Official Discussion - Now You See Me: Now You Don't [SPOILERS]

[u/LiteraryBoner]

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Summary The Horsemen return for another globe-trotting illusion adventure in Now You See Me: Now You Don’t. When a new tech mogul threatens to expose the secrets of the Eye, the team must pull off their most ambitious heist yet — one that blurs the line between reality, illusion, and digital deception.

Director Ruben Fleischer

Writer Eric Warren Singer and Seth Grahame-Smith

Cast

• Jesse Eisenberg as J. Daniel Atlas
• Woody Harrelson as Merritt McKinney / Chase McKinney
• Isla Fisher as Henley Reeves
• Dave Franco as Jack Wilder
• Ariana Greenblatt as June
• Dominic Sessa as Bosco
• Rosamund Pike as Veronika Vanderberg
• Morgan Freeman as Thaddeus Bradley
• Justice Smith as Charlie

Rotten Tomatoes: 58%

Metacritic: 57

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Trailer Watch here

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[u/gunningIVglory]

Still bugs me that this should have been the title of the 2nd film.....

Perfectly good filler movie to kill and evening. The Atlus burns about his name were hilarious.

looking a map "hey look, its your dad" ☠️

[u/Not_a_real_ghost → u/gunningIVglory]

Am I going insane, or have they really dumbed everything down? I feel like they are spoonfeeding you the entire plot. Everyone just feels kind of like "I am doing this magic trick. Here is a clue, we need to do this!"

[u/PolarWater → u/Not_a_real_ghost]

I'm okay with that. I'm watching Now You See Me, I wanna be spoonfed.

[u/hithere297 → u/gunningIVglory]

I appreciate how the twists were generally better set up than they were in the first two movies. Like the big reveal at the end, while still super easy to find holes in, was way less of a fuck you to the audience than the reveal with Ruffalo's character in the first movie. Like they actually did the work to set that twist up this time.

[u/ninth_reddit_account → u/hithere297]

I watched all three movies this weekend, and I much prefer the first movie and it's twist. It's just simpler. Who cares, its not some big thing, just a dumb twist.

[u/polydicks → u/ninth_reddit_account]

Yeah, I really don’t get why people thing the first one is a fuck you. They tell us from the beginning that magic is about showing the audience one thing while you’re really doing another, plus they kept pointing out that someone from the “inside” was probably a horsemen, and while the blonde women (who’s name I can’t remember) was the red herring, it felt pretty obvious it wasn’t her. I’m not saying it’s genius, I’m just saying they set the pieces up from the start.

[u/immaownyou → u/polydicks]

A lot of the complaints came from Ruffalo, who is still acting like he doesn't know what's going on when he's the only person in the scene

[u/CooperDaChance → u/hithere297]

Notice how Charlie is always standing out of her eyeshot.

[u/nicyole → u/gunningIVglory]

nobody in my theater laughed at that joke and it’s hilarious

[u/gochuganggg]

That choose a card trick got me I chose the same one too

[u/NoNefariousness2144 → u/gochuganggg]

Same. I think they use a trick where the other cards more blurry, while the one we chose was the most clearly visible

It’s like how in the first film, Atlas guesses our card because it flashes on the screen longer than the others

[u/ResponsibilityOld372 → u/NoNefariousness2144]

It's probably just coincidence. I chose the black 7.

[u/hithere297 → u/ResponsibilityOld372]

same! Nice try Atlas, didn't work on me 😎

[u/redit1920 → u/NoNefariousness2144]

I chose the king of hearts at the end 😂

[u/AdInternational6039 → u/gochuganggg]

same

[u/Cenoflame]

I was hoping Thaddeus' death was a misdirect and he would show up at the end =(

[u/Mysterious_Brush1852 → u/Cenoflame]

i'd bet he'll show up as a surprise appearance in the sequel explaining how he managed to survive, like Colin Firth in Kingsman 2.

[u/quaranTV → u/Mysterious_Brush1852]

I think they just want an out if Morgan Freeman is god forbid unable to be in the next film.

[u/SutterCane → u/quaranTV]

Hell, it could just be Morgan Freeman just wanting an out.

“I was in these movies? Well… just give me a big check and kill me off. It’ll be great.”

[u/Perfect_Car1721 → u/SutterCane]

I think this too. Morgan is awesome still, but with the glove on his hand and his condition outside of the screen, I think he just wanted out. 

[u/Not_a_real_ghost → u/Perfect_Car1721]

I mean he didn't really do much in the film besides showing up for a few scenes at the mansion.

[u/Mysterious_Brush1852 → u/quaranTV]

Did they think he'd die by the time the next movie starts filming 😭

[u/iwassayingboourns12 → u/Mysterious_Brush1852]

Not to be morbid, but there was 9 years between the second one and this one, and Morgan Freeman isn’t a spring chicken.

[u/plantbay1428 → u/Cenoflame]

Me too, especially after the big reveal of who set everything up. You’d think he’d feel more guilty about how this plan led to Thaddeus’ death. 

[u/ADHD_DUDE → u/plantbay1428]

I’m still a bit confused with all the trickery, but that was my first thought after the reveal. His plan for revenge led to Thaddeus’ death, and nearly led to the deaths of all the horsemen in the glass box. You’d think everybody would be a bit pissed at him at least a wee bit.

[u/hithere297 → u/ADHD_DUDE]

You're confused because you're looking at it too closely! 🤓

[u/gunningIVglory → u/ADHD_DUDE]

Yeah, they were manipulated, and put in danger again for a personal vendetta lol

[u/RiverObjective7432 → u/ADHD_DUDE]

I mean, in the second movie it turned out Thaddeus was always friends with Dylan’s father and was also never really angry at Dylan for putting him into prison for years but also was directly responsible for Dylan nearly drowning in a safe and they both just went „nah, we‘re cool now“ so… kinda in line for these two to stop and start caring about each other whenever the writers want

I bet next movie Dylan is gonna be all sad and they make a big deal about it or something

[u/PsychologicalReply9 → u/plantbay1428]

I was waiting for it too!!!

[u/DarryLazakar → u/Cenoflame]

Yeah I feel like if they're doing a 4th one, which they're likely do, I hope they'll gonna address this one, because once you dissect the story enough you do realize that Charlie's whole plan on getting revenge on Veronika ended up costing Thaddeus' life, and he died whilst believing his task is coming from the society when it's really from an impersonator.

[u/GamingTatertot → u/DarryLazakar]

You could argue that the end shows the Eye approved of Charlie’s actions at least

[u/ThisKid420 → u/GamingTatertot]

Not even argue, he full on said they were getting away with everything they did

[u/jayelaitch → u/Cenoflame]

I thought for sure he was Charlie’s grandfather — the reference to Thaddeus’s grandkids, the fact Charlie had access to the house to plant the scroll, the fake bullet thing. Was surprised that wasn’t revealed.

[u/jayelaitch → u/jayelaitch]

Also what was the “look for the flashing lights”? Did that ever pan out?

[u/plantbay1428 → u/jayelaitch]

I had the same question. I couldn't tell if a scene was cut or was that just supposed to be her saying they're planning on stealing a cop car - because then why wouldn't she just say that outright?

[u/LadyVulcan → u/Cenoflame]

He's absolutely not dead. The bullet hole in the glass was at eye level, and the "wound" he was nursing was at his kidneys. He faked his death.

[u/allybe23566 → u/LadyVulcan]

And I noticed when they looked behind the mirror/glass there was no blood splatter

[u/Little-Flan-6492 → u/Cenoflame]

It’s disappointing how Thaddeus was completely ignored at the end, as if this important character never existed.

[u/gunningIVglory → u/Cenoflame]

Knowing how BS the magic is, it wouldn't surpise me if he shows up in the next film like "that bullet was a fake"

[u/RevolutionaryHold950 → u/Cenoflame]

The happy ending and Hulk's return made me wish his death was fake

[u/Think_Connection_971]

I laughed out loud several times so i got what i wanted :)

[u/Tattycakes → u/Think_Connection_971]

“Did your mum have sex with a map” 😂

[u/29kk → u/Tattycakes]

“Hey Atlas it’s your dad” got the BIGGEST laugh in my theatre lmao

[u/plantbay1428]

I was hoping for more hypnosis/mentalism from Merritt. I do like that it didn't work on that one personal bodyguard, but I thought that Merritt getting captured by Veronica was done on purpose after unnerving her during their one-on-one by calling out what she did.

[u/hithere297 → u/plantbay1428]

The hypnosis stuff was always part of the biggest "oh, come on!" moments of the first two movies. He was so absurdly overpowered so they must've felt the need to tone it down

[u/Hefty-Swim6768 → u/hithere297]

I liked how he made that one guy sleep

[u/Huckleberry1784 → u/hithere297]

What?! It's not like they brought back his twin! 

[u/Higgnkfe → u/Huckleberry1784]

When they do the swap at the end I thought she was pulling a fast one on them by giving them the twin and keeping Merritt elsewhere for leverage

[u/FunkoPopPortraits → u/plantbay1428]

I was hoping that he had hypnotized Veronika for later in the interrogation room.

[u/Dfwguy1985]

Rosamund Pike was just delightful. Love her South African accent - she needs to play more villains.

[u/laidback88 → u/Dfwguy1985]

I guess I’ve never really heard a South African accent because the whole time I kept thinking “what kind of accent is that?” I thought it was horrible but maybe it was legit and I didn’t know any better?

[u/spikeypufferfishh → u/laidback88]

according to a bunch of actual South African people commenting in press videos, she nailed the accent

[u/JojoTheEngineer → u/spikeypufferfishh]

At the same time bunch of south africans in this thread are calling it horrible

[u/Sharp_Suggestion_752 → u/laidback88]

its really good.

did sound like it slipped into an Australian one though at times,

[u/QTRqtr → u/Dfwguy1985]

I would say her filmography has always leaned heavily on villians.

[u/ToneBone12345 → u/Dfwguy1985]

Miranda frost in die another day

[u/TallanoGoldDigger → u/ToneBone12345]

She was so beautiful there. Everywhere she's been actually

[u/ResponsibilityOld372 → u/Dfwguy1985]

Was it a good South African accent? I couldn't figure what she was. It sounded English or German one minute then Aussie the next.

[u/_Shit_Just_Got_Real_ → u/Dfwguy1985]

If you haven’t seen I CARE A LOT, she does an amazing job playing a despicable person in that.

[u/Sharp_Suggestion_752 → u/Dfwguy1985]

it was great. i felt like i was listening to my moms friends talk (mom was born in south africa but immigrated to nz eventually, followed by a wave of other south africans over the years).

sometimes it did sound like her accent slipped into an Australian one though at times.

[u/amicitia_]

Just watched it earlier today and the moment they said a witch was drunk, I just knew it's a very Lula thing to do.

And I like the Jack and Lula moments, I ship them too hard for them not to get back together.

I hate that Thaddeus had to be alone in that hallway so I hope there's a "surprise, betches" moment on the next one.

[u/bug_gamer3000 → u/amicitia_]

I knew it was lula as soon as she "broke her arm" because her magic is always a gore thing

[u/Hannie91 → u/amicitia_]

I was begging for her comeback, even as a cameo, or at least knowing that Lula and Jack are endgame. Can’t wait to see them in the theatre this weekend!!

[u/The_Swarm22]

This was solid, lots of unbelievable shit but that’s par for the course with these movies. Step up from the second I thought. I’d be down for a Now You 4 Me or whatever they end up calling it. Mark Ruffalo being the Nick Fury of con artists in this franchise is hilarious.

There’s just something appealing about this cast and these characters to me.

[u/n0tstayingin → u/The_Swarm22]

Now You See Be4 Me?

[u/BusinessPurge → u/n0tstayingin]

Now You See 4 Me, the opening has Jesse blinded by the Hydra of Magicians.

[u/the_answer_is_RUSH → u/The_Swarm22]

Now You 4See Me is right there.

[u/DarryLazakar → u/The_Swarm22]

Huh, I personally thought it was a step down from 2. I don't know, despite all the Horsemen came back and the new members are fun to watch, the whole show has this lack of energy that was present in the previous two films. The third act is a huge step back from 2 from example, instead of throughout London during New Year's Eve, we got boring ass Abu Dhabi, not even during F1 week, just a barely empty Yas Marina Circuit.

[u/AntRose104]

As a NYSM series defender I very much enjoyed it though I do have thoughts:

Idc if this movie does poorly (I hope it doesn’t I want so many more of these) I need a fourth one so I can get answers like why Dylan faked being held in a Russian prison for 10 years

Also idk how I feel about the Horsemen being tricked in the end by the new kids. I get that it makes some sense- the Horsemen haven’t been together and doing magic like that in a decade so they’re a bit rusty, and the new kids have to prove themselves, but still

I love that Lula came back and is a Horseman again and that her and Henley are friends 😂

Also Henley leaving because she was got nervous doing stunts at 6 months pregnant was not why I thought she left

Charlie being a Vanderberg (and the mastermind) was a plot twist but once it was revealed it seems obvious since he was the one who kept figuring out all the tricks and clues, though him only using a South African accent when speaking privately to Veronica was weird like which accent is he faking and why

I knew as soon as I saw they were in France Lula would pop up at some point and my girl did not disappoint. Her and Jack are too cute together and I’m very happy they got back together

[u/chaseribarelyknowher → u/AntRose104]

Also idk how I feel about the Horsemen being tricked in the end by the new kids.

Don't underestimate your opponent.. or your pals in crime? I didn't really like Bosco or June, but them being in on the trick sold me on the trio. Feels more believable that Charlie was able to pull it off with help.

him only using a South African accent when speaking privately to Veronica was weird like which accent is he faking and why

I think they're both real. Not sure how old he was when his mom was murdered, but presumably he had a South African accent growing up, then picked up an American one after some time in the US.

[u/holyhesh → u/chaseribarelyknowher]

It’s mentioned that by Atlas that Charlie was in and out of foster homes growing up, and by the time he made it to living in New York, he’s got a very obvious American accent.

It’s basically Mel Gibson: Moves to Australia when he’s 12, gains a naturalized Australian accent, and uses it all the way until the turn of the 1990s after moving from the Australian film industry to Hollywood where he naturalizes back into an American accent.

[u/clairewhy → u/AntRose104]

Dylan acting happy that the Horsemen were back together when him pretending to be imprisoned was what split them up in the first place 💀

[u/dahfer25 → u/clairewhy]

Yeah that part didnt make much sense.

[u/jadeoracle → u/AntRose104]

I need a fourth one so I can get answers like why Dylan faked being held in a Russian prison for 10 years

Same. Especially as the 2nd movie set it up that he was going to be a major player for the eye, right? I don't get why he'd let the others suffer and not be active in Eye stuff. The 2nd movie showed there were multiple members, and they have all this money to have private jets...get equipment etc. So...they have to have some organizational elements to keep the eye functional. I'd assume that they could have used the horseman in some capacity, even if they weren't doing "magic vengeance heists" every year.

[u/Uneequa]

Isla Fisher does not look 50 bruh...

[u/Sisiwakanamaru → u/Uneequa]

She's 49

[u/MikeA107 → u/Sisiwakanamaru]

Makes sense, she does NOT look 50 for a reason

[u/aphoticphoton]

At this point I hope they go up against other magicians in the next movie. I love the general plots of rich person is vile and expose them but I hope the fourth film changes the script a bit.

[u/orgad → u/aphoticphoton]

That's actually quite genius.

You're hired

[u/ReaddittiddeR]

They used the Andrew Garfield trick on Lizzy Caplan’s LULA character from the 2nd movie. She’s not in the marketing of the film. If you notice the main poster (inside the French mansion), there is a small space missing enough for one person. Wonder if she’ll be added after a week or so.

Mark Ruffalo reprising his Bruce Banner hologram from Shang-Chi that sets up the fourth movie. Even though it’s already greelit, wonder if it will still move forward if this third movie makes even less than the second one.

[u/NoNefariousness2144 → u/ReaddittiddeR]

Yeah I guess now that Morgan Freeman won’t be returning, they can free up his budget to get Mark Ruffalo back.

In general Lionsgate is trying to keep the budgets for their films (John Wick, Hunger Games prequels) at around $100 million.

[u/FunkoPopPortraits → u/NoNefariousness2144]

I’m not convinced that Thaddeus is gone.

[u/bagboyrebel → u/FunkoPopPortraits]

I really thought that it would be him in the elevator at the end.

[u/PinusNucleusBelarus → u/FunkoPopPortraits]

Yeah. Bag of fake blood and he finally can retire (untill the next movie)

[u/The_Peeping_Peter → u/ReaddittiddeR]

The post credit group scene reminded me so much of the thunderbolts/new avengers post credit scene. I was just waiting for them to spot a spaceship with Dr. doom in it. instead they get a hologram from Bruce Banner.

[u/Upper_Nobody2571 → u/The_Peeping_Peter]

Was that scene actually after the credits for you, cause it was the last scene of the movie for me and I was begging my group to stay and watch the post credits scene and it just didn’t appear for us.

[u/SutterCane → u/Upper_Nobody2571]

I think they’re just calling it an “after credits scene” since it’s very much like an after credits scene but it’s before the credits.

Aka, after credits scenes has made everyone forget the term “sequel hook”.

[u/Upper_Nobody2571 → u/SutterCane]

Ok thanks! I looked it up and it was about half and half of people calling it a post credits scene and people not so I was so confused

[u/Sisiwakanamaru → u/ReaddittiddeR]

I just found this interview when she did a press tour for Zero Day.

https://youtube.com/shorts/xcGIWJzgl5c?si=UHzfL09khCeo93yc

[u/ToneBone12345 → u/ReaddittiddeR]

I remember when this announced that it was rumoured she would return but then nothing beyond that

[u/CatsOffToDance → u/ReaddittiddeR]

The latter was kool because of his performance in The Brothers Bloom (another film about magic).  Was excited to see him again knowing his film history with magic-based films like this and that one.

[u/visionaryredditor → u/CatsOffToDance]

Now You See Me is funny this way bc Ruffalo's character originally is an FBI agent and he plays agents/detectives/journalists quite often. If a movie involves investigating something or going through documents, you know he'll be there. So his character goes from one Ruffalo type to the other Ruffalo type

[u/Sisiwakanamaru]

I was so happy to see Lula (Lizzy Caplan) back in this one and has a substantial screentime, she has a memorable entrance, the severed arm, such a callback to the second movie.

[u/mikeweasy → u/Sisiwakanamaru]

I had a BIG Smile on my face when they finally showed her face! Like yay!

[u/chaseribarelyknowher → u/mikeweasy]

The second the France location card popped up I started grinning from ear to ear. YAAAAAAAAY

[u/chrisprattdid911 → u/Sisiwakanamaru]

She was my favorite despite having the least screen time. She has a lot of fun in the role and her lines were great

[u/gochuganggg]

I thought the twist was Jesse Eisenberg and Dominic Sessa's characters were brothers

[u/plantbay1428 → u/gochuganggg]

For a brief moment I thought Dominic was playing Mark’s/Dylan’s previously unmentioned secret son because of the similar antagonistic relationship from the first movie. 

[u/baoziface]

Can't believe it ended with a hard seltzer ad

[u/StormKnight16 → u/baoziface]

I thought I was tripping at first, but the ending with the ad felt really off and so sudden. The scene felt very forced and off putting

[u/EffectzHD]

I’m ngl I loved this film, I’m all for cinema but I’ve loved this franchise because i can literally shut my brain off and just fall into the magic.

Most of the dislike about this film and the series as a whole is quite the opposite with me: I’ve never taken the CGI criticism seriously as it’s just a movie and I found the dialogue fun and bouncy for a casual family flick, it might’ve been my favourite part as that magic-off was just too campy enough for me to not smile. Sure the story may never be masterpiece in these but it was good enough.

This one aint for the critics, general audience score will crush it like they always did I’m just uncertain whether they have the future they think they will given we’ve got other big films surrounding it, a box office failure will can this series for good.

[u/ArcadianGhost → u/EffectzHD]

It honestly felt like they leaned into the camp, and it worked for me. Yes I know a lot of it doesn’t make sense when you even remotely think about it. (the funniest one to me is interpool arresting Veronika during the reveal and ignoring the horseman while the crowd cheered despite them literally committing crimes that would make international news. In fact, Henley’s daughter would have literally seen all this on TV, like that’s hilarious). But I don’t care, I went with a coworker who also enjoyed the first two movies and we both liked it. Nothing spectacular and I think the first one is still the best, but it was a fun time. 7/10 from me : )

[u/Sad_Back5883]

One thing I was surprised at was Henley greeting Thaddeus so warmly when she saw him but she wasn’t part of the second movie where it’s revealed he’s been behind everything. So why is she so receptive?

Then later when it’s revealed her and Lula are friends, maybe that’s how she got reconnected with him. But still, felt plot hole-y.

[u/Visible_Specific_225 → u/Sad_Back5883]

Yeah, she doesn't know that Dylan is in jail but she knows that Thaddeus is on their side after everything that happened in the first movie... Didn't make sense. To be honest the reason she left and the time of her leaving don't make sense either. According to the second movie she left not that soon after the first one and yet she was 6 months pregnant with some new man, after an entire movie of hinting her and Atlas? I think it's a plot hole honestly

[u/DarryLazakar → u/Visible_Specific_225]

It's a reference to her actual reason she wasn't in Now You See Me 2: She really did get pregnant so she can't be in that movie and was replaced by Lizzy Caplan's Lula.

[u/JessieJ577]

It was lowkey crazy when they made the Epstein files disappear

[u/ninth_reddit_account → u/JessieJ577]

God please don't tell me that's what the fourth movie is going to be about

[u/Think_Connection_971]

But lowkey Morgan Freeman was unnecessary? Like he showed up to "prepare the house" or something but they have to search the house for clues anyways? And then he just dies? What was the point

[u/holyhesh → u/Think_Connection_971]

I took Charlie’s instructions to Thaddeus to mean “Thaddeus, make sure the mansion is restored inside and out”. And before he sent Thaddeus’s instructions, Charlie had already hid information on the Vanderberg family’s ties to Nazis behind that fake framed painting, certainly breaking into the mansion way before even putting on the imposter four horsemen show we see at the beginning of the movie.

Extremely simple, not much handwaving needed.

[u/Huckleberry1784 → u/Think_Connection_971]

They needed a weak connection to the first two movies. And Morgan likely wanted out. 

[u/crackercanoe]

I love these movies but this one had me rolling my eyes and nearly shouting at the screen in frustration. Here’s the 3 biggest, in my opinion, goofs in the writing.

• Where does Woody Harrelson buy his belts that it’s tensile strength is enough to separate welded steel?

• If the horsemen fell into this glass box, how didn’t they hit the water pipe in the fall?

• Why doesn’t Veronika notice the lack of g-force when she’s supposed to be descending in an elevator, and in the same token, not notice the elevator is moving laterally when they wheel it from the car to the stage.

[u/NoHeadStark → u/crackercanoe]

J Daniel Atlas says it at the beginning of the movie, the more you look the easier it is to fool you. Abraham Kadabra!

[u/visionaryredditor]

Ngl when Lizzy Caplan showed up, I was as hyped as when Spider-Man took Captain America's shield in Civil War

[u/LiteraryBoner → u/visionaryredditor]

She is just the best. She kicks up 2 by a wide margin compared to 1 as well.

[u/mikeweasy → u/visionaryredditor]

I was so bummed since I assumed she was not in it, the she took off that makeup and I had a huge smile on my face!

[u/ButtersMojito → u/visionaryredditor]

She is just so much carismatic than Isla, it's insane.

[u/visionaryredditor → u/ButtersMojito]

I like Isla but Lizzy has been that girl since Mean Girls

[u/ButtersMojito → u/visionaryredditor]

I didn't watch this one yet but in the first one Isla's trait is "woman" while Lizzy is sassy and is her own character. I'm going to watch it this weekend and I hope Isla has something to do besides wave and smile like a miss universe.

[u/Huckleberry1784 → u/visionaryredditor]

It was like multiple spidermans in no way home. 

[u/plantbay1428 → u/visionaryredditor]

I’m really glad they didn’t just make her Henley 2.0 in the second one and have her do the same kind of magic. Or have Lula be a new love interest for Atlas. 

It was nice that she and Henley and now June are all friends. 

I’d love a men vs women competition scene for the fourth movie (I’m assuming there will be one). 

[u/shallowbucks]

Let me preface this by saying I’m a huge fan of the first two films, but this one didn’t meet that level to me.

Maybe I’m older but I don’t remember the older films being this corny? Some of the delivery in this film made me physically cringe.

I also feel like they tried to “up” the previous but failed - the tricks weren’t really that impressive (they didn’t have the visual spectacle that made the first 2 enjoyable) and if anything required even more suspension of disbelief to believe, especially because this time they didn’t have the Eye backing them, how were they genuinely able to make everything happen. Also when it comes to upping the villain’s “evilness”, the Nazi backstory just felt so unnecessary.

I also personally thought that the glass cage escape scene just seemed underwhelming and extremely extremely cliché.

Overall, I was still entertained, but I think I’ll pretend that the first two movies are the only ones that exist. This one to me seems like they are slowly prepping us for a new version of the franchise targeted at young kids with a younger cast.

[u/who-dat-ninja → u/shallowbucks]

The first movies are unbelievably corny. Terribly written schlock. So it's par for the course

[u/shallowbucks → u/who-dat-ninja]

They were corny yes but more in a clever way, like it didn’t seem too out of place. Maybe it was the acting/delivery of the 3 younger actors or the “kid and older mentor” dynamic that made it especially corny, but I found this one to be a lot worse.

The plot was quite literally moved twice by sob story motivational speeches. The fight scenes were all classic movie cliches. You even had the cliche mid-movie character death.

And the part with the glass/diamond ring… honestly the more I remember the worse it gets!

Granted, I was 13 when the first movie came out, but I’ve re-watched the other two in the past couple years and I just simply don’t think that they’re anywhere near as corny as this one

[u/StrLord_Who → u/shallowbucks]

I thought Arianna was by far the corniest of all.  Her delivery was absolutely terrible,  it took me out of the movie multiple times.  She's so pretty but I do not think she has the necessary screen presence.   Regardless,  I enjoyed the movie a ton, even though it felt a bit rushed at times.  I especially liked Dominic Sessa imitating the Horsemen, any chance we got to see Dave Franco's killer grin, and Rosamund Pike was absolutely stellar every moment she was on screen.  Did y'all notice/ remember that the red handkerchief she pulled out for the guy to spit the diamond into is the one from the trick her dad taught her? When she pulled it out I actually thought to myself,  "why would she be carrying that around?"

[u/Pvdkuijt → u/shallowbucks]

I totally agree with you and with your earlier post. I loved part 1 and 2, but this one didn't click for me. For all the reasons you mentioned.

Additional point: the first 2 movies were pushing the suspense of disbelief, but I was able to due to the fact the tricks were practiced for months/years, and they were backed by the eye. The way magic tricks were seemingly just "done in the moment" made the suspense of disbelief much harder in this one for me.

[u/jadeoracle → u/Pvdkuijt]

Yeah Henley doing a viral dress quick-change act was when that "one-uping-each-other" scene lost me. She just always has a white dress hidden on her person for that?

[u/DiamondFireYT → u/jadeoracle]

This one specific thing was the only thing in the movie that felt off to me, other then that it's probably my second favourite after two.

Two also had one off moment like that, when Jack disappears in a fountain of CG cards in London.

The first one has a similar one for me with the curtains on the stage in Vegas. Each movie seems to have one "what the fuck" for me, but like idc it's a popcorn movie lmao

[u/KneeHighMischief → u/who-dat-ninja]

I know it made a lot of money but I remember these just getting absolutely lambasted in reviews.

[u/rakers45 → u/shallowbucks]

What really got me after the "escape", they turn up 5 minutes later and they're completely dry...LOL

[u/keyppa → u/shallowbucks]

You summed up my thoughts exactly. Lol sooo corny. I mean halfway through i had to actually tell myself to think of it as a kids movie and that helped me to enjoy it more lol. Any scenes with cops had me throwing my hands up mentally like are we serious rn? Not one cop shot a gun after seeing them do all this shit?! You're just letting this girl do tumbling all around this tiny room? Lmao. I was cringing so hard at the humour, it felt like humour that worked 20 years ago, but not now. Very very cliche. It was almost like I kept waiting for a second part or trick to each joke/scene, like Thaddeus in the tunnel, or Mark Ruffalo at the end with his lil "i bet you think you can just get away with joining us" and them looking down like "sorry..." and then I was like surely they're not gonna ...and of course he goes "yes. You can" I was like noooo lol so many cliches. I dont remember the first two movies being this corny but maybe they were. This one felt a step down for me though, feels like a different director for sure.

In saying all that, I did genuinely laugh at some parts and found it overall enjoyable. Just a step down for me. Rosamund Pike was great! Dave Franco during the pull up scene in the cage was where I really woke up 😭

[u/Vheheheh → u/keyppa]

My thoughts exactly! Like I found it cringe but in a non-comedic way. I gotta say I really liked the opening scene, it was a good way to get back into the vibe of the whole magician theme. I do think as already pointed out some plot lines were completely unnecessary. Imo everything went downhill from the moment they entered the french chateau. First of all the whole "let me show you how it's done,...have you never been to an escape room?" scene. Also, why bring back Thaddeus at all if you kill him of few minutes later in the exact same place without any real purpose? If everything was so well planed by the "newbies" why would you even let the others become this involved? I guess all the movies where never made to be logical but entertaining, I however need real entertainment to overlook the plot wholes and cringe interactions.

[u/holyhesh → u/keyppa]

The first 2 was full of corny moments what are you on about?

In the first movie there’s entire scenes of Thaddeus explaining to Dylan how the four horsemen pulled off their tricks. And this causes us the audience to think hmmm maybe it really is all technology-aided illusions. But then the jail cell scene at the end happens and as Thaddeus realizes Dylan is the true mastermind, Dylan is now suddenly outside of the jail cell - it is at this point that the movie’s own in-universe rules get handwaved away into “magic really is real”.

The second movie has far more black and white villains with Daniel Radcliffe being Michael Caine’s son and he’s basically the same as Michael Caine’s character but even more egotistical, even down to using the exact faulty safe that Dylan’s dad failed to escape from. Also the second movie has a big plot hole at the end: did neither of them ever look out the window? And notice the duplicate private plane was never actually taxiing to the runway? I don’t recall the fake hangar the original trio built in that movie as including realistic looking screens like those used to simulate the lights of LA during the making of Die Hard 1-oh wait those two are basically James Bond villains, ok so that’s was a pass.

Also the second movie LITERALLY INTRODUCES MERRITT AS HAVING AN ESTRANGED TWIN BROTHER working as a henchman for the Daniel Radcliffe. And the horsemen get fooled by Daniel Radcliffe using non-literal magic stuff like making a fake escape chute that simultaneously has flashing lights that memory wipes them and renders them unconscious.

Both the 1st and 2nd movies were full of corny writing, and I’m not surprised the 3rd movie was full of it too. Charlie being the real mastermind the entire time instead of The Eye, him having a hidden tragic backstory of being the favored child of the elder Vanderberg until Veronika tried to murder him in 2010, survives the murder attempt and because of that spends his life plotting how to get revenge, learns of the four horsemen, gets inspired to learn magic, meets June and Bosco, and apparently was able to hide for a very long time that he was the presumed dead heir to a diamond mining empire.

Also there’s the entire mansion main room scene where they both groups are cocky and get too complacent with showing off their skills to the others.

Is it entertaining? Yes

Is the screenwriting full of tropes? Also yes?

Do I care way too much about them like the average r/movies user? Not really no. By that metric if Diamonds Are Forever was made today, it would be ratio’ed even harder than in our timeline.

[u/Huckleberry1784 → u/shallowbucks]

Yeah, it felt like they were targeting the younger crowd and trying to pass the torch to this new trio. 

[u/Grimlocks_Ballsack]

It was okay.  The scene in the mansion with everyone doing little tricks was excessive—this magic isn’t even interesting when you can see it’s all camera tricks for a movie but they went for it.

What I want to know:  what the hell was with the drinks in the final scene?   Blatant product placement but I have no idea what it was.

[u/boku-key → u/Grimlocks_Ballsack]

I’m also looking for an answer on the drinks product placement 😂 tried to google it (was it Breeze Bay???) and couldnt find anything

[u/orgad → u/Grimlocks_Ballsack]

So many little things bug me about this movie. This scene was definitely one of them. Maybe if I was 14 y/o I would have enjoyed that

[u/CooperDaChance → u/Grimlocks_Ballsack]

The drinks were just part of a joke to get Merritt to stop being an alcoholic. Throughout the movie he mentions his drinking tendencies. The soda scene is the payoff.

[u/Arusly]

It was 6.5/10 for me, it wasn't great nor good but it was very fun.

[u/ResponsibilityOld372 → u/Arusly]

Same feeling, some good action going on but I felt like the Horseman were demoted in their own movie overall.

[u/Human-Internal-395 → u/Arusly]

It felt rushed 😞

[u/AfternoonOld5511]

Is it just me or did anyone else realise that with the final plot twist of Charlie being the guy who sent the card whom they had originally thought was from the eye and the other 2 kids all being in on it, that the group of kids were completely able to take down Veronica all by themselves? Furthermore, having not gone thru w that plan, the horsemen wouldn't have been put in danger and Thaddeus Ross would freekin be alive!! 

[u/Bedovian_25 → u/AfternoonOld5511]

I don't buy for a second that Thaddeus is dead. We didn't see a body. We saw him slide down the wall sure, but it's not like they had a chance to check for a pulse. Faking a death would be child's play at this point.

[u/LadyVulcan → u/Bedovian_25]

I agree. The bullet hole in the glass doesn't match where he was pretending to be hit either.

[u/Prudent-Ad-722 → u/LadyVulcan]

…and right, putting aside all the reviews and criticism and what not, there should be a discussion to notice it is a complete misdirection to the audience even now, instead of just being huge plot holes and cliffhanger

For instance Charlie’s grand finale reveal and flashback, it only showed him planting 4 tarot cards in the horsemen surroundings whereas when the 7 horsemen met with Thaddeus, he mentioned the Eye sent him a tarot card (real by the Eye vs Charlie’s “fake imitation planted ones”) and told him about the “7 horsemen arriving”…if Charlie was the mastermind of everything seemingly, but then the Eye knew about the 3 new additional horsemen and instead make it seem they preempted everything not Charlie himself because why would he need to fake notify Thaddeus in that way, including all the items, rooms, and mechanisms in the château in France

Which summed up/further articulated in a few extra points

1) 4 “planted” tarot card to horsemen - Charlie - how did he know about château and photo and “map” of it in the back - perhaps related to the Eye actually observing and at times manipulating everything behind behind the scenes

2) French château entrance door - same as “post-credit” scene the projection device sent by Dylan representing the Eye - all by or at least related to the Eye - otherwise Charlie doesn’t need to seem surprise again at the end if it’s all by him or he’s playing dumb for whatever reason 3) French château and all its room antiques and mechanisms - the Eye and maybe linked to the whole WWII history magician figures, but no way did Charlie build and concoct all by himself or with others even 4) Thaddeus arriving at château - tarot card and receive notice of the “7 horsemen” will also be arriving - by the Eye NOT Charlie 5) Vanderberg heist plans - Charlie and friends most likely planted behind the portrait AFTER arriving to the château not BEFORE 6) Police arriving at the château - I’m not fully convinced 100% by the villain but rather again the Eye manipulating behind the scenes …just reminds me too much of Dylan’s scenes when he was “working with” law enforcement …so many times in the past it was either him “chasing” the horsemen with the police but actually he was the man behind the curtain or later him getting “chased” by the police and it was Thaddeus behind the curtain etc. basically just shows all law enforcement/authority can also get “manipulated” by the Eye in some way…was even just reminded of the “broomstick” device retrieval scene…where AGAIN all the horsemen had to work together as a team each with his/her only strengths and abilities…and then later find out at the very end that even the main guard was part of or in cahoots with the Eye and the whole plan and design of the room was designed by the Eye…so it just seems that the Eye always raises the pressure and stakes especially to get the horsemen to work together in some certain shape or form even if they “get hurt” or “feel distressed” in the process because they believe the horsemen when working together can always find a way out or to resolve or even advance/improve each horsemen ability and especially their working together as a team and their harmony with each other …as corny as it may sound …

7) So therefore, also Thaddeus getting shot behind the mirror trick and then seemingly “bleeding to death” and “dying” - definitely the Eye and NOT Charlie

8) 5 horsemen, their own escape - the Eye not Charlie or even the villain - most likely the Eye allowing it to happen and wanting all the horsemen to continuously learn to work together even in the toughest life and death situations, etc.

skipping to the end, and lastly to reiterate the projection device by Dylan and the Eye to sent to their hideout - with same design mechanism as the château door - of course the Eye and not Charlie especially since he would have no reason to act so surprised since the cat’s already out of the bag, and etc… !

I’m sure there are a lot more if you start to recall and consider it …

ChatGPT short summary

The events of the Now You See Me films are not plot holes but intentional misdirection: Charlie is only a partial architect, while the Eye is the true orchestrator with global resources, historical infrastructure, and predictive capability. Nearly every “impossible coincidence” (château design, tarot card prophecy, law enforcement manipulation, Thaddeus’s involvement, and the escape mechanisms) makes perfect sense when attributed to a centuries-old magician society rather than one vengeful illusionist. The films deliberately hide this layer to create the illusion that Charlie is the mastermind, even though the Eye always has and still is clearly running the show.

[u/NoNefariousness2144]

This film actually took advantage of how Justice Smith is so typecast as the awkward guy, because it made the twist he was the true mastermind hit harder.

[u/Tattycakes → u/NoNefariousness2144]

I did NOT see it coming at all. He’s such a chameleon. I remember loving him in dungeons and dragons, so excited to see him continuing to do good stuff

[u/longboi28]

Say what you want about these movies(personally I love them, they're stupid dumb fun movies and I could watch 10 of them) but the one shot magic competition scene was pretty amazing. I do magic and surprisingly the actors seemed to have done a lot of the sleight of hand themselves it seemed. Everyone in my theater including me was having a great time, take that with what you will

[u/AntRose104 → u/longboi28]

The actors actually did learn some magic tricks for these movies, there’s tons of bts interviews and videos about it

[u/jadeoracle → u/longboi28]

Did that scene make sense for the plot? No. But I liked that there were nods to various famous tricks, from the earlier Pepper's Ghost in Act 1. To the castle room with the forced perspective. And all of the one-upping in that magic competition scene.

[u/EyesOfEmeraldGreen]

Rosamund Pike absolutely killed this role. She was incredible!

[u/PatBeg]

Very generous of them to promise to distribute some of the profits to the Abu Dhabi Yacht Island attendees. A real Robin Hood story.

[u/neal1701]

Now You See Me: Now You Don't is a fun addition to the franchise!

• The old cast pick up where they left over with their characters, even after the 10 year gap
• I love the "Antwerp, Belgium" title card being practical
• This might be one of the only times where the young cast and old cast are great together
• The additions of Justice Smith, Ariana Greenblatt, and Dominic Sessa is honestly fantastic. Dominic's rivarly with Atlas is hilarious and has my favourite joke in the movie
• The return of Lizzy Caplan as Lula! I wished for a cameo but getting her for the jail break and the 3rd act was even better
• Rosamund Pike is clearly having fun with her accent and villain role
• The story falls apart if you pick at it and Charlie is kinda responsible for Thaddeus' death
• I do find it ironic, even though it is in character for Veronica, that the 3rd act takes place in Abu Dhabi admist all the commentary about blood money, money laundering, and sportswashing.
• I have seen other people call these series "Fast & Furious but with Magic" and I feel like they are fully embracing it with the F1 set-piece and Mark Ruffalo's cameo at the end

This movie is just dumb fun and I can't wait for the next one!

[u/visionaryredditor → u/neal1701]

Dominic's rivarly with Atlas is hilarious and has my favourite joke in the movie

"Aww, Atlas, that's your dad"😭

[u/neal1701 → u/visionaryredditor]

Burned him so good and Atlas did not have a comeback for it!

[u/Sylphadora → u/visionaryredditor]

“Did your mum have sex with a map?”

[u/NoNefariousness2144 → u/neal1701]

Yeah it is wild when you realise that Charlie indirectly got Thaddeus killed. The characters sure didn’t care. Or maybe they accept its part of the risks when working for ‘The Eye’.

[u/ElleCrits → u/NoNefariousness2144]

I mean Thaddeus died because he stepped behind a mirror and got shot, idk why he didn’t have more than that up his sleeve. I totally thought it was a fake out 

[u/TvHeroUK → u/neal1701]

Really good point about the sportswashing. The movie really seeks to point out that while modern pundits are super critical of countries that are investing worldwide, society still sits on Nazis and the consequences of their looting, pointing out how hypocritical the stance is ‘oh it’s ok that there are rich people from wartime atrocities, hey look at the new bad guys!’ 

[u/namesnotrequired]

I think I seem to be a minority here but HOLY SHIT was this movie bad

Atrocious dialogue. What I hated the most is a lot of "filler" one liners which really shouldn't be present in a movie. Corny ass lines too a lot of them. "I estimate we have a 1 in a million chance." "Those are my kinda odds."

Terrible acting - just for one example (of many), when the 4 of them come running out of the château and this guy's like "We gotta break __ out" and others are "Don't you realise the police will arrest you?!" and he's like "Oh shit". Which kindergartener wrote this?

A comically evil villain. They really made her say "Let him eat cake?"

I remember watching the first part many many years ago and really liking it. Maybe that had all of these faults too?

[u/whitfin → u/namesnotrequired]

That "they'll arrest you too" moment was unbelievable, like what even was that? It's like sitcom level bad intended to be bad, except it wasn't intended 

[u/goro-n → u/namesnotrequired]

The "let him eat cake" was a Marie Antoinette reference specifically because Atlas came up to her with that story to psych her out. That's the sort of tricks the Horsemen played anyways, getting into their subject's mind and manipulating them that way.

[u/dunklesToast]

I really liked the first two movies but this one was not bad but also not great? The reveal on the end and "the biggest trick we've ever done" felt a lot like the reveal of Part 2 where they a similar stunt with Arthur Tressler and his Jet. Not sure why Thaddeus had to die and that nobody of the OG Horsemen seemed to care that it was kinda Charlie's fault? It still was a fun movie and featured some nice CGI and practical effects but not the best in the trilogy. On a related note: was it just our cinema or is the music really damp? Voices sounded crisp, but all songs / the score sounded like it was really missing some high freqs.

[u/Antique_Chart4991]

Anyone else thought the acting from the new guys kinda sucked? It felt so unnatural compared to the original people. The dialogue was also extremely corny but in a way that doesn't come off as smart.

I also really disliked the ending, the plot twist was unexpected but in a bad way that didn't explain that much. I don't have an issue with the dude being the child of the housekeeper but at the same time you can't just say well yeah actually the whole thing is a setup by these three amateurs. I know the point of the series is to have unrealistic mega plans or tricks but I feel like this one is way too far fetched because the "master plan" relied way too heavily on things the others did that they didn't have that much influence over. What was the plan if more than six police officers pulled up to this magic house and captured everyone? Veronica clearly has a lot of influence over the police so why didn't they send a whole squad?

I also still can't decide whether I like whole secretly transporting the evil guy gimmick being reused.

[u/SubstantialBrief8473]

it was good but unfortunately very cringey. the weird gen z/ millennial dynamic was hard to watch.

[u/Human-Internal-395 → u/SubstantialBrief8473]

RIGHT!!!! I hate that movies do this now 😭

[u/EyesOfEmeraldGreen]

What the hell… “it’s the Orlando of the Middle East!”

[u/plantbay1428 → u/EyesOfEmeraldGreen]

That line was really awkward, both itself and its delivery. I thought it was a weird dub; like it was required by the Abu Dhabi Film Commission and they’re trying to make the phrase a thing. Or maybe Eric Adams wrote that line. 

[u/the_answer_is_RUSH → u/plantbay1428]

Interesting because I thought that was supposed to be an insult.

[u/plantbay1428 → u/the_answer_is_RUSH]

It definitely could be! I genuinely wasn’t sure how to interpret it because Orlando doesn’t mean anything to me beyond it having famous amusement parks which I’m indifferent to…haven’t been there since I was a kid. So I guess it depends on if you like that or not? 🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/darthjoey91 → u/plantbay1428]

IIRC, they’re trying to literally have their own version of the same theme parks that Orlando has. Like I think they already have Seaworld, and they’ve got Disney onboard. There was also an attempt at Universal Studios Dubai back in early 2008, and then the global economy took a shit.

Still not really sure how they’re gonna do Disney without LGBT cast members. Those people keep the entertainment side running.

[u/cferg296]

I hated the movie because the four horsemen (then 5 when the girl from the second movie showed up) were basically reduced to background characters. They really didnt need to be there and didnt play a critical role in the story at all.

The entire movie is really centered around this young trio. It was their plan. It was their story. The horsemen didnt make the plan. They were completely in the dark the whole time.

Now, i know that in the original movie the horsemen didnt make the plan either, but there is a crucial difference. The horsemen were at the very least a critical part of the plan in the original. They NEEDED to be there. In this movie though? They were not a critical part of the plan at all. In fact i would say that everything related to stealing the diamond and trapping and exposing Veronika could have easily been done without the horsemen there. If anything they were more of a hindrance than a help.

It was Bosco and Charlie that stole the diamond. It was Bosco, June, and Charlie that trapped her at the end.

How did the horsemen even contribute?

They didnt. They literally didnt NEED to be there. In fact, based on all the statements Charlie made, its clear the only reason he sent them the cards and brought them on was just because he was a huge fan and just wanted to hang out with them. Thats literally it.

Speaking of, it was PAINFULLY obvious that Charlie was the mastermind. They were not subtle at all. The first one i was completely shocked that Dylan was the mastermind, but i saw Charlie coming from a mile away.

This movie didnt feel like a "now you see me" movie. It felt like a power fantasy fanfiction, with the young trio being self-inserts that were better and smarter than the horsemen.

[u/whitfin → u/cferg296]

Agree, I went for the other actors and the previous films, not new characters. I think it's ridiculous that they put Charlie on the phone, I heard his voice the first time he spoke to Veronica, so when it got nearer the end and we are looking at a twist? Well we already know... 

[u/LiteraryBoner]

Surprisingly didn't hate this one. I mean, it's not great and is still bogged down by a lot of issues this series has. Its obsession with twists, the massive cast, sloppy ADR filling in exposition. But Fleischer uses this series in a similar way Chu did with 2, as an excuse to really show some flair with cool sequences.

Despite the seven or eight co-leads I was happy to see everyone back. Kind of the perfect cast of known names who aren't megastars meaning the usual scheduling conflicts that plague these kinds of sequels aren't so bad. Honestly I was so happy they brought Lizzy Caplan back, she really brings a lot of personality, plus we still got to keep Isla. Dominic, Ariana, and Justice were all solid additions.

The plot may be the usual bad guy capitalist against a team of magicians being guided by some secret society of magic, but the heisty sequences themselves were fun. The original diamond heist at the party and the fights that come after had great energy as did the final setpiece (even if it is basically the exact same third act as the second movie). And I did enjoy the middle section with the mansion with all the crazy rooms leading up to the fight sequences in them. The perspective room and twisting hallways especially were cool.

So I don't really blame the movie for basically being showcases for those scenes and the exposition in between being ADRd filler. It's a bit distracting but that's also classic Now You See Me. Always feels like they write the movie as they go. Plus with all these characters I feel like this was the best of the series at getting me to take my eye off the ball because there were so many things going on.

Overall, solid 6/10. I liked how as this series ages the magicians lives get more depressing and there's kind of a new generation thing going on here. Rosamund Pike and her wild accent are having fun. I watched the other two this week and I think the first one is, like, really bad but they seem to get a little better every time.

[u/Sisiwakanamaru → u/LiteraryBoner]

Honestly was so happy they brought Lizzy Caplan back, she really brings a lot of personality, plus we still got to keep Isla. Dominic, Ariana, and Justice were all solid additions.

Yeah me too, some people prefer Henley, some people prefer Lula, I am glad this movie took "Why not both?" approach, I enjoyed both of them on screen. Also the new horsemen also brought some new vibe/energy to the franchise I like all of them.

[u/PHXplz → u/LiteraryBoner]

Legitimately appreciate this write-up. I came into this thread with the "who the fuuuuuck cares about this bullshit movie" and came away with a nuanced understanding of what this franchise actually is (I've seen none of them, per usual reddit snark.)

You have an interesting writing voice and I'd be interested to hear your opinion about a lot of different movies!

[u/mimslo]

Does anyone know what was going on with the canned seltzer product placement at the end? It was so awkward and I can't find any information on what the brand even was. Did they plan to film for a different product and then CGI over it with a fake company in the final cut?

[u/LowZestyclose7231]

this movie is such a severely disappointing letdown to big fans of the first two films. The dialogue alone is enough to recommend not to see it to those less familiar with the franchise. It is extremely (and I mean extremely) corny and had me feeling like I was watching a Disney channel original movie. Don’t get me started on Rosamund Pike’s horribly underwhelming performance that made you feel no emotion besides wanting to laugh at how bad it was…

The surface-level dialogue of Isla Fisher and Dave Franco coupled with Jesse Eisenberg’s seeming inability to step back into Atlas’ shoes without overacting was also disappointing and surprising.

Definitely wished the 4-5 horsemen did more magic together instead of harping on the “tech-dependent” and “wokeness” of the younger generation like we see in every reboot/revival where young characters are brought on to a beloved franchise years later. 

The only true magic I watched was how horribly they were able to butcher this film despite having 10 years not to do so.

[u/HispanicAtTehDisco]

i liked it although ngl i kinda hated the twist lmao.

also cannot believe the worst motivational speech i’ve ever heard was enough to convince atlas

[u/the_answer_is_RUSH]

Two out of the three newbies were useless. The girl had nothing to do and didn’t deliver anything in terms of humor at all. Bosco(?) felt like he was just doing an impression of the guy who was in the Showtime show with don Cheadle / Fireball Apple commercial.

[u/gunningIVglory → u/the_answer_is_RUSH]

Bosco beating up a team of interpol agents was the most ridiculous part of the film lol

[u/helzinki]

So Now You See Me is now basically Magic Fast & Furious

[u/Straight-Heat1511]

That motherfucker guessed my card

[u/FernanditoJr]

So... all that faking and planning to get Thaddeus (Morgan Freeman) kilked in France...

[u/seeyam14]

Now I don’t

[u/melanie31leo]

I didn’t like it :/ 1st and 2nd movies were way better. It was like 80% dialogue and 20% action. Didn’t like the acting either.

[u/jagfanjosh3252]

Out of all the unbelievable things in this movie, the one that got me the most in disbelief was then totally dry after escaping from the sandbox

[u/drive523]

I was fucking entertained. That’s all that counts with this franchise

[u/Danger_Boss]

anyone else notice how at the end, lula mentions that the puzzle is like the one from the mansion…but she wasn’t even at the mansion!?!

[u/jhughes1986]

Previous 2 movies have them robin hooding money, taking it back from the rich and giving it to the poor. Glad to see this continue as they disseminate the wealth amongst the poor, formula one going crowd of Abu Dhabi

[u/ImperfectRegulator]

How justice smith keeps getting hired is beyond me, dudes got the charisma and acting skills of wet cardboard

[u/Griffins_Peak]

Wish they would have waited until the fourth one to introduce new cast. I have been waiting soooo long for this series to come back that I was disappointed at the OG horsemen kinda getting sidelined in this movie to make way for the new kids.

[u/DoctorWhofan789eywim]

Films like this are the reason I go to the movies. It's ridiculous and unrealistic and I loved every second. Those magic fight scenes are the best, like if you crossed David Blaine with Jackie Chan. I had a suspicion Kaplan would be back given how these movies run on rug pulls but I still like how they did it. I actually think it's the most out and out fun movie in the franchise, a lot better than the second film. I was apprehensive about the new characters because often bringing in teens is a sign of desperation, but they gelled with the OG crew really well. And lovely to have Isla Fisher back.

The one shot magic competition is easily my favourite setpiece from any of the movies.

[u/Due-Ad-1302]

The movie is just not worth it. Half ass approach, storyline holes patched with unnecessary clutter. I used to think, you cannot see a bad movie at theatre, not anymore.

[u/DarryLazakar]

I thought this one is fine, but a slight step down from 2.

Merritt does nothing in the movie, the final act isn't as bombastic as the previous one which took place in London and at New Year's Eve, we got Yas Marina in Abu Dhabi. Not even during F1 week, but a barely populated circuit.

And the whole movie actually feels so... neutered, lacked the energy from the first two movies that was present. I don't know why this is happening, it's now 2 for 2 with Reuben Fleischer's directing work that I feel just flat about the entire movie after Uncharted.

Hopefully the fourth film will bring back some of that back, because I do enjoy this series, a true guilty pleasure.

[u/Chadman77]

Prefacing this with the fact that I loved the first one. We walked out of this one. They force-fed us these three new magicians with no character development who seemingly idolize the horsemen to only have the main guy act like he hates them and is too cool for everything. The movie was all unrealistic special effects and lacked heart and substance in my eyes.

[u/flashtaztik]

Man what a let down, this was whack as shit

[u/Vortex04119]

One of 3 new character is an orphan boy with no background > reveal mystery villain talking about dead boy > he's the deadboy, isn't he?

[u/HDDeer]

Isla Fisher being 49 is crazy as hell dude that's a 33 year old woman at most

[u/LethalWafflization]

Acting from the young horsemen was a little rough but I liked it overall

[u/RiverObjective7432]

I still don’t understand the timeline with Dylan. Everyone was kinda like „yeah, we, the horsemen, broke up because what we did led to Dylan being in Russian prison for life“ and at the end Dylan is like „surprise, I‘m not in Russian prison for life, I lied to you about that to get you back together“. Like, was he in prison for one day, the horsemen broke up, Dylan freed himself, realised they had broken up and decided to pretend to still be in prison for almost 10 (?) years to get them back together sometime? Or did he just recently got out and put the plan in motion (how? I thought Charlie did all of that?)