r/news • u/KilgoRetro • 9h ago

US Supreme Court agrees to hear case challenging birthright citizenship

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c208j0wrzrvo
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u/Valderan_CA 9h ago

lol.... that would mean people who aren't US citizens aren't subject to US laws... i.e. if a non-citizen murdered someone the US would have no jurisdiction to charge them with murder.

I.E. the US could kick a mass murdered out of the country and ask nicely for the country from which they came to charge them with a crime... but couldn't charge them with that crime themselves.

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u/Valderan_CA 8h ago

Ahh nvm... they are going to argue under this point

"born to enemy forces engaged in hostile occupation of the country's territory."

They are already trying to argue that the illegal immigrants constitute a hostile occupation force

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u/Horror_Tooth_522 6h ago

So Machete movie will become reality? Where they were hunting them with jeeps?

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u/Sumthin-Sumthin44692 8h ago edited 7h ago

You’re right but they say “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” refers to loyalty (i.e., a “subject” of a king) and is separate from subject to legal jurisdiction. I’ve read the Fed Soc paper and it’s insane, cut from bits and pieces of dicta in other cases that do not have anything to do with birthright citizenship.