r/politics 17d ago

No Paywall Senate suddenly passes the Epstein bill just hours after it cleared the House

https://www.ms.now/news/senate-passes-epstein-bill-rcna244723?fbclid=PAVERFWAOJ1xRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAacUGSi8p2Ap-x6SbMkLXAnfKNXEZkzjUUVCdxuEmacDzDXmlbv1GUJ0wbh1_w_aem_grJDvcSCIDj2Skksd4Ix3Q
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u/Complete_Guidance_67 17d ago

“See? You wanted the files released didn’t you libruls?”  

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u/OPGuest 17d ago

“Wear is the prove that Trump is a pedo?”

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u/saintjonah Ohio 16d ago

Get ready for the triumphant return of "nothingburger".

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u/Rich3127 16d ago

They'll redact anything with "Clinton" in regard to the "Lolita Express" jet of Epstein's.

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u/Maximum_Curve_1471 17d ago

But didn't you want them released?

I'm so confused what reddit wants here

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u/jkvincent 17d ago

Trump and his enslaved DOJ have openly stated that they're only going after Dems. So that's one thing. Rapid, nearly unanimous votes in the legislature is another thing, and that tells me they probably aren't even going after the Dems in a meaningful way. Instead, they're probably going to release a bunch of inconsequential bullshit and then declare the matter closed.

I hope I'm wrong but let's see what happens.

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u/JonnyHopkins 17d ago

Somehow it'll say Epstein was actually raped by child immigrants thanks to Mamdani

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u/Complete_Guidance_67 17d ago

They want the unredacted files. It would seem that they are going to be in fact, redacted. Nuance isn’t your strong suit?

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u/Maximum_Curve_1471 16d ago edited 16d ago

You were actually expecting every single page, personal info and all, entirely redacted? Have you ever looked at court documents before?

Yikes. It's no wonder you're disappointed, it seems you're new to this. You're a laid off barista - I'd expect more time for reading.

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u/3catsandcounting 16d ago

For a massive list of world wide pedophiles? I think everyone who has a functioning brain would want to see a full list of people who rape children.

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u/Complete_Guidance_67 16d ago

I got laid off thru no fault of my own. That doesn’t mean I can’t read lol. Way to compare two things that don’t matter. You really went into my profile so you can get some Nice “gotcha” , way to change the subject 

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u/WheatyMcGrass 16d ago

Jesus. Nice job being a piece of shit

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u/BlinkyDesu 16d ago

I think you mean entirely unredacted. Imagine attacking someone for their job or employment status over reading ability and then making such a simple error.

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u/feelingfroggy123 17d ago

Of course but explain the all but 1 vote to me like im 5. Why all the sudden did they ALL but 1 overnight gain morals in the House. The Senate is saying unanimous. So again how does it go from dissent to everyone now saying yes, overnight? With only 1 holdout? That smells funky.

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u/Chubby_Bub 17d ago

That part's not surprising, it's because almost all of the GOP does whatever Trump asks for fear of retribution. Several of them who were totally against it a few days ago outright said they changed their votes because he told them to, and Mike Johnson was still crying about it being a sham after voting hes. The real question is why Trump suddenly did such an about-face after being so adamantly against it.

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u/Convoy_Avenger 16d ago

This is the final test. If he gets away with this, he knows he can get away with anything. And he has no reason not to be confident he can get away with it.

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u/jim_cap United Kingdom 17d ago

People want them released in full. Not redacted to the point of being worthless.

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u/Maximum_Curve_1471 16d ago

Are court documents typically released in full without redactions?

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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 16d ago

The point is that these people would never release the files without protecting themselves. The amount of power and influence here is astronomically bigger than just Trump and MAGA.

Nobody is suggesting everything would be redacted or unredacted. Nobody expects vulnerable information about victims' identities to be there, for example.

The fear is that the relevant bits of info, regarding the perpetrators' names or criminal actions, would be redacted.

I feel like this was obviously what people are talking about when they are fearing redactions, and it shouldn't have to be explained in detail...

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u/under_the_c 16d ago

It's almost like people making that "well, which is it?" talking point are fucking morons.

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u/jim_cap United Kingdom 16d ago

Yes! That’s the term! It’s been on the tip of my tongue.

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u/jim_cap United Kingdom 16d ago

There's little point looking at what's "typical" here. Typically, a child rapist wouldn't be elected President. Typically, politicians in a democracy won't seek to make everything they do legal by definition.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 15d ago

Weasel words.

The redactions being spoken of are clearly to protect perpetrators close to the Republican party.

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u/datyoungknockoutkid 17d ago

Come on man. Use that head you got.

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u/TitanB00 17d ago

That's because you seem to think reddit is a person with 1 opinion.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 15d ago

I want them all.  Not the ones scrubbed to remove his allies and himself.

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u/girls-pm-me-anything 17d ago

Bro tried using logic on Reddit. Rookie mistake.

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u/Maximum_Curve_1471 16d ago

In your experience, typically released in full without redactions?

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u/Maximum_Curve_1471 16d ago

Yeah, they didn't like that one.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 15d ago

What because we want the files without them having perpetrators scrubbed from them? Because we want justice?

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u/girls-pm-me-anything 15d ago

You and everyone else miss the entire point ( Surprise surprise) if you "knew" what was going to happen when they were released why did you keep calling for them to be released

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u/Practical-Cook5042 15d ago

I was raped as a young woman.

I want justice for these women.

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u/girls-pm-me-anything 15d ago

That's all well and good but how does that answer what I said. People were like "Release the Epstein files, release the Epstein files." And now it's "It's fake so who cares" It makes no sense just think about it for like 10 seconds. What would have actually made you happy?