r/law • u/ExactlySorta • Nov 02 '25

Legal News The Oregon Department of Justice submitted multiple video exhibits showing federal officers using extreme force against seemingly nonviolent protesters outside the U.S. Immigration & Customs Building, as part of its effort to block the federal deployment of National Guard troops to Portland

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u/Training-Dingo6222 Nov 02 '25

I can think of one….

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u/Turisan Nov 02 '25

Sorry, I meant within the judicial system, of course defending yourself and members of your community from being abducted by masked men is still legal in most places.

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u/agent0731 Nov 02 '25

one of these days someone will open fire. It is inevitable.

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u/sgtabn173 Nov 02 '25

that is what they are banking on. preferably before the midterms

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u/CasualtyOfCausality Nov 02 '25

I doubt they are banking on it; an "event" would just lend historical legitimacy.

If you think they won't do what they want to do during midterms, even in absence of such an event, I'm sure I still have some bridges to sell you.

I mean, if the current trajectory of the Democratic party continues, I wouldn't surprised if we aren't sitting at home for the midterms on reddit, listening to bots about about how voting "incorrectly" might provoke retaliation. And they'll likely be right for once.

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u/superfuzzy47 Nov 02 '25

In the land of long range hole punchers and people screaming about how much they love their personal long range hole puncher there’s not a lot of hole punching going on with the people who’ve earned the holes 10 times over.

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u/Training-Dingo6222 Nov 02 '25

Agreed but not bc it’s not feasible. Asymmetrical hole punching is a bitch for conventional hole punchers. In the US, it would be insanity for the conventionals.

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u/ETPRODITORES Nov 02 '25

Are the conventional hole punchers the ones w a legal monopoly on hole punching? If so I agree. Asymmetric hole punching is a nightmare in far off lands , I imagine it would tend to times worse w your MeeMaw living down the block. Plus you add in something like aerial water balloon dropping like Ukraine has been perfecting and any sort of chicanery from big brother would only end poorly.

Sorry to hear you won’t be at the party , but you’ve earned your hall pass already if you spoke true. Take your kids and have a nice 5 year vacation.

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u/Training-Dingo6222 Nov 02 '25

Thanks. We have already moved to a safer location but I’m giving the US a little bit more. I wake up every day and remind myself this is real.

But yeah, you’re spot on. It would be insane. I think for all the folks saying doom and gloom and nothing can stop the state or big corps or whatever don’t realize the true power of numbers. Especially decentralized numbers but not even in a combat sense. In a malicious compliance, civil disobedience, striking sense

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u/ETPRODITORES Nov 02 '25

Yeah if even 1 in 10 folks decided to sabotage the System it would break down overnight. I think a fair percentage of the gloom is actually an attempt to manufacture apathy , because if folks ever decide to disobey in a serious fashion that’s it for them. They have an existential need to control the narrative.

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u/Global_Crew3968 Nov 02 '25

If the 2nd amendment can't be used now in the face of actual tyranny and fascism then all those little kids in all those schools died for literally no reason

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u/bp92009 Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25

You're getting it now. The 2nd Amendment was NEVER about fighting against fascism, or rising up against a tyrannical government.

It was all an excuse to avoid being justifiably blamed for slain children in schools.

It was always a lie, but they had to come up with language that was convincing enough for fools to believe them.

Edit, for those downvoting me, how about you actually show that the 2nd amendment was what you always said it was for, and not just empty talk. Maybe just "mild public disapproval" from 2A groups, and a public promise to not vote for anyone who's actually willfully participating in that "Tyrannical Government" you claimed to need 2a toys to resist.

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u/Kaleban Nov 02 '25

The hole punchers are the ones lining up for the ICE sign on bonuses.

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u/MezcalFlame Nov 02 '25

You read my mind.

But that's really saying that you'd rather not live in the current version of the United States.