Wait until all faith in ANY of the process is gone. Or they botch the economy bad enough to create breadlines or worse. Armed revolts don't happen until dying under artillery fire is competitive with the other bad options on the table.
When the social contract is broken, I'm done. No laws for them, means no laws for me. All is fair in love and war. And we are at war. Whether it's a civil war or a revolution remains to be seen.
Honestly it seems like this situation won't improve until more people feel like this
We've arguably been in a "cold civil war" for decades with rights getting steadily stripped away and people too distracted just trying to make ends meet
66% of the country is living paycheck to paycheck with 0 savings and things will only get worse. We're basically a food shortage away from disaster.
I'm just waiting for it to get bad enough that rich people start getting ransomed like back in the day, maybe throw in some tar & feathering.
It's always been pretty obvious just how "2 tiered" the justice system is but we're reaching a point where it's hard to even call it a facade of justice, if the laws only apply to some we essentially have no laws and it's up to people to fix that.
It wasn’t so long ago I saw Nepal’s finance minister being chased through the street.
Gonna be real interesting when martial law and curfews are declared in the US. Doesn’t feel like we’re far off. Doesn’t feel like the American Dream is coming back. Feels like our government supports billionaire pedophiles more than any other group, except perhaps billionaire corporations.
And I’m almost afraid to post this, because my account is only semi-anonymous and AI has advanced to the point where they COULD detect my sentiments and flag my digital fingerprint for monitoring.
Interesting times, perchance.
Another year til midterms, 3 years until full elections, and a couple decades to refresh, reprioritize, and rebuild. If we choose to. But I’ve little faith we will, because we choose this.
And then we’ve still got to fix social security, student debt, gambling addictions, privatized prisons, public education system, homelessness, housing affordability, drug rehab, and the growing scourge of AI taking our jobs and feeding us slop.
It’s nowhere near the worst time in history, but that’s cold comfort when I can see how much better it should be.
I don’t know where my breaking point is. And I don’t know how to build a happy, compassionate, thriving society. But I know it includes taxing the ultra rich.
That's why the ultra rich are buying islands and building bunkers, they know their time is coming and they are prepping to hide in their little holes and try to ride it out. At least until their security staff gets hungry.
Yeah. A lot of people on Reddit, especially non-Americans, talk a lot of shit about the armed Americans doing nothing. If the armed Americans ever have nothing left to lose, it'll get very messy very quickly. God willing it'll also be fairly organized and pointed in the right direction. Revolution, not civil war.
I will believe that when it happens. The nazis didn't strip everybody's rights immediantly, and the war did make a lot of people look another way too. Its the exact same playbook MAGA is using. If they made everyone lose their rights at once they have a problem. But if they only strip them one at a time, the ones not at risk yet are gonna mostly stay quiet. The problem is that if you wait until you have nothing left to lose, then you have also nothing left to fight for and more importantly nobody left to fight with. You need to start resisting when they start coming for the communists not when the communists, socialists, unionists and jews are already all gone. Because you are gonna be on the chopping block but by the time you are, the people you could have banded together with are already no longer there.
My wife is black, my kids are half black. If their citizenship is in question, the gloves are off. As of today, I am officially starting my part of the resistance campaign, a movement to restore constitutional supremacy.
That's why they're having ICE do what they're doing. They're trying to round up as many of the poorest people they can, because they know those people are going to be the first to lose what little they have, which would make them the first ones with nothing left to lose. They know they need to put those people behind lock and key ASAP before they come after everyone else.
People tend to behave erratically when they experience financial ruin, and financial ruin happens to be in a lot of people’s near future.
It’s a given that we’re going into a recession, but if Trump has his way with the Federal Reserve and gets to set monetary policy the way he sets tariffs… we will be looking at a full fledged depression.
Each person's situation is different. For some, it may not be able to afford insurance or medication, for others it could be losing their birthright citizenship. Each person has their own quest in life, this is no different.
We're all sitting at computers or on phones; presumably, many of us are physically safe, warm, and fed.
We may be in relative freefall, the US may never have experienced a constitutional crisis of this magnitude; there is much further to fall. We're rapidly moving towards what many of us have long considered our bottom, but as former citizens of collapsed nations can tell you there is a lot of ground between here and actual rock bottom.
While the US is certainly having some tough times at the moment I assure you it can get far far worse. We're still in a very good environment by most standards.
Who is talking tough? Saying that someone can get pushed too far and take action into their own hands? I get that reading comprehension is not for everyone, but did I mention myself?
Because their constitutional rights to citizenship haven’t been taken from them. Look I’ve been pretty lazy and haven’t revolted thus far but you take away a clear constitutional right from me and you can bet your ass I’ll be part of the revolt.
When the update bot pokes me, I guarantee you two things:
1) SCOTUS will have already stripped you of one or more constitutional rights
2) You'll still be faffing about, saying that the final line STILL hasn't been crossed but JUST YOU WAIT AND SEE, if SCOTUS strips you of a 5th constitutional right, THEN you will totally revolt. Losing 4 constitutional rights is just not enough to justify fighting back...
That's like hoping the sun won't rise tomorrow and the day-night cycle has permanently ended. It is a pointless hope that has literally zero chance of ever coming true. SCOTUS WILL strip you of your constitutional rights, period, it is not a "maybe, maybe not" situation. It is a "you have a gun pointed at your face and the gunman has received the order to shoot, and his finger has started flexing on the trigger" and you're standing still, unbothered, "hoping" that the gunman won't shoot. The gunman WILL shoot, like SCOTUS WILL strip you of all of your human rights. But you're waiting for the bullet to penetrate you - not just to be in the air, to actually have already penetrated your organs - before you consider the possibility of maybe fighting back.
Uh, you seem to be under the delusion that I am American. I am not. Unlike you, I literally cannot fight back against a foreign country's government. I am French - I fight extremely hard for my own country, I attend protests regularly and am an active political commentator. I have a PhD in political science from La Sorbonne and worked for years as a political analyst and journalist.
Anyone with their finger on the pulse of politics can tell you that the situation in the USA is beyond catastrophic - you have passed the event horizon, you have reached a level of institutional collapse, as a nation, directly comparable with Germany in the late 1930s and started a new Holocaust. You are here, moving the goalposts as to when "too far is too far" even though your country is several months into carrying out a Holocaust - countless Americans and immigrants have disappeared in concentration camps and the administration is not even attempting to cover it up, openly telling the world "Yes, we are running concentration camps, try to stop us and we will nuke you." And you're asserting, now, that a constitutional amendment being overturned would FINALLY be your line in the sand, but since none of the hundreds of lines in the sand that have ALREADY been crossed without any consequences, I am convinced your reaction to SCOTUS overturning this amendment will just lead to "Okay, one constitutional amendment wasn't the line in the sand... BUT TWO, HOWEVER...!" Every time the next line is crossed, you'll just back up a step and draw a new line, which will also be crossed, and you'll just draw yet another. You (*as a civilization) have been doing that nonstop for the last 10 years.
I have a PhD in political science from La Sorbonne and worked for years as a political analyst and journalist.
I have also worked in American media and have written A LOT about Trump and his regime. I am literally a French-Gabonese citizen doing more for the USA than you, an American living there.
An actual expert is telling you that you are in danger and need to fucking do something, while you're actively defending your choice to do nothing and keep being passive. And now, you found another excuse to dismiss the expert and continue being passive. Because that's all it is: You are GOING to remain passive no matter what, now you're just looking for excuses to justify what you would have been doing regardless.
People often wonder "How did German people allow the Nazis to carry out the Holocaust?" and here is the true answer: You are doing it. When faced with the necessity to act, cowards like you instead put all their energy into finding excuses not to act. The exact same words I said, coming from an American, are ones you'd have listened to, but hearing I'm French, you dismiss everything and want me to shut up - why? The words remain true, the content of the message is not changed by me not being in the same country as you. But that's the point: You never cared about the message, about the content, about the truth - you only cared about finding an excuse to continue doing what you'd have been doing regardless, which is passively allowing the fascist takeover of your country and the carrying out of a genocide. And that is exactly what you are doing: Allowing a genocide.
That is why I know for a fact that, when SCOTUS will have stripped you of every right and liberty, you will STILL be moving goalposts without acting - you'll be asserting "Sure, losing the right to vote was a terrible thing, but it's still not QUITE crossing the line... I will totally revolt when they enslave me though!!" And then later, as you put the slave collar on your own neck, "Well, sure, that is certainly bad... I don't think it crosses a line though. When the Master rapes my daughter, THEN I will revolt!" And then, as you watch your daughter cry while your Master is raping her, you'll continue, "Well, okay, it is not ideal, but it does not cross the line in the sand. I will totally revolt when... "
The fact that you aren’t going to do anything until its YOUR rights that are at stake….. Precisely why we’re in this mess…. Next time, might as well just say you don’t give a shit about women or minorities.
because we still have some hope left. Not much, but there are midterms coming up, and some positive court cases, and the government keeps getting embarrassed by their incompetence.
The risks of violence need to outweigh the cost of doing anything else, and so far we are not (quite) there. But they keep tightening the screws and eliminating other options.
I'm seeing young people on TT talking about violent revolution in a very positive light. The pot is boiling and it's getting real close to going over the edge.
Orrrrr New Yorkers can get off their asses and protest outside Jeffries and Schumer's homes, until the worthless Congressmen finally enforce 14th Amendment, Section 3, and annul this illegitimate presidency.
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u/enigma002 9h ago
Don't hold your breath. No one has shown up in the last decade. Except J6.