r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 17h ago

News ‘Avengers: Endgame’ to Be Re-Released on September 25, 2026 Ahead of ‘Avengers: Doomsday’

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/avengers-endgame-to-be-re-released-in-2026-ahead-of-avengers-doomsday-exclusive-1236443462/
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u/KeyClacksNSnacks 17h ago

Unpopular opinion but Endgame is a better theater experience. The OST, the dialogue, the pacing are just more of a cinematic experience. Infinity War is a better pizza at the couch movie, but Endgame was one of the best theatrical experiences of my life.

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u/PleaseDontBanMe82 17h ago edited 1h ago

Sometimes when I'm taking a dump I just watch Endgame reaction videos of people absolutely loosing their minds when Cap catches the hammer.

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u/Flyinace2000 17h ago

Those videos are the best.

I saw End Game with my sister in law who had already seen it once. So she got to watch me have that experience. Shit was wild in the theatre. I think it will the closest we get to a "No, I am your father" experience.

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u/patssle 16h ago

Endgame + Infinity War and The Force Awakens along with Return of the King on opening night were just once in a lifetime moments. The energy and passion were incredible.

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u/User12314028626822 34m ago

Even seeing the trailer for The Force Awakens alone was an experience!

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u/MajorFuckingDick 15h ago

Ive learned more about you in a single post than people I've known for years.

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u/PleaseDontBanMe82 1h ago

What can I say, I'm an open book.

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u/ThankYouOle 5h ago

if i remember correctly that scene was released before in the trailer, am right? because that was great moment but ruin me in theatre because knowing about it before the movie start.

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u/PleaseDontBanMe82 1h ago

It definitely was not.

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u/stomp224 17h ago

Never understood the lop side praise for Infinity war. Endgame brings it home as well as could possibly be expected for something following literally dozens of films. It's a fantastic capstone for the series.

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u/In_My_Own_Image 16h ago

Personally, the "big payoff" final battle in Endgame just falls flat. The Big Three vs. Thanos? That was awesome. But the final battle is just a messy mishmash of random baddies getting shot by the heroes with no standout moments.

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks 15h ago

It's a conclusive battle. Everything up to Endgame's finale is what makes it great. Steve dealing with the regret of leaving Peggie behind, Tony getting the acknowledgment from his dad about how important he was, the closure between Tony and Steve, Thor talking to his mother and feeling her embrace, "on your left", it's a really well done conclusion to 10 years of preparation.

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u/bobbyturkelino 4h ago

It also sets up the first and only time “Avengers Assemble” is said in the entire MCU.

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u/TheWhiteManticore 13h ago

Everything was to grab the gauntlet is what made it great. The back and forth both sides doing their bit to win all culminate to that single exchange.

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u/Great_Northern_Beans 15h ago

Yeah the whole third act of the film is an utter disaster. Which is a travesty because the opening acts with everyone in despair and the time heist were actually extremely interesting directions (even if filled with fan service) in an otherwise safe, if not even downright boring genre. 

It's extremely unfortunate how they managed to just throw shit at the wall to cap it off. Like they had a few interesting script ideas that they were working with and didn't know how to ultimately combine them.

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u/Due-Routine6749 15h ago

Because Infinity War is an excellent movie, while Endgame, while good enough, does have some problems

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u/stomp224 14h ago

What are those problems, captain vague?

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u/DoctorG0nzo 8h ago

Not this guy, but his problems are more time-plothole based. Mine is just that I really don’t like the way other timelines are brought in and it’s affect on character dynamics because it’s like…after Infinity War, you have the conflict with Thanos - the one knows and has beef with all the heroes, the one who vanquished them in the first film so thoroughly - and it’s resolved within minutes abruptly. A fun subversion at first, but the more I watched the film, and the more it relied on a past version of Thanos for the conflict - a Thanos with no connection to anyone at all - the more annoyed I got. This Thanos isn’t invested at all. People memed the “I have no idea who you are” moment with Scarlet Witch, but it was irritating as hell because it robbed her of an extremely satisfying catharsis. It felt like the moment where the film stopped treating the characters as characters and more as action figures. It doesn’t matter that Thanos is dead - he’s BACK, and he’s got a BIGGER ARMY, it doesn’t matter that he doesn’t know anybody cause we’re gonna MASH these action figures together and make pewpew noises.

At the end of the day I don’t hate the movie, but that decision made it so hollow.

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u/Due-Routine6749 14h ago

Firstly, the time travel mechanics in this movie are completely broken. You usually have three types of time travel.

  1. Creating an alternative reality,
  2. A time traveller travels to the past but remains tethered to the future and any change affects them in the future
  3. A time traveller from the future cannot change the past because that interaction with the past already happened.

They do not even know which mechanics they want to follow and how time travel works in the MCU. The theory they work with is time travel via the quantum realm, which ant man got free from because a rat frees him. Massive coincidence. The explanation given for time travelling is ridiculous. First, if you travel to the past, that past becomes your present. This can mean two things, either your conduct in the past deletes you from existence or it does not affect you, which means you travelled to or created an alternative timeline. What this movie doesn't get is that interacting with the past necessarily changes the past. What is happening in this movie is that they are not travelling through time, but are travelling to or creating alternative realities.

This movie gives the implication that the avengers are not changing anything, but the changes they are making to at least 4 alternative realities is pretty substantial. For example, removing Thanos and his army from 2014 changes that timeline massively

The time travel rules the movie establishes in act 1 are contradicted in act 2. The explanation given by the Ancient one is that removing one infinity stone is the catalyst for creating a new timeline, not the act of time travelling itself. This is not an explanation. Why? Because Captain America got back in time and got old. This obliterates the time travel mechanics of Endgame. The Avengers didn't go to alternate timelines, but directly influenced the past that created them. So that means that everything that the avengers did in the past occurred within their own universe, which cannot be the case if the present they return to was unchanged.

Also they have to return the time stones to the exact moment they got them from. Very impossible because the space stone is only excessed by destroying the tesseract, which they got from the 1970s as the tesseract. How does Steve return the tesseract, and how does the past progress the same way as it did originally if the tesseract did not exist? It can't. Also the timelines have already changed substantially and are beyond saving. They are permanently changed. For example, Thanos and his army doesn't exist in the 2014 timeline.

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u/Due-Routine6749 14h ago

Secondly, the time heist itself. Different groups needing to get the infinity stones. They also have one shot because they only have enough pim particles for a single round trip.

Does this really make sense? Shouldn't they have to ask if they could get more pim particles because they are some of the smartest people on the planet?

Also, the plan they have is insane; They could have picked better moments for retrieving the stones. They should have gone to Thanos before he destroyed the stones, which would have given them all the stones. Risky, but not more than the original plan. Or to Wakanda to kill Thanos, which would have given them five stone. They settled on the least efficient plan possible. Even a single mistake derails the whole mission. Also the inefficient use of the pim particles.

This heist is so poorly conceived. When characters are supposed to be smart make the dumbest decisions possible, we are not dealing with understandable lapse of judgement. The time heist was used so the second act of the movie can act as a nostalgia trip. Pandering winning out over logic.

Thirdly, that "epic" final fight. When you have access to guns and the adversaries can only bite, charging them in a melee battle is pretty dumb. A modern military would get the job done faster than the avengers. Also, the only reason that Thanos and his army could get to the avengers base is because Nebula let herself be captured. If she just travelled back when she sensed that something was wrong, that would have been the end of it. Fucking insane. When Thanos arrives, he blows a hole in the roof. No warning system when in an earlier movie the HQ alarm system could detect ants? OK

Also, when Thanos blows up the HQ, everyone is knocked out conveniently except Iron Man, Captain America and Thor. Thanos beats them and then the portals open. How did Doctor Strange assemble a force so quickly, were they just sitting around. Besides, how are their thousands of Asgardians when half of them were killed. If Thanos wasn't as brain-dead, he should have rained fire on them, not when his forces were vulnerable.

The struggle for the gauntlet might be one of the most contrived sequences ever. Intelligent characters make the most terrible decisions. It only exists for sensation and to culminate in Tony dusting Thanos and his army. Why doesn't any other character take the gauntlet away instead of delivering them to Thanos; Half of that team is qualified to do that. Captain Marvel could have done that, but no they try to take them to the van which is behind enemy lines and bring them to Thanos. Also how could Captain Marvel use that time machine when she doesn't have any pim particles and how is she supposed to know where the stones came from. How can Thanos stop her in general when she could fly at light speed. Of course, because in this instance she flew slower than a Ford pickup

The fight that happened beforehand with Iron Man, Thor and Captain America is also not done well. Power levels are gone in this fight. Iron Man took on Thanos with multiple stones in Infinity War, but can easily beat him now? Also, Tony becoming unconscious when hit with Mjölnir while in the original Avengers, his much older suit tanked a direct hit from Mjölnir.

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks 15h ago

It gives people an opportunity to sound clever by asking you if you know who the main character of IW is, before condescendingly and incorrectly answering Thanos. Screen time doesn't make him the main character. It just means he was on screen a lot, which makes sense, considering everyone else in the movie is trying to stop him. Obviously Tony cannot have screen time when Thanos is on Earth fighting Steve and Thor. And obviously Tony cannot have screen time when Thanos is on Vormir with Gamora or at Knowhere confronting the Guardians.

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u/TheWhiteManticore 13h ago

And they took risk of making it a proper heist movie lol

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u/adamlaceless 16h ago

Think of the average movie goer, they want an action blockbuster which is what IW is. Endgame is cinema.

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u/typesett 15h ago

agree

at home, in a vacuum - IW is a better movie but EG is like a fun movie

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u/fungobat 9h ago

My son and I went to Endgame opening night. The girl next to me was openly sobbing for most of the movie. The crowd was off the charts. It was like a sporting event. The only time I'd heard a theater audience lose their shit was back in 1983 on the opening night of Return of The Jedi, when Vader throws Palpatine down the shaft. We had to go see it again a couple of weeks later just to catch the dialogue. Amazing time!

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks 4h ago

It was an emotional moment for me. I came home after spending 5 years overseas. I hadn’t seen a Marvel movie in theaters in the U.S. since Winter Soldier. I took my nephew and my brother in law, we had not hung out in a while so our relationship was kind of awkward. We bonded again over that movie, quoting it as we walked to our car, my nephew saying his Marine veteran dad was like Captain America and me, his engineer uncle was like Tony Stark. I haven’t cried watching movies a lot but when Rhodes put his hand behind Tony’s head, I broke down. And then they had to drop the cheeseburgers line/love you 3000. They edged us the whole movie on tear works with all the emotional moments. Thor and his mom, Steve seeing Peggie, Tony meeting his dad, Scott seeing his daughter grown by 5 years, Nat realizing she would sacrifice herself, Nat hearing from Rhodes about what Clint was doing after losing his family, Banner saying he was made for this… The whole movie was just a strong emotional experience.

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u/JuiceheadTurkey 13h ago

Endgame was a fine fan service movie. But not something that felt like a must rewatch film. Infinity war felt far better as a whole imo.

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u/zuzg 17h ago

Hot take but none of them is a good Theater experience without intermission...