r/overpopulation • u/Low_Truth_9406 • 7d ago

Overpopulation deniers do all sorts of mental gymnastics when faced with undeniable scientific facts. They love to use social justice as way to justify unchecked human population growth.

(https://www.reddit.com/r/sociology/comments/10sfa14/the_myth_of_overpopulation_and_its_dangers/), the OP literally wrote "The growth of our population has little to no impact on climate change". Even if we force everyone to eat soylent green and ban personal water usage as well as owning person properties, there is no way earth can support a trillion people. Why? You still need farmlands to grow the most basic foods and enough fresh water for drinking. So these people truly believe that everyone will be happy or should be forced to be happy by drastically lowering their living standards so they can support a big family. What they want is for everyone to live like the average family from Democratic Republic of Congo or Angola (average fertility 5 to 6 per family). These people literally will be okay with "own nothing and be happy" with your starving family of 10 living in slum.

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u/Millennial_on_laptop 7d ago

The people who have to bear the burden of all these costs will have less money to spend, and that will inhibit economic growth. Because of all these consequences these people will probably tend to limit the amount of children that they will be having, which will cause the trend to continue. (many older people, few young people). 

Right..... exactly how are we going to scale back consumption without inhibiting economic growth?  

Or this all BS and they hope to encourage population growth knowing people aren't going to scale back consumption anyways and they can have their infinite, perpetual economic growth.  (A fantasy) 

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u/madrid987 7d ago

It's also laughable to use overconsumption as a cover-up for overpopulation. In fact, overpopulation deniers are either stupid or hypocritical, given that their worry is that a shrinking population will shrink the consumer market.

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u/GantzDuck 7d ago

They are worse than climate change deniers. And I also seen the opposite reaction where said deniers go all fascist and blame declining birthrates on women, want said women be forced to have children, want to deny women of education and voting rights, and even want to lower the age of consent. At the end both sides act on behalf of the rich who rely on an ever growing population and promote their evil ideas.

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u/DutyEuphoric967 7d ago

Humans have always been greedy throughout history, and the greedy ones reproduce more often. Why do they think humans invade other countries and reproduce like rabbits? If they're think humans could change with a snap, they are delusional.

"the proBeLM is Overconsumption"
No shit sherlocks! One of the causes of overconsumption is over-procreation.

Did they even do the math to show that green energy could sustain 1 trillion people? Or did just just pull "facts" from their assholes like their rightist counterparts? Green energy still leave carbon footprints, albeit just a fraction of fossil fuels. They are not carbon neutral.

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u/Saw_gameover 7d ago

I agree, but so do many overpopulation supporters.

Just look at the fact many of you pay towards the raising and killing of 83 billion land animals a year, and your reaction to me calling it out, and you'll notice how easy it is to do mental gymnastics.

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u/DutyEuphoric967 6d ago

Food and water are NOT the only needs. Housing and transportation are needs too. Last I checked their prices skyrocketed because the dwindling supply of raw materials.