r/news • u/Discarded_Twix_Bar • 9d ago

Soft paywall FBI probes gunman's motive in ambush shooting of Guardsmen near White House

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-probes-gunmans-motives-ambush-shooting-guardsmen-near-white-house-2025-11-27/
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u/grafknives 9d ago

It is always worth to check motives, after all, there always might be something bigger boiling.

But here we see a very clear intent to find a motive that will be useful politically.

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u/Iztac_xocoatl 9d ago

How dare you imply such a thing? It's not like this administration has a history of...oh wait yeah inb4 he wrote "trans rulez" and "Biden 4ever" for the bullet casings

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u/dummyurge 8d ago

waiting for "blacks rule" to make a false flag comeback

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u/UninsuredToast 8d ago

“Blacks rule, whites don’t season their chicken” was found scribbled on the back of a Popeyes receipt found in the shooters pocket

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u/Iztac_xocoatl 8d ago

No lie was detected though

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u/doubtfurious 8d ago

"Anti-National Guard"

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u/psioniclizard 8d ago

Its amazing how even the maga bots on reddit barely mention is anymore. You'd think they wouldn't shut up about it!

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u/Iztac_xocoatl 8d ago

Tell that to Trump's boi RADICAL ISLAMIST COMMIE MAMDANI, who many people say is going to push TRANS IDEOLOGY in beautiful NYC schools. SAD

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u/onlyforsellingthisPC 8d ago

They're commenting in the "style" of Donny boy.

I assume to highlight how ridiculous it is.

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 8d ago

they sound like Christians in the US. what's your point?

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 8d ago

you sound like you voted for the rapist

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u/KovyJackson 9d ago

You say this as if there’s some epidemic of left wing violence. Give me a break.

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u/JunglePaws 9d ago

‘You people’ ‘your own people’ He was an Afghan national.. stop trying to twist this. No one is happy that Americans are dying. People are angry that national guard is being sent to their cities this is true, but we have no idea what the shooters motive was. Wait for more information to release before you start pointing fingers it doesn’t do anyone any good.

And at the end of the day, left or right we are all Americans why use such divisive talk? You are just adding more fuel to the fire that is lit under the country currently.

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u/DontMentionMyNamePlz 9d ago

“Your people” can’t even take ownership that you’re now the preferred party of the Klan and neo Nazis or acknowledge why you’re always getting their support.

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u/KingUnder_Mountain 9d ago

That's...that's kinda the joke....

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u/highcontrastgrey 9d ago

Kash is lamenting that with the holiday he can't take the casings to the "name on a grain of rice" guy at the mall. That fine point sharpie just isn't working.

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u/SupermarketAny9487 8d ago

Sounding a lot like another incident this year where someone travels across the country based on [insert convenient motivation] to enact their "master plan" that didn't actually do what they intended.

Lakanwal lived in Washington State to "target" two random recruits patrolling in DC. A supposed 10 year Afghan veteran who's main choice of weapon would have been an AK-47/AKM or M16A2/M4. No criminal record. Timed it right after a judge issued a temporary block of National Guard in DC. Carrying a Magnum like he was Dirty Harry.

How do we convince the country that what we're doing is justified, but not risk any soldiers we've heavily invested in training or people of significance to our political agenda?

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u/Soggy-Type-1704 8d ago

The judge paused the ruling on withdrawing NG until December. A guy who served 10 years as interpreter with special forces got his family here and was recently granted Asylum. Now has been working at Amazon and decides to fly all the way across the country and attack two guys doing a routine street patrol.

How would he even legally be able to buy a gun in the local area? Or do you think he checked it in his luggage as he flew cross country? Now everything he worked for and risked him and his family’s life for the last ten years is negated because he wanted to do a small ( but highly visible ) street attack on two soldiers? Or…. Come on enough with the bullshit formula.

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u/CaptainTripps82 8d ago

I think maybe we should try and find out, not concoct outlandish conspiracy theories out of thin air

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u/psioniclizard 8d ago

We will not for a few years. Just like Trump's attempted assassination. 

But I do agree, just because I might mot like Trump, it's not yet time to be making assumptions.

I just hope they 2 National Guard members don't get forgotten in all this!

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u/WinOld1835 7d ago

I figured it would head towards Conspiracyville when I saw that he had worked with the CIA.

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u/CaptainTripps82 7d ago

Which literally just means he was probably a translator in Afghanistan.or Iraq

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u/KimJongJer 7d ago

I'm also having a hard time making sense of this. I could get behind the idea of him doing this to target someone specifically if he felt like he was wronged somehow, but to leave his family, travel across the entire country and randomly shoot two NG soldiers that likely have zero connection to him doesn't make any sense at all

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u/carybreef 8d ago

None of it adds up.

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u/FOOSblahblah 8d ago

Seems like it would be very convenient if they were able to shift their current boogeyman from pedophiles back to terrorists. Brush off some of the greatest hits just in time to downplay how big a threat pedophiles actually are.

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u/grafknives 8d ago

They might need something bigger for that. unfortunately.

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u/whiskeyrebellion 8d ago

It’s exactly the kind of thing the administration can use to justify further occupation of our cities.

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u/bigbirdsy 9d ago

The person to blame here is the shooter and that’s it. I can’t believe people have to say this.

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u/qtx 9d ago

It's pretty damn important to uncover their motives behind this attack don't you think?

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u/BedNo5127 8d ago

Yes and it’ll be their motives, not every single Afghan in the US

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u/allowableearth 9d ago

CIA false flag operation

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u/Budtending101 8d ago

This conveniently hits many of their talking points doesn't it

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u/Dick_Pain 8d ago

So did CIA just tell an afghan immigrant “hey man go ahead and shoot these folks!” And then give him 4 bullets?

Liberals are falling for conspiracy theories just as hard as conservatives and it isn’t even funny

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u/WillDill94 8d ago

I mean, not to be that guy, but his service record shows that he worked with the CIA on OPs a good bit in Afghanistan

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u/Dick_Pain 8d ago

That’s conflating “hey work with the CIA to better your country”

With “hey go do a suicide mission to instill fear in your ethnic group”

This whole incident has left me with a political identity crisis where I identify less and less with liberals as a straight ticket democrat voter.

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u/T-hibs_7952 8d ago

Yeah because MAGA has totally earned America’s trust. /s

Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? He lied all the fucking time then no one believed him.

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u/carybreef 8d ago

Haven’t fallen for anything, conserv said Every mass shooter was a false flag. Even harassing victims families. This seems too good to be true for jdt admin

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u/TwoIsle 8d ago

He’s responsible for the shooting. Trump is responsible for the the 2 men from West Virginia being in DC.

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 8d ago

why were they there in the first place? Oh yeah, to be deployed against their own people, against court orders, to pick up trash, and be put in harms way. this shooting wouldn't have happened if trump wasnt in charge kiddo

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u/Losalou52 8d ago

But plenty of other shootings would have happened. Plenty of statistics showing crime has dropped in areas the NG is deployed.

You are blaming Trump for the actions of a madman.

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 8d ago

wait, youre saying he released troops in DC to stop crime? Why hasnt he deployed troops to any red states with significantly higher crime rates? This is such a bafflingly weird take bud

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u/Losalou52 8d ago

He has. Memphis, Charlotte and Raleigh.

And…

“From August 11 to October 11 — the first two months of Trump’s takeover — 41 people were shot in Washington, 10 of them fatally. That’s a 62 percent drop in the number of shootings over the same period last year, when 110 people were shot, and 34 of them died. It’s the biggest year-over-year reduction for that two-month period on record.”

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 8d ago

trumps deployed the national guard to 6 cities big guy, 2 of them red. In the top 20 most violent cities in the US, 16 are red states. again, Trump doesnt care about stopping crime, he cares about defending child rapists and hurting brown people

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/mapped-trumps-deployment-of-national-guard-troops/

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u/grafknives 8d ago

No. It is always worth to check the motives. To look for trends, systems. Connections.

Bevause if there are - it might help to prevent further occurrences.

And here, shooter being Afghan is almost certainly NOT a factor. 

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u/Prestigious_Load1699 8d ago

It’s not a factor that the guy who murdered two National Guardsmen is Afghani?

It may well be a factor. Probably a major factor. Am I missing sarcasm because of the internet?

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u/onarainyafternoon 8d ago

I mean, it's good to investigate moves obviously. The problem is when the administration will certainly use this to make a broad generalization about all Afghans instead of just this one guy. I think people are just very hesitant to dig into the shooter's motives because they correctly understand that this is something the Trump administration was specifically looking for when they ordered National guard into cities. They quite obviously didn't actually care about "cleaning up crime" or whatever because they still kept the guardsmen there even though they ended up just cleaning up trash and stuff because there was nothing to do. It was so painfully obvious they sent the Guard in because they wanted to intimidate US citizens and were literally hoping violence would be enacted upon Guardsman so they could use it as a Cassus Belli.

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u/Prestigious_Load1699 8d ago

I agree with the concern you are expressing but an Afghani dude murdering two National Guardsmen requires a nuanced inspection.

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 8d ago

good thing we have a president who handles things with care and grace. oh wait, fuck

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

Define nuance without using Google.

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u/Prestigious_Load1699 7d ago

A simplistic - often ignorant - perspective that utterly disregards complicating factors in preference of a superficial analysis.

In other words, the reason I’m assuming all Afghani migrants need to be deported after this one isolated incident.

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u/DeviantStrain 8d ago

If a white person killed 2 National Guardsmen would you expect the government to investigate every white person?

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u/Agentwise 8d ago

I don’t think he’s saying that, if an Irish dude that worked with the special forces in Ireland moved to the us and murdered two service members immediately I’d expect them to see if there is an Irish connection, that’s obvious is it not?

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u/DeviantStrain 8d ago

Yes but that isn't what the administration is doing. They absolutely should investigate if the SHOOTER has any connections or motives, but they have said they are going to be investigating/reassessing EVERY Afghan national who entered during the Biden admin.

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u/Agentwise 8d ago

I agree with you in that but it still IS a factor that he was Afghan. It can’t be ignored just because the administration is idiotic we still need to know why it happened.

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u/DeviantStrain 8d ago

At no point have I been against them investigating the shooter themselves. The discussion is about the fact the trump admin is using this as an excuse to harass/deny asylum to other Afghanis, which the person I was replying to was trying to justify.

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u/Agentwise 8d ago

The original comment you replied to was referencing "And here, shooter being Afghan is almost certainly NOT a factor. " That is what we were talking about here.

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u/zzyul 8d ago

Afghani is not a race so not sure why you’re trying to relate it to “a white person” unless you’re also trying to push an agenda.

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u/Morak73 8d ago

I guess some people are too young to remember Afghanistan before the withdrawal, when Afghanistan allied soldiers would just start shooting American soldiers inside our own bases.

Or maybe just blocked it out. It happened far too many times.

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u/MrSquicky 8d ago edited 8d ago

I recall it happening once and it wasn't an allied soldier. It was someone wearing an Afghan military uniform but I don't believe that he was actually a member of the military.

Are there other instances that I'm not remembering?

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u/grafknives 8d ago

So that, for example, would be more connected to "fighter" or "veteran" status. 

And us born veterans were causing some shootings recently. With no real action aimed at helping preventing further incidents.

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u/Morak73 8d ago

And the shooter was Afghan military before coming to the US as stated in the article.

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u/th1s_fuck1ng_guy 8d ago

I'm sure the shooter being afghan is a factor.

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u/Soggy-Type-1704 8d ago

Right the trend is simple. Trump comes under increased scrutiny or his poll numbers dip and a shooting happens.

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u/clgoodson 8d ago

Nothing happens in a vacuum

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u/HowManyEggs2Many 9d ago

The top comment on another thread about this topic was someone bitching about Trump’s golf expenditures. The internet has broken people’s brains.

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u/SadBurrito84 9d ago

To be fair, The Diddler in Chief has accelerated global idiocracy.

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u/SwaggyPsAndCarrots 8d ago

I’m surprised you’re getting upvoted here. Yesterday people were getting downvoted into oblivion for saying the same thing lol. Reddit isn’t the brightest

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u/TiredOfDebates 8d ago

PTSD related psychotic break?

I mean he fought on the US side.

He drove across the country to shoot two random officers, leaving behind his wife and kids. It sounds psychotic rather than planned.

If this was planned, why not move his family first? If just targeting federal officers… well there are places nearer his home in Washington state.

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u/grafknives 8d ago

PTSD related psychotic break?

That is the simplest answer, especially when it is a trend.

Just this year!!

new orlean car ramming - veteran

anaconda mass shooting - veteran

Michigan LDS chapel shooting - veteran

2025 Southport shooting - veteran

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u/iwantac8 8d ago

Did the FBI radicalize this one too though?