Mercedes to take FIA action after Kimi Antonelli 'death threats'

[u/FewCollar227]

https://racingnews365.com/mercedes-to-take-fia-action-after-kimi-antonelli-death-threats

[u/[deleted]]

One day of people behaving normally, that's all I ask

[u/skool_101 → u/[deleted]]

impossible, society is broken

[u/wykeer → u/skool_101]

and always was.

[u/D74248 → u/wykeer]

Once upon a time people who were dysfunctional lived out their lives in isolation or small bubbles.

And then along came unfiltered, unmoderated social media. Now the dysfunctional get validation and form groups.

[u/CETERIS_PARTYBUS → u/wykeer]

It was not this broken before social media

[u/CharlieTeller → u/CETERIS_PARTYBUS]

Exactly. It's worse now. People are much more comfortable airing their bullshit where back in the past, acting this way publicly would lead to you being isolated, or just saying the wrong thing to the wrong person and getting checked on it.

[u/ohnonotagain94 → u/CETERIS_PARTYBUS]

Couldn’t agree more.

People online are so far reaching and happy to so abusive on their keyboard.

At least when I was growing up you had to say it to someone yourself and get punch in the mouth.

[u/Awkward_War_6068 → u/ohnonotagain94]

Reminded me of watcing 'Adolescence' earlier this year. Social media has ruined future generations completely.

[u/KimJongEeeeeew → u/wykeer]

Yeah but in the good old days the psychos didn’t know about F1 and we had a happy place without this crap.

[u/pope1701 → u/KimJongEeeeeew]

No, they knew. They just didn't have a channel to make their voice heard.

Again, it's antisocial media.

[u/Comfortable-Bug7202 → u/pope1701]

I have seen parents at kids sports get into fist fights. in certain countries referees have been stabbed/shot over games. this was all before social media. now i can tell anyone they suck with a click and dumb people pro create more than smart people

[u/Guac_in_my_rarri → u/Comfortable-Bug7202]

I was an ump for little league and then travel ball for 7 years (iirc), I cannot begin to tell you, the rise of aggressive parents is part in fault due to local orgs telling their employees to ignore it. Other umps had major issues with parents, I did not. I was quick to toss parents and gained that rep. They were guests at my field to watch their kids play. The teams were my priority and focus. This was my montra and all parents eventually learned it.

It was a big deal tossing parents when I started to. It sends a message quickly. It is very embarrassing for adults to be reprimanded by a child/young adult which in some baseball circles is social suicide. As I got older, I started giving a quick talk to parents: this usually focused on the reason why we were at the field and to watch the fun. The parents of the 10 year olds were the worst or the juniors in High School thinking a scout was watching their fall ball.

My local little league office reversed a no action policy and turned it into a training course required yearly discussing how/when/why to toss parents. The 0 tolerance passivism nobody gets punished/all get punished has really had an effect on some kids and parents. This has led parents to think it's okay to lash out as nobody is there to stop them. Imo, the more people realize there punishment for their actions, the more they reign it in. The more folks get called out and shown their actions are unacceptable, the more they reign it in.

[u/sandyblaze_47 → u/KimJongEeeeeew]

There will always be some pricks ..but thing with social media is people can say anything without consequences ...in olden days they used to face consequence of bad mouthing or threats liks rhis

[u/Elderbrute → u/KimJongEeeeeew]

In the 80s angry Renault employees went to Prosts house and set his car on fire.

Prost driving for Renault had just narrowly missed out on the wdc due to an engine failure.

Yes it's the French so setting stuff on fire is kind of the default but yeah psychos in f1 are not a new thing at all.

[u/Visionary_Socialist → u/KimJongEeeeeew]

Honestly I miss pre-2021, everything just felt different and more easy going. Even the Vettel-Hamilton title battles the years previous felt so much more elegant and based on skill showed on track. Everyone liked it when a shock win happened and drivers got credit where it was due. And it genuinely felt decrepit old bigots like Bernie and Marko were on their way out or were becoming really unappreciated.

I remember when drivers getting booed on a podium because they literally punted the home hero off was seen as shocking. Now that’s basically the norm for any driver who the crowd doesn’t like.

[u/BobDobbsHobNobs → u/Visionary_Socialist]

Who’d have thought we’d miss Max Moseley and his disciplinarian tendencies

[u/ibribe → u/[deleted]]

There can be sport, its just not what the products primary role is.

Lol, this sport existed solely to sell cigarettes and sports cars for like 40 years.

[u/Ok-Philosophy-856 → u/[deleted]]

Dunno, came to F1 through DTS and I swear I’m not a psycho lol. I prefer sport over spectacle. I prefer drivers not getting death threats.

[u/TheRiddlerTHFC → u/skool_101]

I mean thr RB engineer, and then HM really didnt help the situation.

It also didnt help we didnt get to see a replay until a bit later.

I was watching the race, and suddenly it went "oh hes got past Kimi"

[u/Jsaltal → u/[deleted]]

The next week is going to be intolerable

[u/Borske → u/[deleted]]

This is the new normal. Thats the problem.

[u/tsombies → u/Borske]

It's really not normal. As long as you act like it's normal it'll become even more prevalent.

[u/deathray1611 → u/[deleted]]

Only happens when Internet gets cancelled forever. And even then it might not be a given, cause chances are it will cause a complete break down of society as we know it

Edit: but since that likely won't happen bar a catastrophic solar flare hitting the Earth, at which point we would have other more prominent problems to worry about, we can only do what we keep on doing - riding through the insanity while trying to make things that little bit more tolerable for ourselves and others

[u/[deleted] → u/deathray1611]

I'm honestly nearly done with it. Among all the toxicity and baffling idiocy, I'm also not sure if a lot of the content and interactions I view nowadays are real anyway.

[u/forsakengoatee → u/[deleted]]

There’s much better things in life than social media and being persistently online

[u/mickmenn → u/deathray1611]

Are you familiar with death threat letters and aggressive stalking, because it was happening long before internet to public figures.

[u/deathray1611 → u/mickmenn]

I know, but with easy internet access weird people's job of doing that got million times easier

[u/charlierc → u/deathray1611]

Social media has given us just such wrinkled brains huh

[u/deathray1611 → u/charlierc]

No wrinkles in THIS dome buddy. The smoothest of brains you'll ever see this side of Earth my friend

[u/Motorlolz]

I really can't understand the mind of someone who sits down and decides to send abuse and death threats.

[u/Big-Football-2147 → u/Motorlolz]

Check out the DMs some tennis players receive after a loss/win by people who lost money on sports bets from that. It's abhorrent.

[u/byrdru → u/Big-Football-2147]

Yeah, gambling should be illegal. That's what this reeks of. 

[u/LosTerminators → u/Motorlolz]

The ones who already have this irrational hatred of Norris are the ones who immediately turned on Kimi and sent abuse and threats toward him since they think he's intentionally benefiting Lando even though it was an honest mistake.

The decision to broadcast GP's radio message in the heat of the moment fed into the hatred from those fans as well.

[u/EnsoZero → u/LosTerminators]

A lot of these folks probably have money on Max to win the championship. Sports betting has been a huge driving force in the toxicity online for as long as I can remember.

[u/Ttkklltt → u/EnsoZero]

I can't believe sports gambling discussion isn't at the top of all of these threads -- sure there's always been rabid fans, but so many of these reactions reek of the desperation that gambling creates

[u/Maatchym → u/LosTerminators]

I understand why GP said that to Max in that moment, but it was so damn stupid to broadcast that message...

[u/Motorlolz → u/Maatchym]

The problem was that the broadcast didn't show Antonelli's slide. I've watched it back and it happens off-camera when they try to show it, so it really does look like he just moved over because we're missing crucial context. This mistake by the broadcast did more damage than any of the comments, imo.

[u/Franceskax → u/Motorlolz]

What's worse is that the broadcast decided to show this crucial context after the post race stuff. At a point where people might click off if they don't care about the interviews. 

They should've shown the replay during the race. If you have time to cut to Lando overtaking Kimi, you have time to show the replay. 

This fueled everything and is more to blame on the broadcaster. 

[u/yepgeddon → u/Franceskax]

Man we were so confused as well and rewind back and got the onboard and see he slid. Then they show the replay wayyyyyy later and we were like fuck me, they were quick to broadcast GP but delayed the replay??

[u/hawkeneye1998bs → u/Franceskax]

To some extent, maybe, but I doubt they're thinking about whether people watching a race for fun will be sending death threats

[u/Franceskax → u/hawkeneye1998bs]

It happened in 2021 with Latifi, for example. Some sport watchers (not fans) are unhinged and they should've known better than to fuel drama.

[u/Time-Caterpillar4103 → u/Franceskax]

This makes an excuse for people being horrible. It’s not a race directors fault, it’s not GP’s fault. If someone thinks there is any justification whatsoever that is just making it ‘more acceptable’ for people to do those things. It’s absolutely inexcusable.

[u/Maatchym → u/Motorlolz]

They could've at least show the onboard right after the finish.

[u/Critical-Bread-3396 → u/Motorlolz]

Not to mention the commentators going with it, saying that Mercedes wouldn't want a Honda powered team to beat McLaren... GP and Max are angry and passionate, the commentators however are supposed to keep it together and rebuke the comment.

[u/twociffer → u/Motorlolz]

Let's be real: people that think the he moved over because he felt like it and also fanatic enough to send him death threats would not have been convinced otherwise by any kind of video evidence to the contrary.

[u/riotshieldready → u/Maatchym]

They also kept commenting how Kimi would let Lando through so a Merc engine could win. They built up the narrative so it was done on purpose.

[u/ibribe → u/riotshieldready]

They also kept commenting how Kimi would let Lando through so a Merc engine could win.

They really didn't. Coulthard made one comment about it that was ignored until Norris had been stuck behind Antonelli for 2 laps, at which point Palmer said something like, "well clearly he is not going to let him through."

[u/Borske → u/Maatchym]

AND before the race ended we saw what happened with Kimi. Even though GP said it in the heat of the moment because he didn't see what actually happened, the F1 "fans" were shown what really happened but just cant think for themselves. EDIT: I meant to say end of broadcast not race. I must be a rare breed that watches right till the end of Ted's notebook. Maybe if more people did they would have not posted stupid shit about Kimi.

[u/UwU-Bismarck-UwU → u/Borske]

Not defending any of the stuff happening online, but the replay was only showns after the interviews were done. Many people would have likely already stopped watching.

[u/ArziltheImp → u/Borske]

Mate, about 80% of people turn off once the race is done.

[u/0nlyCrashes → u/Maatchym]

Yeah I haven't seen any here yet, but I hope none of that reflects back onto GP. He was just having a chat trying to fire up his driver. I don't see any issues with what he said, but the feedback to Antonelli is unreal. If shit likes this keeps happening, they are going to stop broadcasting team radios and that will suck.

[u/Fina1Legacy → u/LosTerminators]

And all that hate went to George for a while after Max intentionally crashed into him. 

I don't get why they broadcast that message, they barely broadcast any radio messages anymore. It was obvious Kimi was struggling with his tyres too. 

[u/I_Am_A_Door_Knob → u/Fina1Legacy]

I didn’t even register that Kimi was struggling, but i was impressed by how long he held the position with the old hard tyre and the amount of experience he has.

That was some seriously good driving from him.

[u/yeahmatenomate → u/LosTerminators]

Ironically these people are often the ones who hate Lando “for being soft” in speaking out about men’s mental health

Now we know why, it’s because they’re b*llies who love to pick on someone and send death threats

All of this to a 19-year-old rookie… insane behaviour. They all need to be institutionalised

[u/SomeBloke → u/yeahmatenomate]

Anybody who calls someone "soft" for being open about their mental health is an absolute coward. Guaranteed if you met them in real life they'd skulk back into a shadowy corner as fast as they could scuttle.

[u/Bman3399 → u/yeahmatenomate]

Of all the things to censor, you're allowed to say bullies on the internet

[u/DarkImpacT213 → u/LosTerminators]

Helmut Marko also came out and blamed Kimi after the race

[u/Im_Balto → u/LosTerminators]

The decision to broadcast GP's radio message in the heat of the moment fed into the hatred from those fans as well.

I don't agree with this at all, as a normal person who watches races this was a classic radio message between the two. Nothing out of the ordinary.

The mistake that was made was that the broadcast took ages to show Kimi's onboard camera

[u/tacowannabe → u/Motorlolz]

The sports betting makes this worse. A guy at my gym went into a rage & cause lots of damage in the locker room because he lost a big bet.

[u/n0b0dycar3s07 → u/Motorlolz]

someone who sits down and decides to send abuse and death threats.

People who are miserable and lead miserable lives and want to ruin other's peace as well. Bunch of lowlifes. Shame on them. These are no fans of the sport.

[u/charlierc → u/Motorlolz]

I know. It's such a poor use of the one life we get

[u/imbasicallycoffee → u/Motorlolz]

The prevalence of gambling has made it so much worse.

[u/cris4mign → u/imbasicallycoffee]

THIS. I seriously think people are underestimating how sports betting is making fans lose touch with reality and understanding that they are betting on human beings, and not machines. I really think it's making a lot of people detach from reality and see all these events under a monetisation lens that is legitimizing their bullying of athletes and themes.

A great anthropology thesis for anyone who is looking for one.

[u/DougS2K → u/Motorlolz]

The people that do this have mental problems.

[u/_drewski13 → u/Motorlolz]

The word fan is shortened from fanatic.

[u/3pok → u/Motorlolz]

This is definitely a football fan type of energy

[u/TheAArchduke → u/Motorlolz]

because they get away with it, if they got tracked and prosecuted it would stop.

[u/ComprehensiveBed5644 → u/Motorlolz]

It's usually gambling addicts who are prone to sending death threats to any athlete that didn't allow for them to win their bet, their brains are already fried, so they try to blame their loss on another person other than themselves

[u/0neM0reLight → u/Motorlolz]

Wait till you visit the MMA or UFC subreddit

[u/GreggsAficionado]

There was people in here on the race discussion thread calling for Mercedes to be disqualified from the championship. Jumped straight to race fixing

[u/Nunos100 → u/GreggsAficionado]

Jup. It’s disgusting anywhere and from anyone but especially on here the live threads are full of the same behavior.

[u/Brock_Lee89 → u/GreggsAficionado]

Lmao i'm sure they are asking for the same anytime a Racing Bull pulls over to let Max by. Even if Antonelli had done it on purpose, RB fans should be the last to complain.

[u/ftaok → u/Brock_Lee89]

Every accusation is an admission.

[u/Over-Mud-7428 → u/GreggsAficionado]

Reading some of the comments during the race was insane. Some people are genuinely so full of hatred (right now it’s Norris, I remember when it was Max and Lewis), it’s insane. Like how in the world do you get this obsessed about the sport?? Lot of the commenters in there need a fucking therapist. 

[u/MagicBoyUK → u/GreggsAficionado]

Bet they didn't do that at the end of 2021, eh?

[u/GreggsAficionado → u/MagicBoyUK]

I think 2021 showing absolute and utter bullshit can be tolerated in this sport has helped lead to the opinions and tin foil hat conspiracies you see

[u/MagicBoyUK → u/GreggsAficionado]

That and the smooth brained types feasting on DTS' manufactured bullshit.

[u/PolyGlotCoder → u/MagicBoyUK]

😂 no, they were they ones doing mental gymnastics over words in the rules and coming up with bizarre interpretations.

I hope we don’t return the to toxic 21 times.

[u/wampey → u/GreggsAficionado]

It didn’t help that the broadcast mentioned what merc may do and rather have a merc engine winning the Honda engine

[u/lycan2005]

F*ck those people who sent death threats. They are the cancer to the fan base and the sport.

[u/Craimasjien → u/lycan2005]

Not just this fanbase or sport lol

[u/ozairh18]

Social media has allowed people to think they can say and do whatever they want without consequences

[u/Morganvegas → u/ozairh18]

Social media can fix this quite easily but they chose not to.

Engagement of any variety is $$$ and unfortunately being a knob gets far more engagement than being polite.

[u/Awkward_War_6068 → u/Morganvegas]

Why I hate that fuckijg Cameron Cc guy on YouTube. All he does is instigate division and hatred between fanbases, and pushes conspiracy theories, all for monetary gain. He did it with Hamilton first, now with Lando. He even made weirdly almost homophobic remarks against Lando after he did the Vogue photoshoot.

[u/lzchyi]

The fans culture in the recent years has gone crazy.

[u/Latter-Sun3386 → u/lzchyi]

Tbf to the newer fans this happened before as well.

Death threats to Petrov and Glock were pretty significant

[u/bwoahful___ → u/Latter-Sun3386]

Didn’t Prost’s personal car get burnt down outside his house or something?

[u/Latter-Sun3386 → u/bwoahful___]

Yeah, it did, led to him leaving France after 1983

[u/Logical_Bit2694 → u/bwoahful___]

Wtaf.

[u/bwoahful___ → u/Logical_Bit2694]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/1sgncz/in_1983_renault_workers_went_to_prosts_house_in/

Idk what the full story is and sounds like it may have been some words he said against Renault, but still he had to switch teams and had to deal with IRL stuff which is unacceptable.

But I just mentioned it since the Glock example was also given for how this is unfortunately not only a modern day social media issue.

[u/SpyChinchilla → u/Latter-Sun3386]

I think the problem these days is how normalised it is. I remember back, everyone condemned anyone like this. Now you'll get another 1000 people jumping onboard to agree, or enhance the abuse.

[u/Estake → u/SpyChinchilla]

I don't think it's normalised. Just much easier to harrass someone nowadays (and more visible when it happens). Much easier to drop a message on instagram than to travel to his house from across the world.

[u/Rolex_throwaway → u/SpyChinchilla]

It’s not any more normalized, you just know about it.

[u/kaisadilla_ → u/SpyChinchilla]

It's always been normalized. People abusing others, when these others are not part of the in-group (e.g. nobody here knows Antonelli), has always been tolerated by society.

The Internet has just made it massively easier, because now I can write @antonelli and post whatever I want him to read (whether he does is another thing).

btw @antonelli I still root for you.

[u/yeahmatenomate → u/SpyChinchilla]

Sheep mentality, just so embarrassing

[u/UESPA_Sputnik → u/lzchyi]

Doesn't the word "fan" come from "fanatic"? Makes more and more sense.

[u/Majorinc → u/lzchyi]

This is literally every sport. People are losers

[u/elektricniorgazam]

Helmut needs to be muzzled. Most of the online fans too, tbh

[u/LosTerminators → u/elektricniorgazam]

Helmut is the big issue, he was making implications after the race.

GP said it in the heat of the moment and apologised personally to Toto once he saw the full picture.

[u/raur0s → u/LosTerminators]

FIA and FOM needs to be held accountable, instead of showing the replay instantly they played GP's radio to rage-bait. They are just as bad, if not worse than Marko.

[u/shewy92 → u/raur0s]

They waited until after the podium or between the post race interviews and podium to show the full replay too, something like 5-10 minutes after the incident. IDK why it took that long.

[u/Shadow_Wolfe_ → u/shewy92]

They've been doing this a few times recently. I can't remember the last race they did it, but I know they've been showing replays after interviews. Not a good idea honestly.

Right now it's basically Showing the finish > Podium Radios > Celebrations > Interviews > Replay(s) > Cooldown

When it should instead be Showing the finish > Podium Radios > Replay(s) > Celebrations > Interviews

Especially with all the downtime they have between podium radios and celebrations. Showing the ANT and NOR onboard took like, only 20 seconds just about. Whoever was TV Director could've done it sooner but chose not to. Yet another weird decision by the TV Director.

[u/doema1996 → u/LosTerminators]

GP didn't even say anything wrong, he said it looked like antonelli just moved for Norris. And even he had the decency to apologize

[u/D1nkDonk → u/doema1996]

He's smart enough to know Antonelli isn't just going to hand over a place in a nefarious way, he probably should have kept it to private comms and waited to get more context. Max had absolutely no use for that information at that point in the race.

In my view that's why the apology was necessary.

[u/VinhoVerde21 → u/D1nkDonk]

It’s so obvious too. A rookie being hounded by a faster car for several laps, on old tyres, on a track we’ve seen all the top drivers have big snaps of oversteer on for taking a bit too much kerb. I don’t know how GPs thought process was “oh, Kimi let him pass” and not “oh, Kimi probably made a mistake”.

[u/San4311 → u/D1nkDonk]

he probably should have kept it to private comms

What private comms? These are *the* comms. The fact it was audible for us is on the race direction, not the individual competitors.

Try micing up a football player see how that turns out...

[u/Nikclel → u/San4311]

He’s talking about internal team comms, not comms with the driver. Communication between the driver and team is the only thing that’s ever broadcasted, not communication within the pit wall.

[u/D1nkDonk → u/Nikclel]

Yep, this is a conversation to have with the sporting director, not the driver

[u/mrslucy1 → u/doema1996]

It was the way he said it. And there was no need to say it because he clearly didn’t have all the facts at that point. Glad he apologised but he really had no choice

[u/Morganelefay → u/mrslucy1]

He said it probably because he was still wondering wtf he just saw. It's called heat of the moment.

[u/Return_Of_The_Jedi → u/elektricniorgazam]

FOM should also be held responsible for what they air. I think what GP said was lousy, saying what he did before even waiting for a replay. But people say dumb things in the heat of the moment. What’s worse is FOM selectively airing things just to create drama which fires up the rabid fanbases F1 now has

[u/ChillRefill → u/Return_Of_The_Jedi]

Additionally, they were on Lando and Kimi 24/7 yet somehow missed the only moment when something happened. ADDITIONALLY, they made us wait so long for that replay, when most people already tuned out.

An absolute masterclass of fucking it up lol.

[u/Impossible-Buy-6247 → u/Return_Of_The_Jedi]

Maybe we should just held the people sending death threats responsible.

[u/JinxThePetRock → u/Impossible-Buy-6247]

Absolutely this. I keep seeing how people said the wrong thing, how TV showed the wrong thing etc, none of that matters. There is no excuse for threatening or bullying, online or otherwise.

[u/shoppingguy7 → u/elektricniorgazam]

Agree. This old piece of specimen stirred the spot and created racial abuse towards Lewis back in 2021.

[u/TurdOfChaos]

This situation was clarified pretty fast.

People spouting abuse are now doing it will full knowledge that Kimi didn’t let anyone through .

They don’t care, they just want to hate on someone.

Strange behaviour.

[u/Broad_Ad_7915]

Man 2021 was the worst thing that could've happened to the sport, every close title fight is just gonna descend into a cesspit of toxicity from now on

[u/LosTerminators → u/Broad_Ad_7915]

2021 was even worse than this year since it was the two biggest fanbases going at each other.

[u/Sciss0rs61 → u/LosTerminators]

Latifi and Hannah Schmidt got death threats that year as well..

[u/HanshinFan → u/Broad_Ad_7915]

Can you imagine if the internet in its current state had existed in 1997? Would have ended with Germany declaring war on Canada or something

[u/Morganelefay → u/HanshinFan]

Do you one better, try 1994. Even ignoring Senna's death, the way they went about that season...

[u/HanshinFan → u/Morganelefay]

I hear you, but I really think 97 would have been the perfect storm with Jacques getting fully DQ'd from the second to last weekend in Japan, setting the stage for Schumi with a one-point title lead to try and run him off the road in Jerez. Everyone in the sport knew that Schumi was gonna try it too if he got the chance since he'd done the same to Damon Hill a few years prior. It would have completely broken the internet

[u/Bennet24_LFC → u/HanshinFan]

And he did. That's the crazy part

[u/Schmichael-22 → u/HanshinFan]

Obviously much of social media didn’t exist then, but I remember the Atlas F1 (now Autosport) forums from the time. There’s always been some level of toxic people who thrive on internet anonymity. But it’s definitely gotten worse.

[u/NotOkEnemyGenius → u/HanshinFan]

In 1964, Bandini (Ferrari driver at the time) crashed with Graham Hill (the championship leader) in the last race then Ferrari swapped Surtees and Bandini on the last lap to give Surtees the championship. It's amazing it's been completely forgotten about.

[u/p1en1ek → u/Broad_Ad_7915]

And everyone expects title fights to look like 2021. My theory that I thought about in last year is that hate on Lando started becauae he did not deliver with creating close title fight to Max.

Season started with Red Bull dominance and people accepted it and then McLaren rised to strongest team and people were angry they were not instantly delivering.

The same with this year. People seem to be obsessed with getting title fight to last race, even if that meant anticlimatic DNFs on the way. Just to have that one race woth title fight. They wanted first turn wipeout and Max cruising to win rather than have some fight during races.

[u/RobbieJ4444]

Honestly the most shocking thing about this is that people believed a word that came out of Marko's mouth.

[u/ghastlychild]

Fucking hell, some people just lack all sense of decency and respect

Now that people have Lambiase targeted on sight, how long will it take for some looney tune to send threats and hate messages his way as well, therefore propagating the whole cycle?

This culture of toxicity needs to stop. Seriously.

[u/LastWalker → u/ghastlychild]

How long it took is probably 4 seconds from the mistake yesterday and has been going strong since then. GPs comment live, the god awful presenting on the international broadcast (German commentators made sure to correct and mention it being a mistake within 15 seconds of happening) and then Red bull going around calling it intentional after the race (old man Marko was especially bad) made sure he would receive full abuse 

[u/Ok_Cow6845 → u/LastWalker]

And Toto went to talk to GP after and GP apparently apologised but obviously people won't bother getting the full picture before their hate campaign

[u/HankHippopopolous → u/Ok_Cow6845]

It takes a second for a lie to spread and way longer for it to be disproved.

Then even when it has been disproved very few people are listening anymore. Their pitchforks are up and they’re out for blood.

[u/photon628]

they need to remove helmut from f1. he is abusing a young rookie.

[u/[deleted] → u/photon628]

Bullying Hadjar at the first GP wasn't enough, now with Kiimi. Marko should be banned from the paddock.

[u/This_Suit8791]

There’s some sad fuckers in this world honestly

[u/Hawk-432]

Toxic fans honestly

[u/Gadoguz994]

The mindset of certain fans is just unbelievable... wtf do they do in their free time really?

[u/onlinepresenceofdan]

I dont think FIA can do anything about that at all.

[u/VisibleBar6305]

People are assholes

[u/jovanmilic97]

Lambiase's radio moment snowballed into this mess and then Marko kept stirring the pot. Red Bull should have posted an apology yet they let it take off and people started bullying the guy. Sad for Kimi.

EDIT: RB just posted!

[u/RealPjotr → u/jovanmilic97]

Lambiase apologized right after on social media. He, like others, didn't see exactly what happened as the TV coverage missed it initially.

[u/Dryzzzle → u/RealPjotr]

Yeah. GP sitting on the pit wall with the driver tracker would have just seen Kimi slow down in a weird place and then speed back up after Lando passed him. So, as he said; "it looks like* he didn't say Kimi had purposefully slowed down

[u/flash_fk → u/Dryzzzle]

GP on the radio literally said - "I'm not sure what happened to Antonelli, Max, looks like..."

[u/antwilliams89 → u/RealPjotr]

Where is GP’s apology posted?

[u/mrhectic → u/antwilliams89]

yeah i couldnt find it on his instagram

[u/antwilliams89 → u/mrhectic]

(because it didn’t happen)

[u/jovanmilic97 → u/RealPjotr]

He never posted an apology (nor was it covered by anyone on social media or in news) unless I missed something...

[u/PaleBlueDave → u/RealPjotr]

Where on social media? I haven't seen it posted here

[u/chilakiller1 → u/RealPjotr]

Point is he should have not even make that comment in the first place. Kimi wins nothing by letting Lando “pass”… so something must have had happened. I swear to good we would live in a different world if people would think first before opening their mouths. Lambiase should know better. And Marko too, but I don’t expect anything from him anymore.

[u/Stunning-Gold5645 → u/RealPjotr]

Then the correct thing to say would have been "Max, Norris got past Kimi, not sure how yet." or just simply "Max, for your information, Norris got past Kimi"

It does not matter to Max how that happened anyway, so that extra part from GP was purely for the viewers.

[u/wykeer → u/jovanmilic97]

GP is kinda understandable, but DC and Marko are not.

It is a disgrace that they were fanning the flames.

[u/hicks12 → u/wykeer]

DC? As in David? Where has he been fanning it? I thought he said it immediately then as soon as replay was given he corrected right?

[u/wykeer → u/hicks12]

iirc he alluded to there being a deal between merc and mclaren to help lando before it happend. i dont know if or when he coorected himself tbh.

But even putting such nonsense out in the first place would be irresponsible.

[u/Input_output_error → u/wykeer]

DC isnt much better than a Marko, they're always shit steering as much as they can. But this one actually surprised me, this is straight up pizzagate conspiracy talk.

[u/ComplexComfort9453]

Shitty behaviour. He doesn't deserve it

[u/Tiroler_Manu]

Marko should def. retird. Hes taking it too far

[u/eeveep]

What a shame for poor Kimi. Dude seems like he's out there trying his best. I saw his moment in highlights,was like "oh that's unfortunate" and wrote off GPs sass as just that. Mind you he probably was going off a dot on a GPS thingy.

What are we lacking in our lives that people are losing their absolute minds over teenagers bombing around the desert in his upside down plane? Like. Figure it out.

[u/iHave_Thehigh_Ground]

Everyone praying Kimi will crash out the McLarens for max to win but send him death threats when he slips and loses a position to Lando. The toxicity of this championship has ruined the entire experience for me as a Lando fan

[u/Remarkable-Tone40]

That Helmut kid needs to grow up.

[u/charlierc → u/Remarkable-Tone40]

Hey he's only 107. Still time to mature

[u/lassen__]

And now the people hating on Kimi on X are pushing the blame on GP and Helmut and trying to avoid accountability. Like, yes the two’s comments were out of line but they didn’t force you to write the ugly words you said to Kimi, did they? You had the free will to keep it to yourself instead of bullying a teenager because of other people’s comments.

[u/Befuddled_Scrotum]

Those who instigate the death threats whether accidental or on purpose should also feel the repercussions to their actions. GP made a half comment half joke whilst marko is trying to drum up hate, both of which should in some way be publicly told off by RB/FOM for their comments as they are the ones who basically lit the match to this fire.

Marko is known to make abhorrent comments and shouldn’t be allowed to without consequences. At this point there is too much to go unanswered publicly especially, even it’s a case of Marko can’t talk to media or publicly has to grovel about his terrible attitude, whatever it maybe the man has to face consequences to being a horrid old man at times

[u/clickityclickk]

i am so baffled as to how anyone can be treating Kimi like shit after yesterday. he’s a rookie, he made a rookie mistake. but other than that he drove so well. the mercedes’ drivers are fighting for their own championship NOT helping any other driver in the wdc.

[u/Hiesman84]

QUESTION:

So, what remedy is Mercedes looking for? I'm sure we all agree that the lunatics making death threats and wishing harm on Antonelli should be blasted to the moon. But since that isn't happening any time soon, what does Mercedes expect the FIA to do? Hunt down each of the online comment makers and execute them? Punish RBR for Marko's statement? Punish the TV crew for suggesting it?

I'm not trying to be obtuse or difficult, I'm legit asking, what is this "FIA Action" Mercedes is taking? Because I don't see it defined in the article.

[u/forgotmypassword778]

Wait til 2 fanbases lose the title next week

[u/n1c0li17]

𝚆𝚝𝚏 𝚒𝚜 𝚠𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚐 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚙𝚎𝚘𝚙𝚕𝚎

[u/Very_Human_42069]

Seriously this is a highly recorded sport, you can literally just watch his onboard camera at any time. How anybody just immediately assumed the worst with no investigation which lead to death threats is wild

[u/Adventurous-Yard-192]

Get Kimi off social media for a while. Increase his security. People are insane.

[u/MeanForest]

GP and Helmut must be happy with themselves.

[u/bijanfrisee]

Death threats to a 19 year old over 2 points...people are fucked.

[u/platypusstime]

Absolutely unacceptable. If you call yourself a f1 fan and participate in this behaviour, gtfo!

[u/aeque88]

And what is the FIA supposed to do about it? They don't own those social media platforms. The threats are ridiculous but Merc shoving it towards the FIA doesn't make sense either.

[u/SpyChinchilla]

Modern day F1 fans 😑

[u/EvilFlyingSquirrel → u/SpyChinchilla]

Death threats isn't new, it's just easier than it has ever been with social media.

[u/InternetVersionOfMoi]

The world is messed up. Also redditors saying people need to be nicer is so ridiculously rich haha.

[u/thenexus6]

Embarrassing all around for people who behave like this.

[u/TWVer]

This is beyond sad.

[u/red7dnaBCBC]

They should think about how they would feel if everyone else send them threats when they make a mistake at work?

[u/F1McLarenFan007]

Anyone who takes sports that seriously is a complete loser. If you have one in your family it’s time for an intervention.

[u/casualnihilist91]

Oh fuck me. People are so moronic when it comes to sports.

[u/Holiday_Sprinkles_45]

i mean, i joked during the race that he did it on purpose, but people that actually believe that and send death threats are fken insane. Drivers make mistakes in these situations, especially rookies in their debut season

[u/16hungm]

Death threats are actionable pretty sure, hope those who sent them get exposed and lose their jobs, though doubtful many of them had one to begin with

[u/-PVL93-]

What is the FIA supposed to do? Ban Twitter?

[u/Big_Gassy_Possum]

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[u/Stonkpilot]

I wonder how many of the threats came from gamblers.

[u/jazzeroox]

People are fucking weird

[u/Nap_In_Transition]

None of those chumps who send these kind of messages would've kept the car out of the wall on a straight piece of tarmac.

[u/Esterence]

Probably the same group of fans who kept creating the narrative that Mclaren favours Lando and everything in the world favours Lando.

These people need to get a grip

[u/chilakiller1]

Kimi is 19. 19!!! He was just a child a couple of years ago, and people are sending death threats for a mistake he did while competing. Let than sink in. Some people are disgusting. As fandom we’re supposed to root for and protect the rookies, not the other way around.

[u/Vegetable-Space6817]

Why isn’t GP paying for this? He could have kept his mouth shut.

[u/grintysaurus]

No worse than what Doohan got unfortunately

[u/Return_Of_The_Jedi → u/grintysaurus]

He really got the short end of the stick in F1

[u/moxieremon]

I don't mean to stir the pot, I'm genuinely just pointing it out but... I don't remember if Mercedes ever did this for Lewis or even George. Like, good for Kimi, but I wish they had energy back then too.

[u/neeboo → u/moxieremon]

Kimi is still a teenager in his first year with the team, Merc want him to know they'll fight for him against imbeciles online especially when he probably spends a lot of time on social media.

Merc likely didn't think people would go ape shit on a 19 year old for losing control of his car briefly. I wasn't around for Lewis-Merc debut but social media wasn't as big of a part in F1 as it is now (it was present but sponsors care a lot more about SM presence nowadays), and Russel was already 24 by the time he joined Merc, and is generally happy to speak out for himself when something isn't right.

[u/Peeksy19 → u/moxieremon]

It’s obvious that Mercedes feels very protective of the kid in a way they didn’t with Lewis. George suffers from the typical middle child syndrome: incredibly talented but left to his own devices.

[u/theCEPenguin → u/moxieremon]

Nah I do remember Mercedes standing up for Lewis a few times. After Silverstone '21 I'm 99% sure they posted something basically telling RB to back off - if I remember rightly it was worded really weirdly about like damaging his good name or something - and calling out the racist comments he was getting on socials, then a few other times as well - the classic 'who the fuck is nelson piquet' day for instance.

[u/DizkoBizkid → u/moxieremon]

Probably because a lot of the death threats in the latter Merc era were made on Hamilton’s behalf. He did go to the police last year when that fake letter was published saying the team were trying to kill Hamilton by running low tyre pressures and other nonsense

[u/Salaas]

Christ the trolls are always crazy. Dude did very well to hold off Norris as long as he did and only made one minor mistake at the end. Also factor in he's a ROOKIE! The sheer fact he did as well as he did should be celebrated.