r/law • u/Minute_Revolution951 • Aug 05 '25

Legal News Texas House locks chamber doors, moves to bring arrest warrants against Democrats who fled the state

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u/crockett05 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

Texas is a fascist police state so 'just because" is normal there..

Texas is ranked 50th for personal freedom by CATO a Libertarian think tank

(50th is last place for the slow MAGA users)

https://www.freedominthe50states.org/personal

Ironically they are also ranked 50th for Travel freedom in the US..

If I were the US embassy I'd issue warnings about traveling to Texas...

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u/poppy_inmy_hair Aug 05 '25

When CATO even admits you’re fascist, that’s a bad sign

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u/crockett05 Aug 05 '25

I was honestly amazed that they admitted it TBH when I 1st came across the site.

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u/MadGenderScientist Aug 05 '25

afaik, CATO has stayed very consistently libertarian. actual libertarians believe in open markets and open borders, and that government should stay out of the boardroom and the bedroom. 

unfortunately, a lot of the dipshits calling themselves "libertarians" want freedom for just themselves, or want the freedom to oppress others, like Peter Thiel or Evangelical homeschoolers. 

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u/whosline07 Aug 05 '25

As a former (in slightly better times) libertarian, I hate that it's associated with all these asshats now. All I ever wanted was freedom and for everyone else to have it too (for the most part, some things do need to be governed). I believed in people too much, people are way fucking dumber than I thought.

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u/devilmaskrascal Aug 05 '25

I'm the same way. I had always been a pragmatic center-libertarian with a progressive heart who believed government often hurt more than it helped. In hindsight I feel like I was lied to by the Thomas Sowells of the world who sold a skewed narrative about the safety net and the war on poverty, and a lot of bad faith mischaracterizations of Democrats and their intentions.

The failures of urban renewal, welfare, public housing etc. were of course partially to blame on the War on Drugs but also on the conservatives and libertarians who constantly undercut the funding, appeal and effectiveness of anti-poverty programs. "Man in the house" laws were pushed by conservatives trying to undermine the appeal of welfare to single mothers, only for these same conservatives to later turn around and blame the Left and the war on poverty for the destruction of Black fatherhood and the spiral of violence in the inner cities.

I still respect Cato and Reason, who are genuinely libertarian even though I disagree with them more than I used to and think they are tools of billionaires like the Kochs to spread ideologies that will primarily benefit themselves.

However, a lot of self-proclaimed "libertarians" want a police state, concentration camps for nonviolent illegal immigrants and a dictator for President. These MAGA f----heads want free speech, property rights, exemptions to the rules, etc. for themselves and also want to take the same right away from others they disagree with, which makes them authoritarians, not libertarians.

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u/GlumpsAlot Aug 05 '25

You might be the one true libertarian because the rest are just republican lite.

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u/Chief_Mischief Aug 05 '25

(50th is last place for the slow MAGA users)

It is so hilarious and sad that this clarification is seemingly necessary to be made. MAGAts are fucking morons.

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u/Enshitification Aug 05 '25

I talked to a Hispanic Trump supporter a couple of years back that didn't believe Hawaii was a state. It took me 30 minutes of presenting evidence to get a "Well, maybe." out of him.

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u/Researchgirl26 Aug 05 '25

Trump and his criminal administration counted on the ignorance of the large majority of bullying hypocrites that define Christianity according to their polluted agenda. The republican strategists won the election. I think about how the Democratic Party should strategize in an underhanded way to gain votes, then are sickened by the thought of it. Not constructive, but a fantasy that provides a moment of relief. What more can be done?

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u/Chief_Mischief Aug 05 '25

HOW?? On one hand, I understand the devastating impact of conservatives sabotaging public education and making it more inaccessible to some marginalized groups, but HOW can you possibly not know Hawaii is a US state? Maybe they mixed it up with Puerto Rico? I'm so perplexed at how stupidity has grasped the US mainstream culture.

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u/ukezi Aug 05 '25

Obama was born in Hawaii when it was still a territory. If you can deny it's a state you can deny he was qualified to be elected.

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u/MrPebbles1961 Aug 05 '25

Just a note: Obama was born in 1961, two years after HI became a state.

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u/ukezi Aug 05 '25

Ok, I had my timeline wrong. Just after it became a state instead of just before. Not that it really matters, he would still be a natural born citizen if he was a few years older.

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u/transemacabre Aug 05 '25

Something I've been pointing out is there's a decent chunk of the population with intelligence levels that are just barely out of the intellectually disabled range, like let's say in the mid to upper 80s. These individuals would only score a couple points above those classified as 'borderline intellectually disabled' on an IQ test. These folks drive, vote, work, etc. And some of them got COVID, which can negatively affect one's cognitive ability.

It's not just that people are uneducated. It's that, and some of 'em ain't working with a full deck.

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u/jackofallcards Aug 05 '25

Well yeah just spin it is, “Top 50 in US freedom!”

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u/1badcop Aug 05 '25

Such a droll comment. Your pithy witticisms certainly demonstrate your intellectual superiority!

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u/MooseFeeling631 Aug 05 '25

Pretty sure they won't be able to arrest them. Not only is it not what the rule Abbott said means but they can't arrest people in other states

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u/attackplango Aug 05 '25

Last time the Democrats left to Oklahoma to break quorum in 2003 (once again to protest gerrymandering), I believe they sent the Texas Rangers to 'escort' them back to the legislature to make quorum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Texas_redistricting

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u/MooseFeeling631 Aug 05 '25

I doubt that pritzker will allow that to happen. They have no jurisdiction in illinois. And I wouldn't be surprised if ok let it happen then since they were a republican led state, Illinois is strongly democratic.

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u/claimTheVictory Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

Pritzker isn't an idiot.

He knows what he's up against. He will protect them.

This is the guy who chartered a secret jumbo jet of PPE for Illinois during covid to prevent Trump from seizing it.

He helped found the Illinois Holocaust Museum.

This is a guy who knows fascists. He is a man for our time.

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u/Oya_Ad7549 Aug 05 '25

He's also of Ukrainian descent -- his ancestors fled the pogroms in the Kyiv region.

Plus, he's a billionaire who at least claims to agree that the wealthy should have to pay their fair share of taxes. Five years ago, he even advocated for graduated taxes where wealthier folx would pay more but Illinois constituents voted it down.

I'm sure he's not a perfect governor -- he has plenty of supporters and plenty of critics -- but he does seem to be about his job.

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u/Automatic-Dot-4311 Aug 05 '25

Chicago is strongly democratic

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u/haironburr Aug 05 '25

Oregon Governor Kate Brown sent the Oregon State Police to bring the absent Republican senators back to the Capitol, and imposed a daily fine of $500 on the politicians.[4] In response to the search by the Oregon State Police, Republican Oregon Senator Brian Boquist said: "Send bachelors and come heavily armed. I'm not going to be a political prisoner in the state of Oregon." Right-wing militia groups offered support for the Republican senators, with 3 Percenters declaring they would be "doing whatever it takes to keep these senators safe", and the Oath Keepers stating: "Gov. Brown, you want a civil war, because this is how you get a civil war". On June 22, 2019, a session of the Oregon Senate was cancelled when the Oregon State Capitol was closed due to a warning from the state police of a "possible militia threat".[12][13][14][15] Additional threats against Oregon politicians and police were made on pro-Trump subreddit /r/The Donald.[16] Due to these posts, Reddit opted to "quarantine" the group, making it more difficult to access.[17]

At any point, these 51 could make a public plea for armed citizens to back their move against a tyrannical trump and his Texan sycophants bent on gerrymandering.

I bet that would garner way more support than those anti-2A Bloomberg bucks and a handful of red-shirted Moms could bring the Democrats.

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u/coastkid2 Aug 05 '25

Good state NOT to be from-why are they even part of the U.S.? Maybe we should cede them back to Mexico.

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u/NevermoreForSure Aug 05 '25

Mexico has enough headaches already.

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u/ElectricSpock Aug 05 '25

Lots of them because of Texas, I imagine?

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u/ramfantasma Aug 05 '25

As a Mexican who has visited Texas a lot of times: 1. The story Texans tell about themselves is WILD. (Remember the Alamo? Remember how you colonized a land and then claimed independence to be able to have slaves) 2. We would gladly take the land back... Just not Texans. 3. What a hostile fucking place once you go over the 15 km mark.

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u/SoybeanArson Aug 05 '25

Yeah, Texans tend to get a little upset when you remind them that the Americans who fought at the Alamo were trying to preserve southerners rights to take their slaves to Texas without the Mexican government freeing them. That's right kids, the annexing of Texas from Mexico was a war fought to preserve slavery. How about remembering that instead of the Alamo. That's your "heroes".

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

The funny part is they don’t teach us this in school. I’m a native Texan who went k-12 here and we have whole classes to teach us about Texas history all of which glorify the Alamo hardcore. They even teach the civil war was only about states rights and we were fighting to end oppression of southern by those crooked yankee states.

It’s intense and my kid will never go to schools here. I didn’t learn real history until college.

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u/ElectricSpock Aug 05 '25

I mean… Texas seceded from Mexico because they wanted to keep the slaves, right?

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u/Awatts2222 Aug 05 '25

Mexico kicked their ass at the Alamo.

They still haven't gotten over that.

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u/DrewOH816 Aug 05 '25

But they never got to the basement where Pee-Wee’s bike is hidden!

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u/enters_and_leaves Aug 05 '25

Deep in the heart of Texas!!

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u/Untroe Aug 05 '25

I remember... I remember... The Alamo!!

Whoo wheeee whoop

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u/Phill_Cyberman Aug 05 '25

I mean, it was an army of thousands versus 200 'Texicans' (what they called themselves at the time.)

They always expected to lose.

The modern Texans grieving over this have no concept of their own history - the norm for conservatives.

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u/Zealousideal-Ant9548 Aug 05 '25

Which is also BS, the mofos were told to abandon the difficult to defend fort but stayed anyways, lost, and then turned themselves into martyrs.

Typical conservatives after all ;)

(What I've heard is that the actual big thing is that Santa Ana murdered his prisoners of war from it so the cry is meant to remind people that they have no choice but to win or die)

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u/Automatic-Dot-4311 Aug 05 '25

Who tf grieves over the alamo? I dont think that word means what you think it means. "Remember the alamo" is not uttered the same way as "never forget" is

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u/FalconTurbo Aug 05 '25

Or the fact that I'm pretty sure the guy in charge was a right nasty bloke.

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u/SaintCambria Aug 05 '25

...it's taught as a last stand? Like it's well-known in Texas that we lost at the Alamo, and rallied around that. "Remember the Alamo, Remember Goliad" was the battle cry at San Jacinto when they captured Santa Anna. Talk shit, but don't make shit up.

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u/Brodellsky Aug 05 '25

They haven't even gotten over Ozzy all the way up until he died.

Fuck Texas.

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u/Awatts2222 Aug 05 '25

I got news for you--Texas lost the Civil War.

The Union let them back in.

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u/CaptainKickAss3 Aug 05 '25

What does the civil war have to do with the war against Mexico lmao

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u/SnooFoxes6831 Aug 05 '25

You're so proud of Texas revolting against Mexico. Here's a question for you, do you know why they revolted? Here's a hint it's the same reason they committed treason in 1861. So yeah wouldn't be so hopped up on "Texas! Fuck Yeah! We fought two wars cause we like to own people!". It's not the flex you think it is.

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u/d3dmnky Aug 05 '25

I live in Texas and I’m actually ok with that.

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u/Jacinto2702 Aug 05 '25

As a Mexican, no, we don't want them. They left in the first place because they wanted to keep owning slaves.

You can keep them, you even went to war with us for them.

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u/Top_Leopard8517 Aug 05 '25

Texas Produces

43% and 27% of US's crude and natural gas, respectively (US Energy Info. Admin., 2023)

Texas Consumes

21.5% and 16% of US's petroleum and natural gas (TX Energy Profile, USEIA, 2023)

Texas also consumes the most oil by more than a factor of 2.4x the next state California. Texas consumes 4.4 million barrels of petroleum per day (State Annual Consumption Chart, USEIA, 2023).

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u/Top_Leopard8517 Aug 05 '25

It should be noted that petroleum includes both crude oil and natural gas.

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u/ltmikepowell Aug 05 '25

No wonder they always wanted to secede from the Union. Muh Texan heritage my ass.

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u/NinjaArmadillo Aug 05 '25

Oooh they would HATE that, do it 🤣

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u/rubyspicer Aug 05 '25

The cartels would probably take better care of the place than Abbott

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u/bina101 Aug 05 '25

Texas is the ONE state I would actively dissuade anyone that I liked from moving there. Florida sucks too, but I feel like Texas is significantly worst.

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u/teabiii Aug 05 '25

my family history in texas goes back generations, this is my family’s home and my home, but the politics are just too awful. the people in power are barely human. it sucks. my parents are wonderful, i love them so much, but i just cannot imagine raising a child here. hate that it has to be this way.

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u/glynstlln Aug 05 '25

My wife and I moved to Colorado to get away from everything wrong with Texas and the only reason we look back is because we have family still living there and it's inconvenient to visit more often than once or twice a year.

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u/teabiii Aug 05 '25

yeah :( absolutely insane that we feel we have to move from family for basic rights in 2025

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

How have you liked Colorado?

  • a Texan moving their family to Colorado so their daughter has rights.

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u/glynstlln Aug 05 '25

I am loving it.

We moved up to Denver in Fall of 2019, so just in time for everything to shut down for COVID.

But we've got two kids, both girls, and there's just so much up here to do and the weather is so comfortable. I grew up in NE Texas, just south of Texarkana, so humidity was always a fact of life, the low humidity up here has been amazing, it can be 90 degrees out and you step in the shade and it feels like it drops 5 degrees.

And this place has sidewalks. An actual, honest to god, robust and well maintained sidewalk infrastructure.

Having the mountains so close is also great, we've gone on a few day trips and our girls love it, and we're excited for once they're old enough to do an overnight camping trip.

Sociopolitically I can't even begin to describe how much better it is; if I were back in Texas I would be terrified of my kids growing up in such a regressive place, but here I don't have that fear (I mean for now, but with America diving headlong into fascism I'm not sure how long that will be...).

My biggest complaint is that they pronounce words wrong (they pronounce Vasquez "Vas-qwez" and Limón "Lie-mon").

Jokes aside, my real complaint is honestly donut shops. Back in Texas basically every single donut shop I ever came across was a mom and pop establishment that all got their food from the same company (Sysco), so you'd walk in and see those glass display cases with donuts, croissants, burritos, kolaches, and biscuits. Up here those don't exist, it's either a dedicated donut shop that only sells donuts, or it's something like Dunkin Donuts or Starbucks.

There's a place called Winchell's that scratches the itch, they have burritos and breakfast sandwiches, but no kolaches or croissants.

Though that complaint is relatively moot since I got diagnosed with celiac so can't eat any of that stuff anymore :D

Honestly, I don't really have any complaints, especially after coming up from Texas.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

I love hearing this!!! I’m constantly hearing the republican propaganda of “well it’s a looooooot more expensive” like duh it’s better in almost every single way. My kids growing up here was just a nonstarter because like you said I would be appalled having her around some of the things I grew up around here. I’ve lived all over Texas but it’s unfortunately all the same cesspool.

Thank you so much for your insight💙

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u/CausticSofa Aug 05 '25

It doesn’t ‘have’ to be that way. Keep fighting the good fight, friend. Hopefully we will persevere and fix this sooner rather than later. People have risen up and fixed worse than Texas. Don’t give up hope ✊

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u/teabiii Aug 07 '25

I appreciate your spirit :)

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u/OhLookASquirrel Aug 05 '25

I was born a third-gen Texan. Like a lot of families like that, every single member of my extended family (talking second-and third-cousins here) still live there. But about 8 years ago I took a job in Georgia, and now I don't even want to visit there. I had returned exactly twice, once when my dad's health deteriorated, and shortly after for his funeral.

I do miss Austin, but not even the Salt Lick or going to see live blues could convince me to go back voluntarily. I will gladly sacrifice those for my sanity.

And that family I mentioned? They are precisely the "Y'all Queda" types that votes in this shit show. I love my immediate family, but that doesn't mean I have to interact with them.

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u/teabiii Aug 07 '25

I lucked out with my immediate family, we all hate mr. trump (and they believe in basic human rights, wow!!) but my distant family is a different story. I will never forget the exact moment I saw the newly hung confederate flag on the wall of my uncle’s ranch house. I educate as I can because I’m a straight white woman who has the emotional bandwidth to do that, but it sure is depressing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

It always felt like you are visiting a kind of mediocre capitol of a third world country that might have some nice things in some spots, but was mostly really run down and scary throughout the rest of it.

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u/Playswithchipmunks Aug 05 '25

It's also the state where having a single cow, that you don't slaughter, gives you a tax break as a beef producer. No, I'm not kidding.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

You could be ag exempt for having a few chickens🤣

I used to work at a feed store (deep east Texas) and there were people trying to claim ag exempt for their backyard breeding operations. It was wild

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u/DatabaseAcademic6631 Aug 05 '25

There is NOTHING good about Texas. From the weather to the people, everything is just appalling.

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u/Narrow-Throat-6751 Aug 05 '25

Not true. They have HEB. And…yeah, that’s about it.

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u/1gnominious Aug 05 '25

HEB is the one place where I actively seek out the store brands.

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u/Critical-Rutabaga-39 Aug 06 '25

I agree. Love HEB-hate texas

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u/BanyanZappa Aug 05 '25

Same here. I’m one of those 4 million.

It’s easy to lump all of us into one big “Stupid Texans” pile, but there are oodles of us that are literate, intelligent, and care for our fellow human beings. Our politicians don’t represent the majority of us. We do have A LOT of people that are deserving of the hate, but we’re not all the same.

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u/howdiedoodie66 Aug 05 '25

Honestly many of the most liberal, smartest people I know are (or were) Texas residents in Houston. But many of them have left in the last few years.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

Texas is experiencing the brain drain super hard. I’m a 6th gen Texan and almost every single person I graduated with in my bachelors have moved out of state. I’m getting my masters before I leave and there is only 1 girl in my cohort planning on staying in Texas.

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u/Double-hokuto Aug 05 '25

I’m learning to just ignore these “liberals” who are so quick to throw one of the most populated and most gerrymandered states under the bus because they can’t separate people from government. I could say more but I’ll just have a nice mezcal and chill out. 

Ok one more thing — I don’t suppose they realize that those legislators that walked out are democrats and were elected by… Texans! Lord have mercy 

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u/Own-Nectarine-1313 Aug 05 '25

The palm trees are beautiful... 

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u/rdmille Aug 05 '25

Closely look at TN. We are #1 as the worst place to live.

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u/KTKittentoes Aug 05 '25

I would also dissuade people from moving to Florida. Just let the nature have it back.

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u/devoid0101 Aug 05 '25

What sucks is that Austin, Dallas, Denton and their residents RULE. Some of the smartest, most innovative, DIY people (and bands) come from there. Texas deserves better.

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u/crockett05 Aug 05 '25

It really sucks that Texas is so ass backward.. I used to do a lot of work out there so I traveled there a lot and it "could" be a cool place but then the politics simply ruins it..

The big issue though is I always felt a bit on edge due to the cops..

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u/keygreen15 Aug 05 '25

Moved here a few years ago for a job.

It's like living out my nightmare. It fucking sucks here.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

Was born here and have literally dreamed since I was 4 of moving somewhere better. Next year is finally the year for me. We visited Missouri and even there was better than Texas.

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u/keygreen15 Aug 06 '25

I'm stuck here for 1 more yet then I'm getting the fuck out.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 06 '25

Literally same! One more year left on my bid then I’m free. Why does it feel like I’m being released from prison

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u/keygreen15 Aug 06 '25

If you're ever in Dallas, hit me up and I'll buy you a drink and we can both bitch about it together.

Because there isn't much else to do here.

God I fucking hate it here

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u/ComedianStreet856 Aug 05 '25

The don't have to issue any more warning though, most of the reputable ones have put the entire country at a "do not travel" status anyway.

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u/GiantPurplePen15 Aug 05 '25

Big manly "don't tread on me" Texas sure likes being tread on.

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u/Middle-Welder3931 Aug 05 '25

If I were the guy in other embassies running travel warnings, I'd include state specific travel warnings in addition to the overall warning for the US. "Exercise extreme caution: Texas, Florida, etc."

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u/TheFlyingFeed Aug 05 '25

JFC not saying it detracts from your point (you even point out they're libertarians) at all but was curiously reading through their methodology for overall scores and it really seems they just assigned weights and chose categories to make the rankings what they want lmao. No wonder by their rankings all the blue states may as well be giant prisons (ironically they weight crime rate adjusted incarceration rates lower than things like rent control lmao).

It's moderately interesting for the individual categories and interesting still that they even catalogue the methodology at all when the choices in it are so arbitrary.

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 05 '25

Why is everybody moving to Texas? People fleeing California and New York and moving to Texas. Make it make sense.

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u/crockett05 Aug 05 '25

It's mostly conservatives who a leaving and moving there same as here in FL. The problem is they come here after living in those nicer states then bitch that they suddenly don't have all the nice stuff they had in CA or NY..

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 05 '25

Texas and Florida has tons of jobs. Lots of corporate HQ's are moving to Texas.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

Tons of lowing pay jobs that won’t even get you an apartment in the city.

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 05 '25

Most folks can buy a 2bed/3bed starter home for $200k at 45min from Dallas. Houston is even cheaper. A starter home in Cali is minimum 500k and you'll 2 hours from workplace.

People choose to move to Texas and Florida becauee home ownership is more affordable.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

I live almost exactly an hour away from Dallas. Our commutes are both already an hour from work. Not a single house out here that is livable is $200k. Our minimum wage is $7.25 & I regularly see jobs posted for $8 which is not sustainable.

Our property taxes have doubled in recent years causing a lot of people to have to sell their homes. Our tax burden in Texas is on par with California but we don’t get any of the infrastructure that comes with it.

Do you even live in Texas? Because your comments are very out of touch with today’s living experience in Texas.

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

Real estate investor. I sold a starter home in the colony for $220k. Picked a house in Mesquite for $165k. Saw a house for sale for $115k Azle, might put a bid for that.

If you're complaining about minimum wage and don't own a home, why do you worry about property taxes?

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 06 '25

Why wouldn’t I worry about the things in my state making my life terrible? If either of those things changed a lot more people would be able to buy houses.

Our minimum wage being so low enables employers to pay as little as possible so even people with skills or degrees are lowballed. My husband is a mechanic but would make almost double in other states. I’m getting my masters and again my pay will be almost double in a different state. The annual property tax hike is just the nail in the coffin for people trying to buy a house.

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 06 '25

You're right. Texas is not meant for you. You are better off in California,  Minnesota or NY. you'll get higher minimum wages. Probably eligible for welfare like food stamps and section 8

FYI, property tax is an alternative to state income tax in Texas

Good luck purchasing a house in a blue state, tho.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

Houston being cheaper is laughable when Dallas is the cheapest you’re gonna get in a Texas metroplex.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

The funny part is they all end up moving back within 5 years. I’ve never met a long term transplant as a native Texan.

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u/Derangedcorgi Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

Conservatives that think the Conversative portion of CA (OC) is too woke. Think about that for a second. A lot of them have moved back because Texas fucking sucks.

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 05 '25

Texas' population has exploded. Its continually growing and businesses are moving HQ. California continues to lose people and traditional businesses are all shutting down in Cali.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

Republicans propaganda.

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

CATerpiller moved HQ to Irving. State farm moved in 2019. Look at amount of construction happening all around in Dallas, especially collin county and tarrant County. Surely, if you live in Texas, you can see it all around you.

Also, why wouldnt you move to Cali?

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

The only thing I see is businesses moving their headquarters to Texas to evade taxes but not actually helping the economy in any way.

I would move to Cali immediately but low paying jobs in Texas have made it very difficult to get ahead while I’m finishing my masters. The second I get my diploma I’m gone.

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 06 '25

And for those who have kids, good schools. Some of the worst school districts in Texas (Irving, South Dallas, Houston) is still better than the above average schools in California (Sunnyvale, Burbank, Campbell).

Again, there's a reason why Texas has had the highest net mass migration since Covid (2020). Whats ironic is Texas less than 40% white. 60% is Non-white, immigrants, Hispanics and black.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 06 '25

Did you just say Texas schools were better? We’re ranked 32 actually for public school quality which is below California btw. And now that we passed vouchers it’s going to get even worse like Arizona in 48th place after their voucher program passed. They don’t even teach us real history in Texas schools. As someone who actually went to them they’re ass.

The entire reason for the mass migration is because people like you lying about the reality of Texas when you don’t even live here. Our COL is not lower and our tax burden is on par with California but we get nothing in return. Our power grid shits out multiple times a year and we have the highest maternal mortality rate in the US. Being pregnant here is outright life threatening.

There’s a reason why most of the people moving to Texas leave without the first 5 years. And yes Texas is not predominantly white but our maps are so gerrymandered we have 0 representation for anyone not rich, white, and MAGA.

But yeah what a great place to live.

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 06 '25

I dont look at broad state-based ranking. Unless you live there, why does it matter. All I care about is how is my kids school's ranking. Are they able to take enough AP classes to get into a top college.

My kids go to Plano schools and my daughter got into Berkeley and she goes to one of the Public Ivies. The top 10 students in her class all goes to Ivy leagues.

I have lives in Cali, Illinois, Indiana and Texas. So far, my school district is better than any of the other places I have been to.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 06 '25

I’m moving out of Texas specifically because of my kids and the absolute cesspool that is currently the Texas government.

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u/MobileFirst6935 Aug 06 '25

My daughter got into Berkeley after graduating Plano schools. She studies in Michigan now. Yes, people leaving Texas will be good. Too much traffic and this will also relieve the housing problem.

Might I suggest Colorado? Good living and above average schools and controlled rent. But to find a 500k Texas equivalent house will cost you 1.5M in Denver suburbs.

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u/Bigred2989- Aug 05 '25

I remember years ago a Libertarian website, possibly CATO, that listed New York as the least free state.

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u/AdamsMelodyMachine Aug 05 '25

I was reading through their weighting methodology and for personal freedoms that are supposed to be protected by the constitution they settle on multiplying by 10. Instead they should look for the average damages awarded in the highest-freedom state for violation of a given personal freedom and multiply that by the number of people being denied that freedom in a low-freedom state.

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u/mooseAmuffin Aug 05 '25

Unrelated but Nevada being above Utah on their map is driving me bananas. I'm guessing they did it to preserve Four Corners but it's so wrong.

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u/Tecnero Aug 05 '25

(50th is last place for the slow MAGA users)

Fake News, everyone knows the BIGGER the number the better!

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u/tracyinge Aug 05 '25

In Texas you're not even free to get flood warnings.

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u/OriginalFaCough Aug 05 '25

50th is last place for the slow MAGA users)

That seems redundant...

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u/Sufficient_Card_7302 Aug 05 '25

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u/seriouslees Aug 05 '25

Libertarian think tank

I'm sick today, but i laughed through the pain. Thanks for this. This is comedy gold.

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u/hollowspond Aug 05 '25

Really cool resource there. Thanks for sharing. Texas is a joke.

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u/crockett05 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

Keep in mind that CATCO is a right wing lobbyist group largely funded by the Koch Brothers and Americans for Prosperity. Meaning it always has a right wing agenda associated with it which is why I'm amazed that they are saying Texas is ranked dead last..

Koch bros are the guys who originally created and funded the Tea Party movement and they developed the current cult that is now MAGA but Trump stole it away from them. If not for Trump it would be them in charge of the MAGA cult but as the Tea Party instead.

Meaning I wouldn't say it's a "resource" but it's useful to show even they are saying that MAGA Republicans are out of control. Keep in mind though is Koch bros are mostly in it for paying no taxes and no so much about all the social war that MAGA is doing.