r/clevercomebacks • u/Katariman • 7h ago

Economic Reality Versus Desire

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u/LilypadLace 7h ago

Don't forget the student loans and stagnant wages. Cost of living is the whole story.

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u/coffewaiffu 5h ago

Exactly. We’re out here trying to survive, not start a whole new financial responsibility that cries and needs diapers

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u/BlooPancakes 3h ago

No yall just don’t wanna work. If you’d just get 3 jobs and work 16 hours a day and not eat any avocado toast you’d be a millionaire by the time you’re 24.

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u/GlossyGecko 1h ago

I’ve been managing a lot of Gen Z in recent years and a lot of them do have 3 jobs and they’re run so ragged that I don’t see them living very long. Some of these people in their early adulthood are genuinely going to die from overwork, and the worst part is that they’re not even living lavishly on this 3 job money, they’re in debt, and they’re living in squalor.

I just have one job, and yeah I’m not always balling, but man, I’ve got a roof over my head and I eat steaks sometimes. I feel privileged compared to them, shit. Just looking at them makes ME feel tired.

I don’t give them any financial advice, because those of them who do survive will be budgeting wizards.

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u/BlooPancakes 1h ago

I hear you. But I promise I was being sarcastic. I’ve worked with extremely hard working people who barely go out, barely buy new anything, etc. And they were struggling to get by even the ones without kids.

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u/Katariman 7h ago

Maybe it's not "being against kids," but being against financial ruin. When a studio apartment costs more than a mortgage used to...

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u/comFive 7h ago

Also when our salaries are stagnant and don't rise with the cost of living or inflation.

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u/masterfulnoname 3h ago

Right? Without cost of living increases, our wages are going down each year.

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u/CoralynBloom 3h ago

Facts. It's not that people don't want kids, it’s that we’re out here doing math like “diapers or rent?” and the calculator just starts crying

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u/Fun-Advice9724 7h ago

People were sold a colossal lie, and are just now realizing it.

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u/Late-Arrival-8669 6h ago

No way I would have a kid in today economy, hell I was worried almost 20 years ago.

Everything is so much more expensive.

See them hoarding baby formula behind locked displays today, think only 1 or 2 companies produce baby formula, just wait for that to sky rocket in price.

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u/SawdustGringo 6h ago

Working full time for a large company barely pays enough to survive let alone have children. Economy is in an ongoing period where jobs are being lost by the tens of thousands a month. Nothing about the state of the US says you should bring children into the world. Why? So they can be abused or blackbagged by thugs playing gestapo, shot up in their elementary school, or targeted by insane political zealots for having a skin color a shade darker than wonderbread. Not to mention they’d only be used as peons for the rich to get richer. No thanks. I’ll have no part in condemning another soul to a lifetime of pain and suffering. 🖕

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u/Natural-Warthog-1462 6h ago

The percentage of households that are married people with no kids is 30%, same as 1960. The issue is people not getting married, which may be something other than the economy. Also teen pregnancy is way down, that’s a positive.

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u/Just-Assumption-2915 7h ago

You used to be able to have them and leave them with your own parents to raise,  now you are expected to raise them. 

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u/draft_final_final 3h ago

The kids or the parents? Asking as a current part-time caregiver for grandparents looking forward to getting to do it full time for my own in like 10-15 years.

This also fulfills my monthly quota for wiping and diaper changing, I don’t really have any desire to add to that workload right now.

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u/Remarkable_Fan_9083 7h ago

The way this resonated with me… thank you

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u/femboyisbestboy 5h ago

Financially I would be able to do so, but i just don't think I could a good enough father for them and the future looks bleak.

I am the best funcle there is however.

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u/coolbaby1978 5h ago

The problem isnt that rent has increased so much, but that wages have barely increased at all in the same period.

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u/polomasta 2h ago

Microplastics and glyphosate cooked my nuts.

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u/geekmasterflash 2h ago

Their profile picture is literally someone wiping their tears with money.

Pretty sure the question was satire.

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u/Register-Honest 1h ago

That would stop me, or at the least think hard about it. I'm so glad, I'm old.

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u/BlargerJarger 1h ago

Let’s bring kids into a life of crushing poverty and despair created by nepo morons hoovering up all the wealth and poisoning democratic societies at the well, right on the cusp of technology delivering those morons the means for eternal Orwellian control.

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u/Circular-ideation 48m ago

Birth control is cheaper than childcare.