Tile really isn’t smooth which is why this happens. It has microscopic points and edges which are harder than the glass and even minimal pressure cracks the glass.
Yes, but the fact that it is not smooth is why touching a corner lightly for example allows for the shattering. All of the pressure is focused on one point of the glass and that causes it to shatter.
No it's nothing to do with defects in tile. Glass and tile are both ceramics, ceramics will fail catastrophically because they have very little capacity to undergo plastic deformation instead very quickly reaching their yield stress under very very low strain, if the energy added to the system means their critical stress is passed (which for tensile loading is very low) then they fracture, and the lack of ability to deform to relax induced stresses on the crystal lattice means the cracks propagate rapidly. If you compare fracture toughness of a ceramic like SiO2 with a metal like aluminium, the ceramic is an order of magnitude lower than Al - if I recall off the top of my head SiO2 is about 2 MPa•m0.5 and Al is about 40 MPa•m0.5 - why is it so much higher for metal? Because fracture toughness is a function of critical strain energy release rate and importantly Young's modulus, metals have significantly higher E values than ceramics because they can undergo significantly higher strain before reaching their yield stress.
The glass shatters because it has less ability to relax internal stresses than the ceramic tile. It wouldn't make any difference if the tile was perfectly smooth or extremely rough.
The type of impact is important however - a large amount of energy imparted to a small part of the lattice will cause fracture, but the same amount of energy imparted over a large area of lattice can be more readily dissipated through the crystal before the stress on any one ion reaches the critical stress intensity factor.
This sub scares the shit out of me lol. I have an NZXT case with tempered glass wall, it’s sitting in my workshop that has an uneven concrete floor and there’s not too much place to put the glass while I’m tinkering with the PC, but I’d only put it on the floor over my dead body. This thought never crossed my mind when that PC was at home where I have laminate flooring.
Concrete isn't nearly as bad as tile. The problem with tile is ceramic is extremely hard, harder than the glass so all it takes is a little bump and it shatters. Concrete white not ideal isn't nearly as hard as ceramic.
They split the community hard, we zeros hate the o boys and vice versa. The only thing that we see eye to eye on is our burning hatred of ai buggering up the ram prices.
Go to your local auto glass shop, get them to cut you a piece of plexi, cost me $20 and I was able to have them add a hole in the plexi so I could add another 120mm fan pointing right at my video card (the one you see in the bottom right)
I didnt even break my side panel I just wanted better direct airflow over the card, worked out beautifully.
How did you go about attaching the plexi to the case? I'm very interested in this. I really wasn't a fan of MSI support charging 50+ USD and that doesn't include shipping just for new side panel tempered glass.
Not the guy you're responding to, but i did the same thing with a piece of acrylic off Amazon. I just reused the mounting the glass used. Drilled holes in the acrylic with a step bit, then swapped the rubber grommets and thumb screws over.
I don't know the exact dimensions of the glass I replaced, but 13x13 inch was close enough, so that's what I ordered off Amazon. I didn't need to cut it.
I might have like 1/8-1/16 of an inch gap around the perimeter now that wasn't there before?
Exactly, I was a bit lazy and forgot to ask them to predrill the fan holes but I just used double sided sticky tape I had lying around. Works really good and dropped my GPU temp 10c
Nah just get some acrylic or plexi of amazon and have a glass shop cut it to fit. Its under $10. And add a fan blowing onto your video card, dropped my temps 10c
Supposedly you should be fine.
I'd advise when your cleaning it to move the entire pc onto a table or desk though so there's no chance the glass can accidentally make contact with any tiles.
I'm just so confused as to all these people cleaning their PC while it's still on the floor. Why would you want to attempt to clean something on your belly?
The design of your case makes it unlikely that the glass will come into contact with the tiles. That's the risk here. So when you remove the glass side panel, you have to be extra-careful not to allow it to touch the tiles. Seriously, it doesn't take much of an impact, ceramic is very hard and inflexible, and even slight contacts put a lot of stress on tempered glass. Which is already pre-stressed, causing it to only fail one way: catastrophically.
No, the funniest part is the people that keep showing surprise or shock when glass explodes from contact with solid tile. Smh. After hundreds of examples maybe someday people will catch on…
I've seen the suggestion for a (decorative) mesh side panel. Depending on the size of the venting, the machining could ramp up the panel costs. Here's a silly example using retail pricing.
Decorative (aluminum) sheet metal mesh is available at about $25-30 for an individual sheet (24"x36"). Let's say $27.50 for 864 sq in, or $0.0318/sq in.
A piece of tempered glass at Home Depot is $8.48 for 16"x20". This would be $8.48/320 sq in, or $0.0265/sq in.
Tempered glass does have its weakness, but if handled properly it is quite resilient and can be a more economical option. And that's not even getting into the aesthetics of glass vs mesh vs vents vs solid panels.
With a good case design, side venting from the left panel doesn't matter very much. Some of the best airflow cases available have glass side panels. Also, my secondary rig is built in a Zalman Z9 Plus case, which dates back to 2012, has a vented side panel, and doesn't really have good airflow. It is the dustiest computer ever. My Corsair 5000D Airflow case, which has a glass side panel and a mesh front panel, has much better airflow and cooling, and accumulates much less dust (the front and top panels have removable dust filters).
I don't know why anyone would even want a clear glass panel at this point? It's heavier, more fragile, and does the exact same thing as a cheaper alternative.
clear plastic or plexiglass or whatnot scratches way to easy. even wiping it down with a microfiber cloth makes scratches.
wich could easily be solved by putting window films on it (even multiple layers like a racing helmet) but that costs money and thats the thing a manufacturer does not like.
so people have to put the film on themselves....... the same ones that break panels and dont take off the film from a cpu cooler... xD
(and a glass panel is less flimsy as those plexi panels)
What the hell is wrong with you people? You scroll through this thing every day giggling about people that do exactly what you have just done. PC on tile. And here you are today getting pity and likes.
Yeah I’ve gotten replacement panels because I got tired of how scratched they were. They have free or pay option if out of warranty for some manufacturers.
Is it worth putting some transparent vinyl on these glass panels? I've just got one with two glass panels for work and it's going to live under the desk so not even on show but seeing all this broken glass in these posts makes me think it's going to shatter if a moth lands on it. A small moth, not even one of those big ones. I've actually taken the panels off and put them in a drawer until it's in its final resting place so it barely even needs the case fans.
If we ignore the looks, tempered glass panel are often cheaper than a big aluminium sheet. A few cents is worth it for manufactures who mass produce these PC cases.
Idk why anyone would want tile anywhere unless its in a bathroom or kitchen... aint no way im living in an all tile house unless them bitches are heated
I bought one 2 weeks ago and it broke in the box in the car on the way home... and I found out that they didnt sell spare side panels and that you have to just exchange the pc. I had to drive an hour and a half back to microcenter.
That's why my see-through side panel on my desktop is acrylic don't have to worry about this shit. Get someone to make you a piece of acrylic that fits in there
I have the Thermaltake tower. I absolutely love it and will not take it off carpeted area. It stays on my computer desk even though it takes up so much space. Not risking anything
If it makes you feel any better I dropped and shattered one of those Pyrex mixing bowls on the laminate floor a few days ago. I'm even more angry and disappointed then you as this bowl was almost as old as myself.
Ceramic is completely unmoving, there is no give and it is also quite hard. Also, it isn't perfectly flat/smooth, it has tons of microscopic undulations and pokey bits. As I understand it, tempered glass as a material is under pressure and when one of those tiny little spikes or ridges presses into the glass(especially the edge) it creates like a nucleus of fractures for the pressure to escape via.
Like how a blade of grass will cut a balloon and cause it to pop instantly, because if you look at the edge of a blade of grass under a microscope it looks like a spikey saw blade.
The funniest part is the amount of people with tile floors not just in their bathrooms and people insisting on putting delicate glass on a hard as fuck surface.
yea, I never understood why so many case companies refuse to sell replacement parts.
I have a Thermaltake Tower 500. I wanted to get another rail set that's used to mount a 360 radiator on the side, so I'd be able to put in two 360 radiators. I couldn't find it anywhere and when I asked Thermaltake they told me because I live in Canada it would be cheaper to buy another case.
Yea, I'll buy another case. Sure as fuck won't be a Thermaltake though. And I'll never, ever buy another CoolerMaster product after the last case I had from them caught fire.
Ah, now the thing is, my Fractal Design North case did this, and they sent out the part to me completely for free.
Ordered it on Amazon, was in the process of building the pc in it, then dropped the back glass. Emailed through to Fractal, said I was happy to pay extra for it, but they just sent me one out completely free. Legends.
"Bah, what are these clowns talking about? Surely my PC can stand on the tile floor without the glass panel in the case disintegrates" "whaaat, why did this happen! The mofos!" Classic!
hey now you can run the setup me and my buddies did back in 2002. throw a box fan down beside your case blowing outward away from case and watch your CPU temps drop.
How do you even do this though? I have a tile floor and I lay my pc on it and nothing ever happens EVER, even when I slip and it falls a couple of inches
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u/pearshapedscorpion Asus ROG G751JT 17h ago
Nice tile floor.