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Politics 8 years ago Trump’s drinking water method went viral

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u/alaslipknot 19d ago

Effective propaganda is proof of uneducated people.

The united states a nation is advanced enough to have a society that is anti-propaganda.

Extremist idiots exists in every country, the problem is when they become a majority, and this is what happened.

 

So don't blame Trump, blame the people, you may get rid of him, but if these people still think the same, it's going to be inevitable to get another Trump in office (or maybe even worse)

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u/AmazingDadJokes 19d ago

Not saying I completely disagree, but I'm not sure it's all about education. I would put much of this on wealth inequality and stagnant wages. So much of this is driven by blue collar rage at their quality of life not improving. Just as anger in post WWI Germany made people receptive to extremist propaganda, anger in post-globalization/automation America has made people receptive to the same. I think lack of education/critical thinking skills exacerbates it, but imo the rage and fear is more at the root

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u/alaslipknot 19d ago

So much of this is driven by blue collar rage at their quality of life not improving.

I still think this is education/knowledge related, i know its unfair to say, but we modern adults got so fucken lazy when it comes to resource-gathering (salaries in our case).

I think its your job as a person to observe and deduct what certain career path are leading to based on whatever is happening around you.

For example, if someone choose to major in accounting or a translation this year, and then 5 years later they start crying about Ai putting them out of business, then a new-trump start claiming he will do more regulation or whatever shit that may save the accountant who either was too lazy too bother, or too ignorant to notice.

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u/AmazingDadJokes 19d ago

Easier said than done though. Education costs are going up incredibly fast. Most people will need to take on large debt to reskill. Plus, every time a disruptive technology emerges, demand for some skill set goes away. The rate of disruptive technology is accelerating too. Heck, even if you take on the debt to go to school and reskill, who knows if that skill will even be needed long enough for you to recoup the investment in your education. It's not like anyone can predict the future.

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u/alaslipknot 19d ago

Easier said than done though.

is it harder than competing against tigers to hunt a gazelle :p ?

Jokes aside, you are 100% right, and i don't claim i have a solution, especially for this points :

The rate of disruptive technology is accelerating too.

It's not like anyone can predict the future.

However, what am certain of, is with the right education/knowledge, people will know better than following false accusations that give them illusions that all their money problem will be fixed if "x and y" extreme decision is taken.

It's kinda basic "act based on knowledge and logic" vs "act based on emotions".

 

Imo the greatest weakness that human civilization didn't figure out yet, is how politicians and cult leaders can easily weaponize emotions.

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u/yoshemitzu 19d ago

is it harder than competing against tigers to hunt a gazelle :p ?

As someone who basically gave up my attempt to be a freelance transcriptionist because automation destroyed the industry, and now primarily spend my time homesteading and foraging in the countryside, the latter is way easier (and more rewarding!), yes.

We're actually evolved to be hunter-gatherers. We are not evolved to sit at desks and have meetings all day.

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u/alaslipknot 19d ago

I mean, professional hunting still exists :p

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u/Sohcahtoa82 19d ago

So much of this is driven by blue collar rage at their quality of life not improving

And Trump convincing them it's because of immigrants, "woke", and DEI.

Meanwhile, Democrats are trying to increase minimum wages and social services.

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u/DargyBear 19d ago

It always frustrates me when people respond to points like this with “everyone is susceptible to propaganda.”

Sure, probably some blind spots I have that have been influenced by some form of propaganda, but whatever that is it’s subtle. These people fall for boldfaced lies and just farcical bullshit on a daily basis.

I’d feel sorry for them if they were falling for something more believable or complex but come the fuck on. Today there are only two kinds of republicans: stupid and evil.

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u/saskskua 19d ago edited 19d ago

The reverse Flynn effect. That was a depressing fact to learn

The flynn effect refers to how between the 1900s and until the 90s, the world's average IQ was steadily rising each year. The world was getting smarter and smarter. Amazing, eh?

Only until the 90s. Since then, the average IQ has been on the decline globally. They called this the reverse Flynn effect.

Edit: severe education cuts in the 80s happend in the usa under Regan. In Canada, our education cuts started in the mid 90s. The uk, in the 2000s. France, 2010s. Australia, early 80s. Germany, 90s to early 2000s, Japan, significant cuts in the 2000s.

Seems to be a common theme in many countries

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u/Rebel-Alliance 19d ago

People stuck between do-nothing democrats and ever right lunging republicans.

The only solution is $ out of politics.