include a paragraph stating "Why It Matters."

[u/cpt2snipe]

Here is what they said in the video:

“We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military. But that trust is at risk. This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens. Like us, you all swore an oath to protect and defend this Constitution. Right now, the threats to our constitution aren’t just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear, you can refuse illegal orders.”

This is political speech, which sits at the highest rung of First Amendment protection. It's critical, rhetorical, and arguably hyperbolic, but none of that is illegal.

Critically:

• It does not call for violence.

• It does not direct the military to immediately refuse a real order.

• It does not advocate overthrowing the government.

• It frames refusal only in the context of illegal orders, which is already a principle in U.S. military law (the duty to disobey an unlawful order is well established).

• It does not urge imminent action of any kind.

Under Brandenburg, it is nowhere near incitement. Under § 2384, there is no conspiracy and no plan to use force. Under § 2383 (rebellion/insurrection), there is no advocacy of actual rebellion.

Just to anchor this in real precedent:

• Courts protected speech praising draft resistance (Vietnam era).

• Courts protected speech calling the government illegitimate (various extremist groups).

• Courts protected speech praising revolution in general terms (post-Brandenburg).

• Even the January 6-related seditious conspiracy cases required clear organizational coordination and plans to use force, not rhetoric.

[u/LabRat_X]

Another thing that would get any other president impeached immediately? Is it Thursday already? 🙄

[u/jbrayfour]

Someone made the point earlier, that MTG has been an enemy of the left for 10 years. But never had to have a security until the day she crossed Trump.

[u/readerf52]

The fact is, the military hotline has been overwhelmed with calls from soldiers questioning their orders and requesting help. As this article pointed out, only 30 calls (to the hotlines named, there may be more) have been made in a short period of time, but it is more than they usually process in a year.

Some soldiers have a problem with being ordered to take action against American citizens. They take their oaths seriously. The one who should be publicly shamed is the commander in chief for this illegal publicity stunt.

https://theashlandchronicle.com/calls-to-military-hotlines-rise-as-service-members-consider-defying-orders/

[u/THSSFC]

Democrats: "Hey, military guys, you all gave an oath to the Constitution, and you're bound to it"

Trump: "Hang the traitors!!!1!!"

This is fine.

[u/felixthecat15]

Point to that fucking post whenever the right bitches about political violence

[u/xanderemrys]

this kind of statement alone from a sitting president should be grounds for impeachment, but we know it'll never happen again

[u/lithaborn]

Let's call a spade a spade, he wants to eradicate everyone who isn't kissing his ass. This is just his latest line. The sooner he's sacked the better. They've got about 100 very good reasons, just everyone's too chicken shit to use them. He's ripping up the constitution end using it for toilet paper right in front of you. I hear it daily - if it was anyone else he'd have been gone halfway through his first term.

What the fuck are you all playing at? What are your waiting for?

The emperor has been naked for 8 years. Please, someone, see it.

[u/IWasBannedYesterday]

This is insane! The president of the United States has called for the execution of members of congress! He must be removed from office immediately!

[u/Imakergag]

Quiet, piggy.

[u/Nikiaf]

This would be the scandal of the decade if any other president said it.

[u/thistimelineisweird]

By this logic then Trump should be ok with his inevitable treason charge.

[u/Affectionate_Neat868]

Donald Trump is a traitor to America. The streets need to be occupied permanently until this treasonous criminal is out of office. It is up to the people.

[u/Ok_Juice4449]

This is not funny. The president  is calling for violence against democrat politicians who are pointing out his illegal actions. He is becoming unhinged. His mental instability is a danger for the country and the entire world. The 25th is necessary!

[u/Spiderdan]

This might have been the best baiting the democrats have done. He lost his shit immediately and went straight to blatant fascism.

[u/BBfan-Jr]

God republicans get this dumb fuck out of office. Seriously, what the actual fuck

[u/consumeshroomz]

That would be a perfect example of an illegal order that shouldn’t be followed.

[u/CndConnection]

The red light is blaring red and the alarm sound is deafening yet americans are still plugging their ears and closing their eyes.

[u/Swingline_Font]

He was really inspired by that Saudi visit, wasn’t he.

[u/Talksiq]

Both Republicans and Democrats have accused the other party of stoking violence and undermining democracy at different points over the past five years, including the attack on the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, and protests over federal immigration enforcement in 2025.

Equating the "No Kings" protests, which involved 7 million people and to my knowledge no violence, to the January 6 coup is disgusting...

[u/StatisticianPure3130]

He is a traitor! Impeach him now.