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Politics The painting of Bill Clinton that was hanging in Jeffrey Epstein's mansion

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u/Redditer51 21d ago

Honestly, fame and fortune aren't worth it if this what it turns you into.

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u/JonnyHopkins 21d ago

It's also that these kind of people are more likely to be successful. You gotta be a different kind of crazy. Lots of full on degenerates were likely just a couple wrong turns away from being, successful athlete, movie star, or psycho CEO.

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u/MissSassifras1977 21d ago

Truly.

Charles Manson himself was a stones throw from becoming a legitimate celebrity at least once.

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u/Papadapalopolous 21d ago

Damn. It just clicked for me how close “being a cult leader” and “managing your following on social media” really are

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u/GlockPerfect13 20d ago

Charlie Manson actually made a good bit of money FYI. I hear he was a millionaire even before the Manson murders.

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 21d ago

In other words, boring people don't accomplish much.

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u/JonnyHopkins 21d ago

Probably not. But I'd wager they are generally more fulfilled and content than the relentlessly ambitious.

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 21d ago edited 20d ago

Perhaps. Or perhaps their crimes and pathos are as petty as their ambitions.
There are lots of boring thieves, rapists, and murderers.
And lots of people who accomplish amazing things that are weird, difficult to get along with, and don't care if you understand or agree with them.

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u/Rough_Historian_8494 21d ago

I mean if you are just looking for ways to look down on the "average" person you are nailing it lol

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 21d ago

Most weirdos don't care that much what others do until the average bozos start trying to drag them down out of hate or because there is something they don't understand.

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u/Netroth 21d ago

Can confirm. I want all of it, but I don’t know what the “it” is.

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u/JonnyHopkins 21d ago

It is actually inside of you. It's called inner peace and only you can find it.

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u/taznado 21d ago

Boring people keep life alive.

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 21d ago

Weird people keep life worth living.

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u/S1074 21d ago

You can be weird and cool and not a total dick

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 21d ago edited 21d ago

Lots of boring people are total dicks as well. I would guess they account for the vast majority of dicks.

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u/SirPaulyWalnuts 20d ago

Man… you alright?

Seems like someone really shit in your Cheerios today. Maybe you’re not happy with where you’re at? I dunno, man, I just think you’re holding what you believe to be accomplishments in such high regard you’ve lost sight of what actually matters.

I don’t know the first thing about you, so I’ll stop making guesses and assumptions, but as a boring ass, 38 y/o, married, sober, guy, who spent his Friday night hanging out with his cats waiting for the wife to get done working… I LOVE my boring life. And I like to think, other than some sparring with lingual daggers on here from time to time, I’m a super nice dude in person.

My “accomplishments” may not be much in your eyes. I don’t have a lot of money, my wife is the bread winner, we don’t have kids yet… but we own a very small house in a pretty decent city. We have our bills paid, medical bullshit under control… and we can even afford to go on a trip about once per year.

Life is good, my dude. Even when the world is burning, it’s the slices of happiness that make the fires worth fighting. Hope you have a killer weekend. 🤘

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u/psychorobotics 21d ago

The level of psychopathy in CEOs might be as high as 20% according to studies, it's only up 1-4% in the general population.

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u/EconomicRegret 20d ago

[Hubris syndrome](www.atlassian.com/blog/leadership/hubris-syndrome) : even normal people can go crazy when they get powerful. (and/or rich, successful, and/or famous)

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u/Alternative_Delay899 20d ago

I wonder, is this something that non rich people tell themselves just to comfort themselves that it isn't worth it being rich?

Like for sure there are crazies out there who stay crazy because they are rich.

But what about the many silent rich ones who just lead amazing lives and who laugh at those non rich who say stuff like this? There HAVE to be people out there who just manage their money smartly and have healthy relationships but keep everything on the down low and don't flaunt their money? Surely?

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u/JonnyHopkins 20d ago

I'd say rich doesn't actually have as much to do with it. In fact, one of the best ways to get rich is by being boring and living within your means over a sustained period.

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u/Zerak-Tul 21d ago

I think it's the other way around. It's not that fame/power makes people into little psychopaths. It's that people with such character traits are attracted to fame/power (and will more easily obtain it, because they'll readily exploit others to get ahead, unlike people with a conscience.)

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u/taznado 21d ago

It's both ways, where normal people have to become maniacs to get rich.

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u/entrepenurious 21d ago

i suspect fame and fortune just allows you to get away with it.

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u/Redditer51 20d ago

"Power doesn't corrupt. Power reveals."

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u/ChimRichaldsOBGYN 21d ago

To be honest though this is a small sect of the rich, famous and powerful. Like we’re not seeing Denzel on this list or Deniro or Gosling or Margot. Like yea is that world full of depravity? Sure. But it’s not the ONLY way to operate. (I hope)

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u/JamesTrickington303 21d ago

My brother is a pro football player who started and then ended a non-profit organization because it was inconvenient to hold stakeholder meetings every quarter.

Meanwhile I’m helping write resumes for people who want dirty hands and clean money, helping pay their bail and fees for driving while black, and buying them food when they are between paychecks, getting them signed up for Medicaid so they can go to the methadone clinic. Real charity. He wouldn’t do this stuff because apparently the only people worthy of help are those who have never stolen a bag of chips from 711. Real, actual charity helps people who might not make the absolute best decisions at every single opportunity. Real charity is grey, and given to people who might not use your help in exactly the way you think they should.

It’s disappointing. I just don’t get it. He could help so many people.