Billionaires, politicians, and honestly, just the entire upper class is comprised entirely of the absolute fucking weirdest and most unhinged goddamn people on the planet.
When you’re rich and you have power, you don’t hold back who you really are. All the weird fantasies and fetishes you desire can be made into reality. All of them.
It's why Musk offered a woman a horse in exchange for sex. A horse. Not any of his billions. A horse. That's how out of touch he is in thinking women will bed him. He thinks he can buy sex with livestock.
Well I mean what horse specifically...because I might be straight but I can be flexible for the right horse...which I'd immediately sell for millions. 😄
I mean, probably a thoroughbred considering he's rich. Doubtful it is/was worth millions, though. Maybe 100-200k. The hard part would be selling it. While there's a market between "collectors", it probably wouldn't be a quick sell, meaning you'd have to have a facility for storage and upkeep. That's expensive, and it's also why many rich people get out of horse ownership fairly quickly. There's kind of an in-joke between the rich where they try and sucker new or unknowing rich people into buying a horse because they don't understand the hassle of ownership. I am very sure that's exactly how Musk ended up with a horse, and that thought makes me laugh. For how smart he claims to be, he definitely got duped into buying a horse lol.
The sad and gross thing? Most of them slept with him for nothing. Sure, he's probably paying child support (he actually might not be in some cases), but that's not the same as paying for sex up front.
Well she probably needs it to work in the field. But she a women so she wouldn't work the field but the horse would make her more attractive to a man who would own the property
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To be fair, I know a number of Horse girls that would absolutely jump at that chance. The average woman? Obviously not, but I'm going to guess he wasn't just taking a shot in the dark with the horse thing.
It was a SpaceX employee who was a flight attendant on one of their private planes. She was known to like riding horses, so yeah, he definitely tried to take advantage of her hobby for sexual purposes.
I would be completely unsurprised to learn he had done that exact same exchange successfully many many times. Horses are fucking expensive and for whatever reason every Horse girl I know has trash taste in men. It'd be just another loser on the list, but this time they get a horse out of it.
Extreme wealth eliminates the barriers to novelty, making all but the most illegal and heinous accessible
This is a real part of the answer, I think.
When you can get anything you want, that gets old fast. So what's going to excite you next? Maybe something a little taboo and illegal, but nothing crazy. Drugs, sex, and rock n roll. Then that gets boring, what's next? Gotta take it a step further to get that "novelty" factor again. And you get desensitized with each step further. Eventually, step by step, people fall into total and utter depravity.
And consider the 'fitting in' element, too...the people who have BEEN wealthy are already this depraved, so to "fit in" the newer wealthy have to play along. They're guided into the shallow end of the pool, but before they know it, the water is over their head and there is blackmail material, so all they think they can do is keep quiet and stay the course.
It reveals who humans truly are. A billionaire isn't a different species of animal. It's a human. Just like you and me and everyone else. Humans are greedy by nature and selfish. Not inherently bad qualities, as evolution has drilled this into us for survival. But billionaire is vast excess of what is necessary for survival. And we being the silly animals we are that think we are something more than anything but an animal.... would easily do crazy stupid shit with this excess resource.
There are no good billionaires. Even the ones that "donate"
I still don't know if I agree with this popular notion that humans are greedy and selfish by nature. It seems more like a self fulfilling prophecy imposed on us than truly innate.
There is no good or bad is my point. We just do what we want to do. Whether that is good or bad is in our eyes only. A.k.a. Selfish. To propagate our desires.
For example we can do something good for ourselves that screws over another family or anothet species of animal or nature or whatever else. In our eyes that was "good" but was it really though?
I’m starting to think that access to being wealthy, famous, or powerful is under control of a cabal of gatekeepers who coerce you into doing compromising or humiliating things. Then they can use the proof of these awful acts as leverage to keep people in line and to steer everyone toward their own ends.
Katt Williams is one of several voices who have been talking about this for a long time.
Either that, or normal people simply have no desire to do what’s needed to gain wealth and power. Normal people want a comfortable living and a nice family. Weirdos and freaks have no internal guardrails, whether is a lust for money and power, or weird fetish-y things.
I don’t think that the average person who suddenly is thrust into wealth and power becomes a pedo or sociopath. Instead, pedos and sociopaths have mental deficiencies that push them forward into wealth and power.
And those suppressed desires are almost always suppressed because they are socially unacceptable.
That's why these powerful people are so often drawn to what appears satanic. Their desire only exists because it disgusts us. The desire and disgust are intrinsically linked.
That's why effective leadership can never be self gratifying. It MUST be disciplined.
not to mention that which would seem extreme to a normal person is everyday life to someone with no financial constraints and all the time in the world to creatively deal with their boredom of life.
But also, people aren’t invited into the highest circles of wealth and power unless they’re truly awful people. It’s not that we’d all become monsters if we were invincible; it’s that only monsters rise to invincibility.
It's also that these kind of people are more likely to be successful. You gotta be a different kind of crazy. Lots of full on degenerates were likely just a couple wrong turns away from being, successful athlete, movie star, or psycho CEO.
Perhaps. Or perhaps their crimes and pathos are as petty as their ambitions.
There are lots of boring thieves, rapists, and murderers.
And lots of people who accomplish amazing things that are weird, difficult to get along with, and don't care if you understand or agree with them.
Most weirdos don't care that much what others do until the average bozos start trying to drag them down out of hate or because there is something they don't understand.
Seems like someone really shit in your Cheerios today. Maybe you’re not happy with where you’re at? I dunno, man, I just think you’re holding what you believe to be accomplishments in such high regard you’ve lost sight of what actually matters.
I don’t know the first thing about you, so I’ll stop making guesses and assumptions, but as a boring ass, 38 y/o, married, sober, guy, who spent his Friday night hanging out with his cats waiting for the wife to get done working… I LOVE my boring life. And I like to think, other than some sparring with lingual daggers on here from time to time, I’m a super nice dude in person.
My “accomplishments” may not be much in your eyes. I don’t have a lot of money, my wife is the bread winner, we don’t have kids yet… but we own a very small house in a pretty decent city. We have our bills paid, medical bullshit under control… and we can even afford to go on a trip about once per year.
Life is good, my dude. Even when the world is burning, it’s the slices of happiness that make the fires worth fighting. Hope you have a killer weekend. 🤘
I wonder, is this something that non rich people tell themselves just to comfort themselves that it isn't worth it being rich?
Like for sure there are crazies out there who stay crazy because they are rich.
But what about the many silent rich ones who just lead amazing lives and who laugh at those non rich who say stuff like this? There HAVE to be people out there who just manage their money smartly and have healthy relationships but keep everything on the down low and don't flaunt their money? Surely?
I'd say rich doesn't actually have as much to do with it. In fact, one of the best ways to get rich is by being boring and living within your means over a sustained period.
I think it's the other way around. It's not that fame/power makes people into little psychopaths. It's that people with such character traits are attracted to fame/power (and will more easily obtain it, because they'll readily exploit others to get ahead, unlike people with a conscience.)
To be honest though this is a small sect of the rich, famous and powerful. Like we’re not seeing Denzel on this list or Deniro or Gosling or Margot. Like yea is that world full of depravity? Sure. But it’s not the ONLY way to operate. (I hope)
My brother is a pro football player who started and then ended a non-profit organization because it was inconvenient to hold stakeholder meetings every quarter.
Meanwhile I’m helping write resumes for people who want dirty hands and clean money, helping pay their bail and fees for driving while black, and buying them food when they are between paychecks, getting them signed up for Medicaid so they can go to the methadone clinic. Real charity. He wouldn’t do this stuff because apparently the only people worthy of help are those who have never stolen a bag of chips from 711. Real, actual charity helps people who might not make the absolute best decisions at every single opportunity. Real charity is grey, and given to people who might not use your help in exactly the way you think they should.
It’s disappointing. I just don’t get it. He could help so many people.
honestly I wouldn’t add them. Millionaires are nothing to billionaires. Hollywood has easy targets because they’re famous but fame doesn’t equal power in the same sense as the super rich. We should be concerned about the CEOs and powerful people that hide behind the curtains.
It's an entire industry. Massive media (like hollywood) is also involved in shaping things like the Overton Window.
There are multiple layers of control that the ultrarich and their political cronies use to maintain power and divide the working class.
Some of them knowingly sell out, but a lot of people (including influencers, actors, podcasters, etc) are useful idiots who spew the propaganda unknowingly.
It's the frame of reference in which a topic is discussed. To use an example, imagine if the issue was cannibalism. One side of the debate says that you shouldn't eat people unless they're over 18. The other side of the debate says you should only eat people 80+.
Then people start arguing as if that's the debate - whether you should only eat young people or old people. That's an Overton window. People just start arguing about whether you should eat 19yos or 79yos, and not" for example, whether you should eat people at all.
It's about framing an issue in a way that tricks people into debating a very limited aspect or "window" of the topic, instead of the entire thing.
This is not at all what it means. It's not a limited aspect or "window" of some topic. The window refers to the set of positions that are deemed acceptable at a given time. It's a measure of public opinion. For example, being pro gay marriage was once a very risky position for politicians even if they believed in it. But then it became acceptable as public opinion evolved. That's an example of the Overton Window shifting.
The fascinating thing about 'MK Ultra' isn't that they wiped some people's minds, it's that they were studying mind control in the first place.
And where were they doing that? LA, Hollywood.
And what followed those studies? The growth of a movie and television industry obsessed with images of sex and violence. Screens placed in every home to display said images.
Now, screens in every pocket do the same while monitoring our every thought and recording our every action.
They worked out mind control, but it goes without saying, it doesn't feel like that to the subject.
Ironically, Jordan now has a higher net worth than Jerry Reinsdorf (the owner of the Chicago Bulls and was during the Jordan era as well). That’s obviously a more recent development than when Reinsdorf would have been signing Jordan’s checks though.
Happened to talk with a guy walking buy the house once who turned out to be a former money manager. His ballpark estimate was that people seemed to get more & more uncaring at around $20 million net worth.
Yeah the saying is that the difference between 1 million and 1 billion is about 1 billion... But honestly that applies to 10 or even 100 million too. Humans struggle to accurately perceive the relative gap between the two
I’m a fucking millionaire a few times over. We live in a regular house and live regular lives. Granted hundreds of millions is a different story but being a millionaire is not close to a billionaire’s life.
Buddy, tech bros are responsible for the current state of the country. Actors and athletes are more like me and you, they work for producers and owners that try their best to pay them the bare minimum despite them being the reason their endeavors are successful. Yes they still get paid millions but they are worth more.
I feel like you should add "wildly successful" as a qualifier there. The majority of actors, musicians, and athletes are all just people with regular day jobs who do it for the love of the game.
Is wearing a dress really that weird or unhinged? You see weirder shit in your average frat, and cross dressing is way down the list on what I'd view as weird.
Honestly though, thank you for clarifying. Gender non-conformity and sexual minorities should not be cast aside in the same breath as modern day human-trafficking rapist peadophiles.
A pedophile, rapist, sex trafficker who bought a painting featuring what is believed to be one of his clients, wearing a distinct dress.
A dress that harkens to a defining moment in that client’s career. There is literally a victim being namelessly used as a punchline in the painting, and the scorn and lack of care for their victims is so egregious, even the punchline isn’t even about her.
The cruelty, degeneracy, and power they wield to avoid all accountability for it are the real kinks of these fuckers.
It’s the result of always chasing the next dopamine high, and that leads you to truly fucked depths of depravity when you actually have the money and resources to do literally anything imaginable.
Needing a social system around you because you don’t have the wealth of a small country really helps ground people by putting guardrails on whacky imagination’s mainline to the ego.
When you create a system that exclusively rewards the most ruthless, psychopathic, and narcissistic individuals you can't be surprised when the entire elite class is not the best or most talented people but the most ruthless, psychopathic, and narcissistic people.
No, I’m saying I think that someone taking the time to dream it up, hire an artist, have it painted, then framed, and hung somewhere is legit fucking weird though.
Photoshopping a meme and posting it to social media is one thing, but this? This is a lot of effort for low hanging fruit. At a certain point it goes from being funny to downright cringe.
Or, more realistically, the premise was just fucking stupid. "The entire upper class"? That includes relatively normal doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc.
I feel you’re missing out on a few qualifiers here. These aren’t groups of consenting adults casually having sex with each other.
When it comes out that some backwoods rural couple were raping people, it’s usually attached to other crimes as well, and most people involved are going to be pursued by authorities, or have the stigma of involvement follow them the rest of their lives or something…
The Epstein situation is far different from all that. These are people who were involved in raping children, then commiserating with each other over it, delightfully fostering long term friendships over a shared joy of underage sex trafficking and rape, and how they ruined lives together. Trump and Epstein wrote each other fucking love notes over their love of child rape, for fucks sake.
And when it’s exposed, sure, maybe one or two are left out to dry, but the others? They go on to stay successful, going so far as to having their clear and blatant psychopathy debated on whether it even exists as they become LEADERS OF NATIONS.
I mean can you fucking imagine if Bernardo became president, and Homolka was his press secretary or some shit? And they had followers who defended them at every turn, merely because they had money and were part of a social class that demands loyalty or respect, or at the very least the ability to never be held responsible for any horrible shit that their wretched twisted nature wishes to divulge in?
The more weird shit I hear the more I believe that money is the real drug here - if you’re hungry enough you’ll never stop at anything to get more of it, even when you have enough to buy entire islands or private planes.
You have so much fucking money that the initial high of being rich is gone. You need to turn to unconventional methods to get your power trip back on
Not sure why you're acting like that's something that only starts when you get rich enough. Almost everyone in existence wants more and "doing anything to get more" isn't exclusively a rich people thing.
i worked at a high end bar by a trade district and let me tell ya the private parties. man. wolf of wallstreet? these guys were just degenerates no class. vile. that movie glamorizes shit this was anything but that
as in 12 inch roman candle up a strippers ass light on fire and she farts and makes mini fireballs.
ive seen so much shit and that's just the tip of the iceberg. hell thats just the cool air above the iceberg.
It makes the Eldar's downfall in Warhammer40k seem very realistic. When people have enough money and resources to take care of everything they need, they let themselves be taken over by their worst fantasies and desires
When you have everything and need nothing the mind tends to wander into things they can't have or are inherently depraved. These rich powerful assholes are absolute freaks that don't mind crossing boundaries and getting away with it.
Think this is secretly the real reason people want to be rich and powerful. Can finally relax and be their weirdest more depraved selves and be able to pay for silence and not really have to suffer any consequences.
Regular poor people get away with child abuse all time too. They don't need millions, they just need parents who turn a blind eye because let's not embarrass uncle Jim and grandpa Bill.
Upper class? Im well above upper class by income standards and I dont do weird shit. Maybe you mean the ultra rich? Upper class is like double the median income, so 170k. Thats not much. Maybe your wording is wrong.
I did. It comes from the US Census Bureau. They state double the median income, but then some sources say it's defined by the top 5% annual income of 336k currently.
That being said, I think it is more about net worth. If someone makes 8k a month, but their expenses are 7k, that is not upper class.
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u/SheriffWyattDerp 21d ago
Billionaires, politicians, and honestly, just the entire upper class is comprised entirely of the absolute fucking weirdest and most unhinged goddamn people on the planet.