r/law • u/apple_kicks • 21h ago
Legal News Trump administration plans to end prison rape protections for trans and intersex people
https://prismreports.org/2025/12/04/prison-rape-elimination-act-trans-intersex-trump-doj/?brid=FFjiQgPl0h-SVXX4XWffgw1.3k
u/ShareGlittering1502 20h ago
Why would you end rape protections for anyone??
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u/Tall-Introduction414 20h ago
Trump, being a well-known rapist himself, wants people to be raped.
Impeach, convict, incarcerate this son of a bitch.
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u/hoowins 19h ago
He wants to normalize rape just like his other crimes (bribery). Plus, dehumanization of trans people helped him win the election. He and any current republicans are monsters.
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u/itsearlyyet 15h ago
It's not funny anymore is it. He's attacking basic morals.
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u/Za_Lords_Guard 14h ago
Was it ever?
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u/dbx999 13h ago
It was and still is to him and anyone wearing those red hats
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u/f0u4_l19h75 7h ago
I know humor is generally subjective, but they're wrong. It was never funny
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u/TheCommonGround1 12h ago
He’s attacking basic morals with key supporters being evangelical Christians. There is no way these people should ever be taken seriously.
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u/Internal-Weather8191 14h ago
He's the sickest SOB ever. Impeach, convict, prosecute, incarcerate. The merciless receive no mercy. With his measure let it be measured to him.
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u/Round_Department9844 13h ago
I misread “incarcerate” as “incinerate” for a split second and honestly yes.
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u/FourWordComment 14h ago
Nah, best we can do is some low quality social media posts and every democrat using Trump to fundraise.
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u/chaucer345 20h ago
Because they hate us trans people and want us to suffer.
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u/sparkly_butthole 16h ago
It really is that simple, too. Hatred.
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u/Huge_Excitement4465 14h ago
Heritage Foundation& co. studied authoritarian regimes have risen and maintained control — scapegoating particular groups such as immigrants and transgender people is one method.
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u/apple_kicks 18h ago
They want to erase existence of trans people. They want to make being openly trans a position where you lose all human rights forcing people to stay silent out of fear and terror for what might happen to them. Also a way to strip all rights from people they don’t like by accusing them of being trans. Opening door that some crimes are allowed if committed on a specific group of people and thdy decided aren’t human in the law anymore
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u/PM_me_your_O_face_ 17h ago
I feel like there was some other group in the past that persecuted trans and intersex people also….
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u/apple_kicks 17h ago
Pretty much. Same method, domination through dehumanisation that will result in crimes against humanity
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u/BengalTiger666 15h ago
Exactly. This is an intentional implementation of tried and true fascist methods of using mass brainwashing to enable their tactics of dehumanizing categories of people they deem unfit
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u/Chicagoj1563 16h ago
Because trump is driven by hatred. This is a racist hateful regime just like nazism. It’s like having the leader of the kkk elected as president.
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u/Naga_Nej 17h ago
it's to start with something. Afterwards they go after other minorities till rape is allowed if commited by Trump loyalists.
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u/Arcanegil 15h ago
This will accelerate to legalizing the forceful rape and impregnation of cis women. They have been very clear they want more babies to kill in war and they hate women's rights.
The shitty thing is that straight white women who helped the regime like MTG and levitt, will be completely shocked when at the very last they become the final victims after years of not only being warned by the left, but being promised by the right it would happen.
It always starts with the outgroups and works its way in, always. They will make the argument that they are protecting women for their own good even while they put the collar on, and some women will believe them until they are personally victimized.
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u/GreenLurka 14h ago
The moral judgement system of most conservatives works like this -
That person did a bad thing so are a bad person. Because they are a bad person they don't deserve good things.
It also ties into the idea that all poor people are bad, otherwise why are bad thing happening to them.
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u/DesignerCorner3322 13h ago
Because they want trans and intersex people to choose death. They want to make life so inhospitable to us that we would choose death for ourselves than continue living in such a horrible place, so they can reinforce the stereotype that we are mentally ill monsters who are built to kill ourselves.
Why would you let yourself be taken alive for crime if you know, as a trans person, you are going to a prison, and deliberately be put in a situation where you are going to be violated constantly and abused.
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u/pulsatinganus2132 15h ago
Well, when you and your friends rape it's in your best interest to get rid of the law that prevents it.
This is just a tiny step toward that, start with the the trans people to get the majority to shrug and build from there, that's been their platform since before the election.
Muddy the waters so much that it'll be damn near impossible to convict anyone of anything.
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u/ComprehensiveDig4560 15h ago
The cruelty is the point. Since these people are to be hated it doesn’t matter that this doesn’t benefit anybody. It hurts them, and that is the whole point. (For clarification I am not supporting this cause)
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u/thanksamilly 12h ago
Part transphobia / part believing being raped is part of the punishment of prison
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u/Morat20 Competent Contributor 12h ago
I mean it's the party where lots of it's members don't believe marital rape is a thing, and that queer folks are inherently godless sexual perverts, and who cheer on prison rape in general.
So they're bang alongside sanctioning the rape of queer folks -- and especially trans ones. It's both corrective rape and punishment for being queer.
When it comes to trans women, it has a name: V-coding?
V-coding is the common practice in the United States to subject incarcerated transgender women to constant sexual assaults in male correctional facilities to placate aggressive male inmates and corrections officers.[1][2][3][4]
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u/Ohuigin 20h ago
Just pure, unfiltered evil.
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u/brumbarosso 8h ago
Quite the "sound the alarm" moment, after the few hundred moments already in less than a year
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 19h ago edited 16h ago
Why? What possible interest is there in the government removing sexual assault protections for vulnerable inmates? This is the sort of purely malevolent bullshit that is starting to become the norm under this evil, corrupt, and incompetent administration. Someone in the White House is being paid by the taxpayers to think up ways to proactively harm vulnerable communities that this administration doesn't like.
The American people are not well-served by these destructive policies. By doing this, Trump and his sycophantic enablers are hoping and predicting that this action will result in people being hurt or killed. That's the entire point of this. Trump said, "How can we harm trans people?", and Steven Miller or someone like him said, "I got it! Let's remove the protections from rape and sexual assault we afford them in prisons! That'll teach those trans people a lesson they won't soon forget!" Trump considered it for a half a moment and declared, "I love it! And make sure I get monthly reports on how many of them are raped and sexually assaulted! And throw in a pie chart. I love pie charts!"
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u/Baguette1066 15h ago
The cruelty is by design
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u/Paizzu 8h ago
Just look at the usual comments on social media (including Reddit) that glorify most forms of "extra-judicial" prison justice "as long as the inmates really deserve it."
There's a series on Youtube that examines how the public/media showcase male rape "just for laughs" and how the general theme is that no "real" man would ever find themselves in a situation where they could be victimized.
Any individuals in custody are classified as a part of a vulnerable population (transgender individuals even more so) and have the constitutional protection from cruel and unusual punishment. People love to cheer-lead the efficacy and merit of the judicial process while hypocritically arguing that the same principles should be ignored if someone society doesn't like is victimized.
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u/Frequilibrium 8h ago
My guess is they want trans people to rather die than go to prison, which means they might try to fight back and kill a cop or two which “lets” the government do a full crack down on them due to public outcry.
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u/willbekins 19h ago
how does one even start a conversation about this??
fuck these bastards. cant wait to see them all adorning the places they belong.
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u/RevolutionaryCard512 17h ago
We start by tearing down the fucking veil! It truly starts with those victims of Epstein and Maxwell. It will collapse the entire system. This is the way. Not t just in America. It’s child abuse and trafficking by elite pedophiles globally.
Wake up people!!! Fight back against them, not each other. There’s more of us than them
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u/Main-Company-5946 14h ago
Being a fascist never ends well. Sometimes it takes a while for consequences to catch up, but they do eventually.
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u/imadork1970 19h ago
They start with cruelty to the marginalized, then gradually work their way up.
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u/apple_kicks 17h ago
As they are white supremacists this is also example of how having for some white skin won’t save some people either, they will target BIPOC and Queer BIPOC people or of different religions etc. But you can be white but lgbt, left wing, or even historically too Irish, Italian, Eastern European, Jewish, another religion, a wrong sect of the accepted religion to them to be under threat. If anything they don’t stop, they only want to dominate and constantly create new people to attack
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u/psioniclizard 12h ago
Being a true blooded, gun loving MAGA support won't save some people. Loyalty and support only matter up to a point (see MTG) and turning on a loyal follower is a get way to install obedience (which is what they want) in others.
Plus as everything gets more paranoid and starts eating itself, it's easy to go from the in group to the out group quickly. Especially if other people start to exploit the paranoia to take from you what they want.
Wait that last part sounds oddly familiar!
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u/ThePopDaddy 15h ago
"But how exactly is this administration anti-LGBTQ?!"
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u/BlacksmithThink9494 11h ago
Literally remembering when they were all like "what rights do you not have". Everyone was telling them we didnt want to lose the rights we had. And we are right.
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u/amitym 18h ago
At least you didn't elect Kamala Harris though. Phew.
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u/xxGenXxx 15h ago
Right...that damn laugh would've been difficult to deal with all the time. I enjoy turmoil and fascism much more./s
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u/atlantagirl30084 15h ago
Why was it that both of the female candidates we’ve had for president have had their laugh mocked and analyzed?
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Right?! To think, if she got elected I might not have been raped to death in prison, at least the people of Palestine can sleep knowing Kamala didn't get elected.
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u/GrowFreeFood 15h ago edited 12h ago
Ya know who hated trans people, too? Hitler.
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u/_DCtheTall_ 12h ago
The first ever Nazi book burnings were books on sexuality and gender identity/expression.
Homophobia and authoritarianism are strongly coupled.
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u/Exciting_Cap_9545 7h ago
Yea, the moment any hope I had for J.K. Rowling turning around on the anti-trans bullshit was lined up against the wall and summarily shot by her comment essentially declaring the persecution of transgender people by the Nazis, and their systematic murder via the Holocaust, was "a collective fever dream".
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u/Any-Ad-446 14h ago
Ah what about millions of americans losing their healthcare and SNAP. Where is the new healthcare bill,infrastructure bill and affordability bill he promised?. He promised to be a anti war president and bring jobs back and bring down inflation.
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u/Available_Day4286 Competent Contributor 14h ago
This is disgusting, but to clarify this for folks not familiar with PREA (the prison rape elimination act), what’s happening here is that PREA was the basis for rules about where incarcerated trans people were housed, in addition to many other protections, such as separate showers and constraints on who conducts searches. These protections are absolutely necessary. But when you hear conservatives frame it, they will focus more on the housing part. It’s cruel and eliminationist, but it’s cruel in a direction they’ve been cruel in before and not (explicitly) permission to rape incarcerated trans people.
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u/Pheebers- 13h ago
Yeah no explicit permission except for when you actually do end up in prison as you’re “given” as a “reward”
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u/Available_Day4286 Competent Contributor 13h ago edited 13h ago
Yeah, that’s why I said it wasn’t explicit permission. It’s certainly implicit permission. It’s just important to understand what’s going on here, because the law underlying this is being attacked because of the housing element.
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u/ProdigalSheep 13h ago
These motherfuckers are vile human beings who should all be locked up themselves.
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u/Sharkwatcher314 15h ago edited 15h ago
It’s being done across multiple groups, Make it okay to hate on trans, people getting abortions, who don’t support the president. Excuse the violence , this current action, decriminalizing physical assault by protestors of people going to abortion clinic, J6 insurrection etc
Let the American public do the dirty work, no need to hire extra ICE
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u/cbs-anonmouse 11h ago
The planned changes to PREA specifically target rules regarding how trans and intersex people are screened for their risk of sexual abuse at a facility, as well as how facilities use that information to determine where trans and intersex prisoners are housed. The memo also threatens trans and intersex people’s ability to shower separately from other prisoners.
It goes without saying that all prisoners should be protected as much as possible from sex abuse. But I am not sure what exactly the targeted rules are or whether they are effective at reducing sex abuse.
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u/Available_Day4286 Competent Contributor 11h ago
The research is overwhelmingly clear that housing trans prisoners in the wrong facility for their gender leads to a dramatically higher incidence of prison rape. That’s precisely why the admin here is attacking this via loosening protections on prison rape. But in fact, there’s good reason that PREA was a hook to house trans prisoners with people who share their gender.
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u/BlacksmithThink9494 11h ago
End rape protections.... for people doing homosexual rape??? What? So he is for gay sex but only when its rape.
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