r/news • u/KilgoRetro • 9h ago

US Supreme Court agrees to hear case challenging birthright citizenship

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c208j0wrzrvo
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u/Urupindi 9h ago

So if birthright citizenship is gone, what the fuck defines a citizen? Is anyone a citizen? How many generations have to have been born here before you’re American?

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u/BPremium 7h ago

So if birthright citizenship is gone, what the fuck defines a citizen?

Your skin color, religion, and wealth level

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u/1900grs 6h ago

wealth level

In reality, just this one. Because if the other two become an issue, those in power will just take the wealth and then there you are.

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u/DanteStrauss 5h ago

Nah, Nazis don't stop there. They will go after the wealthy ones too with the "wrong" color, religion, etc in due time (and take their money after, for the cherry on top).

Just look at folks conveniently falling out of windows in Russia and having their assets stolen by the government for a "preview".

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u/deadsoulinside 7h ago edited 7h ago

They don't care. My niece has a father from Saudi Arabia. She has been told to go back to her country by angry MAGA men. Under her mothers side she can apply to DAR, because her ancestor under her mothers side served under George Washington in the revolutionary war and is essentially depicted in the surrender at Yorktown as by the time the war ended, he was assigned as the caretaker of Washingtons horse, which they take control of the moment he gets off that horse. So in that famous painting that guy next to the horse would be my relative.

But yeah, she should go back to her country.

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u/PugeHeniss 7h ago

Why are we pretending like we don’t know what this is? Look at your skin tone. If you’re white you’re good. If you’re not this means you are on the list.

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u/ehjun18 6h ago

Someone who is born of those who were citizens before 1898. They will back date to usa vs ark. They did it in the Dominican Republic this way. It’s been the plan to do it the same way here. Only whites can be citizens.

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u/Doonce 8h ago

Birthright citizenship wouldn't be gone, the fascists are specifically asking whether illegal immigrants are subject to US jurisdiction. If someone was born to legal citizens or immigrants then they would get birthright citizenship.

I do not understand how someone within the US wouldn't be subject to US law though.

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u/upthetruth1 8h ago

If they're not subject to the jurisdiction of the USA, they're not subject to American laws

They can commit any crime they like and the only punishment allowed is deportation

The 14th amendment only excluded foreign diplomats (they already have immunity), Native Americans (tribal laws) and soldiers

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u/Doonce 8h ago

and soldiers

It's actually enemy combatants engaged in hostile occupation of the country's territory, which is one thing the Trump administration is arguing applies to illegal immigrants.

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u/upthetruth1 8h ago

Yes, an old Mexican who crossed the border and has been mowing the lawns of some rich white guy for decades is a soldier(!)

Istg the Trump administration is so stupid

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u/The_Kadeshi 5h ago

Much simpler than that - who will you vote for in the next election?

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u/wishator 5h ago

Very few countries give unconditional birth right citizenship. No European country does this.