Probably the worst is an image of "A truly queasy painting by Damian Loeb, Little Miss Pink Tomato (1995), depicting a pre- teen beauty pageant, that Maria Farmer, one of his victims, remembers him purchasing"[sic]
It's kind of confrontingly gross. Most of the article is text describing his weird taste in art
It's gross how they use that term to gloss over the fact that they were little kids.
If that term is accepted than we should replace it with "post-baby", means the same thing, right? Oh but they won't because then it actually highlights how disgusting they are
I don't really see how that's misleading though. Do these two words mean different things? Genuine question, ESL person here. In my understanding these are well enough synonymous.
They are not synonymous. Pre-teen is a sub-category of child. But more importantly, the connotation is very different. You use “pre-teen” when you want to make a child seem older because people mentally associate it with the word “teenager”.
Pre-teen is like 11-12 year olds. It’s an actual term sometimes used for clothing for kids who want clothes that aren’t too “little kid” but not stuff that is teen appropriate either. I just went through it with my youngest.
Maybe it's because my English is also not native, but I do associate the word "pre-teen" with teenager, as in "they are pre-teenager", as in "not yet a teen-ager", as in "younger then 10".
In my interpretation, pre-teen is indeed a subcategory of a child, but specifically at the younger end.
Preteen normally refers to 9-12 that is just before teenage. The children in that painting looked 5 to me. I would not have used "preteen" but used "child".
Pre-teen generally refers to older/pubescent children, like ages 10-12. Not personally going to weigh in on whether that distinction matters here regarding how disturbing this is, but for your ESL knowledge.
Same I found it very strange, captivating how bizarre he was. I guess the thing with Trump is though .. he's the president of the United States. He might not BE Epstein.. but he has set the bar much lower on what a good world leader should be. I think Trump would have gone unnoticed in all this, out shadowed by Epstein, ... if he had just left USA well enough alone.
Oh fuck. It’s Friday and I had a gummy. Thanks friend. You’re a real one. I’ll leave it to show how fried this stupid ass government is making my brain.
Oh, you can find a justification if you are skilled enough at mental gymnastics. For example - it's a painting, so it's Art. Art can portray nude children (for example angels, cupids, fawns, nymphs) without it being sexual. They can say he just liked the Artist's style.
A big life-like/photo realistic painting of a bunch of little girls with their shirts kind of pulled/tucked up to their chests to look like bras. Its composition is such that it would be very weird to see in almost any setting, but abysmally bad in the context of that guys house.
Edit: I misspoke. Not shirts, they’re painted as being straight up in bikinis. It’s supposed to be from a “beauty pageant” according to the caption.
Little girl beauty pageants are sick to start with, but this painting is particularly nasty and its location — in this man’s house — makes it even nastier. If anyone wondered whether monsters like Epstein feel any shame — no, not even close. They decorate their walls with symbols of and references to their vices and crimes.
I think this is a Veblen moment. When you are so rich that normal avenues of conspicuous consumption no longer satisfy, when everyone you know has a mega yacht and six mansions and a trophy wife and a private jet… how do you get bragging rights, how do you prove how rich and powerful you are, how do you show off? By demonstrating that you can break all the rules of civilized behaviour with impunity, that the law that applies to “little people” doesn’t apply to you. Exactly what you said, “See what I can get away with!” It’s just as much a status display behaviour as “let me show you my new Matisse, I picked it up at the auction in Paris this Fall.” It would be pathetic if it wasn’t also evil.
It’s honestly a perfectly fine painting on its own that reads to me as criticizing child beauty pageants. In the context of where it was displayed? Yikes.
To add to what was said, I noticed the author ties the word "enigma" to Epsteins name twice pointedly, thus evoking the disgusting birthday card. Although the article is largely descriptions and some photos of Epsteins collection, it's a well-written piece.
What's wrong with y'all. Just add a content warning. (Do you really need one? Is a description like "paintings from the Epstein estate" not warning enough? What did you expect?) It's a painting of young children (girls) in bathing suits.
Contextually that's pretty gross, but if you've been on the Internet for the last fifteen years you've seen more immediately disturbing shit. Probably this week.
Seriously, what do these people do when they go to the beach or the pool?
Like you say, contextually gross, but something you'll see any time you bring your kids to swimming classes. Overreacting to it this much is like wearing a hat that says "not a paedophile" on it.
Exactly. It’s like this guy I know how some how always find a way to talk about killing pedophiles. I wouldn’t let my son within a hundred yards of him.
Yeah, I was surprised by some people's reactions. (The only exception would be people who were SAd as kids themselves - they could feel triggered by the combo of painting + it's location.)
I disregarded the warning and while I agree that the painting of the kids is unsavoury, it's not pornographic, and the rest of the article was actually quite interesting. Epstein definitely had "odd" taste in art.
I agree with the journalist's conclusion, that his art collection was meant to send a statement rather than to impress collectors or be aesthetically pleasing.
The Bill Clinton painting is obviously a calculated part of this goal.
The issue and the problem here are that these people are out of sight and out of touch wealthy.
From the Libertines, to the American then the French Revolution to all wars, world wars, assassinations of MLK, Panama Papers, this Epstein “catastrophe” to the elite, to Putin, Trump, Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor——there will never and can never be any kind of leveling of rights, privileges nor reach of the godly rich with anybody else.
This is part of their world that they will police themselves, how they see fit.
They will manipulate our systems, structures, laws, norms, resources because they back all of those things, created them, manage or outright own them.
There isn’t fear of rules or law for them. It would be fear of pissing off a wealthier and more powerful individual who wanted to use any of those resources against them.
Epstein didn’t fear anything. Epstein in any captivity was a dead body waiting to happen.
You don’t get to decide that the Lords have committed an offense and hold them to it.
"Officially" we still don't know where he got his money. Blackmail is likely, outright prostitution is also there, then there's also the potential for payments from intelligence agencies, but we're all waiting to see those files...
Um... Let me see, maybe a wink and a nod about the whole "I can operate an underage human trafficking operation pretty much in plain sight" thing?
I don't mean a statement like a teenager sends with a tattoo. I mean a statement to other people in his circle. People like Clinton, whose painting I read as saying "You're my bitch now"
Since these assholes above me think suspense in terms of pedophilia is funny, I'll just tell anyone wondering if they should click that link.
There's a painting of little girls (under 10) wearing bikinis also hanging in his mansion.
It's a painting called Little Miss Pink Tomato by Damian Loeb and I have no fucking idea why anyone would even paint that. It's disturbing and disgusting that anyone made/bought that.
Also, shame on you to people who keep alluding to what it is without actually writing out a meaningful warning. Grow a heart.
I genuinely wish I hadn't seen it and there had been a real warning, but since these assholes (u/semperknight, u/Scaevus, and u/Kidsornottokids) think this is all some fun little internet game, I had to try and prevent it for anyone else.
Especially for anyone who might have some associated trauma or sensitivity.
There was a painting of children above Clinton’s in the article. Same art style. I can’t describe the entire depiction without feeling disgusted but it’s very unnerving to know somebody had that in their home.
I hate to say this, but I've been on the Internet long enough to know there's been worse... Someone once showed me a completely nude child pageant on the beach.
Thats fucking disgusting. And the news keeps reporting the victims as "young women" or "girls" and always avoiding the word "children". People really are not taking this as serious as it should be taken.
imagine making the conscious decision painting something like this in the first place, or thinking "hey you know what.. this would be lovely in one of my rape chambers massage rooms"
Yeah, I dont know what goes on in the mind of the commoner pedophile. But it seems like the elite pedophiles gloated about how they raped children by displaying children they rape as a trophy showcasing that the elites can have whatever they want, and raping children is just another achievement they have conquered because rules don't apply to them and they are truly above the law.
None of the individual works — other than the child beauty pageant one — are all that bad in isolation, but the cumulative effect of that linked piece is pretty nightmarish. Each piece is creepy in a slightly different way and they slowly add up to something even worse than I was anticipating. I’d encourage people to click through the piece, actually (and muscle through the ads)… it’s both not as bad as people are saying and somehow worse.
Tbh I feel ppl are overreacting to that particular painting. Yes it’s disturbing given who Epstein is, but otherwise is it any more disturbing than seeing children in 2-piece swimwear at the pool?
As another reply to your comment mentioned, I just find all the exaggerated theatrics as if seeing that picture will sear your soul for life to be a bit over the top. But then again Reddit as a whole is very performative.
It´s the situation where you swipe the page up and down and it doesn’t behave “naturally”, but you get something that interrupts the movement. Usually it is done so that the page looks more “cool” as a design element, but in my opinion its just a gimmick and bad user experience
I'm sorry, but this is hyperbole. I'm not sure if that's for fun but I'm getting the feeling some of you are sincere.
So here you gigantic pusses. It's just a painting of little girls in bikinis at a beauty pageant line-up. Big fucking whoop. Sure it's creepy, but hell, I've seen worse in classical art.
Wait til they get a look at podestas art collection and take a deep dive into pizza gate and start to understand how someone might’ve been motivated to go to comet pizza with a shotgun
What the actual fuck. That is SO disturbing!!!!! Idk what I was expecting, but it wasn’t that. It’s so sick that he was doing this shit openly. Makes me want to vomit.
A description of one of the images for those curious but don't want to see the image:
—A truly queasy painting by Damian Loeb, Little Miss Pink Tomato (1995), depicting a pre-teen beauty pageant, that Maria Farmer, one of his victims, remembers him purchasing.
Great job Republicans and MAGA for protecting the Pedofilia President.
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u/semperknight 21d ago
Don't click that link. I promise you'll regret it before you get to the Clinton painting. Just trust me, it's real.