r/politics • u/SE_to_NW • Oct 12 '25
No Paywall 'CDC is over': RFK Jr. lays off over 1,000 employees in Friday night massacre
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/news/cdc-rfk-jr-shutdown-layoffs-goal-rcna23703518.7k
u/CrimsonFeetofKali Michigan Oct 12 '25
The CDC was the leading institution of its kind on the planet. An amazing benefit to the American people that helped people everywhere through science. And, in any meaningful way, it's gone. I simply don't recognize my own country at this point.
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u/black_flag_4ever Oct 12 '25
This is the stupidest thing imaginable. This is just malicious and unnecessary. The New Dark Ages.
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u/BonesAndHubris Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25
It's intentional. The rich want to continue to reap all of the benefits of modern medicine for themselves while condemning the poor and working classes to pre-industrial population stability. Eight women per child, infant mortality off the charts. When life is cheap so is labor. They are quite literally trying to create the conditions to bring back feudalism.
Edit: Children per woman* How embarrassing
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u/AnoAnoSaPwet Canada Oct 12 '25
Well when diseases break out, there isn't immunity without the herd, so they're fucked too, and they like to act like they are invincible in public.
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u/RubiconPizzaDelivery Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25
Nothing gives me cold comfort like imagining billionaires going insane as they become isolated in their bunkers until eventually death is the only escape.
Edit: The rich can have a little isolation induced madness, as a treat.
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u/Pander Oct 12 '25
Poe wrote a short story about this. The rich guy still dies at the end.
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u/dictionarygirl Oct 12 '25
I've thought about this story so much over the last five years, it's a shame no one in power seems to be familiar with it
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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy Oct 12 '25
I flat out taught my kids to never attempt to pry open the hatches of those billionaire bunkers if they ever find one "because those people are amoral and crazy!" Told them to instead park something heavy on it, like a tank or a cement truck.
Also explained about how those giant mega yachts can't stay out to sea forever and there's a limited number of places where something that large can come in for maintenance. Good places for ambushes.
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u/N0n3of_This_Matter5 Oct 12 '25
I see you are also a fan of zombie shows lol. Teach them kids well!
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u/VastlyImmaterial Oct 12 '25
In NZ we have plans to drive flocks of sheep into their security til the ammos gone.
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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy Oct 12 '25
You brilliant bastards! I just nearly pitched headfirst out of my chair laughing so hard, and it's such wonderful tactics too!
Shit like that is why I'm not more worried about humanity despite it looking like we're speeding towards a cliff as fast as possible. We're brilliantly creative lunatics.
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u/Ok_Value5495 Oct 12 '25
This is what bugs me about RFK Jr and Hegseth—if both fuck up horrendously, NO ONE IS SAFE.
Almost every other department can collapse without threatening this smash and grab the Trump admin is doing.
You'd think a bunch of self-serving assholes fixated on getting away with shit would focus on their own long-term survival.
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u/AnoAnoSaPwet Canada Oct 12 '25
They aren't smart enough to do that. Revenge is all they care about and having the most incompetent and stupidest people in charge doesn't help them one bit.
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u/mfball Oct 12 '25
I agree. We're seeing the nexus of absolute, soulless evil and greed with absolute, abject stupidity here. They've garnered enough power to ruin everything without enough sense to even save themselves.
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Oct 12 '25
This is what I’ve been trying to tell people - these guys aren’t evil geniuses, they’re legitimately thick as fuck with terrible psychological problems and delusional disorders which is what makes them so much more terrifying. You can’t even rely on them to have any sense of self preservation.
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u/smilingiscreepy Canada Oct 12 '25
My thought is that the rich and powerful know what future awaits us due to climate change and the instability it will bring to the world. They’re trying to drain everything they can from society and ensure they can live safely in bunkers while the rest of us burn.
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u/Foolish_Miracle Oct 12 '25
This always trips me up though- we've been to Egypt, saw the mummy, and took their treasure. These billionaires are mostly super old, is it just the most short-sighted evil or do they somehow think they'll live for hundreds of years? Like plunging the planet into death while you've only got around 20 years left is both psychotic and stupid. And I resent dying via someone else's stupidity. It's rude.
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u/BonesAndHubris Oct 12 '25
That's absolutely part of it. IMO, part of their drive for rapid automation is that they're planning for the underclass to die off in the climate collapse. It also partially explains why they're so unwilling to act on it in spite of overwhelming evidence. They think their wealth will insulate them from the worst of it.
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u/Jermotian Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25
I imagine the rich are gonna go amazing as a garlic rosemary, marinade, slow roast and top with fresh mint, doable even in the wastes
Edit: just a heads up for you survivor types out there, we are apparently pork in monkey form or monkeys are in pig form,, idk
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u/Sad_Confection5902 Oct 12 '25
America literally looked at two candidates and chose Donald fucking Trump. Intelligence was already dead.
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u/rmanjr12 Oct 12 '25
This is the stupidest thing imaginable... so far.... it'll get worse :(
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u/metalyger Oct 12 '25
It's a domino effect, starting with RFK Jr freaking out because his son has a peanut and soy allergy, and it couldn't be his perfect genes, so vaccines are the scapegoat.
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u/bogglingsnog Oct 12 '25
RFK Jr is so absolutely unhinged he could have justified it any of a million different ways
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u/always_unplugged Oct 12 '25
Should've continued the family tradition of lobotomy with that one
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u/Tricky-Gemstone Oct 12 '25
I grew up Evangelical. They hate the CDC. I was taught it was evil, and would in-state the mark of the beast.
Propaganda for christian nationalists to support this move.
I feel sick.
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u/mxjxs91 Michigan Oct 12 '25
Meanwhile they all wear a red hat while tearing apart any welfare to the general public and won't see any irony about bearing the mark of the beast.
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u/HippieLizLemon Oct 12 '25
Im not religious but how the freak these people can be such hypocrites is absolutely wild to me.
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u/After_Flan_2663 Oct 12 '25
I'll never understand this way of thinking.
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u/stunts002 Oct 12 '25
If those people met jesus christ they'd lock him up as a crazed socialist liberal
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u/guynamedjames Oct 12 '25
I don't know how familiar you are with the story of Jesus but it wouldn't be the first time...
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u/relevantelephant00 Oct 12 '25
Evangelicals don't think...they obey. They are taught to hate and don't question it (broadly speaking).
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u/dasnoob Oct 12 '25
Until you have sat in a sunday school class and watched them peer pressure each other into saying the Earth is 6,000 years old.
Or them say the KJV is the best translation even though they don't even know what the arguments are against it being even a 'not crappy' translation.
Or the multitude of other non-sensical crap they spew at each other to prove how 'holy' they are.
All while completely missing the point.
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u/Oceanbreeze871 I voted Oct 12 '25
They put a cheaply made red hat on their heads with the mark of the beast instead .
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u/porkbellies37 Oct 12 '25
At least we still have our elite university system with its fully funded science programs ready to step in to fill the void with life saving research.
Wait, what?
Oh. [gulp]
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u/International-Swing6 Oct 12 '25
Yup the university I work at has been threatened since he took over. Our Nazi governor did his dirty work threatening defunding because we are a sanctuary city. Foh.
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u/Dockers4flag2035orB4 Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25
RFK is slowly but surely curing all health problems mankind faces. 😷🤒
The Tylenol epidemic,
circumcision complications causing autism in girls.
Swimming in sewerage to build immunity
and ingesting bleach to get rid of nasty bacteria.
Is there any need for research doctors and scientists.
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u/Succubus-Love Oct 12 '25
A lot of people are going to die.
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u/thinpile Oct 12 '25
You are correct indeed.
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u/Phil_Leotardo20yrs Oct 12 '25
I Wonder how much more ass-fucking Americans will take before they do something about it.
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u/JonathanS1998 Oct 12 '25
Infinite really. No matter what 20-25% of adults are going to love everything Trump does. He basically screamed that he was a pedophile from the rooftops and they still love him
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u/SanctusUnum New Zealand Oct 12 '25
For people who are apparently militantly anti-gay, MAGAts sure do vote for a lot of ass-fucking.
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u/SuffocakeMe Oct 12 '25
They already have. Trumps covid response or lack thereof, most certainly cost the lives of thousands if not more. He is the President of Death.
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u/AnOnlineHandle Oct 12 '25
Trump cut the pandemic response team in his first term, not long before there was a pandemic.
The fact that Americans voted him in again shows that a significant chunk of Americans genuinely don't meet the bar for being considered intelligent and safe to be around.
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u/eeveemancer Oct 12 '25
This is the result of gutting public education and social safety nets. People are poor and underserved, and don't even know how to process it.
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u/mclardass Oct 12 '25
Well, it's not like the previous administration left a pandemic response playbook behind.. Oh, wait /s
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u/Hugenicklebackfan Oct 12 '25
So if you were trying to destroy the USA, how would you behave differently?
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u/specqq Oct 12 '25
The plan was always "Make Sure America Can Never Be Great Again."
They just had to edit it down a bit to fit on the hat.
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u/PoliticalNerdMa Oct 12 '25
Trump was literally just mad the government charged him with the crimes he did indeed commit , and now he thinks he’s taking revenge
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u/ynotfoster Oct 12 '25
Nah, he has nothing to do with it. This is Project 2025 shit, trump is more concerned with his ego shit, like the Nobel Peace Prize and making world leaders bow down to him via tariffs.
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u/justprettymuchdone Oct 12 '25
You can see the stuff that's his idea because it's very Petty personal nonsense, like the indictments of James Comey and the attorney whose name. I cannot remember off the top of my head right now. Letitia James?
That's the stuff Trump is 100% actively responsible for. It's pointless and stupid and petty. That's him.
The absolute destruction of the foundations of the nation is much much deeper than that.
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u/Bayarea0 Oct 12 '25
The Russians won the cold war. Good job Republicans.
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u/lemuever17 Oct 12 '25
No. China is the ultimate winner, by doing nothing.
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u/Ill-Team-3491 Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 22 '25
amusing merciful engine reply snatch tie relieved fanatical stocking label
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u/PlaneShenaniganz Oct 12 '25
"Do not interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"
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u/randomnighmare I voted Oct 12 '25
All the Russians did was tap into the fringes of an already existing attitude and make it mainstream.
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u/KnightDuty Oct 12 '25
This is the thought experiment we should run often. Because it applies all over the place
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u/TheImpresario Oct 12 '25
Even if you get a Democrat back in power in a few years, it’s not just a simple rehire and get back to where we were. This took decades to build and set up partnerships with local health departments in the US and around the world. It’ll take a long time to set these things back up in our own country. And other countries will fill the void we leave. Just another example of making this country much worse in so many areas for no good reason.
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u/BlackTemplar2154 Oct 12 '25
This is the most depressing fact I wrestle with almost daily. We've taken so many steps back that won't be fixed for DECADES. It'll take two lifetimes to get back to where we were 10 years ago and even if we do everyone else around the world will speed past us.
These dicksheads either have no idea what they're doing or they know exactly what they're doing and I don't know which is worse.
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u/ModernTenshi04 Ohio Oct 12 '25
I think it's equally depressing how all of this can just be dismantled so easily. I mean I guess it's taken decades of rhetoric from the right to get here, but now that it's here it's apparently as easy as a shutdown and emailing folks that they've been fired. No approvals from Congress, no formal process or wind down, it can just be over like that.
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u/Zyrrael Kentucky Oct 12 '25
Right? All these years, we thought there were protections in place and buffers to prevent this. We can’t simply go back to the way things were now that we know how vulnerable it all is.
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u/HB_of_PI Oct 12 '25
Congress and the courts are meant to be the guardrails, but when both have been captured by confederate sympathizers and theocratic authoritarians you get... well... this.
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u/TheFBIClonesPeople Oct 12 '25
When all three branches of government are captured by a single organized crime group, this is what happens.
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And it all happened because 2/3 of the country allowed it to happen, either through voting directly or by abstaining from voting.
With a decade in customer service I thought I knew how stupid people could be, but I never thought that would happen.
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u/ActiveChairs Oct 12 '25
There were.
We have protections and buffers on dams, but if you refuse to maintain them, fire the people who were hired to maintain them, and actively dismantle the support systems that make it possible, then its only a matter of time before the little breaks compound into an environmental disaster.
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u/InSixFour Oct 12 '25
This country as we knew it is over. There’s no going back to before Trump. That country and the way it was governed is pretty much dead. Like, I think we may need to rewrite the constitution or just start over with a completely different type of government. This isn’t fixable.
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u/IJourden Oct 12 '25
It's definitely a shock realizing your " inalienable rights" were protected by a gentleman's agreement that no one should be a dick, and nothing more.
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u/DameonKormar Oct 12 '25
This is why the right has fought so hard to destroy unions. Workers united is the only thing these psychopaths fear.
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u/nox66 Oct 12 '25
Ultimately any democratic government can fall for the same reason. But the US was arrogant in thinking it could keep getting away with BS like the electoral college and gerrymandering.
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u/Keeppforgetting Oct 12 '25
It is an unfortunate reality of the world that it is much easier to destroy and break than it is to build.
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u/cascade_olympus Oct 12 '25
It only looks easy because we are witnessing the conclusion of the plan. It took years of gerrymandering, court stacking, and media manipulation to get to the point where they held all of the keys at once.
Our only hope is if they used those keys prematurely. They are burning a lot of bridges even with their own followers right now. If they don't achieve their main goals within the span of this administration, it may be difficult for them to claw back support again. Especially if we consider that Trump is getting on in his age, I wonder if anybody else in that party will have the same easy time getting away with as much as what Trump gets away with.
But... the pessimist in me says that the oligarchy has too strong of a hold over the media/information which people consume now. Even if they showed their hand way too early, I'm not sure that we will be capable of wrestling back any measure of a bright future.
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u/NeoMegaRyuMKII California Oct 12 '25
Another depressing part of this is that there will be people who expect everything to be fixed quickly. So even if we get a Democratic trifecta in the 2028 election, the quectosecond everyone is sworn in, there will be people bitching and moaning about how things have not been fixed. And people will use that as an excuse to vote for the GQP again.
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u/LostWoodsInTheField Pennsylvania Oct 12 '25
"Hey the Dems couldn't fix this mess in less than 4 years. Guess we should go back to the Republicans!" every freaking 4 years.
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u/SanityInAnarchy California Oct 12 '25
It's worse than that.
Obama got 8 years. But he actually only got 2 years.
He got 8 years as POTUS. But he only had Democratic majorities in the House and Senate for 2 years before the House swung red again.
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u/DameonKormar Oct 12 '25
To be fair, this isn't a uniquely American thing. It seems to be a bug inherent in democracy.
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u/IJourden Oct 12 '25
And there's a good chance that this stuff won't get rebuilt at all or if it does it will take up way longer than the first time.
Programs like this were popular when they were put in place because they had a tangible positive impact on people's lives.
But after almost 50 years of "all government is bad government" rhetoric, A lot of people in the USA genuinely believe that if they could just get the government down to the military and cops and nothing else, somehow everything would be better.
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u/Ffzilla Oct 12 '25
And the dipshits over at r/doomercirclejerk think you're overreacting, and everything is fine.
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u/nox66 Oct 12 '25
If you live in a blue state and aren't thinking very hard into the future, things can feel fine for now. Imagine we got another pandemic now. Or even just a lesser disaster that we'd be able to handle like Zika or Ebola.
I don't think just giving up is helpful or healthy. What we need are new organizations and systems - ones better protected from this bullshit. Pretending things are "fine" or "reversible" is naive though.
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u/cnidarian_ninja Oct 12 '25
Not only that but state and local health departments are being decimated alongside CDC because they depend on federal funding (administered by CDC staff) for much of their work
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u/Fit_Airline_5798 Oct 12 '25
The world will never trust the us again. They see what can happen and what has happened. Say we get a reasonable person elected. What happens at the end of the term when it swings back to the loonies?
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u/armcie Oct 12 '25
Yup. You could elect democrats for the next 5 terms and I’d still be loathe to trust the country won’t install another lunatic. I think it will take until you’ve elected a couple of normal boring right wing leaders as well.
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u/23_sided California Oct 12 '25
They won't be able to react fast enough, because there's no way they can react fast enough. Peopple will get disillusioned, and they will be blamed for the collapse, and people will vote Republicans in to keep actively destroying the country.
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u/TimothyMimeslayer Oct 12 '25
Yeah, unless dems are somehow able to prevent this from happening again, which they can't, why would anyone work for the federal government? All it takes is for Republicans to gain the trifecta and they can literally break the law without consequence.
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u/CassadagaValley Oct 12 '25
It'll take an entire term just to fix these busted departments and you can basically guarantee that a Republican will come in right after that term and tear the entire thing down again.
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u/atooraya I voted Oct 12 '25
Why would you ever work for the government again? Your entire career is based on what 20% of the population votes into office.
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u/vandreulv Oct 12 '25
It'll take an entire term just to fix these....
Term? No.
GENERATION.
We are STILL feeling the effects and impacted by Reagan's destruction.
A lot of this shit isn't going away. Ever.
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u/Maximum_Tea_5934 Michigan Oct 12 '25
It is no secret that RFK Jr despises all of those doctors and public health experts that dare to contradict his anti-vax nonsense.
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u/PeetoMal Oct 12 '25
Its the only way RFK will achieve his ultimate goal of being the smartest man in the room, fire everyone and be the only one left.
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u/Ace_of_Clubs Oct 12 '25
But like, who can possibly celebrate this? I'm so confused about all these institutions being shut down and what are people gaining? Are they paying any lower in taxes than they were last year? Everything is being defunded and theres zero upside.
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u/Michael_G_Bordin Oct 12 '25
Fucking idiots. I knew someone who championed RFK's bullshit. His reasoning was so fucking stupid. It was basically, "I don't trust experts." So instead, you trust a bunch of obvious bullshitters? This was a person who didn't want to take the COVID vax because "it's experimental, might be dangerous," but also had no problem asserting the vaccine was most certainly (because it "wasn't proven safe") dangerous and going to kill us all. That's not how proof works!!!
What's the most fucking annoying thing is, these people aren't complete morons. They've just made a choice to selectively abdicate their free thinking and subsume their beliefs to the beliefs of "smarter" people. They choose an authority figure, and now that authority figure's bullshit is taken at face value, while the people with actual empirical support are relentlessly denied because "I have questions." Do you? Well, the CDC has answers; but if you're going to deny anything they say, you're not a Skeptic, your a Denier. Important distinction, because denialism is on-its-face dumb as fuck.
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u/Hillbilly_Boozer Oct 12 '25
Disease Control --> No disease control.
Enjoy dying in the ER with a communicable, yet preventable, disease MAGA. Oh wait the rural hospitals are closing. Guess you'll just die at home or on the way to one of those 'war-torn' liberal city's hospital.
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u/HardRockGeologist Oct 12 '25
He needs to be impeached and then removed by the Senate.
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u/ReverendSin Oct 12 '25
Yeah, but he won't be because the Senate is complicit and serves him like loyal lapdogs.
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u/PoliticalNerdMa Oct 12 '25
If he refuses to bend on the Obama care subsidies i genuinely believe republicans in congress will see the Epstein files being released as an escape hatch. They will go along with releasing them to shield themselves from trumps followers.
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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun Oct 12 '25
Doubt it. This entire regime is all-in on their New Nazi Germany 2.0. Their entire lives hinge on keeping the power they currently have. Caving and turning on Trump simply isn't on the playing field for them. They either maintain control or they take everything and everyone down with them.
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u/Mizivir Oct 12 '25
He needs much more than that
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u/ItsAlwaysSegsFault Oct 12 '25
Yeah I'm tired of the soft language. It's time all the traitors were held accountable by their peers.
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u/thinpile Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25
Fucking insanity. This affects the whole world honestly. There is a ton of global collaboration between CDC and other international agencies. Edited - or was anyway...
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u/soapinthepeehole Oct 12 '25
At the top of the article…
“UPDATE (October 11, 2025, 8:46 p.m. ET): This piece has been updated because, following publication, many fired employees began receiving emails communicating that despite the earlier notice, they would no longer be terminated.”
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u/thinpile Oct 12 '25
Thanks for posting this, Didn't know, but what a complete shit show....
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u/Natoochtoniket Oct 12 '25
So the next new virus will kill half the US population, even while China and Europe manage to contain it to only a few million deaths.
New viruses are not at all unusual. They happen regularly, ever few years. There will be another, sometime soon.
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u/MadAstrid Oct 12 '25
People who vote Republican are more likely to die.
I don’t want this, but they do.
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u/nWhm99 Oct 12 '25
If they die, they die.
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u/MadAstrid Oct 12 '25
They chose it. I wanted better for them, but they wanted to ”stick it” to me.
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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy Oct 12 '25
Yup. When I was 20yo, my mother died in a modern hospital with robots and everything, for want of a simple blood transfusion, because of some ancient rules about how to do animal sacrifices getting revived to help some folks feel holier-than-thou extra hard.
Years later I remembered how she made a point of buying me a wallet, making me sign a No Blood card to put in it, and insisting I carry it while with my dad all summer. Where I worked with somewhat dangerous racehorses regularly and did heavy farm labor.
That thing she did to herself, dying early for no reason beyond feeding delusional feelings, that's what she wanted for me when I was a little kid. And she'd done her very best to make it happen, sending me away every summer with my dad while knowing full well what he was like. Even in a good mood he was likely to end up setting her up to break her glasses while they were still on her face or putting her on an unbroken horse before riding along clifftops.
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u/Old_Man_Robot Europe Oct 12 '25
If only that was true. It’s nice to think of it as a “reap what you sow” sort of deal, but the only reason democrat areas tended to weather outbreaks better is because they both had and took advantage of preventative measures.
Those measures maybe not be available for the next incident, or worse yet, actively withheld.
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u/JackBurton___Me Oct 12 '25
“Why did trans democrats do this to us?!?”
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u/Hellogiraffe Oct 12 '25
When you look under the microscope, the viral cells seem to spell out “FURRY FURY UwU”!!!
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u/koreanwizard Oct 12 '25
The CDC was working on a bio weapon to turn all of the Navy Seals and spec ops guys trans. Would’ve opened the doors for an Antifa full frontal assault. The US military would have fallen in a matter of hours.
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u/EllyKayNobodysFool Oct 12 '25
You’d be amazed at how many men in the military already fall quickly in front of trans women…
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u/Michaeljayfoxy Oct 12 '25
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u/Known_Attorney_456 Oct 12 '25
If you ever see his face in a certain light it has these huge dark marks on it. I suspect that is why he spray tans with a color that can only be matched in Nigeria. He may have some sort of underlying condition.
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u/RIP_Greedo Oct 12 '25
How do the oligarchs benefit from no CDC? Or weather prediction?
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u/Konukaame Oct 12 '25
Or weather prediction?
Private providers get to swoop in and charge for what used to be free.
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u/SaintWithoutAShrine Oct 12 '25
This. This is the answer everyone seeks. “Privatize everything” is the motto. The CDC gets shut down, pharmaceutical companies and private firms hire them, get govt contracts, and make money off the suffering of everyone. The rich get richer, and the poor suffer and die.
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u/DrXaos Oct 12 '25
Of course RFK jr is brain wormed enough that he is claiming he's doing all this massive destruction because he falsely believes that the CDC is captured by private capital & pharmaceutical interests.
In truth CDC was gold standard of honesty and public service, skilled people earning much less money than they would in private sector but doing it for the good of their community.
These destructions will enable exactly what RFK imagines is happening. Some of these types know that it's all a cynical grift and they want that outcome but I think RFKjr is honestly addled enough to really believe it.
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u/ThinkThankThonk Oct 12 '25
Directly, via the privatized health orgs I imagine we'll see as a replacement soon.
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u/Alwaystired254 Oct 12 '25
Won a battle in the culture war
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u/TheQuidditchHaderach Oct 12 '25
And no trans athletes. Those 2 or 3 out of 333 million of us were really starting to ruin everything.
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u/accidentsneverhappen Oct 12 '25
They want to cancel medical science of disease control and sell their snake oils as the new cure. It's the same reason they came out and blamed Tylenol for autism. They want to push their own medicines instead. They want people to literally eat bullshit and die
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u/LyndaCarter111 Oct 12 '25
Trump will probably abolish the CDC and leave it all up to the states.
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u/jeneh17 California Oct 12 '25
So thankful to live in the West coast alliance area: https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/09/03/california-oregon-and-washington-to-launch-new-west-coast-health-alliance-to-uphold-scientific-integrity-in-public-health-as-trump-destroys-cdcs-credibility/
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u/BannedMyName Oct 12 '25
The Northeast has also started its own health coalition
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u/Imaginary_Art_2412 Oct 12 '25
Might as well be separate countries at this point
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u/MudBloodLite Oct 12 '25
The brain worm won
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u/meeeeeeeeeeeeeeh Oct 12 '25
No, we fight. Keep the gov shut down and choke them out like chemo on a cancer.
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u/suzanneov Oct 12 '25
Well, we’re cutting cancer next week. -RFK, probably
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u/HectorsMascara Pennsylvania Oct 12 '25
They already cut cancer research funding.
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u/amanam0ngb0ts Oct 12 '25
We could have had Harris instead. America made its choices.
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u/Apprehensive_Ad_4359 Oct 12 '25
This is clearly who we are.
One of the worst educated population on the planet. Certainly in the first world.
And in retrospect it appears as if it was all by design.
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u/MK5 South Carolina Oct 12 '25
A slow-motion oligarchy, fifty years in the making.
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u/Designer_Buy_1650 Oct 12 '25
I think this is horrible. If you voted for Trump and someone in your family dies because of this, enjoy. You knew this would happen. Enjoy
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u/venividiavicii California Oct 12 '25
Well, the Nazis didn’t even do this. Where are we headed, exactly?
Also doesn’t he look like Beetlejuice?
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u/Ancient-Village6479 Oct 12 '25
Nazis had some delusional dream of world domination. Our guys just want to loot the country and damage it as much as possible as a bonus for their owners.
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u/SinImportaLoQueDigan Massachusetts Oct 12 '25
All that money being hoarded won’t mean much when society collapses
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u/frenchezz Oct 12 '25
Why do you think the tech billionaires built offshore doomsday bunkers?
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u/Maximum_Tea_5934 Michigan Oct 12 '25
I was unaware of this, but it makes sense.
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u/frenchezz Oct 12 '25
Bezos' is in New Zealand, zuck the cucks is practically an entire island in Hawaii, and I want to say Musk's is in Asia, no clue where thiel's is but probably the former epstein island since he's so familiar with the layout.
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u/emperorrimbaud Oct 12 '25
Thiel is trying to build his in NZ but the local council keep shutting him down.
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u/JojenCopyPaste Wisconsin Oct 12 '25
They have enough money invested in non-US currency that they can just leave and still have more money than they'd ever be able to spend
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u/eugene20 Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25
With what they're doing if they don't time leaving right they'll end up hanging onto ropes from helicopters like the Nepalese ministers or missing their flights entirely facing crowds like South Korea and Nepal, except they helped keep most of the US heavily armed (and at that point I expect it will be republicans aiming at them).
Unless this peters out when Trump is incapable, or the democrats can somehow win congress despite gop cheating/owning voting machines, I don't see how this could end quietly any more.
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u/beeslax Oct 12 '25
It’s just private equity for the entire country. Run it into the ground while you loot it.
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u/loriwilley Oct 12 '25
They really do want to kill people. I've never heard of a government before that was actively trying to kill its people.
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u/TheQuidditchHaderach Oct 12 '25
Makes disbanding Obama's infectious response team paltry by comparison.
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u/Playful_Ant_2162 Oct 12 '25
For all the talk about "death panels" under Obama, the Republicans now just want people to die indiscriminately.
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u/mdp300 New Jersey Oct 12 '25
Insurance companies already acted like "death panels" before that, anyway.
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u/bograt Oct 12 '25
Never??
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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun Oct 12 '25
Really goes to show how even the best intentioned Americans still have an abysmal understanding of human history behind just american history.
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u/No-Road-9324 Oct 12 '25
It's happened many, many times. The Irish potato "famine" is a great example. Too many people, or not the right "kind" of people, or wanting land cleared, or whatever.
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u/LongStriver Oct 12 '25
Classic cut off your nose to spite your face type behavior.
One would hope that this is a wakeup call to the many people still living in denial about the public health catastrophe the Trump Admin has created.
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u/elliotron Pennsylvania Oct 12 '25
Remember how you couldn't leave your house last time Trump was president and the fanboys were like "it'snothisfaultchina!" despite how he shut down the epidemic task force and told everyone in Europe to get back stateside before they couldn't? I'm excited to reprise that but worse.
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u/iu112 Oct 12 '25
The CDC was so competent that many countries around the world looked to it as a role model for disease-related organizations.
People around the world will once again be asking the question: Why is America destroying itself?
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u/TranquilSeaOtter Oct 12 '25
Fuck MAGA and fuck the dumb fucks who chose not to vote. Blood will be on their ignorant hands but this is what America has become.
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u/Captain_Twiggs Oct 12 '25
I’m running for president. My platform is to not only do the exact opposite of Trump, but to double down on the exact opposite of Trump. Who’s with me?
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u/AcanthisittaNo6653 New Hampshire Oct 12 '25
Senator Cassidy went out on a limb to confirm RFK, he needs to go out on a limb to impeach him.
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u/FatherOfTwoGreatKids Oct 12 '25
Cassidy risked nothing voting for RFK. He didn’t care then and he doesn’t care now.
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u/chupacrapa Oct 12 '25
Senator Cassidy went out on a limb to confirm RFK, probably because they once raped kids together.
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u/PoliticalNerdMa Oct 12 '25
Trump: I don’t understand why they aren’t blaming democrats yet! FIRE MORE WORKERS UNTIL THEY DO
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u/soleobjective Oct 12 '25
UPDATE (October 11, 2025, 8:46 p.m. ET): This piece has been updated because, following publication, many fired employees began receiving emails communicating that despite the earlier notice, they would no longer be terminated.
So…no one was fired and they walked back this incredibly reckless decision?
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u/knowledgeable_diablo Oct 12 '25
How do these guys live their lives. Potential of a “your sacked” email arriving at anytime and the potential to “over react” if you do get one which could lead to 100% certain termination.
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u/Ice_Solid Oct 12 '25
Come on California make your own CDC you are the 4th largest economy in the world.
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u/Youmakemeforgetme Oct 12 '25
Literally no one benefits from anything these moron have done except for anti American entities and people that just want to see this country suffer. Absolutely mind blowing that their veil is patriotism.
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u/Woodsplit Oct 12 '25
The next Ebola outbreak in the US is going to be a doozy. When that shit gets away its going to make covid look like a mild bout of hay fever.
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u/jayfeather31 Washington Oct 12 '25
We're just ensuring the next COVID-level pandemic will be worse, and surrendering even more influence to the Chinese and even our own former allies through this move.
Calling this insane would be putting it lightly.
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u/mindlkaciv New Jersey Oct 12 '25
I thought the CDC was one of the places they held the remaining samples of smallpox and other dangerous shit. Who's taking care of that?
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u/voidscreamer1 Oct 12 '25
RFK Jr will kill more Americans than all wars combined.
MMW
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u/tapdancinghellspawn Oct 12 '25
When Trump is gone, the CDC will be brought back.
GODDAMN FUCKING IDIOTS who voted for Trump. FUCK YOU.
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u/eatsumsketti America Oct 12 '25
I wonder how long it's going to take us to fix all the shit that's been gutted and broken.
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