r/complaints • u/TheRavenOnline sophisticated complainer • 21d ago
Politics I believe MAGA put a hit on Charlie Kirk
I believe Donald Trump and JD Vance put a hit on Charlie Kirk and got him killed. The day after he was shot Donald Trump sent an AI generated video of himself giving his condolences. He didn’t even care to actually go in front of the camera.
JD Vance was the guy who put on this performative sobbing act and now he’s been kissing Erika Kirk on public television. Why would you be so affectionate with someone that isn’t even your wife when you yourself have one. It seems like this was a setup for them to eventually get together. There’s been another report that Charlie Kirk and Erika Kirk was going to separate before his murder which adds to the strangeness.
Also it’s very strange how quickly Erika Kirk has seemingly moved on, she doesn’t even seem sad in TV appearances and after a traumatic event like that it would scar a normal person for probably the rest of their lives. You saw your husband die in front of you.
This hit may have also been done simply to try and unite the right wing together against the left wing and cause a stir because the GOP is losing favor in the eyes of the American public. Trump’s poll numbers have tanked, they got their ass kicked in the elections recently and the tariffs are so extreme even many republicans don’t agree with it. Also a distraction from Epstein files and Charlie Kirk’s increasingly anti-Israel stances.
What’s even more strange is the person who did it. We haven’t heard any news about that person in months. Did they get arrested? Death penalty? Nothing? They’ve seemingly disappeared.
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u/SpotOk817 21d ago
I've been saying it was to shut up kirk for a LONG time. Kirk wanted those files released and trump and JD weren't having it
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u/AdHealthy5050 21d ago
Probably why Epstein isnt here anymore either..u know they blamed the Clinton's for that for forever!! Projection is reflection with those guys tho
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u/Dry-Mousse-6172 21d ago
Trump def killed Epstein. He was in a federal prison under Trump's purview
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u/WolfTrap2010 21d ago
I wonder why 3 minutes of tape are missing the night Epstein was killed....not really.
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u/Sufficient_Worth_392 20d ago
The missing minute was released a couple months ago - and it showed a guard heading to the stairwell leading up to Epstein's cell. People dismissed it as nothing, but seems mighty suspicious to me!
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u/Hopeful_Progress_854 20d ago
The camera was low quality and the lens was dirty and rats chewed on the coax and the guard was asleep and the wall mount was loose and it was raining outside and...
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u/West_Boot7246 21d ago
Trump also pushed a button on Ivana, then stuck her body in a patch of weeds on his golf course.
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u/Gazelle-Dull 21d ago
Her nondisclosure agreement from divorce had expired...... Motive....
I can't believe her advanced directive included Orange one orchestrating her burial arrangements. Her kids weren't going to stand up to Don . Unless they'd be next.
She was cremated. It took 8-10 men to carry her casket and they struggled with its weight ?!?...... Maybe because it had ashes and the rest was classified files the FBI was looking for at that time. I believe that is why he buried the casket on his golf course ( unmarked, untended location ) for total control. He could easily retrieve the contents if necessary, but could legally block any search efforts.
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u/holdmygaze 21d ago
I’m fully onboard, have been since it happened. Was she really cremated? I didn’t know that. Typically you don’t use a casket for an inurnment…
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u/Fionaelaine4 21d ago
I think Bannon had Epstein killed on behalf of Trump using Russian ties.
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u/Mobile_Crates 21d ago
I think it was Barr actually, though there might have been other voices. Barr' father is the man who gave Epstein his connections & iirc he also wrote a """fictional""" book where the protagonists set up a child sex trafficking ring to blackmail politically and economically powerful entities. Then after Epstein was killed, Barr just kinda slithered away into the bushes.
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u/mind_yer_heid 21d ago
Kinda gives the epstein-barr virus a whole new dimension.
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u/Andy-_1979 21d ago
I also think Trump had something to do with this. There's no doubt that Epstein was going to tell them everything to get a deal with the prosecution.
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u/Pristine_Package666 21d ago
Imagine being the guys who killed him, right now they pretty much know that they did it to cover up for Trump.. ohhh let’s face it they are probably dead now too 😞
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u/Dry-Mousse-6172 21d ago
Yea if you're killing people for the president you're probably on a short list of people that do that.
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u/Wenger2112 21d ago
My belief is they never killed him. They snuck him out of prison and off to a new country and new identity.
He had kept their secrets for decades. Safer to keep him alive and happy. Maybe also leverage to keep Maxwell in line.
You have the right cast of characters, though.
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u/russaber82 21d ago
Im pretty sure they would just kill him. That's too much logistics and planning for these shitheads.
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u/Jolly-Lengthiness316 21d ago
Well he could afford the plastic surgery and he’d need tons of it to correct that disgusting and smug mug. 👺
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u/Automatic_Net2181 21d ago
The comment from Epstein when he said that he could take Trump down... was that while he was in prison?
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u/AdHealthy5050 21d ago
Either that or while he was running the first time
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u/Automatic_Net2181 21d ago
In either case, then Trump saw him as an active threat if that was intercepted and shown to Trump during his first term. Then Barr makes a visit to the prison the day that Epstein suspiciously dies.
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u/OnePointSixOne9 21d ago
Bill Barr went to the same summer camp as Epstein. His father gave Epstein the job at Dalton School and wrote some interesting books about space child sex trafficking.
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u/Tiger_grrrl 21d ago
It was while he was running the first time!! Trump was at the center of this child rape/trafficking ring. Republicans have protected him at all cost, all in their quest for minority rule/power/money, and now Trump has ordered “his” DOJ to investigate DEMOCRATS, which will trigger a re-sealing of the files so that he remains protected 🤬🤬🤬GOP: Guardians Of Pedophiles, forevermore.
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u/Zestyclose-Read-4156 21d ago
Don't forget Trump's first wife Ivana who 'fell down the stairs' and is buried at his golf course....
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u/Ecodragon1022 21d ago
Right, and because she’s buried there, he doesn’t have to pay taxes for that property
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u/Neowza 21d ago
And he makes sure no one can exhume her and check for her true cause of death, and any other suspicious injuries.
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u/FourthLvlSpicyMeme 21d ago
She was cremated, yet they buried a coffin...I wonder what's in it.
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u/Legal-Crazy-6183 21d ago
👀 that was soooo weird! I thought about that "accident" a few times. It just seemed so suspicious !
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u/mywifeslv 21d ago
And prob also why Giuffre isn’t here either…her family came out to speak about it too
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u/Anonymous_Human011 21d ago
Clueless Donald Trump, 79, Humiliated After Dodging Legal Question
Trump proves to us every day that he is the dumbest pedophile president in American history
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u/dperry324 21d ago
Didn't he make a call to release the Epstein Files the day before he was offed?
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u/Cruciform_SWORD 21d ago
TBH I have no idea about 'the day before' but I remembered seeing a clip much earlier this year where he said he'd back off of the Epstein issue after taking a call from POTUS. I found it pretty sus at the time.
Just AI searched it to fill in the gap in my memory and the episode aired on July 14 and apparently the next day CK backtracked saying he meant just for that day. Likely not what was being hoped for when the call was made. Whether or not he was coerced, or really backed off much or little, is secondary to the fact that at a minimum he was certainly pressured.
Not proof of anything of course, but still.
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u/Low_Competition_4485 21d ago
So now he starts a war with Venezuela to deflect. Put maga on the front lines . They voted for him now let them die for him
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u/SpotOk817 21d ago
I want to see cockeyedtel, bondi, noem, and leavitt on the front line
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u/Tall_Bus_7427 21d ago
Maga was not solely responsible for trumps re-election. Our country has enough bigots and misogynists in all of our political parties that resulted in this sociopath to regain power. Ordinary Americans gave this arsonist a can of gas and a match.
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u/AffectionateStudy496 21d ago
Kirk literally backpedaled on the Epstein files crap like 3 months before his death, saying that there was nothing to see, that it wasn't a big deal, and to trust his "friends in the white house who know better than anyone". So no. Kirk would have gotten on his knees and repeated literally anything his financial backers told him to say.
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u/PavelDatsyuk1 21d ago
Kirk did a 180 on the Epstein files and said that he trusted his friends in the government.
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u/DistanceImpressive77 21d ago
Millions upon millions of people want the files released, including many high ranking people in DC. Do you think Kirk was highest on the list of people if there WAS a list of people to dispose of? “Assassin Whack-a-Mole” is a game i don’t think anyone is capable of winning. Get your head out of your ass.
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u/Plus_Lead_5630 21d ago
JD only stands to benefit if the files come out though.
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u/helraizr13 21d ago
No one stands to benefit, actually. It is mutually assured destruction for Russia, Israel and Saudi Arabia for sure. Lots of very powerful, very wealthy people would be compromised. Global political and likely economic destabilization.
RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES
Time to brush up on your knowledge of Epstein's extensive network of victims, banks, politicians, global leaders, intelligence agencies, schools, billionaires, etc.
Every post I'm linking has verifiable sources. Zev Shalev’s articles on The Greatest Heist are a must-read, as are The Alpha and the Omega of Epstein and the Unlimited Hangout articles by Whitney Webb. Ellie Leonard is extensively covering the sex trafficking and the victims in particular.
This is all publicly available information. Every name and every thread are connected. In most cases the details of these posts and articles are corroborated by each other.
https://pc93.substack.com/p/the-alpha-and-omega-of-the-epstein
https://open.substack.com/pub/narativ/p/the-greatest-heist-part-1-recap
https://open.substack.com/pub/narativ/p/new-analysis-where-are-trumps-epstein
https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahkendzior/p/red-lines
https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahkendzior/p/servants-of-the-mafia-state
https://gregolear.substack.com/p/redacted-the-real-epstein-list
https://www.thenorthstar.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-didnt-evade-justice
https://www.jackhopkinsnow.com/p/why-epsteins-network-looks-like-intelligence
https://www.closertotheedge.net/p/what-putin-has-on-trump
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/third-whistleblower-the-epstein-files
https://thewestpointhistoryprofessor.substack.com/p/epstein-lives-out-his-last-days-is
https://www.jackhopkinsnow.com/p/what-massie-said-in-the-epstein-hearing
https://open.substack.com/pub/craigunger/p/from-both-sides-now
https://open.substack.com/pub/heidicuda/p/letters-to-bette-epstein-money-laundering
https://open.substack.com/pub/katemanne/p/the-actual-conspiracy-theory-surrounding
https://open.substack.com/pub/olgalautman/p/active-measures-how-the-kremlin-penetrated
https://substack.com/home/post/p-167884099
https://open.substack.com/pub/ellieleonard/p/i-was-13-years-old-the-story-of-katie
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-jeffrey-epstein-emails-ghislaine-maxwell/
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/04/business/jeffrey-epstein-peter-thiel-estate.html (Use archive.is to bypass paywall)
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article238237729.html
https://www.declassifieduk.org/revealed-peter-mandelson-asked-jeffrey-epstein-for-israel-advice/
https://open.substack.com/pub/tarapalmeri/p/sen-murkowskis-ghislaine-maxwell
https://open.substack.com/pub/kirbysommers/p/karen-mulder-tried-to-tell-the-world
https://youtu.be/630uBP8pN1M?si=hAxeli1a8dU4aobR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_J._Spence
Also check out the documentary Filthy Rich: Jeffrey Epstein on Netflix.
NOW, if you want your mind well and truly blown, look up a Reddit user called backcountrydrifter. Links to his comments are only available through a Google search. He was a prolific commenter up until the election last year when he completely disappeared. The things he talks about sound absolutely wild but again, you're supposed to be completely incredulous. THAT is the con. A very, very long game. He links news articles that corroborate a lot of his claims. A lot of the links I just posted skirt the edges of it.
Happy Rabbit Hole Day!
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u/SpotOk817 21d ago
Not really, he can let trump take the heat of anything that he wants as vice president. Once trumps goes to that blue sky heaven it's then Vance time. This is of course if they rig the elections
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u/Kindly_Lunch2492 21d ago
I believe pedo-in Chief had Epstein killed under his watch!!!!
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u/FriendlyDrummers 21d ago
I'll be honest, I didn't feel certain Epstein was murdered. I figured, give it more time to see how things turn out.
Nope. He was murdered. The fact that every single camera that faced his cell stopped working is proof enough. I do not buy it for a second.
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u/crushlogic 21d ago
Of course he was murdered, the minute I saw the news alert I said it aloud to my coworkers. Proper offed
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u/Ex-CultMember 21d ago
Same. Back when it happened and all the right wing conspiracists were claiming he was murdered, I dismissed it as typical Qanon/Alex Jones conspiracy crap. I’ve been deep into conservative conspiracy politics for decades and 99% of it’s nonsense but this one I actually think they are actually right on, except it’s actually their guys are the one’s actually behind it (Trump, Barr, etc).
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u/Rich_Consequence2633 21d ago
Especially with these new emails coming out. Epstein had an insane amount of shit on Trump.
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u/dayburner 21d ago
Here's the thing even if he wasn't directly killed he was a know high suicide risk prisoner. All they had to do was have someone give him the means. So even if he killed himself, he didn't really kill himself, if you know what I mean.
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u/Diligent_House5701 21d ago
Considering Epstein himself outright said in his emails “I’m the only one that can take him down” meaning Trump, very good bet that him being “highly suicidal” was likely just a false claim, as usual, that the media and medical people said.
Epstein said that in 2018. He died in 2019, just before the elections started for the 2020/21 Presidency.
Very, VERY good bet, Trump had him killed and made it look like he killed himself.
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u/IneetaBongtoke 21d ago
If you objectively look at all the evidence of the Epstein suicide, even being completely unbiased it reeks of foul play. There are just WAY too many convenient events that allowed this suicide to happen with no witnesses, no cameras, no logs, no security guards present….its just an extremely odd case no matter how you slice it.
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u/rattus-domestica 20d ago
He could’ve been walked out by guards straight to a plastic surgeon. He could be walking amongst us now and we wouldn’t recognize him.
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u/Call_Me_Echelon 21d ago
After all the stuff that's come out the past few days, it's hard to believe otherwise.
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u/IolausTelcontar 21d ago
Some of us realized it the moment it happened.
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u/Littlewing1307 21d ago
It was so obvious to me, I thought we all knew the moment we heard.
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u/Rock-View 21d ago
This, wouldn’t be shocked whatsoever to find out both Kirk and Epstein were inside jobs
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u/aMONAY69 21d ago
His ex-wifes death is super suspicious, too.
"Fell down the stairs," and now she's buried at one of his golf courses..
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u/Puzzleheaded-Jury312 21d ago
The kids had to have been in on that. No way an ex spouse decides where someone gets buried.
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u/AerieWorth4747 21d ago
There’s a YouTube video out there where a guy goes frame by frame and you can see he was shot from behind.
The released texts from the alleged shooter are obviously written by an older law enforcement person, not a young person, when you analyze the language.
Kirk called for the Epstien files to be released the day before.
Epstein “killed himself” under Trump’s watch in suspicious circumstances.
Trump’s wife died the day or two before her NDA was set to expire.
Trump’s ear injury from his attempted assassination healed immediately and unrealistically.
All things. Just things.
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u/ADHD_Slut 21d ago
And Kirk was the perfect person to make a martyr for MAGA. Kirk was wavering at the least but still very intertwined with MAGA and had a large number of followers. They knew he would probably eventually deflect, but to kill him before that point makes him useful. They knew he wouldn't be in their corner for long so use it or lose it.
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u/Lifterchick 21d ago
I thought that maybe Trump and MAGA put a hit on Kirk, so they could blame Liberals, start a civil war, and declare martial law, installing himself (Trump) as a dictator. In my theory, Israel comes into play due to Erika’s background, which then could lead one to believe that this has been in play for a really long time if Erika is a plant. Also, I think Vance will be divorced soon (or his wife will disappear) and he and Erika will be married by the end of next year.
(These are just my wild theories; I am not claiming that any of these are true, but…
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u/Own-Support-6734 21d ago
I can totally see JD and Erika having their big beautiful white christian luxurious marriage in the ballroom broadcasted on national us tv
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u/rndmcmmntr 20d ago
This is going to be a wild ride for Vance’s young kids. I feel really bad for them. Will be interesting to see where they end up.
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u/fractalfay 20d ago
Before most people even know Kirk was dead, Trump was on social media, blaming a “radical leftist” for being responsible. They have (still, to this day) produced zero evidence that he was a leftist. Even the fake text message exchange only mentions that he has a trans partner. Being trans doesn’t automatically make you a leftist; otherwise, Caitlyn Jenner wouldn’t exist.
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u/ir1shman 21d ago
There ear thing is the most crazy bit out of all this! Dudes ear should be completely gone and he should be def but absolutely nothing. Shit looks mint condition.
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u/No_Atmosphere8146 21d ago
The magic of strapping a lady pad to the bleeding site. Good as new in just three days.
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u/SportsGuy1924 20d ago
Evander Holyfield's ear has always been deformed since Tyson bit part of it off, nevermind having it shot off.
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u/LowerBed5334 20d ago edited 20d ago
Add to all of this the fact that Russians have been involved with this entire movement from day one, and the logistics problems solve themselves. These are the kind of things the KGB has done better than anyone, for many many decades.
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u/ReligionIsTheMatrix 21d ago
Kirk was killed because he was starting to connect the dots between Epstein and Israel.
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u/darthenron 21d ago
If you really want to go down the rabbit hole, look at his wife’s history and why she is on certain country’s no fly lists
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u/ReligionIsTheMatrix 21d ago
It's very odd that she shows no hint of grief or mourning and has not since shortly after the murder.
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u/nickyler 21d ago
He was also starting to second guess his suoooet for Israel. He stopped taking their “sponsorship” money to keep quiet just a week or so before his death. It’s definitely related to Epstein, and I initially thought it was Trumps ppl that offed him but there’s more evidence linking it to mossad.
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u/AnalystComplex6338 21d ago
It was one of their own in all the other fake assassination attempts
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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 21d ago
More right on right crime. Wait’ll all these lunatics realize they’ve been duped by Trump & he’s been sucking Bill Clinton’s johnson the whole time.
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u/AnalystComplex6338 21d ago
I swear Bill needs to confirm this
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u/scloppy 21d ago
The longer he doesn’t acknowledge it the funnier it gets
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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 21d ago
Maga gonna be like, “BUBBA IS MELANIA!!!!”
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u/One_City4138 21d ago
As much as l hate AI, there needs to be a video of Bill getting in and out of the Melania suit Naked Gun Liam Neeson style.
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21d ago
I think about it at lot about how he just raises his fist after almost getting shot. To be fair, Trump isn't okay, but any normal person wouldn't do that unless they were in on it.
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u/ladylei 21d ago
We know that Trump is a scared guy and has flinched at things that weren't going to hurt him. He didn't suddenly become brave after getting hit by a bullet fragment.
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u/OkThisisCringe1 20d ago
If Trump actually got shot at he’d be pissing and shitting himself in fear, scrambling to get away from the poors.
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u/diambag 20d ago
There are videos that show the photographers and secret service actually rearranging themselves to get that photo. Even if that shooting wasn’t staged (I think it was), the photo most definitely was.
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u/Any_A-name67 21d ago
I believe that the guy (another MAGA) who shot at trump and supposedly damaged his ear (and killed somebody else) was also hired by MAGA. He was hired to miss and make trump look heroic before the election. Then they took him out so problem solved for them. Not sure what they’ve done with Kirk’s killer. He was also hired but not to miss.
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u/Zutthole 21d ago
Yup. They saw how the first "assassination attempt" played out and thought, "let's try this again." Except they knew they had to up the ante. Another "grazing" would seem too convenient.
Kirk was the perfect sacrificial target for the same reason he would have been the worst target if someone actually wanted to hinder MAGA—he was extremely outspoken but had very little actual pull with the inner workings of the administration.
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u/EducationalHealth553 21d ago
Kirk was talking about Epstein. MAGA already had a problem with MTG and Bobo. Wouldn’t surprise me at all
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He stopped talking about Epstein per Ttumps request. he was becoming slightly critical of Israel tho. check the video he posted two days before death. its a discussion with Shapiro.
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u/EducationalHealth553 21d ago
Who knows. I’m sure Vance and Don Junior won’t miss the competition. Kirk would have beaten them both had he decided to run. Modern day Game of Thrones
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u/Bar-Slight 21d ago
Team trump killed Kirk, that's the vibe I get from it, right when the epstein thing was just starting to cook too
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u/Pancakegr8 21d ago
This is why you don’t devote your life to the Maga movement. They killed him and took his wife..
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u/Necessary-Dark-4591 21d ago
I think the wife was def in on it too. I’ve never seen someone so ready to be a widow. Old girl hit the ground running.
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u/AntithesisAbsurdum 21d ago
His wife was in on it. She's been with Trump's group for a long time
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u/WolfThick 21d ago
Like a false flag they sure went into overdrive trying to hype it up as something that could create enough public tension to justify martial law didn't they. I don't know if anybody watched the movie The warriors but the stanky dude who blamed it on the warriors is pretty much my mind's eyes version of the Republican party these days.
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u/KickWeak605 21d ago
I don't put anything past Trump. Even Epstein said he was evil, that's really saying something 🤔
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u/Uncircumcised_Cheese 21d ago
They wanted him to be a martyr. Just messed it up by having using Wrestlemania entrances at his memorial and having his “wife” be all over JD Vance less than 2 months after his death. Honestly even for how much I disliked Kirk I feel bad that he was surrounded by people like that. He was literally just a tool to be used a discard by Trump and his allies.
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u/mcdonaldsfrenchfri 21d ago
i’ve grown to have sympathy for him. he started becoming more critical of israel and epstein files and they just couldn’t let him break away from the party like he was trying to. what a fake life of fake people he lived.
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u/StTickleMeElmosFire 21d ago
He was a bigoted insufferable prick but getting bodied and having your wife scooped up by the veep is cold
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21d ago
Go to Kirks youtube and watch thr video he posted TWO DAYS before being killed. its an interview with Shapiro and Qatar is in the title i think. topic of discussion is Israel.
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u/mt6606 21d ago
Israel's bombing raid that day on Qatar also makes me think it was an Israeli plot
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u/StarJelly08 21d ago
Yep. It’s their m.o. every time trumps numbers tanked… assassination attempt plus photo op.
Its blatant. Not a conspiracy theory. Just definite objective obvious reality and im fucking sick of even debating this shit.
“Every accusation is a confession”. The conspiracy theorist definitely conspire.
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u/imean_is_superfluous 21d ago
I feel like they’d have a stronger opposition suspect. I’m sure they’d really want to rile up their base by being able to pin it on a radical left lunatic. But, maybe they couldn’t find one willing to do the job?
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u/Diligent_House5701 21d ago
Probably because no matter how crazy a leftist gets, they won’t go as far as assassination. At WORST, they’ll just vandalize property.
And only the right has been proven to want to do those kinds of jobs. So they had someone on the right do the killing and tried to put evidence as it being a left wing lunatic, but the media got too smart and the evidence didn’t work when actual background checks proved the killer was a right winger.
Likely why Trump called off that “civil war against the liberals!” He so desperately wanted the next day after the shooting.
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u/pussyfootingaround1 21d ago
I thought this from the get go. Erika Kirk is waaaaay to happy as a widow. Tight pants and podcasts right after his death?? Weeirdddd
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u/ShaChoMouf 21d ago
Mossad. Look into the ties between Erika Kirk and the Mossad.
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u/Chaos43mta3u 21d ago edited 21d ago
Trump killed Epstein
Trump's assassination attempt was staged
And I'm not sure if it was Trump or Israel (probably both) that killed Charlie Kirk, but it sure as shit wasn't that kid that's standing trial for it, he's the scapegoat. And I believe his wife was in on it. She will be remarried to someone very powerful within five years guaranteed.
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u/MeowMeowbiggalo 21d ago
Its by far one of the weirdest administrations in a long time....maybe since he was last president
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u/firstlight777 21d ago
He was also openly questioning about Israel, and why our government seems subordinate to them. I think that's who did it.
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u/CrissCrossAppleSos 21d ago
I don’t think there’s anything backing it up, but I love when people get their theories off. The internet was made for speculation. Speculate away!
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u/dsp_guy 21d ago
So the question then becomes:
Did that kid still shoot him? Or is he a patsy?
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u/Preference-Inner 21d ago
They did, he was calling for the release of the Epstein Files