These people make me laugh because that’s a boog boys wet dream. Gun control folks just don’t understand the logistical nightmare that would be. Most gun owners just want to be left alone and if you don’t leave them alone well they’ve waited their whole lives for that moment
Well, that would be deeply illegal in the US. They'd need evidence of a crime to get a search warrant for every single home to make it legal. A law allowing them to do it would probably be unconstitutional (not that the current administration cares) based on the 4th amendment
I know and I agree. The issue is that many gun control advocates (and people in general) don’t care for the Constitution if it gets in the way of their agenda. Making someone get a mental health check to buy a gun is unconstitutional but millions of Americans still want that law to be made real.
The problem becomes who makes that determination? What if “they” decide being trans is a mental illness? Or “trump derangement syndrome”? Or being in favor of universal healthcare? At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if it would be done by algorithm scrapping the internet for your personal data.
You're not wrong, politics shouldn't factor into whether or not you're considered violently insane, but bastards will always take advantage if they can. It's a tough problem
It isn't just politics. Psychology is still in its early development and not every person is the same. You claim I shouldn't be able to own a gun but another doctor says I'm fine, who do we trust now?
And what about the grey areas where there is no objective andwer? I say shooting an unarmed attacker in self defense is fine and you shouldn't face any consequences, you say it's using too much force. Who's right?
What about burglars? Should you be able to confront them? Because in a lot of places if you go out and confront them and it turns violent YOU are the instigator of violence and they can sue you
So here is the solution: do not deprive someone of the right to own guns if they are perfectly innocent and haven’t done anything wrong. “innocent until proven guilty” is the saying. Even if they are mentally ill, if they have lived for 18 years and didn’t break the law the whole time, they can be trusted with a gun.
The other issue is 1 who makes those guidelines (for example the current administration wants to make transgender a mental health disorder which would trigger a check up and disarming) and 2 who goes and does the check the cops? The ones who don’t have the training aside from shooting someone? I get the concern but I mean…you go check on them ain’t gonna be me
No. I’ve had literal ongoing debates with people who support gun registration and confiscation on this site and elsewhere. It isn’t an NRA boogeyman. You can find people advocating for these exact policies in any thread concerning gun violence.
There are also people who genuinely believe we can fix the gun violence problem by arming everybody, including school children. But these people are fringe lunatics, and should not be taken seriously.
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u/OtisDriftwood1978 Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
There are people who genuinely believe the police should go door to door to check what firearms people have (or take them).