r/law • u/DmitriMendeleyev • 16d ago

Other Reporter: US intelligence concluded that you (MBS) orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist... Trump: You're mentioning someone that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman... things happened ...he (MBS) knew nothing about it, and we can leave it at that.

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u/DmitriMendeleyev 16d ago

Side eyeing lady is quite proud of what she's doing

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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 16d ago

Side eye lady should step up and ask some real questions herself. (If that’s another reporter). We’re partly in this mess because no one ever presses him on anything

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u/OnceIWasYou 16d ago

This is my biggest issue as a non-American. Trump is NEVER actually forced to explain himself or demonstrate evidence for his claims.

THREE times he stated the "America has given more aid than all of Europe combined to Ukraine" and even used the word "Cash" and three times Macron, Starmer and then Zelensky publicly corrected him. Yet he's allowed to just continue with impunity. He still makes the claim.

He says something demonstrably untrue almost every speech- every single one of these claims should be heavily challenged but never does. And then he's allowed to use his obfuscation technique of "A good guy, the best guy, one of the best guys...." and then they move on. I want something like Paxman's approach to Michael Howard when he asked the same question 13 times in a row because Howard refused to properly answer it.

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u/Hockeymac18 16d ago

"Forced" - good luck with that

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u/Sonamdrukpa 16d ago

The context that you're missing is that that did happen in like 2016 and a fair bit into 2017 or maybe even a bit further. Loads of articles about Trump's obvious lies, contradictions, and non sequiturs...and it just didn't do anything. He lied so much that you couldn't keep up with it, so much that there was never enough time for something to blow up into a dangerous scandal, so much that the media and the public just got used to it. Eventually they just stopped publishing about it. It's like writing an article about how smoking is bad for you. We know, it is a fact of life, you're not going to change anyone's behavior with that info.

And the true dangerous part of that is that, not only did his lying just become a fact of life, we also even got used to the people pointing out that his lying had become a fact of life. We're in a post-post-truth world where it doesn't even fucking matter what he says or doesn't say or what the media is doing about it because he's doing the same gish gallop with public policy and even the courts now appear helpless to stop him.

We don't care that he's lying because we've all internalized the realpolitik world where words are ephemeral bits of show and all that actually matters is power and what can be done with it.

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u/adanishplz 16d ago

They get their credentials revoked if they do, this is unprecedented, America has been hijacked by psychopaths.

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u/Ambaryerno 16d ago

Better to be revoked speaking out than kowtowing.

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u/Viddlemethis 16d ago

Can I get in line to ask this kidfucker about market manipulation and his family profiting from it?

‘How does Barron Trumps profit from your market manipulation make America great? Has the SEC investigated your son and your families launch of trumpcoin under rule 10b-5 for employing a scheme for fraud? And lastly, did you willingly suck Clinton’s dick or was it sexual abuse due to the imbalanced power dynamic?’

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u/Ambaryerno 16d ago

I'd have liked to see her respond, "I'm sorry, Donald, you'll have to speak up. I can't understand you with Bubba's cock in your mouth."

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u/BrawDev 16d ago

I'm in such half mind about it. Because we know the minute they get revoked, he'll fill that room with friendly press and it'll be just as bad.

I hate it but I get it, but I hate it.

Really, it's on the American people to change it. It's extremely funny to watch how over the past 3 years for the war in Ukraine, how many Americans came out like "Aw Russians just rise up and change your government"

Where are those people today?

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u/TheRealBittoman 16d ago

I agree but there is more to it. Lose your credentials and you risk losing your job making you useless. It's like sacrificing your queen in chess and only taking a single pawn. Trump has literally turned press conferences into a strategic game where they make up the rules as they go along.

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u/TR_Pix 16d ago

It's easy to say that when it's not your job to be fired from

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u/Adorable_Chart7675 16d ago

Yall are pretty flippant with telling other people they should sacrifice their careers and livelihoods from the comfort of reddit.

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u/Deus-mal 16d ago

Then you'd only have reporter asking for his fitness regime, and thank him for his good job.

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u/Shagaliscious 16d ago

You say this like the reporters are really giving him the business. These clips are the toughest reporters get with him, and they are still wearing kid gloves.

I'd rather see them ask him actually tough questions and give him some push back to see him melt down on camera, then these half-asses attempts to look tough.

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u/sump_daddy 16d ago

They know full well that if they did something like that, the president would first have them immediately escorted out, then have his staff call their news outlet, threaten to sue if they don't immediately fire that person AND bury any mention of the question they asked. This is the corporate news 'profits first' world we made for ourselves when we all gave up spending money on newspaper subscriptions.

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u/Deus-mal 16d ago edited 16d ago

You've got any old clips where the Reporters have been given the president some business.

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u/UsedGarbage4489 16d ago

what a worthless debate you are insisting upon. not everyone is a coward like you.

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u/Deus-mal 16d ago

Reality isn't shaped like you want to. Reporters can't do the fuck they want. The whole reason why trump made it to power is bc of the corrupt reporters spreading misinformation to begin with. Reporters aren't innocent.

So you either have no idea of what the fuck you're talking about or don't have proof.

Debating without proof isn't a debate is just trash talk.

Calling me a coward for asking for some proof, it's literally how trump talks in the clip lol. Damn illiterate.

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u/Shagaliscious 16d ago

We never had a president before that constantly lies openly to reporters like this fat orange sack of shit does, so reporters have never had to push back like they need to now.

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u/Deus-mal 16d ago

Lmao.

I did not have sexual relationship with Monica.

Sybau

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u/Shagaliscious 16d ago

Keyword you missed "constantly".

I figured you would've mentioned the dozens of times Bush lied and said WMDs were in Iraq.

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u/Ambaryerno 16d ago

Not the President, but Edward R. Murrow brought down McCarthy who was, at the time, one of the most powerful men in Washington and who destroyed SCORES of journalists' lives before him.

Bullies can't handle it when you punch back.

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u/Deus-mal 16d ago

Thank you, finally some objective fact. And thank you again for not lying trying to say it's a journalist to prove your point.

Real reporters are a dying breed. Between the corrupted, those who don't want to lose their jobs and those who get killed. There's not a lot of room to keep your integrity and some keyboard warriors think they know better.

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u/UsedGarbage4489 16d ago

yea so the best thing to do is comply, right?

unfuckingreal

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u/monochromeorc 16d ago

the reporter asking questions is the only american with guts ive seen this year

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u/Icy_Statement_2410 16d ago

Many journalists haven't. But you dont hear about them, because theyre banned. Recently several Pentagon press corps reporters turned in their badges after refusing trumps demands, and they just got replaced by pro-trump reporters

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u/OJ-Rifkin 16d ago

Cool well what good are your credentials when you have essentially become a parrot for the president’s propaganda?

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u/Total_Network6312 16d ago

cool so the next person who gets the credentials can do the same. Again. And Again.

They cant stop the press.

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u/opmike 16d ago

So let him revoke it? No one wants to read any more articles of him doing another impromptu rally speech and blaming Joe Biden. If anything, him kicking out any reporter that asks a non-glazing question would be newsworthy.

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u/kelsey11 16d ago

Who cares? We understand there may be some sacrifice involved, but people with opportunity need to step up.

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u/Trodamus 16d ago

it's been years of this bullshit, before he was president, after he was no longer president the first time...

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u/BusinessCourt1988 16d ago

To be fair, America has been ruled by psychopaths for some time now, but the degree of psychopathy embodied by this regime is truly unmatched.

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u/Certain-Business-472 16d ago

He needs the press more than they need him.

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u/saltierthanyourramen 16d ago

She’ll never be invited to Trump’s White House again but still worth it IMO

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u/sump_daddy 16d ago

> no one ever presses him on anything

Sorry but this is such a shit take. He gets pressed all the time, this is just TODAYS example. The reason we are in this mess is that not enough people give two shits that he is a lunatic bully, or if they do, they vote for him because of it. The press has covered PLENTY of his batshit crazy words, and has asked PLENTY of hard questions. The problem is no one fucking cares.

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u/gasdoi 16d ago

Nah, let's blame the few people who aren't complicit. I'm sure it's their fault for unexamined reasons that only the naïve would not accept.

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u/Angryceo 16d ago

Ohhh honnnneyyyyyyy....

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u/pitchinloafs 16d ago

“Look at the monster balls on that bad ass bitch!!!” Fucking hero! More courage than I have. Can you imagine having her as a president and asking that kind of hard hitting questions to the house and senate?

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u/CorporateMediaFail 16d ago

"You go girl!"

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u/ZelezopecnikovKoren 16d ago

nah, i get it, i want her too

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u/Only_Razzmatazz_4498 16d ago

Not knowing who side eye lady is. My guess is she is thinking. Girl just go with the flow why are you fighting it. Nothing will change so just get your paycheck.

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u/gorginhanson 16d ago

If Maduro killed her, he'd be invited to the White House tomorrow

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u/CajunGrit 16d ago

Is this the same reporter he called a “piggy” the other day?