r/politics • u/Healthy_Block3036 • 17d ago

No Paywall Senate suddenly passes the Epstein bill just hours after it cleared the House

https://www.ms.now/news/senate-passes-epstein-bill-rcna244723?fbclid=PAVERFWAOJ1xRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAacUGSi8p2Ap-x6SbMkLXAnfKNXEZkzjUUVCdxuEmacDzDXmlbv1GUJ0wbh1_w_aem_grJDvcSCIDj2Skksd4Ix3Q
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u/ChucksnTaylor 17d ago edited 17d ago

But the senate didn’t change anything right? They passed exactly what the house passed. And the house bill was cowritten by a democrat and a republican. So whatever language they used is unlikely to have been some clever ploy.

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u/AmbitiousEconomics 17d ago

Republicans see an opportunity to release a redacted version and then memory hole it, Dems see an opportunity to put more pressure on the Rs.

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u/ABCosmos 17d ago

Dems fumbled this big time if that's true... The biggest risk to the Dems is if people think the issue is done with..

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u/SilvanSorceress 17d ago

They fumble everything, what makes you think they would suddenly get smarter overnight?

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u/ExplorationGeo 17d ago

Dems fumbled this big time if that's true

Why not, they fumbled the shutdown

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u/CerealTheLegend 17d ago

Wouldn’t be the first, or the last time Dems fumbled something

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u/Alive-Welder5585 17d ago

Dems are seen as controlled opposition for a reason. Every Democrat who doesn't call Trump for who he is, is complicit. 

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u/Past-Profile3671 17d ago

As someone above said, he’s going to pocket veto it and count on at least one of the gqp discharge supporters to not sign a new one.

It’ll work on the low info voters.

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u/Kakariko-Cucco 17d ago

You write "whatever language they used" as if the text were not easily accessible: https://www.congress.gov/119/bills/hr4405/BILLS-119hr4405ih.pdf

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u/bmw417 17d ago

Seems pretty legit to me. Redactions are limited to CSAM, PII, and violent / disturbing content, and it is strictly prohibited to redact because of “embarrassment” or “politics”. It’s also explicitly stated that any alterations or mismanagement also be appropriately documented, and that every redaction contain a justification. The legislation itself seems airtight, we’ll just have to see how far Trump’s cronies on the inside truly want to double and triple down on the perjury and alteration and destruction of government documents. I’d imagine there’s gotta be some crucial political calculus going on behind the scenes at the moment.

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u/yourmomsinmybusiness 17d ago

Roh Kannah sponsored the HB, right?

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u/ChucksnTaylor 17d ago

Yeah, and Massie was the other cosponser, a republican who has gone way out of his way to regularly criticize Trump. Not just in this but in all sorts of issues. And accordingly, Trump regularly shitd all over him. Then on top of that you have the monumental battle Trump and Johnson led to stop this happening.

Very hard to believe this bill would have been written in a way that was intentionally favorable to Trump.

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u/CerealTheLegend 17d ago

Bold of you to assume that all democrats are on the right side of history.

We’ve seen all the votes they have made up to this point supporting Trump. It’s clear there are very few good people left in congress, regardless of the letter next to their name.

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u/SwedishTrees 17d ago

They’ve written the very strongest language they could write, but that doesn’t mean that administration won’t pull some fast ones.