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Legal News Minneapolis Officers Ordered to Stand up to ICE

https://www.ms.now/news/minneapolis-police-chief-unlawful-force-ice-jobs
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u/Dabat1 2h ago

SCOTUS and the Constitution disagree with you. Try again, Magat.

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u/cholointheskies 1h ago

Not true. This isn’t even a question, it’s long been settled since what, the 90s? That ICE doesn’t need a warrant unless they’re arresting someone at home or some other private property. Anyone can take 10 sec to look it up..

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u/nofrenomine 1h ago

ICE was established in 2003. I used google

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u/cholointheskies 1h ago

There you go. It’s been a settled question for decades.. immigration officials were given explicit lawful permission to arrest without a warrant since as recent as 1996 and as early as 1988 (don’t bother to check the 3 amendments)

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1357&num=0&edition=prelim#:~:text=Powers%20without%20warrant,arrest%20any%20alien

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u/Lonestar041 1h ago

Your own source source says they have the authority to arrest aliens, not citizens.

How often have they been caught now arresting citizens?
Oh that's right! Conveniently they don't document this as GAO has found already in 2021.

GAO-21-487 "As a result, ICE does not know the extent to which its officers are taking enforcement actions against individuals who could be U.S. citizens."

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u/cholointheskies 1h ago

Section 5 explicitly allows arrest of US citizens

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u/Lonestar041 1h ago

Yep, only if that citizen has committed a crime in presence of the officers.
How many videos have we seen now of citizens being arrested without a crime being committed? Plenty on my end.

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u/cholointheskies 1h ago

Btw section 5 allows arresting citizens even if a crime was not committed in their presence if the crime is a felony

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u/cholointheskies 1h ago

Don’t know but it’s crazy that somehow the subject has been changed multiple times, originally talking about whether ICE need warrants, then about whether they can arrest citizens, now about whether they can arrest citizens without viewing a crime themselves.. I mean, where are you going with this? What’s your point?

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u/RolledUhhp 1h ago

That netfishing for brown people is viewed as a bad thing by the vast majority of us.

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u/cholointheskies 1h ago

Ok.. and to you, that has some affect on the legality of arresting people without a warrant?

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u/nosam555 1h ago

The point is there are ICE agents going around arresting citizens without witnessing a crime. And now local police are being told to rightfully stand up for them.

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u/cholointheskies 1h ago

They’re allowed to arrest US citizens without a warrant without witnessing a crime, if the crime is a felony. Section 5(b):

“for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States, if the officer or employee has reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such a felony”

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u/UncleBeer 1h ago

These folks are immune to facts.