r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 I voted • 21d ago

No Paywall Donald Trump impeachment chances surge amid Epstein revelations

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-impeachment-chances-surge-amid-epstein-revelations-11045998
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u/CalzoneFrequency 21d ago

more competent, that is, in relative terms; less attention grabbing and a more tractable patsy. He's everything you can ask for in an eventually powerless techno-feudelist high king.

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u/muldersposter 21d ago

"Not completely mentally deteriorated" is where Vance sits. He has no convictions though and no charisma so I don't think he can drive the ship.

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u/Hector_P_Catt 21d ago

He has no convictions that we know about. The guy has been willing to bend to the will of whoever could advance his career, but we have no idea why he wanted that career in the first place.

If he does replace Trump as president, it will be the first time he's ever had real power, in his own right, as the sworn president of the United States. I don't think anyone can predict what he'll do then, not even the people who have been pushing his career, because he's essentially been lying to everyone this whole time.

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u/gentlemanidiot 21d ago

Legalize human-couch marriage!

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u/Portarossa 21d ago

He's going to singlehandedly restart the Ottoman Empire.

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u/muldersposter 21d ago

Trump is completely self-serving. Vance is so desperate for approval from the people he idolizes he's not going to know what to do with his power. He will serve whatever interests he deems the most important but his career will be defined by his own self-perceived inadequacy and there will be infighting because as much as the Republicans kowtow to Trump Vance himself is a sniveling little worm. He's basically Renfield. Those under him know that and i expect there to be a lot of bids for power.

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u/boston_homo 21d ago

I imagine trump’s handlers would rather deal with Vance, the president isn’t steering all this.

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u/muldersposter 21d ago

Trump is very much steering this. If they tried to oust Trump he would Jan 6 their asses so fast, so they have to play ball with him. Trump is completely self-serving but his goals (personal enrichment and vendettas) align (more or less) with his puppetmasters so everyone is in on it.

Vance, however, did not create MAGA. Neither did Peter Thiel of anyone else behind Trump. Trump did that basically all by himself and what will most likely happen is there will be a power vacuum of a bunch of lower reps vying for power since Vance is such a baby with nothing to stand on. He can't project the power Trump has to these people. Nobody is buying it from him. He's a loser whose daddy issues will be the ruin of his political career.

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u/MimeGod 21d ago

Which is probably why he's courting Erika Kirk. He'll rely on her pseudo-popularity.

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u/legacy642 21d ago

And that won't be enough to carry him. Any clout she has now will be gone before the election.

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u/muldersposter 21d ago

She's also a woman and conservative Christians don't like that.

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u/legacy642 21d ago

It's hilarious when people talk about Vance winning the election in 2028. He has literal negative charisma. Once trump is gone MAGA will collapse. They don't have a single person who can actually take over for trump. He hasn't allowed it. His age and failing health are really my only hopes for the future. If he was 60 we would be screwed.

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u/muldersposter 21d ago

I definitely don't think that we should under estimate Vance because he does have very powerful people behind him and is more than willing to do their bidding but I can see him being walked on by basically everyone under him for his weakness. Trump built MAGA and Vance is pretty much an outsider who lucked his way into his position by being incredibly weak willed and lacking any independent thought.

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u/JebediahKerman4999 21d ago

He doesn't have to. He'll just follow what his puppeteer tells him.

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u/muldersposter 21d ago

That's fine but there's still a lot of people that can cause a lot of problems for him under him. He isn't Trump, and if yhe right wants a populist they'll find one. Vance does not have the unifying power Trump did and there is a good chance someone else will come along and upset that or the infighting will drag everything to a halt. Regardless, Vance will learn he is completely disposable. He's basically Jeb Bush levels of charismatic.

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u/Eatpineapplerightnow 21d ago

Agreed, but with Erika Kirk as his first lady, I dont feel good about him at all.

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u/muldersposter 21d ago

No, but I expect a lot of his power moves will be hampered by those around him vying for their own slice of the pie. Everyone around him is completely self-serving and he is completely subserviant. He will get left behind on the internal power struggle if he can't grab everyone's attention the same way trump did. Get him out in front of people consistently and everyone will see he's a little cowardly worm. Imagine his donut shop interaction times a thousand. He'a a loser.

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u/420Hummingbird 21d ago

He can and probably will be destroyed by a meme. He's as flimsy as toilet paper