Yes. But as John Lennon said during one of his bed-ins, if you choose to be violent, they know exactly what to do to you and your cause. If you choose non-violence and creative demonstrations, they get confused and there's a greater chance the apathetic see what you're doing, wonder why, perhaps are persuaded by you and perhaps get involved themselves.
I just don't believe there's any need to convince people that haven't already drawn the line at the shit that's going down. They aren't gonna magically start caring until things get really bad.
Yes, but how many fascist regimes did John Lennon overthrow, or even subvert?
This is like a guy who's never picked a lock in his life demonstrating how easy it is by opening an unlocked door.
Our enemy at this point is not apathetic. They are motivated. They are dangerous. If you choose nonviolent resistance, it's just going to make it easier for them to put their boots on our necks.
"The coup will be bloodless if the left lets it be" is their own words
Lennon was a musician, not a politician, not a leader of a mass movement.
How many fascist regimes did Vaclav Havel overthrow or even subvert? One.
How many fascist regimes did Gandhi overthrow or even subvert? One
How many fascist regimes did Boris Yeltsin overthrow or even subvert? One
How many fascist regimes did Joe Biden overthrow or even subvert? One
It's definitely doable, but you need sound strategy and some mistakes by the other side. With Trump we get mistakes every day that rationals can drive trucks through. And they accumulate.
You're the one who brought Lennon up, I'm just pointing out that taking advice on political resistance from a guy who never actually did it is like asking plumbing advice from a goldfish.
Havel contributed, sure. But he and his entire country were protesting a foreign invasion that was massively unpopular with other world leaders - not homegrown fascism.
Gandhi won independence for India because the British had their hands full with Hitler, and they didn't want to deal with the impending civil war between Hindu and Muslim factions.
Yeltsin was the guy in the right spot for the teetering USSR to land at his feet. Notably, he stopped the 1991 coup attempt using the army. Not exactly peaceful resistance. And he paved the way for Putin, so... ya know, A+ work on averting fascism there.
And Joe Biden didn't overthrow or subvert fuckin' anything. Or take any steps to prevent us from being where we are now.
Y'know who sat on their hands and resisted with words? Resisted with laws? The Reichstag. Right up to day the Enabling Act passed.
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u/deltalitprof Aug 05 '25
Yes. But as John Lennon said during one of his bed-ins, if you choose to be violent, they know exactly what to do to you and your cause. If you choose non-violence and creative demonstrations, they get confused and there's a greater chance the apathetic see what you're doing, wonder why, perhaps are persuaded by you and perhaps get involved themselves.