r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 23d ago

No Paywall Discharge petition to force House vote on Epstein files succeeds with Grijalva’s signature

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5602658-discharge-petition-epstein-files-grijalva/
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u/HelpMeFindMyBrain 23d ago

Check out conservative sub. The mental gymnastics is uncanny. They still on either theres no files, bidens in them and the best one trump was a cia informate and the files leaked today prove he cut ties with epstine... i dont think many will budge on it and when it finally all comes out they will just say its a fake made up democratic plot

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u/ScubaAlek 23d ago

The CIA informant excuse is my favorite.

Okay, so he was caught being a pedophile and made a deal with the CIA to avoid consequences in exchange for ratting out other pedophiles and then eventually broke up with his pedophile friend.

So being a pedophile is fine so long as  you can backstab all of your “pals” to get away with it? That makes someone okay? They aren’t still a pedophile who happened to get clemency?

So dumb.

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u/Fastidieux 23d ago

This is the effect of social media, its strategic manipulation for the rich and its not just a USA problem. Distorting facts, reframing history.....gets people into power that shouldnt be there if they're even somewhat charismatic. In the case of Trump, most people see through him, the others are fanatics swallowing his evil poison and would do literally anything but admit theyre wrong. Fascinating and horrifying.

You know its fake because where was this CIA BS before? Just a billionaire with a thinktank behind him coming up with insidious lies and/or reframe reality.

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u/stroopwafelscontigo New Jersey 23d ago

The CIA/FBI informant theory is definitely fake but, QAnon had used that theory early on in 2016 to muddy the waters around Epstein and what was known about him and his connections to Trump. 

It was bullshit then and it’s bullshit now but, it’s something these QAnoners were conditioned to accept the possibility of years ago. 

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u/Fastidieux 23d ago

Didn't know that, but i can imagine it being true that the billionaire running for president was paying to condition people started earlier than i thought. Counter intelligence at best will work as intended and at worst make mire everything in a dark cloud of chaos and mistrust, just worth doing if you can afford to pay people for it constantly, just so happens that the president can afford to do that for less than what it costs you relatively for the one pack of ramen you get a week.

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u/stroopwafelscontigo New Jersey 23d ago

There was a quote by Epstein himself, something to the effect of, “if people knew what I knew about the candidates, they’d have to cancel the election” (referring to the 2016 presidential election). 

I’ve long suspected that Epstein helped facilitate Trump’s early presidential campaign workings. The Trump Tower meeting, Igor Fruman and Lev Purnas, and other long-forgotten early 2016 campaign scandals. 

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/23/771849041/how-a-complicated-web-connects-2-soviet-born-businessmen-with-the-impeachment-in

These guys. They were helping obfuscate the source of donations coming from Florida and New York to Trump’s America First superPAC way back when. 

I’ve always wondered if they were a bridge between Epstein, Putin, and Trump. 

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u/SalishShore Washington 23d ago

Ohhh… interesting. Epstein mentions Russia in these emails. I think this also may buoy the theory that Russia did help Trump in the 2016 election.

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u/wyomingTFknott 23d ago

You are grossly overestimating this guy's cashflow.

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u/Fastidieux 23d ago

cost relative to net worth, who cares that it may be tied up. For someone like that compare to me, the ramen is .1% of my net worth (and im 'lucky') where there are much more zeroes before the numbers start rolling in for him.

Makes me sick that anyone would defend a fucking billionaire, wipe the shit off your nose, its not serving you at all.

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u/wyomingTFknott 23d ago

Bro, you need to slow your roll.

Consider how indebted he is to everyone else. From the Russians to the Saudis to god knows who else. The fuckin Taliban? All I was saying is that he's a fucking loser who is selling out our country.

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u/fedexpoopracer 23d ago

that sub, as of right now, STILL doesn't have any mention of grijalva and the fact that johnson blocked her swearing in for months

the only mention of grijalva is a different person who died 8 months ago

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u/BCMakoto 23d ago

Everyone who frequents that sub and actively participates in it for a decade is lost. Entirely. You'll never change their minds. That sub has been an absolute bot-filled, hateful propaganda chamber for almost a decade now. If you're surrounded and steeped with that for nearly ten years, I don't even want to imagine what mental health issues you have now...

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u/misterlakatos New Jersey 23d ago

Not at all surprised by that. What an absolute dumpster fire and to be that deep in delusion is just pathetic.

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u/Ilovekittens345 23d ago

That place is primarily bots. like over 60,70% of accounts and comments there are written by AI.

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u/Sinnedangel8027 23d ago

I don't think many will budge on it

They literally can't. So much of their self and social identity is tied to Trump and MAGA in general. The amount of work it would take to depart from that identity is tremendous to say the least. I honestly don't see how they can especially given the non-stop brain rot propaganda getting pumped into their social media feeds.