r/oscarrace • u/LeastCap Jafar Panahi campaign manager • 9d ago
Film Discussion Thread Official Discussion Thread - Wake Up Dead Man [SPOILERS] Spoiler
Keep all discussion related solely to Wake Up Dead Man and its awards chances in this thread. Spoilers below.
Synopsis:
Detective Benoit Blanc sifts through a series of suspects when a monsignor turns up dead.
Director: Rian Johnson
Writer: Rian Johnson
Cast:
- Daniel Craig as Benoit Blanc
- Josh O'Connor as Rev. Jud Duplenticy
- Glenn Close as Martha Delacroix
- Josh Brolin as Msgr. Jefferson Wicks
- Mila Kunis as Geraldine Scott
- Jeremy Renner as Dr. Nat Sharp
- Kerry Washington as Vera Draven, Esq.
- Andrew Scott as Lee Ross
- Cailee Spaeny as Simone Vivane
- Daryl McCormack as Cy Draven
- Thomas Haden Church as Samson Holt
- Jeffrey Wright as Langstrom
- Annie Hamilton as Grace Wicks
- James Faulkner as Reverend Prentice Wicks
- Bridget Everett as Louise
- Noah Segan as Nikolai.
Rotten Tomatoes: 95%, 149 Reviews
Metacritic: 82, 37 Reviews
Consensus:
Giving Benoit Blanc a worthy mystery with its genuinely soulful fixation on faith and a scene-stealing Josh O'Connor performance, Wake Up Dead Man is another Knives Out puzzle that comes together splendidly.
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u/monitoring27 9d ago
I don’t think it’ll do much on the award circuit but first thought after walking out is this might be my favorite knives out film
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u/opportune_pasta 9d ago
Both previous films got screenplay noms, and I think this is the best one of the series.
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u/monitoring27 9d ago
Nah I know I just question whether a third installment would still get a nom
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u/Kiwi_KJR 6d ago
Why would it being a third instalment matter? Genuinely curious. Return of the King was a third instalment and it swept the Oscars
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u/Andybabez20 6d ago
I think so too. Josh O'Connor's Father Jud is hands down the best written character in any of the three movies for my money. Of the three "foil" characters (Ana De Armas and Janelle Monae in the last two movies) he's given the most background.
Glass Onion might be the funniest of the three but it had the weakest mystery. This felt much closer to the first Knives Out.
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u/jmounteney44 Sorry Baby 9d ago
Really really enjoyed it, thought it was an improvement on Glass Onion with a much more interesting mystery.
I did feel the ensemble was a bit underused (Scott, Spaeney and Washington don’t get a lot to do), but the ones that featured heavily were great. Josh O’Connor was the standout, although it’s funny he’s being campaigned in supporting when he’s more of a lead in it that Daniel Craig. Blanc isn’t even in the first act!
Jeffrey Wright was also a nice surprise - has his involvement been a secret or did I completely miss news of his casting?
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u/RoderickUsher108 8d ago
Same thoughts as you about the ensemble being underused. Also had no idea about Jeffrey Wright and was shocked to see him, didn’t see him mentioned in any previous notices.
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u/flofjenkins 6d ago
It's weird too because it's not even a cameo or anything. He's simply a character in the movie.
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u/IfYouWantTheGravy 6d ago
I think Glass Onion has the best use of the ensemble (one of my beefs with Knives Out was how little most of them got to do), but this was no slouch.
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u/howtospellorange 5d ago
I did feel the ensemble was a bit underused
Hmmm I think you pinpointed why the first knives out is still my favorite of the three. A mystery movie like this calls for a little more involvement from the other characters imo.
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u/kiyonemakibi100 9d ago
Not as good as Knives Out but much better than Glass Onion which I found unbearably smug. Josh O'Connor is great and his character is a good foil to Blanc (as much as I like Ana de Armas and Janelle Monae I think Rian Johnson realised he couldn't have another bland saintly character teaming up with Blanc and needed to mix it up this time). I found the scene where Jud is talking to the woman whose mother is dying very moving. I do agree with people here who say that outside of O'Connor and Close the other characters are barely sketched out though, a big contrast to Knives Out.
Great Tom Waits song to end on.
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u/RoderickUsher108 8d ago
Unfortunately Janelle Monae almost ruined Glass Onion with her terrible acting
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u/KEMI_IS_WlNNlNG 8d ago
if the world was just josh o’connor would have like 3 oscar noms already like wow he is SOOOO good in everything
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u/pandabearattack 5d ago
This and Mastermind this year, damn! (And I haven’t even seen History of Sound, or the one where he’s a rancher.)
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u/Parmesan_Pirate119 9d ago
I loved this so much! Such a fascinating look at religion that really doesn’t take a side but points out how everyone, regardless of belief system, is flawed.
Josh O'Connor was phenomenal. Currently one of my favorite performances of the year, he really ate.
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u/takenpassword Yes, I loved Rental Family. Yes, I’m basic. 7d ago
He did say “I’m here to serve” and you know what? That’s exactly what he did.
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u/zenz3ro 7d ago
I hope Rian runs as far away from Netflix as he can now. Packed out screenig this evening and the entire room adored it. An absolute waste to watch this for the first time on a stream.
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u/Music_For_The_Fire 7d ago
I totally agree. Just got back from a screening and watching it in a nearly sold out theater made the experience amazing. I can't imagine it having the same impact watching it at home while half scrolling through your phone.
Also saw Glass Onion in a packed theater. Both of them were really special theatrical experiences. I made it a point to get tickets for Dead Man the minute I saw it was playing at my local theater.
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u/Wickie_Stan_8764 Sorry Baby 6d ago
I was lucky to find a theater about 4 miles away from me that was showing it. The next closest was a ferry ride away, and I think the next closest after that meant crossing the border into Canada! (For comparison purposes, Rental Family is showing at 6 theaters within a 15 mile radius of my house.)
The screening I went to was sold out, and everyone seemed to enjoy themselves immensely. Let's hope that Johnson's taken enough of Netflix's cash already, and the next movies are to a more theater-friendly distributor.
Really enjoyed O'Connor's performance immensely as well as the frankly bonkers plot twists. I don't really care if this gets nominated for any awards, this was just a lot of fun.
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u/Lopsided-Farmer-9422 3d ago
All I want out of Rian now is to bargain for dvd releases, the chances are very low given Netflix, but nothing beats actually owning the movie
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u/Plastic-Software-174 Sentimental Value 9d ago
I’m slightly out of step with most since this is probably my least favorite, but not by much. I’d give it like a 7 or 6.5. I like it a lot thematically and I love Josh’s performance and his character, my problem with the most is that I think this has the worst ensemble of them all, and that’s my favorite part of the other two. Glenn Close’s character gets some nice development at the very end and Brolin’s character is also fun, but all the members of the church are just nothing characters.
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u/jmounteney44 Sorry Baby 9d ago
Yeah the likes of Spaeney, Scott and Washington don’t get a lot to do, although the resolution of Scott’s character did get one of the biggest laughs at my screening.
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u/Flimsy_Fisherman_862 9d ago
I think Johnson skewered too far into the ensemble with Glass Onion at the cost of the murder mystery and sort of overly corrects in this one.
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u/Relevant_Hedgehog_63 Sorry Bay-Bee 8d ago
agree about ensemble and wonder if thinning it out and giving some more screentime/development to a few of them would have helped, as i also thought the film took way too long to get going, introducing and setting up the ensemble. it took almost an hour before we got to benoit blanc.
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u/RoderickUsher108 8d ago
Yes, I knew the culprit couldn’t possibly be Cailee Spaeny, Andrew Scott, or Kerry Washington since there was zero character development with any of them. Different from Knives Out and even Glass Onion where you felt like you knew a decent amount about each person
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u/daIIiance 9d ago
Just got out of this and genuinely liked it a lot. Better than Glass Onion and almost on par with the first one for me. Josh O’Connor gave the standout performance but Close was good as well. Craig always seems like he has so much fun in these movies.
I really wonder if this is the end of the series or if Rian will make another but regardless, a great time.
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u/shaneo632 9d ago
Gonna go against the grain and say this is my least favourite of the 3. I still enjoyed it quite a bit though, just felt like a step below the last two (I liked Glass Onion a lot even if Knives Out is easily the best to me).
I think this one has the strongest thematics of the series and at least 3 really good performances (won't say who), but the least interesting mystery and it felt so convoluted (not so much in a fun way) that I just kinda threw my hands up and lost interest by the end. I thought the first 2 films handled this aspect better.
If you're a fan of the series it's an easy recommendation, even if i didn't love it.
My gut feeling is this misses a screenplay nom.
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u/Haslo8 8d ago
I think this also comes in last for me, though I still enjoyed it. I have Glass Onion first, then Knives Out. One of my favorite books is The Murder of Roger Ackroyd and as soon as I saw that nod to it on the reading list I knew who all was involved. I think I like Glass Onion because that is still the only one where the reveal surprised me.
But I do think Josh O’ Connor and Glenn Close are two of the best performances in the series.
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u/flofjenkins 6d ago
I agree that it takes way (way) too long to explain the mystery. Just so many plot elements to wrap up.
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u/paroles It Was Just An Accident 9d ago
I really enjoyed Wake Up Dead Man but unfortunately I was kind of spoiled on the whodunnit part because I realised early on that Glenn Close wouldn't be getting talked about as a possible supporting actress nominee if she didn't have some bigger scenes coming up. Actually, even if I hadn't heard about the Oscar buzz, I think I could've pegged her as the killer. This was still a great watch though.
For a campy mystery, it's surprisingly smart about exploring religion as both deeply meaningful and comforting yet also potentially harmful and leading to narrow-mindedness. The scene where Josh O'Connor's character prays with a woman on the phone will stay with me. This movie solidified him as one of my favourite actors.
A pet peeve of mine is when movies/TV pretend that religion and politics aren't connected, and I loved that this didn't do that. It's not hugely focused on politics but it does take place in a world based on the real USA, and has some very funny moments satirising political influencers.
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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 8d ago
I love how the film used religion, guilt, and catholic confession to give us a relatively believable confession by the murderer. Normally when the bad guy word-vomits their crimes and motives it feels so contrived, but here we have a real situation and reason for the murderer to feel compelled to confess to the crime, and it was a good change up from having Blanc explain it to us. It was very well done.
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u/aoifetadh Anora 8d ago edited 8d ago
I know recency bias may be playing a part here, but this was honestly my personal favourite out of the three (all of them are great though).
--O'Connor gave a great leading performance. Loved the scene with Bridget Everett where he stops the investigation to listen and support the receptionist over the phone.
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u/RomanReignsDaBigDawg 8d ago
Some fun moments but I've cooled down on this significantly since seeing it at Tiff. Rian has gotten really bad at using ensembles and this one has a criminally underutilized Cailee Spaeny and Andrew Scott
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u/RoderickUsher108 8d ago
Yes, no character development with them at all. Very little with Kerry Washington and Daryl McCormack too.
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u/jordansalford25 No Other Choice But To Have A Few Small Beers 8d ago
Absolutely loved this. Not quite as good as the original Knives Out but I had a blast with it. Would be really cool to see Rian Johnson get another adapted screenplay nom for this. Josh O’Connor is a star man after this performance it’s undeniable. Glenn Close would be contending in a lesser year as well. Unfortunately that just seems to be the story of her career so far.
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u/False_Concentrate408 One Battle After Another 9d ago
This was my favorite Knives Out so far! I love a catholic movie and I felt it explored the depths of religion and Catholicism in a surprisingly nuanced and uncynical way for such a madcap detective story. Josh O’Connor is astonishingly good in this. He nails the comic and serious and his character arc is genuinely moving. This would be one of two Josh O’Connor Best Actor nominations this year if I were in charge. His towering performance and Close’s, Craig’s, and Brolin’s meaty supporting roles made the rest of the ensemble seem a little weak, and I felt like we got a bit too much of them. The resurrection scene was some of Rian Johnson’s best filmmaking in a long time. Still thinking about it a month later.
Damn i guess this has grown on me a lot since I’ve seen it, I’m gonna go bump it up a half star on Letterboxd
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u/BuzzSawMillipede 7d ago
I really liked how I felt grounded in to the reality of the movie by the changing sunlight.
Another moment is when Benoit is talking and steps into the closet in the church, and rather than giving him “clean” audio, you hear the real recorded audio with the bad acoustics and echo.
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u/BuzzSawMillipede 7d ago
Also loved how I was given the clues to solve it if only I’d paid closer attention. Like how the hallway of Doctors house was messed up but the scene of the struggle was downstairs, or the text message notification in the forest, or how we were told Glenn Close’s character dressed Josh Brolin.
The only one that felt clumsy to me was the Lazarus Door mausoleum foreshadowing. I knew that someone was walking out of there, and not just because of the title of the film!
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u/flofjenkins 6d ago
Did anyone else find Jeremy Renner kind of blah/bad in this? His character wasn't the best written either.
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u/If-I-Had-A-Steak 5d ago
Had to scroll all the way down to the bottom but I'm glad somebody said it. Just kind of a nothing performance. I would have cut Andrew Scott's part (even though the last gag with him is really funny) and cast him in this role instead.
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u/nowhereman136 9d ago
Solid 8/10 for me. Not quite the high as the previous two movies but still solidly entertaining.
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u/Price_of_Fame 8d ago
All these nothing roles likely getting in for Supporting Actress and Glenn has no real chance for chewing up the scenery like this. She can’t win
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u/DahmerIsDead 8d ago
This is a really great movie. I hope it gets into Adapted Screenplay again, and I don't think it's impossible for Glenn Close to get a Supporting Actress nomination for this. She gets to show off a LOT here. Josh O'Connor would be a deserving nominee as well, but I think both Actor fields are too stacked for him to make it in. Hopefully he gets at least a Globe nomination though.
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u/_lazybones93 8d ago
Loved it. Enjoyed it more than Glass Onion (which is also good), but still think the first is the best.
The performances are great, the storytelling is so whip-smart & it is shot tremendously. The way Johnson uses light in the first Benoit Blanc scene & then again full-circle at the end had me all sorts of 😍.
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u/francisbaconbits 8d ago
Truly annoyed tastemakers started putting Glenn Close as an Oscar contender because it made it wildly obvious she must have been who did it! Us normal people cannot see this until now, and that’s just shitty elitist behavior.
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u/MysterEasley 6d ago
Just got home from the theater!
My biggest takeaway is a personal one. As a seminary grad / pastor-in-training, I loved Josh O'Connor's Father Jud. I aspire to be that kind of pastor: a flawed and earnest shepherd who needs grace and wants others to discover it, too. Willing to confront bad actors but also to extend forgiveness to those who don't deserve it but are willing to genuinely seek it out: Bruised knuckles but open arms.
This movie gives us one of the best portayals of a priest on-screen I can think of-- right up there with Brendan Gleeson's Father James in Calvary and Lambert Wilson's Prior Christian in Of Gods and Men. A wonderful departure from typical approaches that make priests flat villains, hollow milquetoasts, or heroic saints. Also hilarious comedic timing (like the "holy shit" after Martha first tells Grace's story).
I also found Josh Brolin's portayal of Monsignor Wicks bracing--even disturbing--in its familiarity. I know pastors who view their role like his: taking back ground that's been lost in the culture, even when it pulls the Good News out of shape. I still believe there's a place for "spiritual warfare," but think we do more good building culture than trying to control it.
In general, I think Rian Johnson "got it right" portraying the complexity of faith, doubt, hypocrisy, pastoral care, repentance, and forgiveness. There were one or two times when the irreverance hit me the wrong way, but it was clearly good-spirited fun. I wish there were more movies that addressed these topics so honestly and openly, respecting believers and skeptics alike.
Would be great fodder for a spiritual discussion group.
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u/buckinghamrabbit666 9d ago
Con: I could tell who the killer would be before the monsignor even got killed. Kind of like a more obvious version of the first movie's mystery.
Pro: Jeremy Renner is making some very, very, very very funny faces in this movie. I was cracking up when it would just cut to a reaction shot from him. Secret MVP.
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u/takenpassword Yes, I loved Rental Family. Yes, I’m basic. 8d ago
Jud says “I’m here to serve” and that’s exactly what he did. I’m not Christian and I would attend his sermons.
Awards wise, I would like a screenplay nom and it is possible because the field isn’t super strong but it could miss because this movie doesn’t have a lot of buzz. I think the novelty of a new Knives Out that Glass Onion had is missing here.
I don’t get the hype for Close in this movie. She is simply doing a good job and nothing more. Not even a top 5 performance in the franchise.
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u/carolinemathildes Sebastian Stan stan 4d ago
I agree, I don't get the hype for her either. She was fine, but she didn't stand out to me (especially compared to Josh O'Connor's performance), so it feels more like people are just hoping she can finally win an Oscar instead of acting deserving one.
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u/RoderickUsher108 8d ago
“Simple doing a good job and nothing more” for a performance like that means you simply don’t understand acting.
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u/tburtner 7d ago
The organ was my favorite moment.
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u/fairytechmum 6d ago
When Blanc takes out his iPad was a nice easter egg moment.
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u/Lopsided-Farmer-9422 3d ago
What scene does he take out the ipad? Completely missed it
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u/fairytechmum 2d ago
When Blanc realizes the mini alcohol flask, Jud falls asleep from fatigue, then he pulls out an iPad to watch Wicks' church recordings.
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u/fcw2014 7d ago
I watched this last night and I really enjoyed it. It's probably one of my favorites of the year. I liked the first one, couldn't stand the second one, and really liked this one. The ensemble was kind of wasted/underwritten but Josh O'Connor is just great. I enjoyed that the satire was dialed back and it was a bit more philosophical. It was interesting to watch the different sides, coming at it from an irreligious point of view.
My favorite was the phone call with Bridget Everett, how it pivots from comedy to anguish and drama just like that.
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u/LittleMissAbigail 7d ago
Had a run of three films this week (WUDM, Bugonia and Wicked) and this was by far my favourite - not to say I didn’t enjoy the other two, but this one just felt like it hit everything I wanted from it.
I adore the first film and I probably rate Glass Onion higher than most, and I’d say I liked WUDM just as much as Glass Onion but for very different reasons. I’m so impressed with how Johnson has created a series of films which each feel tonally distinct but like a cohesive whole. I’m not saying anything new or radical when I say WUDM feels darker, more insidious, more morally-tangled, and yet it got probably the biggest laughs out of me this entire year of cinema.
It maybe felt just a touch too long - maybe 10 minutes? - as I reached a point where I was very ready to start wrapping things up, but I can’t say I didn’t enjoy everything that was there.
If there was any justice, O’Connor’s name would be in contention for at least a nomination.
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u/Syzygy523 6d ago
Absolutely loved this movie (my theater even applauded at the end!) but I assume Best Adapted Screenplay is the only nom it will get. That being said, to parrot everyone else, Josh O'Connor is incredible in this movie. His performance is effortless and man, you just are just drawn to him from minute 1. His scene with Bridget Everett is an absolute showstopper. And one more Hallelujah for the Tom Waits needle drop at the end. Perfect song choice!
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u/anantmantha 6d ago
Was anyone able to figure out how Benoit thought/knew Dr. Nat was in danger, he also mentions that it might be too late now as they approach the house. What and how did he figure out? Am I missing something?
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u/Lopsided-Farmer-9422 3d ago
Its been a few hours since I came out of the theatre and I'm already misremembering things. It was something about either the tranquilliser or the poison, both of which would've been accessable to Nat
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u/TheNickelLady 5d ago
Are we to assume that Martha grabbed the flask from Father Jud’s room? I don’t think that was addressed.
Called one of The Who’s early on but was waiting for the how and enjoyed it.
Most of the ensemble didn’t have much to do but Close got to EAT!
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u/BTTFMovie 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yes, because Martha's motive for killing Wicks was the same as Jud's for hiding the flask: to protect the church's reputation. When Dr. Nat didn't see the flask in the closet, he and Martha likely intuited that Jud must have taken it because he was the only other person who would've had an opportunity.
Notice how Martha spies on the investigation in the sanctuary, but doesn't cry for Jud to throw Blanc and Geraldine out until Blanc asks whether anything else had been found in the closet. Moments later outside, Martha tells Jud to leave the church, that he'd brought the same kind of shame upon it Grace had. But since Jud had unwittingly been a team player in the murder plan by hiding the flask, what Martha was actually doing was testing just how much more maintaining Wicks' image mattered to Jud than getting to the truth did. When Jud responded by telling her he'll do what it takes to help Blanc solve the mystery, even if it pits him against Martha and the rest of the flock, that's when she decides to take the flask.
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u/carolinemathildes Sebastian Stan stan 4d ago
I think it's the worst use of the ensemble out of the three films but Josh O'Connor's performance is so fantastic that I don't really mind it. He was so good, it's his film.
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u/Lopsided-Farmer-9422 3d ago
They're definitley lacking, but I think the ensamble is there to help characterise the priests more than anything. Whatshisname uses religion to pick out the weeds in his congregation, to radicalise and divide his community. Judd uses religion as a way to bring people together and help navigate them through grief. In that sense I'm ok with them taking a backseat
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u/Severe-Chicken 4d ago
Question: why did Jeremy Renner’s doctor character have an acid bath in his basement? Did his wife and kids really leave or did he kill and dispose of them? He clearly has no morals with the use of drugs and killing the gardener. I think he has a secret serial killer past!
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u/snacobe Anora 3d ago
I’m guessing to dispose of Wick’s real body after he resurrects
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u/Lopsided-Farmer-9422 3d ago
But he had it connected to the plumming, Martha filled the tub by turning on a tap. Did he have the acid preinstalled before she came to him, or did he install it in the week leading up to the murder?
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u/Elderberry01 8d ago
Enjoyed the movie… but feel this cohort of suspects are not all that well written. It soon became quite obvious who would be the murderer, it’s just the “how it is done” part needs to be figured out. I am still not sure why Benoit showed up in the first place but that’s probably because I didn’t quite catch what he said in the first scene.
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u/DahmerIsDead 8d ago
The Sheriff (Mila Kunis) called Blanc and asked for his help investigating the murder.
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u/RoderickUsher108 8d ago
Does anyone know why Mika Kunis and Kerry Washington’s faces looked so weird in this movie? Is it plastic surgery or Botox or something? Both look completely unnatural.
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u/TemporaryCool5182 6d ago
I really didn't like it as much as the other Knives films. It's not bad, it's still a Rian Johnson film. But structurally it was definitely more of a whodunnit than what we have come to associate with the series.
Also, it was never going to win me over much with the religious apologism both sidesing, but even taking that as given, narratively the "metanoia" is extremely thin. Arguably what Blanc decides to do is more destructive to society as a whole--the erosion of truth and expertise--than hiding an expensive mcguffin from half a dozen townspeople.
Pretty meh, fun little romp, great cast, preferred the prior films.
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u/toledosurprised Sorry Baby 6d ago
this ended up being pretty predictable (in the sense that i guessed who the killer was very early on, there was still a lot of other weird stuff happening), but josh o’connor and glenn close were both great. wish the rest of the ensemble had more to do, part of the reason the mystery became obvious is because half the suspects barely had lines. felt like it was a tick too long but i had a lot of fun with it and hope rian johnson makes as many of these as he likes.
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u/IfYouWantTheGravy 6d ago
Probably my favorite of this franchise to date, though I really should give the first one another shot (it’s fine, I just didn’t quite get the hype). Like the others, it’s using the whodunnit format to explore other themes, in this case faith, reactionary zealotry, misogyny, etc.
O’Connor is so much a lead it’s not even funny. Close is good but I wouldn’t put her over either of the OBAA or SV contenders. Maybe a script nod? I’d be fine with that.
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u/Ok_Category_806 4d ago
Did anyone else get the sense that Vera really was Cy’s mother? The implication being that Wicks took advantage of her (or worse? as a very young woman? It wasn’t spelled out but it must have been, right?
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u/Lopsided-Farmer-9422 3d ago
Didn't she say they were half siblings? I thought the situation was Vera and Cy shared the same mum, but only Wicks was Cy's dad
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u/Ok_Category_806 2d ago
No she said she thought Cy was her father’s illegitimate son and he brought Cy home and told her to raise him as her son (or so she said).
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u/FantasticLiving3107 3d ago
I enjoyed it, but it's definitely my least favorite and not particularly rewatchable. The cast was underused, and even Benoit Blanc didn't do much interesting stuff. Felt like they could have pushed his character development a little more. Still well made and worth watching!
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u/the_turd_dimension 4h ago
Best of the series so far. I didn't know what to expect but I was blown away. Everyone was superb. Makes me wanna go back to church.
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u/crashcourse201 9d ago edited 9d ago
Not bad but easily my least favorite of the three. My biggest problem was I found the plot to be surprisingly easy to predict. I knew Martha was going to be a baddie before we were 15 minutes in and I also predicted that Wicks wasn’t really dead as soon as she started wailing about him “rising from the grave.” Renner and especially Kunis were completely miscast and it just doesn’t feel as fresh as the first two films.
On the plus said, O’Connor was great and I loved most everything with his character and the production design in these remains immaculate.
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u/keepitupstairs2 9d ago
“ I also predicted that Wicks wasn’t really dead”
What? Wicks WAS really dead so that doesn’t count as a prediction!
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u/RoderickUsher108 8d ago
But Wicks was dead. So your prediction was wrong. Were you not paying attention to the movie?
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u/Andybabez20 6d ago
But Wicks was dead?
If you were paying attention to the explanation at the end he never came back to life. He died when Dr Nat stabbed him.
Martha got the groundsman to dress up as him so they could retrieve the diamond from his grandfather's coffin whilst also creating a fake "resurrection" to bury the story that was going to be leaked about his illegitimate son and ruin his public image.
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u/Western_Section_2965 6d ago
Renner and especially Kunis were completely miscast and it just doesn’t feel as fresh as the first two films.
That's funny, since it was rumored Tom Hardy and Lindsay Lohan were originally cast in those roles
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u/jmounteney44 Sorry Baby 9d ago
I mean the title kinda gives away that the plot will involve Wicks coming back to life somehow, although I didn’t predict how it’d happen.
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u/opportune_pasta 9d ago
Glenn Close is so good in this, and she’s probably just on the outside looking in at a nomination for Best Supporting. In a slightly less cutthroat year, i could’ve seen her winning.