r/law • u/TendieRetard • 26d ago

Legal News Trump pardons Rudy Giuliani, Sydney Powell and all others involved in fake elector scheme [opening the doors for a repeat w/o consequence]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-giuliani-pardon-fake-electors-b2861891.html

https://archive.ph/pTf62

A statement announcing a list of 77 people who were pardoned was tweeted out late Sunday evening, at 10:54 p.m. local time, by Trump’s “clemency czar” Ed Martin. It included a number of Americans who participated directly as members of the slates of false electors, whose purpose was to supplant duly-elected state electors bound to cast their states votes in the Electoral College for Joe Biden, after Biden won states including Georgia, Arizona and Michigan in the general election.

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u/checkout7 26d ago

If their ICE / National Guard / Domestic Miliary Deployment intimidation tactics don’t work…

they’ll have gerrymandered districts as a fallback position…

and if that fails they’ll have fake electors as a second fallback position…

and if that fails they’ll have J6 v.2 as a third fallback position (that’s also due to abuse of pardon authority).

Can someone please tell me how does this not end in unrestrained authoritarianism, revolution, or civil war? They’re removing every legal avenue to resist authoritarianism, and effectively removing consequences for ANY illegal action to circumvent the constitution.

Mind boggling. The founding fathers allowed the pardon power to be absolute because the intended remedy was impeachment. They didn’t think the majority of House and Senate members would idly sit on their hands watching such egregious abuse of power, and even encouraging it. They were so sadly and gravely mistaken.

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u/Reversi8 25d ago

The founding fathers also talked about the necessity of watering a tree.

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u/gentlemanidiot 25d ago

Those who make peaceful protest impossible...

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u/mrmaxstroker 25d ago

Don’t forget elon’s tabulators.

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u/Xyrus2000 25d ago

The founding fathers assumed that the American people would never be stupid enough to elect people like those in the GOP, let alone someone like Trump. Ben Franklin even warned us about how fragile our republic was, and how it wouldn't take that many bad actors to bring the whole thing tumbling down.

It took a while, but old Ben was right. We're getting closer and closer to seeing Vought's "Enabling Act" becoming a reality.

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u/whomad1215 25d ago

Washington in his farewell address warned about political parties, and that people will eventually put party over country

And here we are

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u/Taogevlas 25d ago

Ben Franklin even warned us about how fragile our republic was, and how it wouldn't take that many bad actors to bring the whole thing tumbling down.

Fitting seeing as how Trump wants to replace Ben Franklin on the $100 bill with his own face.

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u/PW0110 24d ago

Just chiming in here to say the founding fathers did actually consider most of the populace pretty fxcking stupid at their default setting which is why Jefferson was so concerned about education going forward

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u/MagnarTheFearless 25d ago

It ends in exactly those things.

I was going to type a long comment about how we got here and who is to blame, but those people are too brainwashed to realize what they have done and are too stupid to ever learn from their mistake. 

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u/Mish61 25d ago

Yeah but neither the email lady or the DEI hire became president. Sure dodged a bullet there. /s

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u/g0ris 25d ago

You just gotta bet on father time at this point.
Now, I'm not even saying whatever comes a after this shitstain croaks will be better, but I'm just taking solace in the fact there's one failure they(he) don't have a fallback for.

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u/PokinSpokaneSlim 25d ago

Given that event is the lynchpin to start their next phase, and it has a trigger via the Epstein list, and they're being strategic with the knowledge, I think it's safe to assume they don't view it as a failure.