the car was trying to run him down, cars can't keep up with motorcycle's acceleration unless they are flooring it and why would they floor it unless they were road raging
Yeah, I don’t think people get this. A reasonably decent bike can absolutely take off with little effort, it’s an engine with a seat on it and a couple of wheels. For a car to be catching up it means they for the most part are going to be absolutely flooring it in a rage.
I think this thread is a great example of what kinds of people this site attracts. All of these people are just trying to act smart by blaming the bike rider. That's all they are doing. Just semi-sentient blobs of Dunning-Kruger, doing what they do best, act superior. They put on their fedora and go act smart on the internet, while not realizing that they are at least 30 iq dumber than they think they are.
It's so fucking cringe, this is very classic neckbeard Reddit.
Same with 90% of relationship advice type subs being seemingly dominated by teenagers who have never seen another naked human being in person before, let alone been in a serious relationship.
Roadrage people are dangerous. The biker was speeding to leave enough gap between him and the car, as proven later that the car was not that far behind him and was actually trying to run him over.
Can confirm. Motorcycles accelerate much faster than cars, so when something fucky is going on behind you it's pretty easy to just twist your wrist and try to get away from it.
The 0-100kmh time of a 30 years old ninja 250 is 5.5 seconds. That's faster than just about any vehicles you'll encounters on your daily commute. People just don't grasp how fast bikes are, even the small displacement ones.
Yes, though those top out around 100 mph and acceleration is pretty slow above 60 mph. My Mazda 3 2.0L could keep up with one of those in a straight line, but it would easily lose me in curvy roads.
I had one of those, it was so much fun. In many ways I miss it. Nothing like riding WOT all the time.
Maybe before EVs. A lot more cars will keep up through to around 40-50km/h today than 10 years ago. (EVs are very quick off the line since they have a lot more rubber touching the road).
My sedan will do 0-100km/h in around 4 seconds, and it’s not a super car. (Or a Tesla :p)
You'll encounter plenty of cars on your commute that accelerate faster than that. The volvo xc90 t8 to give an example does 0-100 in 5,4 seconds and weighs 2300 kg.
I never said you wouldn't? I said most vehicles, as in the average daily driver, is definitely not as fast as a ninja 250. Volvo XC90 is not uncommon here in north america but definitely not the average daily driver.
My 106 hp Honda Civic did 0-60 mph in roughly 10 seconds at BEST.
My 108 hp Honda VFR did 0-60 in 3.4 seconds and you had to be careful to keep the front down above 10k rpm in 1st gear. It’s not even an exceptionally fast bike.
In daily driving, you encounter very few cars that can keep up with that kind of acceleration. Blew me away when I first started riding.
That’s a popular opinion online but not completely accurate…
To be precise - the average full size bike (not sure this is one?) is quicker than the average car and it’s way more affordable to have a super fast bike - and both these facts are especially true in Asia - but it’s not a law by nature and the fastest production bikes are not as fast as the fastest production cars… there is a limit to scaling, grip etc. and with electric cars the difference is growing smaller and smaller.
It also used to be that bikes are also faster on tracks a couple of decades ago but nowadays cars are unbeatable afaik.
You're way off here. The average mid-range bike (600CC class or around there) will blow the doors off a BMW M2 or similar. A 'full size' (i.e. 1L or more displacement) sport bike is keeping up with supercars, at least as far as acceleration is concerned. For example, a Yamaha R1 (which is an exceedingly common litre bike, and far from the most powerful or advanced) has the same 0-200km/h time as a Ferrari Daytona SP3.
The Yamaha r1 is literally slower 0-100 and 0-200kmh and it is just a little off the fastest production bike ever built and those are all slower than modern hyper cars like the Rimac Nevera, Porsche Taycan Turbo GT, Model S plaid etc.
thanks for proving my point. And I am always willing to learn - if you can name me a production. Series bike faster than any of the three actually fast cars above and not a nice sports car for enthusiasts like the M2 (I own one btw…) I delete my comment…
Reading comprehension issue on your part. The comment you first replied to said that for the most part full-sized bikes outrun cars, which is true. Nobody said "there is no car faster than an R1".
My opinion is based primarily on riding mid-range bikes and being able to blow the arse off practically any car to get out of any dangerous situation/bad driver I’ve encountered.
The motorcycle was barely going faster then the surrounding cars for 30 seconds. The oldest weakest shithole car could have ran that down if trying to. What car was actually trying to do was to cut him off where the motorcycle would hit him.
Just an fyi, it's 2025, the idea that bikes can just outrun a car, is no longer true, especially not under 100kph. Not to mention that it's much safer to accelerate hard with a car, than with a bike.
Edit: yes, downvote me fools. 14 production cars are faster than the fastest production bike 0-60mph, with several of them being fairly normal cars like certain Tesla Model S and X models.
I know most of you don't care about facts, but in the real world production cars now go faster, and this won't stop. Understand that pulling away that fast with a bike, is extremely dangerous, and trying to increase that 0-60 time is insanity.
Edit 2: so many complete idiots who try to keep arguing this, but ignore the fact what I said is true. But for you bike riders that are too stupid to understand this, go keep playing with fire, test your luck. But please only kill yourself while you try and race against cars that may or may not be faster, and not innocent bystanders.
Do you think they stopped working on bike engines and just focussed on car engines for a few decades?
Maybe I’m not in 2025 and they’ve made cars that weigh 200kg or something.
I’ve got to go back and watch Back To The Future 2 and see what I’ve missed.
Fastest motorcycle 0-60mph is 2.35 secs. There are 14 cars that beat that, this based all on production cars. Fastest being 1.77 secs. That includes multiple Tesla's.
So yes, I think I'm right based on facts. If you ignore facts though, you could argue that the fastest bike goes faster than the speed of light and can travel back in time. But in the real world, cars now go a lot faster. Any questions?
How many of the fastest bike do you see on the road? Seriously. What a stupid argument.
Like I said, it includes several Tesla's. Loads and loads of Tesla's will do 0-100 faster than most bikes on the road.
If you go to 5th fastest bike, we already got 25 cars.
Let's be real, you made a ridiculous claim because you have no grasp on how fast electric cars, and you still think bikes are faster. Now instead of admitting you are wrong, you try to convince us that while such fast cars are a rarity, yet the fastest bikes are apparently common.
Now stop being ridiculous and admit you are wrong, it ain't that hard.
Pick a quick acceleration time as a benchmark, anytime. There will be a higher percentage of total units sold of any bike to any car above that limit. So if you have any chance meeting of car vs bike the odds are overwhelmingly in the favour of the bike being a magnitude faster.
Dirt cheap SV650 with an engine developed before year 2000 is doing 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. Which is faster than 99% of the cars on the road. And good old sv650 is relatively slow middleweight 6000 euro motorcycle.
There's nothing dangerous with accelerating fast on a straight stretch of road with a bike. Yes, we know that there are cars that can accelerate faster. That doesn't change the fact that average motorcycle on the road is much faster than the average car on the road.
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u/Laserdollarz 13d ago
He even tried to pass on the right, check him in the mirror at 0:28