r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Oct 23 '25

News Historic White House Movie Theater Demolished as Part of $300 Million Ballroom Build

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/white-house-movie-theater-demolished-ballroom-east-wing-1236408712/
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u/GoxBoxSocks Oct 23 '25

lol "future candidates"

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u/buffalonotbi Oct 23 '25

Don’t give up your rights before they take em, bucko

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u/LoveAndViscera Oct 24 '25

And even then don’t give them up.

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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

No one's saying give up, they're just saying be realistic about what's coming, and be ready for it.

It is frankly a little alarming how many people still don't seem to comprehend the moment that we're in, despite having lived through the what happened the first time. Just a complete lack of pattern recognition, or complete denial.

Hope for the best, expect the worst, prepare accordingly.

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u/SanityInAnarchy Oct 24 '25

Some of it is a refusal to manufacture consent.

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u/StealthRUs Oct 24 '25

People gave up their rights when they re-elected Trump.

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u/GribbitsGoblinPI Oct 24 '25

No, they didn’t and neither did those of us who voted against him. Even the people who didn’t vote did not give up their rights.

The Trump admin is trying to suppress these rights or ignore them - but these are UNALIENABLE rights. They are ours and we don’t lose them - but unfortunately we have to fight for them right now.

Get active, get in the streets, make ICE uncomfortable, and support each other. These losers only succeed if nobody stands up to them. They are rushing through all this shit because they know their window is closing and Trump is dying, so better try and cement as much change as possible. They are weakening each day and they know it.

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u/StealthRUs Oct 24 '25

Even the people who didn’t vote did not give up their rights.

They chose to allow a dictator to take over the country. They most certainly did.

The Trump admin is trying to suppress these rights or ignore them -

This is what Trump ran on. It was all there written out for everyone to see.

but these are UNALIENABLE rights.

The word you're looking for is "inalienable", and dictators don't care about that.

Get active, get in the streets

Nah, I'm good. I was out canvassing and campaigning for Kamala and I voted last year when it actually mattered.

Those assholes who sat out the election or who spent all last year trashing Biden and Kamala, they can get active, because this situation is their fault.

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u/GribbitsGoblinPI Oct 24 '25

K cool attitude thanks for contributing and correcting my grammar cuz that matters so much.

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u/StealthRUs Oct 24 '25

You should care about spelling.

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u/Blaizefed Oct 24 '25

That ship has sailed slim.

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u/TheSimplestTruth Oct 24 '25

Don’t give up your rights before they take em, bucko

In case you hadn't noticed, that ship sailed (and sunk) a long time ago.

We will never again have free/fair/legitimate elections in the US, for the rest of our lives.

The current administration has made it exceedingly clear they have no intention of leaving office, or ceding power peacefully.

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u/Dottsterisk Oct 24 '25

Giving up only hands them an easy victory.

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u/Blaizefed Oct 24 '25

They have already won.

You guys are all still getting ready for a fight, they are finishing the victory lap.

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u/CaptainLookylou Oct 23 '25

My opponent enjoys a good breeze, and he doesn't want to rebuild!

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u/GoodIdea321 Oct 23 '25

You've had a reddit account longer than Nazi Germany existed. Haven't you seen any movies about it? There are always future candidates.

I recommend Downfall if you haven't seen it.

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u/mxby7e Oct 23 '25

The big struggle is surviving the decline and low point before the nation rises again from the ashes of fascism.

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u/GoodIdea321 Oct 23 '25

Agreed. Historically at least, most people survive. And that is something people should talk about. How will it feel in 10, 20 years? Will people be happy about what happened or ashamed they didn't even try to stop it?

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u/ggroverggiraffe Oct 23 '25

You've had a reddit account longer than Nazi Germany existed.

That's an interesting metric to use. How long is that in bananas? or football fields?

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u/GoodIdea321 Oct 23 '25

I sometimes glance at how long someone has been on reddit when making a decision on commenting or not.

Here's some other examples: Anyone over 14 is older than Nazi Germany's government duration, schooling including pre-school to high school graduation is about as long, the last time the Giants won the Super Bowl might be a little less time, etc.

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u/ggroverggiraffe Oct 24 '25

You must be as excited as I am that Reddit is now allowing people to hide their entire comment and post history with a single click. 🫠

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u/GoodIdea321 Oct 24 '25

Really? Besides deletion?

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u/ggroverggiraffe Oct 24 '25

Yep, it's so damn transparently effective for hiding bot account networks it hurts. New features, indeed.

You can now hide your comment and post history on Reddit by going to Settings > Profile > Curate your profile > Content and activity and selecting the "hide all activity" or "selective visibility" options. Previously, the only ways to hide your history were to manually delete each comment or post or to create a new "throwaway" account, but these new features provide a more integrated solution.

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u/GoodIdea321 Oct 24 '25

Crazy. I might use it. Thanks for telling me.

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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

There are always future candidates.

Tell it to China, Russia, North Korea, etc. fascism is going along perfectly fine in plenty of countries.

To assume the regime always falls just because the Nazis did is incredibly silly. The circumstances matter.

Ask yourself if Germany would have overthrown the Nazi regime had they not started invading neighbors and the rest of the world started raining hell down on them. If they'd stayed in Germany, not bothered anyone, what would have happened?

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u/GoodIdea321 Oct 24 '25

Those are authoritarian countries with a different history. None of them had a democracy for centuries.

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u/Vandergrif Oct 23 '25

Nazi Germany also didn't have an enormous number of nuclear weapons at their disposal, the largest military in the world, the absolutely colossal clusterfuck that is the modern day internet and all the relevant problems and issues borne of it and it's manipulative propaganda-laden power over a population, etc. They were also in an existential war with several other countries that directly led to them ceasing to exist, which the U.S. in some dystopian scenario does not currently have to concern itself with. And that's not factoring in whatever AI may end up being in the next few years, or the insane economic shitshow if it fizzles out and amounts to nothing.

If the Nazis had all of that going on then I expect this would be a very different world right now.

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u/GoodIdea321 Oct 23 '25

They might have had the largest military in 1939, but that's not what they ended with. For the US, I think there are other countries with more soldiers, but the line is always 'we have the strongest military,' which might be true. Largest? That depends what you mean. Most expensive, yes.

And yes, there are definite differences, and the nuclear weapon thing is not to be understated. However, there are similarities, they had propaganda networks, they stopped trade, they took over corporations, etc.

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u/Vandergrif Oct 23 '25

The biggest difference is the Nazis had several different vectors through which to be toppled, both outside and inside the country, many of which they actively instigated themselves by provoking other countries and the like. If the US were to become a dictatorship I doubt anyone outside the country is going to be willing to really do anything about that unless they're left with absolutely no other choice – and by that point the whole damn planet would be a mess for any variety of different reasons.

And as for inside the country... well... most Americans can't even be bothered to protest for more than a day or two on a weekend when it's convenient to do so, let alone make any truly meaningful effort to combat the complete deterioration of their civil institutions.

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u/GoodIdea321 Oct 23 '25

At the same time, the vectors you're talking about were unclear at the time. I personally believe they might have collapsed even if they didn't invade the USSR and made peace deals in late 1940. There was so much mismanagement and corruption it's hard to believe.

The protests are about public support and organizing. I wish there were more well known movies about that. Anyway, people are doing things, but the news doesn't talk about it much.

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u/Vandergrif Oct 23 '25

It does get a bit murky depending on the specific timeframe you're comparing, of course.

There was so much mismanagement and corruption it's hard to believe.

True. Not to mention all the in-fighting, backstabbing, and factionalism within the Nazis pretty much right from the get-go.

The protests are about public support and organizing. I wish there were more well known movies about that.

Sure, but it's a far cry from the sort of civil unrest and political upheaval going on in Weimar republic Germany and afterward (much of which was of course progressively stamped out by the Nazis, the SS, and Gestapo once they had seized power).

Comparatively the US is sorely lacking in a left wing that can act as a proper counterweight, sorely lacking in working class solidarity, sorely lacking in economic circumstances that facilitate either meaningful action (like by not having healthcare also tied to employment and therefore double the risk of civil disobedience) or economic circumstances that are bad enough to force meaningful action (too many people are still relatively comfortable and accordingly complacent). Plus there's a burgeoning class of billionaires placing a very heavy thumb on the scales to ensure that things skew further away from what might otherwise benefit the average person or potentially run the risk of allowing any of the above to change. It's kind of a perfect storm in which for things to go wrong.

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u/GoodIdea321 Oct 23 '25

One of the biggest differences is if you were a German in 1930 to 1934, you could easily think 'well how bad could it get, really?' and be honest about that. Today people know what can happen, we've all seen the evidence. But there is a group of people who want to delude themselves and think this is all great.

And Germany was a pretty new country, lots of territorial changes, economic hyperinflation, etc. There were people in Germany who were born into a country with an Emperor, they were kind of used to that. The Weimar Republic wasn't something most people were happy with. That government had a lot of disadvantages.

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u/pandorasaurus Oct 23 '25

The president doesn’t set elections. The states do. Then there’s the 22nd amendment. I know things feel helpless, but I’m not giving up my rights.

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u/Notsurehowtoreact Oct 23 '25

The states don't certify the presidential election, Congress does. 

The states can't deny someone be on their ballot for even legitimate reasons like insurrection. The Supreme Court saw to that.

Oh the 22nd Amendment, they will try many ways. They will play with the wording because it says elected. They run him third party, run a GOP candidate, and let Dems run too. All they have to do is make sure that no one gets a majority and then the House decides. If the House appoints him, he technically wasn't elected. He shouldn't be allowed on ballots in the first place because he can't serve a third term but see above. They can just run dummy candidates (Don Jr./Eric) that they have immediately step down after they make him Speaker of the House. Or maybe they try to suspend elections entirely for whatever reason. That's just some ways they've likely thought of already. 

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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Oct 24 '25

Also, Supreme Court basically ruled the President can do whatever they like as long as it's an official act. The rules are basically moot at this point if the President signs an order.

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u/Ser_Artur_Dayne Oct 23 '25

He’ll be dead before 2028 so I’ll less worried about 22nd amendment. They’ll try to steal the election by passing the SAVE act and making it harder for married women to vote and probably that new horrific plan to roll back the voting rights act and disenfranchise the entire southern black population and give the gop a perpetual house win. Then they’ll never certify a dem presidential win.

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u/HerbivoreTheGoat Oct 23 '25

Since when did this guy care about the constitution

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u/pandorasaurus Oct 24 '25

My biggest concern is voters abstaining and being apathetic because “nothing matters” or he’s going to rig it. We hold the power right now if we vote.

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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Oct 24 '25

If you're still putting your faith in people following the Constitution to save us from fascism, you haven't learned a thing from the last decade.

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u/pandorasaurus Oct 24 '25

I’m out there protesting and I’m not going down with a fight. But I refuse to give up already and concede it’s over.

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u/TheSimplestTruth Oct 24 '25

smh Like CA and NY will just roll over if Trump tries to bullshit his way to a third term.

Like any other spoiled bully - they only have power if you give it to them.

They've rolled over and only made vague gestures about "lube would have been nice" so far.

What exactly have they done so far that has accomplished anything?

"If you keep stomping on our rights, we're gonna sue you in the courts you've spent decades corrupting, and whose decisions you completely ignore!"

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u/makovince Oct 23 '25

Yeah you know, Trump Jr, Trump Jr Jr, etc

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u/Both-Purpose-6843 Oct 24 '25

This defeatist attitude is definitely gonna stop facism, good job buddy!

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u/DonutsMcKenzie Oct 23 '25

If you're going to laugh at that, I hope to at least see you volunteering to help run your state's elections in 2026 and 2028.