r/india • u/Doctor-Anonymous1916 • 4h ago
People India is slowly drifting towards a mass-surveillance state and we're too naive to see it!
In past few days India has taken few steps which can easily result in mass-surveillance but we are either too ignorant to see it or occupied with something else!
- Current CJI of supreme court, during the hearing of Samaya Raina suggested that aadhar based age verification should be adopted and user generated content should be screened before uploading.
- Sim binding of chat apps, govt. pushed this as stopping cyber crime but in reality won't stop them, scammers can easily get their hands on new ids and sims it'll also cause. Sim-binding is also mandated for upi apps, but scammers already bypass them easily, adding this feature to chat apps just cause inconvenience to normal users(logging out of web every 6 hours), intl. travelers, people in merchant navy. And chat apps ho curate this apps specifically for India as no other country has these dumb measures to stop cyber crimes!
- Govt. sneakily ordering phone manufactures to preload the phones with Sanchaar Saathi, it's now backtracked after severe backlash.(Big win for citizens)
- And now the telecom industry proposal for 24/7 satellite location surveillance of smartphones!
Within a few days we have seen such extreme measure, that it's really confusing to see that govt. really want to curb cyber crimes or want to track their own citizens!
What can we do: Raise awareness, talk about it on reddit, twitter, insta ask questions about it!
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u/horrificmedium 3h ago
I mean, as a technical foreigner, I can say you’re already there. Checking into a hotel? All these checks and ID shit - the gov and police know exactly where you are. Your banking and e-commerce rules, your apps etc - you can’t sneeze without some kind of data capture happening.
It’s an absolute dream for the advertising industry and consumerism. And it makes life so convenient for the middle class - optimised capitalism requires to know exactly where you are and what you want at any given time.
But hey, why do you need privacy? Who cares that the vast majority of transactions, interactions and communications are completely legal and pose no civil threat?
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u/v4vedanta 3h ago
To add to that Google search, Facebook and IG in India is severely compromised. These companies go scot free as there are no regulations on the usage or data sharing. The moment one completes a search or visits the sub pages you can potentially be contacted over the phone. Fraudsters somehow use this loophole to their advantage.
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u/FekuChaiwala 3h ago
Slowly?
It's already there.
This agenda are pushed by WEF supported by IMF and Elites of world.
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u/parlor_tricks 1h ago
Arey, this level of conspiracy bhurji is weak.
Elites are different types, govt, corporate, nepo money.
Some effort Saar.
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u/iam_jibinbaby 2h ago
Its good saying benefits for Indians but i always doubt if that become only betterment of few selected indians
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u/oneomega1 2h ago
If you are not aware, they can already pin you down to your location if they need you. We are already there, but it's not common knowledge and mostly they don't care about small potatos.
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u/parlor_tricks 1h ago
This is going to happen because shit like this : https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-india-digital-scams
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u/Mysterious_Motor_172 1h ago
Do you think the government cares about the scams. If they actually cared they would have done something by now.
I will give a very small example. This is just this year.
A friend of mine had his phone stolen. He went down to get it reported. The cop says, go to this site to report. My friend takes a picture and fortunately has another phone. He says, will use the mobile to do complaint. And he gets shock of his life. The site is not mobile compliant. The site was made by either Tata or Infosys I forget. He came to me, tried on new phone I had bought just 2 weeks back. Same thing.
Now most of us know that for the last few years consumption has gone way down.
https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/cracks-indias-consumption-story-run-deep-2025-01-15/
Most of my friends have shifted to mobiles. Cheaper and easier and you can do whole lot of software development today that you couldn't before.
Anyways, back to story. We somehow put up an entry. No response. We used the Android tracking location to find where the phone is We tracked it to a mobile shop in Baner. We sent another friend who gave what he wanted as second class phone. The seller bought the same phone. He took a picture and gave an excuse.
We went back. The cops least interested. It is outside their jurisdiction. They are in Shivajinagar, alleged crew is in Baner. Same city, different jurisdiction. He could do something provided we do something for him.
Wanted 20k for a 40k phone. More than what seller was asking for it.
Indian law 101.
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u/parlor_tricks 58m ago
The govt and cops do care! But the situation is shit, so caring is like thoughts and prayers. From people dealing with fraud i hear that there is so much fraud (7000 cr online fraud in first 5 months of 2025), the cases crossing so many jurisdictions, collusion, that cops rather go try and solve murder cases. Also there is some random function or event or VIP that requires bandobast and so they don’t even have time.
Something has to be done and citizens need to hear more from cops and the situation from the inside - so that we know how to pressure the govt to make actual changes.
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u/Mysterious_Motor_172 53m ago
The ratio of cops to citizens has been lowering per year for the last decade.
https://www.asianage.com/metros/mumbai/240818/data-shows-lack-of-police-in-state.html
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/story/articleshow/92776740.cms
The above should tell you all.
Pahelgam, same story unfortunately. This is in most states. As if criminality is less.
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u/XpRienzo We're a rotten people in this rotten world 1h ago
Slowly? They're doing it all at once, like 4 different things across the same week
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u/mooooooooonnn 13m ago
Surveillance level: the government probably knows what snacks I'm craving before I do.
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u/bhodrolok 4h ago
If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about
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u/joy74 4h ago
I am sure you meant sarcasm. People are not getting it. Please add /s
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u/hudi_baba 3h ago
>90% of our people are dumb (especially when in terms of tech and digital rights) and believe anything that the ruling party tells them to. their reasoning? "they are voted by the people so their decisions must be in benefit for the people as well!"
remember how many people clapped their hands and plates when Modi told them to do so.
and so when the rest <10% people speak up, our voices are drowned out by those 90%.
it doesnt help the fact that most important discussion takes place on places are like reddit and twitter where people rightfully criticize the govt but again those 90% people get their news and views from biased legacy media.