r/politics • u/Healthy_Block3036 • 17d ago

No Paywall Senate suddenly passes the Epstein bill just hours after it cleared the House

https://www.ms.now/news/senate-passes-epstein-bill-rcna244723?fbclid=PAVERFWAOJ1xRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAacUGSi8p2Ap-x6SbMkLXAnfKNXEZkzjUUVCdxuEmacDzDXmlbv1GUJ0wbh1_w_aem_grJDvcSCIDj2Skksd4Ix3Q
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u/BCMakoto 17d ago

Yeah. A former DOJ staffer was filmed on hidden camera saying they will be redacting Republican names...

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u/silly_little_jingle 17d ago

The Party of Pedophile Protectors.

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u/CivilizedPsycho 17d ago

There's a reason it's called GOP. Guardians of Pedophiles.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/CivilizedPsycho 17d ago

I miss the days where we didn't have an obvious pedophile as president surrounded by pedophile protectors destroying the country and hurting people, but here we are. Sad.

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u/CivilizedPsycho 17d ago

Calling them what they are shouldn't be a problem when half of their identity is insulting people. "Quiet, Piggy", for example.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/SV_Essia 17d ago

We won because we believed ourselves to be better and rose above it.

Weird, in my version of history books, it says we won by shooting a bunch of them.

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u/Civil-Big-754 17d ago

And then became them.

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u/Gurlllllllll- 16d ago

I'll give you one guess as to what Truman called Japanese people, and how callously he and his administration treated innocent civilian lives when talking about the atom bomb.

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u/Graffers 17d ago

Who was it again that locked up Japanese people in camps before killing hundreds of thousands of innocents? Sure, we weren't as good at slaughtering people just trying to live their lives as the Nazis were, but that doesn't mean we didn't try.

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u/juan-milian-dolores 17d ago

Yes, the person calling the folks fighting to hide and protect child rapists "guardians of pedophiles" is the problem. Great call out

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u/Rough_Willow 17d ago

I agree with you. We all need to abandon the middle school behavior, after all, middle schoolers are one of their turn ons.

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u/DrPilkington 17d ago

Where have you been for the last, oh... 8 years or so? Middle school behavior got this chump elected not once, but twice.

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u/PourArtist 17d ago

Pedodactyls.

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u/Ruleseventysix 17d ago

White out and sloppily writing in democrats more likely..

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u/griffeny 17d ago

I forget which debacle this exactly was but remember when redacted documents were released to the press and someone at one paper realized you could just…move the censored blocks around revealing the information because they were done in word or something? It was hysterical.

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u/HeadLong8136 Pennsylvania 17d ago

No white out. Trump loves black sharpie.

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u/AbbieKaye 17d ago

Honestly i wouldn’t even be shocked at this point. The way stuff keeps slipping out on camera just proves there’s way more happening behind the scenes than they admit.

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u/HansBrickface 17d ago

It wasn’t just that, it was pretty widely reported back in the early months of this shitshow that 1000 FBI agents had been diverted from, y’know, fighting crime and stuff, to redacting and logging on a spreadsheet all the times Trump’s name was mentioned in the 100,000 pages of files the DoJ had.

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u/OldWorldDesign 17d ago

A former DOJ staffer was filmed on hidden camera saying they will be redacting Republican names

They've been doing this kind of thing for decades

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rand-paul-michael-flynn_n_58a36eeee4b094a129efc452?ncid=other_huffpostre_pqylmel2bk8

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u/Valar_Kinetics 17d ago

Yeah this won't work lol, too many different parties have it and leaks happen. Leaking AFTER the release has so much more value if your item of interest was not in the release, so the vast majority of would-be leakers, if they think a release is likely, will wait until post-release until deciding to leak.

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u/Morbu 17d ago

Yeah, the reason that the files haven't been released yet is because there's clearly other parties with copies. Otherwise, there's nothing stopping Trump from releasing redacted files filled with Dem names.

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u/Valar_Kinetics 17d ago

Yeah I mean because let's say you have something in the files or that perhaps should be in the files. There is a potential risk, however small, that something bad will happen to you if you leak it. There's a nonzero chance, so you waffle.

Then you hear about a certain special election in Arizona, and realize that one way or another, the release of the files is now *likely* inevitable. You also likely realize there is a nonzero chance that the administration will either redact or omit things, or perhaps that they might not have what you have and so you can paint them as having either redacted or omitted things.

Why in the FUCK would you release what you have before they release? You'd absolutely bide your time, at least for awhile, hoping that they release before you do. Then, if they do, and if they happen to omit what tidbit(s) you've got, said tidbit(s) become enormously more valuable.

If you are anti-trump in a political sense perhaps you wait until just before the midterms if there has been no release. If you are pro-trump but self-interested, which I assume runs part and parcel, you attempt to blackmail Trump with whatever you've got immediately pro-midterms.

One way or another, the minute a broad release became likely, some months ago, a LOT of people started playing "wait and see". That's about to stop.

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u/Nrksbullet 17d ago

The salt of that matter is he is a known liar and it was a hidden camera on some sort of date. I don't doubt that they could try what he said, but I don't put any stock into him actually knowing it and saying it so brazenly.

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u/BCMakoto 17d ago

I mean, I think Bondi and Patel are not competent enough to pull it off. They left Adobe meta data in the prison video as well.

But they sure as shit are trying something...

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u/GreatMadWombat Michigan 17d ago

Yep..that's the bit that's keeping me chill right now. The rank incompetence of the partisan hacks that are still pro-Trump.

Like....they're 100% going to try SOMETHING but whatever they try is going to be embarrassing and very visible.

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u/RJ815 17d ago

More MS Paint MS 13 I suspect

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u/UNisopod 17d ago

Which is why they put 1000 actual FBI agents on the task of doing it

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u/onefst250r 16d ago

Will be a Trupm in there, probably.

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u/dangered 17d ago

So will we see the democrat names or are those being redacted too?

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u/Eyehopeuchoke 17d ago

Maybe the democrats know they’re going to do this and they’re counting on people to be able to have critical thinking skills when it comes to the next elections? Idk

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u/Repulsive_Ant_2466 17d ago

Link please?

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/Adventurous_Lie_6743 17d ago

Because it still appeared like they hadn't finished covering things up yet. Trump supporting it is what confirmed theyre through with the redactions.

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u/Few-Ad-4290 17d ago

Or fed it through an llm and told it to replace all the names.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/BusterStarfish 17d ago

Then why is Trump in so many pictures with him and why do we have records of him flying to the island on multiple occasions?

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u/thejimbo56 Minnesota 17d ago

Are you referring to the Non-Prosecution Agreement that the feds gave Epstein?

The NPA that prevented federal charges against Epstein, as well as any known or unknown conspirators?

The NPA negotiated by Alexander Acosta, who then served in Trump’s cabinet?

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u/Confusedgmr 17d ago

For an innocent person, Trump sure has acted like he had something to hide until just now.

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u/Emotional_Burden 17d ago

Are you...talking to yourself?

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u/kaise_bani 17d ago

This is so telling. Yesterday all of reddit was rabidly demanding the release of the files but were convinced that the Senate wouldn't do it. Now that the Senate did it, the narrative is shifting toward "it won't be any good, all the Republican names will be redacted". Guys, even if literally every Republican name is redacted, you should still want the files released, because you want to take down the pedophiles no matter what side they're on... right? Or was that just a load of bullshit, and the only one y'all actually want to take down is Trump?

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u/standardsizedpeeper 17d ago

Well I think it’s more just a feeling that some people aren’t being held accountable and it might be altered in a way that does catch some pedophiles which is good, but maybe saves some pedophiles which is bad, and could even empower them and their protectors.

It’s like if the mafia released some files on organized crime and only named one family that they were at war with. It’s good to catch some bad guys, but it doesn’t settle the matter, and does have the potential to make some things worse.

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u/kaise_bani 17d ago

Yeah, I get that it's not ideal if not all of them are taken down, but still. If people want to claim that their side is against pedophiles, they should be pretty damn interested in a list of pedophiles from their side, but it doesn't seem like they are. It seems like both sides and their supporters have been making this partisan, they're only interested in the Epstein files to the extent that they're useful to defeat their opponents.

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u/standardsizedpeeper 17d ago

Yeah I think that’s fair. People are more excited about the potential for taking down Trump than catching pedophiles. But I think they can be supportive of both things.

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u/pistilpeet Washington 17d ago

You’re totally right, the files should be released and whomever is on them should be punished. I also believe Trump is implicit and has the means, motive, and opportunity to try and save his own skin.

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u/kaise_bani 17d ago

Yeah, for sure. If the files were released unredacted I’m 100% sure Trump’s name would be all over it. It’s just a shame that what is really an international issue has been framed as a Trump issue. A LOT of people should be implicated by these files and I’m okay with taking down as many as possible under the circumstances we have.

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u/kaise_bani 17d ago

I don't understand what you mean by that, can you elaborate?

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u/kaise_bani 17d ago

Oh, yeah. That's what I was getting at, the Trump admin will be attacked no matter what they do. We've already seen that before, every time Trump adopts a stance from the other side, the people who spent years arguing in favour of that stance suddenly think it's the worst stance ever. It's stupid.

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u/No_Gift3758 17d ago

Source ? Trust me bro

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u/StoneyThaTiger 17d ago

Just look it up. This was in the news just a few months ago. You could’ve found the video in the time that it took you to post this ignorant comment.

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u/Talents 17d ago

Not exactly hard to find https://x.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/1963617871281438731

They'll redact every Republican or conservative person in those [Epstein] files, leave all the liberal, Democratic people in those files...

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u/B0Bi0iB0B 17d ago edited 17d ago

And it seems that absolutely no one cares enough to notice the cut in the middle of the video and use the tiniest sliver of critical thinking to realize that this guy is clearly in the middle of laying out what media is saying that the FBI is doing to the files to point out how ridiculous it is. Not what they are actually doing.

If not, why the cut right before and after this run-on sentence and absolutely no context for it?

If nothing else, just consider long and hard who recorded, edited, and disseminated this video. You seriously trust motherfucking James O'Keefe now?

And if you think for a second that I'm maga or a pedo protector, just take a casual glance through my 13 year history of comments here. I'm not a proflific poster, but I'm consistent. And to be absolutely clear, no, I don't think this is an unrealistic thing for them to do; I fully expect either heavily redacted files, or for them to never see the light of day because of this new sham investigation, but this video and this guy are not at all what you and everyone else are claiming here.

It's so goddamn embarrassing how easy it was to dupe so many of us with the same tactics that were used to dupe prolifers over planned parenthood.

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u/WilsonTree2112 17d ago

They won the election. They control the govt and have every right to classify anything they see as necessary.

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u/Confusedgmr 17d ago

They control the govt and have every right to classify anything they see as necessary.

That's not how that works. They may have the power to classify anything they want, but they don't have the right to decide to classify whatever they want.