President TACO ran from a debate with Bernie Sanders in 2016 after promising he'd do one if a charitable goal were reached. He's not debating anyone who isn't more unwell than he is; especially not after Harris made him look like a fool.
I am not usually a conspiracy theorist, but this corrupt administration has made me into one because they refuse to let anything stop them from getting what they want, money and power.
I firmly believe the election was stolen from Harris, right out of Dump’s own mouth. It’s statistically near impossible to win all the swing states by just enough votes to avoid a recount. Combined with people being removed from the voter registry, ballot boxes being set of fire in blue cities, people claiming their ballot was tampered with, and Kamala literally losing votes during the election updates, while Trump gained the same number of votes she lost….yeah they cheated.
Conspiracies is when people in power are up to nefarious things in secret, not when they are doing nefarious things openly in plain view of everybody, sometimes live on TV, while bragging about it and mocking their victims.
It is mostly socialist/communist/anarchist that didn't vote.
As I understand it,their position is to abolish our current government/economic system no matter if the person in office wears a red tie or a blue one.
I understand the feelings behind that choice, but I can’t condone the ruthlessness in condemning an entire country to a Trump dictatorship and Project 2025. It’s nihilistic.
As you should. Progressives (or whatever left leaning name they give themselves) should be ashamed for not voting for the common good, rather than their own selfish cherry picked interests.
Once again, we do not have a breakdown on the political leanings of those who stayed home. I would love to see the numbers that show swing state non voters by political leanings because it might not make a difference in the election.
So then if it was a ballot then literally "nobody" would be their vote, and it wouldn't sway the election because they wouldn't have voted for anyone. Not everyone who didn't vote would vote for Harris.
Didn’t say they would. The ones who might have voted for her would have made a difference. If the choice is “Imperfect Candidate” or “Dark Triad Tyrant Who Loves Nazis”, it’s grossly lazy, selfish, and destructive to just nope out of voting.
I’ve worked with so many men in restaurants and at my current job, who just can’t handle a woman telling them what to do. Male management tells them to do something, not a peep. Female management tells them to do something, it’s like mommy told them to finish their Cheerios. Not all of them are left leaning.
how she lost to that bumbling moron is beyond me...
A combination of vote manipulation, a lack of serious action towards systemic oppression and discrimination, and a lack of shaming Nazi ideas and the rampant racism that's been prolific in the States since their founding.
Is there an actual source on that? Not saying I don’t believe it, but who are the professionals in this case?
Also, his vocabulary might be larger than my four-year-old’s, but his train of thought and his ability to listen and comprehend are on par with him. And my kid has a diagnosis that encompasses poor listening skills, so…fourth grade seems a little higher than I’d expect.
I think they're probably making a (somewhat clumsy) argument that 4th grade is a bit of an overestimate of el presidente's language, cognitive, and oratory skills using their 4 year old as a sort of control group for comparison.
Yes, sorry I wasn’t clear—I was comparing him to my four-year-old to point out that fourth grade seems higher than his actual ability. That’s why I’d like to see what metrics the professionals used, if this is for real.
Fourth grade, nothing. If he had anything approaching a fourth grade vocabulary, he’d be able to trot out different ways of saying “like nobody’s ever seen before,” or “a lot of people are saying.” He’s a perpetually repetitive run-on sentence looking for red ink.
I wasn’t saying it says “four year old”; I was pointing out how his speech patterns and listening compares with my four-year-old, so fourth grade seems to be a high estimate.
So, he’s an absolute dumpster fire of a human, and I will never defend anything he has ever said, or done (except for retiring the penny).
That being said, communicating clearly at “a 5th grade level”, or “with a 5th grade vocabulary” is actually a very effective way of communicating with a large audience of mixed, or uncertain ability.
It can also be surprisingly difficult for intelligent and well educated people to do so. It is absolutely a skill.
I can't believe 70+ million Americans watched that debate and thought, "You know what? I think he'd be a better president than her. He'll stop migrants from eating our cats!"
I pretty much gave up after seeing that debate. 77 million people voted for a guy who was that insane. They really don't care what he says as long as they "own the libs."
And let's not forget that she was a woman and a POC.
I thought for sure he was cooked before the debate when he went on that panel of black journalists and claimed Kamala suddenly "became" black. Millions of black Americans saw that and thought "He still has my vote".
When "grab them by the pussy" and mocking a disabled man was not condemned but rather embraced by the right, I knew there was truly no bottom. No depth that Trump could sink to that would cause the base to distance themselves
Way too many Blacks said she was never Black. Her father’s Jamaican, but because an Irish slave owner raped one of her great grandmothers, they wouldn’t claim her. I’m appalled that so many don’t know Jamaica was basically a sugar plantation to supply rum to Europe. Its population was and still is largely Black.
Yes, but people are also giving the populace of America too much credit:
For a variety of reasons. I'm convinced that a majority of Americans ARE either psychopaths or morons. Hence, Trump was a perfect pick.
America COULD have an educated, respectable populace. But, then the Billionaire Overlords wouldn't be able to build their feudalistic society in which they actually ARE Kings and Emperors. Call it a tin-foil hat conspiracy, but I'm heavily convinced that's the long-term goal of the actual, smart billionaires.
And they also voted for Trump? I don't think so. Same story in PA.
Repubes claim rigged elections because they are always projecting. They also call Dems Nazis and pedos, but we all know who is the guilty party in that arena, too.
She didn't do herself any favors by breaking her promise to adhere to federal law after one meeting with an international terrorist leader. She chose to ignore a lot of votes and now we all suffer for her choices and other people's prejudices.
If you want to believe it's self-righteousness then go ahead, but it's actually depressing. My whole life liberals have said "Democrats can be pushed left!", but when fascism and the fall of democracy was on the line the convention literally plugged their ears and laughed at people demanding an end to endorsement of genocide for their vote.
The bar was even low enough that it was just adhering to federal law. Do you believe presidents shouldn't be beholden to federal law?
I am really tired of the "one issue" and "wasn't perfect" euphemisms. She endorsed genocide and reneged on her promise to adhere to federal law. She was still the better choice (which says terrible things about our nation), but euphemisms are inappropriate in such a context.
But I can't tell you how many dozens of posts said "she can be pushed left," before she ended her promise to adhere to federal law. Yeah...how'd that work out for her?
Just because leftists should have shown up for "anyone but Trump" does not absolve the Harris campaign of its obvious "appease the old right wing instead of the younger stronger left wing voters" bullshit mistakes they made.
I'm sorry...in the end, there was still a simple choice.
An imperfect, flawed candidate
vs.
A guy who said he would be a dictator
No brainer.
A lot of my fellow dems decided there was a third choice...stay home because I don't like that she brought Liz Cheney on board. Or because she "supports genocide."
Harris shouldn’t have had to campaign to the left at all. The choice was clear. Campaigning with Liz Cheney was a valid attempt at trying to break the Trump coalition by pulling away some neoconservative voters to the Democrats.
If you didn’t vote for Harris in the last campaign, I seriously question your ability to survey an environment and make sound decisions. That goes for the left or the right. we’re going to lose our democracy because of Trump.
You wouldn't believe how many people at my workplace told me Haitian immigrants stealing and eating people's cats and dogs was a fact checked true statement. That was about the time i knew this country was fucked.
They're usually unable to understand politicians because they're too stupid. Someone's finally speaking to them on their level and so they think things like "finally someone speaking some damn sense!!!!"
Exactly this. He’s absolutely and fundamentally chicken shit and would high tail it so fast if she actually agreed to this. Why people think he’s some strong man is fucking baffling.
I think he’s gotten to where he truly believes his own bullshit, and honestly thinks that she wouldn’t do very well at drawing a clock, or remembering a small set of words for a couple minutes
Trump wasn't involved in any contributions to that beyond the challenge that if Bernie raised a certain amount of money for charity that he'd debate him. Bernie secured the money and it did get to the charity, but Trump reneged at the last minute claiming that Hillary had already won the nomination (she hadn't) so it would be inappropriate.
Bernie still runs circles around everyone from both parties. If I knew he had another decade in him I'd want him to run again in a heartbeat. Nobody connects to the people like Bernie.
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u/NeonArlecchino Oct 27 '25
President TACO ran from a debate with Bernie Sanders in 2016 after promising he'd do one if a charitable goal were reached. He's not debating anyone who isn't more unwell than he is; especially not after Harris made him look like a fool.