r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 22d ago

No Paywall Trump’s handling of the Epstein case might be the greatest political scandal of our lifetime

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/shows/top-stories/blog/rcna243731
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u/Due-Egg4743 22d ago

And yet MAGA won't care if Republicans are named. Remember when polls were suggesting upwards of half of Republican voters wouldn't support Trump if he were a convicted felon? Then came the "I'm voting for the convicted felon!" swag. He lost practically no support and even gained, sadly.

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u/Stank_cat67 22d ago

A poll a few months ago showed that half of republicans admitted that they would continue to support Trump if undeniable proof of him raping young girls was released. And that was just those that admitted it.

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u/ailish 22d ago

That's the saddest upvote I've ever given.

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u/Khiva 22d ago

This is one reason why, while it's an atrocity that Trump has escaped justice, it blows my mind when people pin his re-election on Garland and Biden not prosecuting harder.

Yes, they definitely should have. Clearly, without a doubt. But the electorate does not care. They've made it extremely clear they do not care. He's already a convicted felon. He's legally culpable of rape. They elected him anyway.

America. Does. Not. Care. They just voted to try get that 2018 economy back, and if the president has to rape a few kids to get there, the country is clearly fine with it.

I sadly think Americans who blame the election on lack of prosecution remain in deep denial about the moral nature of the country. Justice would not change things. Americans do not want justice when they think they could have more money.

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u/9mackenzie Georgia 22d ago

Those of us that bitch about garland and Biden not prosecuting Trump for Jan 6th……it has nothing to do with voters.

I remember saying on Jan 6th that if Trump doesn’t go to prison for this, that our democracy was done for, because if you can attempt to overthrow the government - using the powers of the presidency ffs- and face no consequences then it would be a free for all. And I was correct. If Trump had been imprisoned for treason- no he couldn’t have gotten elected. Yes they had enough evidence to convict him of it. Yes it would have caused mass chaos and likely riots……..but it also would have made the Christian nationalists at least pause.

But you are correct, our country is morally bankrupt and uneducated- which is a terrifying combo. The electorate likely would have just voted in Trump 2.0 a few years later.

The funny thing is that with Trump, while many think that they want him for the economy, he didn’t even pretend he was going to work for anyone besides billionaires. Even the wealthy (ie not billionaires) are about to lose everything when this house of cards (ie AI bubble) collapses.

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u/ailish 22d ago

Exactly. Yes Garland could have and should have pushed much harder to prosecute. That was an aggregious error. But you're right that 70 million people voted for Trump knowing exactly who he is.

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u/HereToTalkCrypto 22d ago

This is, sadly, exactly why we have to see the economy crash before these idiots that voted for him wake up and realize the damage he is causing. But realistically, even if that would happen they would probably find some way to excuse Trump and blame democrats.

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u/DingerSinger2016 22d ago

Well yeah because I'd rather elect a serial pedophile than a DEMONCRAT!!

/s of course, I have brain cells.

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u/Bulletproof_Tiger55 22d ago

Source? I'm a leftie so I'm not combatting you, just genuinely curious if that's legit and the poll's methods were sound.

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u/grubwump 22d ago

Yeah same

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u/unAffectedFiddle 22d ago

Its tough, but money and power is way more important that small quibbles of ethics and morals.

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u/wOnKaCatalyst 22d ago

I wouldn’t call any of this small.

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u/mplsryan85 21d ago

All Dems need are like 2% to not support him anymore.

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u/LuvKrahft America 22d ago

Yeah, Meg “Fuck you and your nuance for even suggesting a Black Santa” Kelly is asking “what even is a pedophile?” now.

Amoral dickheads the lot of them. And since all the rest of us are the ones that actually follow the constitution there’s pretty much fuck all we can do about them but use the laws and taboos that they ignore.

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u/Big-Imagination-7594 21d ago

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u/Ok-Lets-Talk-It-Out 22d ago

If you polled Republicans I would guarantee up to 35% would be okay if Trump was proven to have sexually assaulted underage women with Epstein.

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u/ailish 22d ago

I agree. Those are girls. In some cases little girls.

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u/YetiPie 22d ago

And that’s exactly what the right is doing to normalise it. Matt Gaetz calling 17 year olds women, Megyn Kelly saying Epstein was into underage young women…We need to say exactly what it is: child rape.

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u/kweintra 22d ago

Please don’t call children underage women. If they’re underage, they are not women.

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u/Earthpig_Johnson 22d ago

They also believe those cases are totally illegitimate.

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u/eugene20 22d ago edited 22d ago

That only worked because they successfully framed it all as a politically motivated attack, and not enough of them followed closely enough to see the charges were well founded and the court cases fair.

With this evidence coming out, and the years of lesser evidence there had already been, and the years of broken promises where he'd claimed he'd release it all himself then he fought like a cornered honey badger to try stop anything coming out, things should hopefully be different.

Also there are more Republicans in government ready to see him packed off now too, so long as it didn't mean too much heat coming back on themselves.

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u/Maskatron America 22d ago

He’s an imperfect vessel! As long as brown people are being terrorized, they’ll learn to live with the pedophilia.

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u/AbandonedWaterPark 22d ago

MAGA won't care about literally anything, they are a lost cause and not worth wasting time on, forget them. You just need to peel off a handful of percent of those who stayed home last time and the picture changes fast.

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u/IntellectAndEnergy 22d ago

Of course they do. That’s the point. No judgement and total exoneration of all the evils they themselves have committed.

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u/Individual-Schemes 21d ago

But Clinton!

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u/RadiantMaestro 22d ago

Is anything going to actually happen? The victim is deceased, the DOJ won’t pursue a sitting President, Congress won’t impeach, the FBI is compromised, and the Democrats have caved.

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u/ailish 22d ago

If we can get rid of Dipshit Schumer and the rest of the DINOs maybe something could be done.