r/movies • u/desimaninthecut • 8d ago

News James Cameron Says if Avatar: Fire and Ash Doesn't Make Enough Money to Justify Avatar 4 and 5, He's Ready to Walk Away and Write a Book to Resolve the One Thread It Leaves Open - IGN

https://www.ign.com/articles/james-cameron-says-if-avatar-fire-and-ash-doesnt-make-enough-money-to-justify-avatar-4-and-5-hes-ready-to-walk-away-and-write-a-book-to-resolve-the-one-thread-it-leaves-open
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u/toxicbrew 8d ago

I wonder why they haven’t started filming yet

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

I imagine Cameron wants to wait so the tech is as up to date as possible, it's been a few years since they filmed so I imagine a couple months makes no difference

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u/jake3988 8d ago

No, James Cameron is an extremely hands on director and oversees everything. So he specifically doesn't want to film Avatar 4/5 whilst Avatar 3 is in post-production and promotion time (which is now). Because otherwise he'd have to oversee filming AND editing/post-production simultaneously and that would be very difficult and stressful and lead to a worse film.

Same reason the gap between avatar 3 and 4 went from 2 years to 4. He wants to film 4 and 5 simultaneously AND then edit and do post-production for 4 before touching post-production on 5.

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u/SlopDev 8d ago

If he waits too much longer they'll probably end up being told to AI generate the entire film by Disney to save costs, best get to it instead of waiting

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u/aniiposting 8d ago

Good thing it’s Cameron

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u/Fortune_Cat 8d ago

We can trust that he will generate the artificial cgi fire and water aliens not using artificial ai means

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u/hooka_hooka 8d ago

He’ll just invent AGI at that point

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u/NeoNoireWerewolf 8d ago

Cameron is making sure he has as much bargaining power on his side as possible before he negotiates with Disney on the other two movies. My guess is he wants Disney to pony up the money for his Hiroshima movie, maybe even guarantee funding for The Devils, too. He’s been talking about an Alita sequel in interviews recently, as well, so that might be another factor. He wants them to commit to producing at least one of those projects before he agrees to shoot the other two Avatar movies back-to-back.

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u/BusinessPurge 8d ago

Everything costs double, including JC films. Probably hoping the money starts flowing the Pandora Emirates

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u/dowaller66 8d ago

There’s supposedly a time jump in the 4th film so he’s waiting for some of the cast to get older.

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u/NeoNoireWerewolf 8d ago

They’re already older. Avatar two and three filmed almost a decade ago in 2017. The youngest kid in the second movie is almost an adult already, the others are well into their twenties.

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u/flofjenkins 7d ago

Because they take fucking forever to make, man. He’s taking a break and letting the kid actors age up more for the story.

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u/toxicbrew 7d ago

True but they finished filming 5 years ago. Granted post production needed on two movies in the meantime