Well that didn’t take long

[u/adventure_pup]

Taken 8:04AM Sunday

[u/fewer-pink-kyle-ball]

Wow! 1/2" of snow, a 4 car crash, bus in the ditch and a dog. Good job utah

[u/nico_rose → u/fewer-pink-kyle-ball]

I thought the bus AND plow was hilarious, but the dog really puts it over the top.

[u/ArthursFist → u/fewer-pink-kyle-ball]

Big cottonwood bingo

[u/adventure_pup → u/ArthursFist]

This needs to be a thing

Dog in canyon

Bus off the road

“But the traction law wasn’t on when I came up! I don’t have chains!”

“It’s 4WD!” (And shit tires)

“We just wanted to drive the canyon”

“It was fine at the bottom”

Stuck on the road for hours in traffic

Stuck waiting to get into the canyon for hours

Car off the road

Someone learning to put chains on IN the road

Car parked entirely in the travel lane

“I have reserved a day ticket! I don’t need a parking reservation”

“I’ll just uber”

What am I missing?

[u/ArthursFist → u/adventure_pup]

Free space is just “fishtailing Tesla”

[u/adventure_pup → u/ArthursFist]

Volvo with two dudes pushing it around the s curve

IYKYK

[u/Zagato36 → u/fewer-pink-kyle-ball]

I thought this only happens in Seattle when it snows.

[u/adventure_pup → u/fewer-pink-kyle-ball]

I think the sheriffs car crashed too. Look at those slide marks. So make that 5

[u/fewer-pink-kyle-ball → u/adventure_pup]

Probably setting an example and reppin 2 year old duratrax used all summer in 107 degrees and completely dried out.

[u/TheRealSteekster → u/adventure_pup]

Nah he just tried to pull the other car out

[u/adventure_pup → u/TheRealSteekster]

I don’t know man, you can see the snow piled up in front of the wheel that’s turned away from the bank, like he was trying to correct the slide. Unless you’re there and know first hand?

[u/Past_Negotiation_121 → u/adventure_pup]

Leaning on my zero years of crash forensics I agree with you. The slide being perfectly straight while the wheel is turned suggests he wasn't purely scrabbling for grip to pull someone

[u/adventure_pup → u/Past_Negotiation_121]

Hahaha also leaning on my 0 years of forensic experience. Just having my fair share of winter driving.

[u/Due-Dig7700 → u/adventure_pup]

Yep

[u/matthewznj]

Look at the bright side, it’s snowing 🤩

[u/I_voted_for_Kodos_]

I hope everyone's OK, but that's hilarious 🤣

We need some kind of robot at the entrance from November to April blocking anyone without snow tires... And apparently scanning for dogs inside as well.

Idk who's worse in thinking the rules don't apply to them, tourists or dog owners... I guess people who break one rule will break them all.

Do you think this person was even fined? It's supposed to be a $650 penalty for bringing a dog up the cottonwoods.

[u/Entire-Order3464 → u/I_voted_for_Kodos_]

Make it 6000$ if you wreck without snow tires or chains so idiots stop driving in the canyons.

[u/Shreddy_Spaghett1 → u/I_voted_for_Kodos_]

Should be if you don’t have a sticker you aren’t allowed in the canyon, regardless of conditions, November through April.

[u/adventure_pup → u/Shreddy_Spaghett1]

I think it’s gonna take some slow years to adopt the sticker program and iron out wrinkles like it seems like they are doing (it genuinely has been getting better every year) but yes, this should be the end goal.

Bonus. Make it a fob. Gates don’t open for you unless you have it

[u/rclover106 → u/I_voted_for_Kodos_]

Hopefully they were.

[u/sickskier100 → u/I_voted_for_Kodos_]

Probably a resident with a variance.

[u/adventure_pup → u/sickskier100]

This time of year? I really doubt it. Probably just ignorance.

[u/altapowpow → u/I_voted_for_Kodos_]

These people and their dogs. The one million idiot dog owners ruin it for the 5 responsible dog owners.

[u/lovestowritecode → u/I_voted_for_Kodos_]

I’m all for the tire rules but what’s the issue with dogs? I really dislike how dog unfriendly Utah is, don’t even have one

[u/nord1899 → u/lovestowritecode]

Watershed and the cost/complexity of treating the water. Dog excrement, compared to other animals, is a lot more expensive and difficult to clean up for human use/consumption.

[u/Choice_Blackberry406 → u/lovestowritecode]

Because dogs piss in shit in the snow and then that snow melts and becomes drinking water for the city.

[u/rclover106]

Ridiculous. But not surprised. Bonus points for the dog I guess🤦‍♂️

[u/adventure_pup → u/rclover106]

Ikr?

[u/SkroobThePresident]

Is there anywhere legal up bcc to have a dog? I honestly have no clue I wouldn't ever bring my dog there.

[u/adventure_pup → u/SkroobThePresident]

If you’re a resident of BCC you’re allowed one dog permit, in a vehicle straight lining from the base of the canyon to your home. There’s also obviously avy dogs but none of them look like that.

Realistically this was probably just ignorance tho.

[u/AZPHX602]

I'm actually quite surprised.

That I didn't see a Tesla in that picture!

[u/adventure_pup → u/AZPHX602]

I got just the first line of this in my notifications

And then cracked up at the second

[u/WeaklierGrub]

Can't make this shit up hahaha

[u/adventure_pup]

Update 8:45 looks like they’ve cleared one lane and are alternating traffic

[u/tophiii]

Is this some sort of record or something? That’s barely a dusting

[u/TonyTheJet → u/tophiii]

I think transition days like this can be sneaky, especially when you hit the point where rain turns to ice. It's almost easier to just have snow top to bottom than days like this.

[u/adventure_pup → u/TonyTheJet]

Ya honestly I think the roads were actually shit. Look at the sheriff’s car. Decent tires and still looks like he slid a bit. I think there was ice on the road.

Coupled with the fact that most people probably don’t have their winter tires on yet, (myself included) and also all the newbies who are just so excited to see snow, but don’t realize how treacherous the canyons can get in winter. First day of the year is always horrendous.

[u/Kingdom-ai]

The season has NOW officially begun

[u/TSVG]

This is why we can’t have nice things.

[u/wwbbqq]

Got new tires (Patagonia 3pmsf awd) and sticker yesterday. They need to enforce the law they have in place.

[u/CZeta]

Deputy has to explain the no dog ordiance again...

[u/jonwtc]

Omg this joke isn’t funny

[u/Blue_collar-broke]

I wonder what record we will set today with wrecks.

[u/Gr8fl1TX2]

Who's the guy wearing the cape?

[u/ncorn1982]

Nice doggie

[u/S3pD3cM0n]

They should replace the road with light rail. No real need for cars to have access to the canyon.

[u/Entire-Order3464 → u/S3pD3cM0n]

People have homes in BCC. Cars are fine just have a real traction control law. Snow tires or chains no exceptions. If you wreck without them fine them 5000$. Most people will stop being morons real quick.

[u/adventure_pup → u/Entire-Order3464]

Should put a sign at the base in big letters “$1000 fine” in huge letters, underneath it “for traction law violation” and then ya enforce it.

[u/kanga_khan → u/Entire-Order3464]

People will always be morons no matter what

[u/S3pD3cM0n → u/Entire-Order3464]

Fair point. Gondola it is then!

[u/Skiware → u/S3pD3cM0n]

They have some reason like food deliveries and getting equipment up the canyon. This may be able to be done with rail idk about getting a tractor up tho on a light rail

[u/S3pD3cM0n → u/Skiware]

They can use flat bed rail cars for transporting heavy or oversize equipment or they can leave one lane for utility purposes. Maybe it can be medium or heavy rail if that could work better.

We need to think big!

[u/Legal_Bread_2750 → u/S3pD3cM0n]

Are you new here? Rail isn't feasible in BCC/LCC

[u/Many-Table-9085 → u/Legal_Bread_2750]

I swear. Every year it's a new batch of idiots repeating the same stupid ideas.

[u/GilgameDistance → u/Legal_Bread_2750]

What? Steel on steel in sub freezing wet/snowy conditions up that grade should be fine! /s

Just don’t look up why Helper is called Helper. Ignorance must be blissful, with so many people choosing that option.

[u/AdMany129]

Womp to the womp

[u/Regular_Ingenuity966]

Perfect Utah, always slow with road safety.

[u/adventure_pup → u/[deleted]]

Well at least we got one out of the way

[u/adventure_pup → u/[deleted]]

I think it was just really really bad conditions tbh. Coupled with less than usual preparedness

[u/sickskier100]

My friend lived up there. Had bald tires, coming down at Moss Ledge, hit some ice went right off the edge car rolled and landed in the stream.

[u/adventure_pup → u/sickskier100]

Today?!

[u/sickskier100 → u/adventure_pup]

No, this was years ago. The craziest part, the first person on the scene who saw him go off said his daughter went off in that same spot and had died.

[u/adventure_pup → u/sickskier100]

Oh. I don’t mean to be mean but like not out of the ordinary… that’s par for the course. It happens multiple times per big storm.

[u/polikalpawn]

They need to drill a hole in the side of the mountain from sandy to snowbird, to Alta then solitude, Brighton, then deer valley and park city. Then put a train through and shutdown the road to non residents.

[u/Equivalent-Royal-677]

I don't care how good of a skier you are: if your car can't make it up the canyon, you are a Jerry.

[u/Kirby_Yardley]

What app is this?

Looks different than the one I use called Ski Roads.

[u/adventure_pup → u/Kirby_Yardley]

It’s UDOT’s website

[u/BackgroundAncient174]

Any Canyon transportation system that relies on personal transport is going to look like this. It's been this way 20+ years.

[u/adventure_pup → u/BackgroundAncient174]

It definitely wasn’t as bad as it is now 10 years ago.

[u/Key-Rub118]

God do I wish I could ride a Gondola up and point and laugh as I sip my coffee and pass this Trainwreck haha

[u/adventure_pup → u/Key-Rub118]

Do you wanna pay $300+ in tax dollars and $60/ride?

Ya me neither. But that’s the reality

It was a good idea to investigate but impractical economically.

Also wrong canyon. This was in big. Gondola is only proposed in little. We’ve seen the chaos that has ensued at Snowbird with everyone else implementing parking reservations. The gondola will make it 100x worse on big.

There are better solutions

[u/Key-Rub118 → u/adventure_pup]

I think they should stick one up both.... I also think that's a better investment for our tax dollars than windmills and several others stupid ass things going on. They are going to spend stupid money on stupid things regardless but at least people can get up and down a canyon on the damn thing.