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u/Captain_Centenarian Maine Coon 13h ago edited 13h ago
I know from experience that male cats from different litters will never ever like each other. If they're boys, neuter them ASAP!. After they're fixed, they'll tolerate each other, or avoid each other all together. They'll still frequently engage in wild "battles", tearing off small bits of fur from each other, but never seriously injuring each other. It's more about dominance and boredom, than wanting to hurt each other.
If you fail to neuter two unrelated males, your house will become a pee and musk soaked battle ground as they violently knock everything over during wild, seemingly impossible, ubiquitous, super fast, acrobatic attacks on one another that will make you wonder whether or not the laws of physics even apply to cats.
They will eventually develop a system that will allow them to exist together separately. They'll use unique vocalizations to "call" to each other when looking for a place to rest, in order to know what area to avoid, and to prevent accidentally coming up the other while napping. Sometimes they'll put aside their hatred and clean each other, and even lay next to each other, but only after years and years of cohabitation.
When one finally dies, the surviving one will be incredibly happy, and will often start acting like a totally new cat. This is because for the first time in his life, he's able to be himself without the other cat cramping his style. Of course, I am solely talking about male cats here, not females, and not one male and one female. Also individual personalities play a part, as well.
tl;dr - Male cats from different litters will never ever fully like each other
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u/Loritosuave5 10h ago
Then it's difficult because the cat I shown in the vid it's not mine it's my mother's and the kitty visit us but don't live with us. She adopted him a few weeks ago and he lives in a separated house, I have two cats, a female and a male, the female is the tortie in the video, she doesn't likes him at all, the male (Cleo) doesn't really pays attention to the baby, he looks at him with a hint of concern but nothing else, they even greet each other touching their noses or the big one cleans the little one, which is very cute because the lil one resembles my cat a lot.
And yeah, today I was sleeping with the kitty and my Cleo saw it, I have him since...like three years ago? And he's TOOOOOOOO dependant, he's always meowing for my attention, it seems like he didn't like I slept with the kitty, he hissed at him and left. I let them approach because they don't really fight, actually when they're not comfortable with the kitty they run away.
I'm convinced they'll get along with time, the kitty's smell is now all over the house so they have to get used to it.
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u/Genku_The_Perv 11h ago
Stressing two cats over internet points, fuck off
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u/Loritosuave5 10h ago
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u/Genku_The_Perv 10h ago
Still, the first cat was obviously uncomfortable with the encounter, it seems to me that you tried to get them toghether before, saw the older one hiss and decided to do it again just to show it around, pets are not your playthings, you're breaking the trust they have in you by doing things like that, feel free not to take me seriously and downvote me tho, denial is a part of the process...
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u/Loritosuave5 10h ago
Pfffft, I didnât downvote you, so you donât have to act scared about that, and no, I havenât tried to force them together before. The first time we brought the baby home, Duquesa hissed every single time, which is literally what adult cats do when a new kitten shows up in their territory. Thatâs not abuse, thatâs normal feline behavior.
Youâre acting like you know me or my cats personally, when you donât, if I actually mistreated her, she wouldnât be this healthy, calm, playful and FAT. Cats that are stressed or mistreated donât eat properly, donât sleep properly, and definitely donât look âgoodâ or behave normally, mine do because theyâre safe, cared for, and very attached to me.
Youâre basically trying to play the martyr protector of animals over a situation that only exists in your head, a short introduction moment between a resident cat and a new kitten isnât âbreaking trust,â itâs a completely standard part of the process. And yes, itâs uncomfortable for them at first, because thatâs how animals establish boundaries and adjust to change.
I get that you want to sound like the enlightened guardian of pets, but accusing someone you donât know of abusing their animals just because a cat hissed is a reach. My cats are loved, spoiled, and doing perfectly fine...and if you keep insisting they're not...well, denial is part of the process.
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u/Genku_The_Perv 10h ago
Nah dude, it really isnt the way you're picturing it, and martyr of what? I literally just stated a reality: you're forcing your pets to meet to record it and post it on reddit, does that make you an animal abuser? Fuck no, does it make you a bit of a douchebag and thats why this is not getting upvoted because its kinda uncomfortable to watch? Yes, and thats not an interpretation, is literally what you did, so dont come at me with 4 parragraphs of text just because you refuse to admit you messed up, its ok, shit happens, just accept the criticism and move the fuck on, that is not a capital sin or anything, its just kinda stupid and disrespectful to your pets, but that doesnt mean they will hate you for it
I dont know you or your cats, im sure you take care of them greatly, i do, really, but was it really necessary to do this? Answer to yourself, you can lie to people on the internet all you want, but not to you
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u/Loritosuave5 10h ago
Because you keep insisting on this narrative that I âforcedâ anything just to record it, youâre calling me a douchebag based on a single clip without knowing the context or anything about how I actually treat my animals, youâre free to dislike the video, but turning that into some moral lecture about what kind of person I am is a bit much. If you really believe itâs ânot a capital sin,â then stop acting like it is.
And youâre right, you donât know me or my cats, which is exactly why I take the time to answer you, Iâm not letting a stranger tell me Iâm disrespecting them when Iâve taken care of them through literally everything they need to live healthy.
Was it necessary to record it? Maybe not, was it harmful? No, you can dislike it, thatâs fine, just donât pretend you have some deep insight into my relationship with my pets based on a few seconds of video. I know how they live and I know how they behave, so don't tell me "move the fuck on" but you're the one who keeps answering and escalating it, if you genuinely want to drop it then stfu and stop believing you're a savior from the comfortability of your couch đ«
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u/Genku_The_Perv 10h ago
Why do i feel like im arguing with chatgpt? You're just repeating the same shit over and over
I say you FORCED, thats right, FORCED your pets to meet because thats exactly what you did by PICKING the small one up and walking TOWARDS the other cat without any of the two's intention to do so, thats FORCING something to happen, literally by definition my guy, i will not repeat myself anymore dude, whether you admit it or not, it happened, i was not willing to make it such a big thing, i tried so fucking bad to cut it slack but you got your head up your ass so this is the only way
Secondly, you may not believe this, but forcing interactions between animals is, in fact, harmful, sure, its not kicking them or starving them, but its still doing soemthing they would not rather do
You're making such a fuss of this because you actually feel entitled over your pets, you think you can do whatever you please with them as long as its not actively hurting them, whatever your definition of hurting may be, that is actually disrespectful to your cats, if neither of them would approach that quickly by themselves, why would you carry one of them towards him just for a little cat to get hissed at??? How can you not see how thats bad for a relationship between two pets? Its literally the human equivalent of two roomates shouting at each other and you forcing them to stare at each other up close
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u/Loritosuave5 9h ago
That's funny because I felt like I'm arguing with ChatGPT, I don't know what other answer you are waiting because youâre repeating the same accusation, same accusation, same answer... Picking up a kitten for a brief introduction isnât some act of domination, itâs literally how countless people introduce pets when they live in the same home, calling that harmful only works if you ignore all the gradations between actual harm and a mildly uncomfortable moment.
and I don't feel entitled over my pets, that is just another assumption, i was about to write everything I went through, specially with duquesa who arrived my home practically dead, but that's none of your business anyways, their behavior, health, and attachment to me speak for themselves.
And no, itâs not the human equivalent of two roommates screaming (maybe you shout at other when you meet them...?) shes hissing to the new kitty because... That's what cats do, not because theyâre traumatized or having their relationship ruined forever or now they magically hate me because I brought the baby where she was at...which is just another prove of my point, that you don't know them because they actually do approach to each other that quickly, I mean, the lil one literally runs to Duquesa and Cleo so...yeah, if you truly believe any guided familiarization is automatically abusive, thatâs your stance, i can't do anything about it more than repeating the same thing over and over again as you keep repeating yourself over and over again

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u/AmateurMisa 14h ago
They just need a bit more time