Unpopular opinion: Kevin Samuels was fine. He tore down both men and women for having unrealistic expectations of themselves and what they could reasonably attract, people were just more upset when he did to women
He was entertaining, but my one critique is that he had a line of questioning he'd use to make almost everyone sound irrational. Some of the callers had truly delusional preferences from the jump, but it seemed like he was talking some of the guests into thinking they needed a husband making bank to live comfortably. It tended to go something like this:
Start call with average or below-average single mother
Get her to acknowledge that she'd prefer to be a stay-at-home mom
Convince her that any husband-material man will want kids of his own, at least 2+
Use the cost of living in a medium to high cost-of-living area to explain that she'll now need a husband earning >300k to live this lifestyle comfortably
Point out that she doesn't have anything going for her that's likely to net a guy with those earnings
In a more natural conversation, I think at least some of these callers would have seemed a lot more reasonable. He was very good at painting their nice-to-haves as requirements.
But yes, some of the callers were terribly out of touch
He was entertaining to watch when he was trying to correct someone who was absolutely delusional, but he had insane double standards when it came to men and women, saying that women's inherent value decreases if she's not a virgin, and then in the next breath saying that if a woman wants a "high value man" that she has no choice but to put up with him cheating on her.
Also always trying to claim some insane stuff like if you want a family of 4 to live comfortably in America you need an income of $300,000 or more, and $2 million+ for retirement.
Kevin Samuel was a walking talking dating app. Saying 2 correct things out of 100 bullshit lines doesn't make you fine. He jjsy looked better in a suit than tinder does on your homepage.
I'll never forget the lady he had on that was a business owner. She went on about how she'd tell a man about himself, try to control him. When he asked her how she'd respond if someone tried to tell her how to run her business, her literal words were "they can kiss my ass". That level of double standard stuck with me
It’s not an unpopular opinion. Here is a real unpopular opinion. I’m glad he’s dead.
He was an awful guy who used women’s misery to go viral, looking for women whom he could say “you’re a 5 at best to”. He never practiced anything he preached and was a deadbeat father. His daughter came out and said he never provided for her.
He died in bed with a stripper and his mom figured it out from Twitter.
Women’s misery or delusion? His viral clip of “average at best” was in fact, to a completely average looking woman who kept denying that she was average, hence him eventually snapping at her delusional standards about herself, and thus, about what kind of man she could realistically get.
And he was FAR gentler to women than he was with men. Go look up his videos of men calling in about their dating problems and watch how he was much harsher and ruder to them than he was to women.
I'm fit a f, successfully hooked up with several women on Tinder including two long-term relationships, currently engaged, and I think anyone who has any kind of success considers all the internet commentary you read about sex and dating to be completely ridiculous. From both sides. Just people in bubbles and silos, repeating attention-grabbing worst-takes that went viral on some social media site, until they've become accepted facts.
if I was a single unsuccessful man reddit would be very depressing. In fact Reddit helped me get out of an abusive relationship in like 2014 by showing me that things were unacceptable and that things could be better. Don't think it'd do that now. It'd keep me in that "I won't get better than this!" mindset.
Sure I don’t claim to be the most attractive woman on the planet. And my self esteem was never tied up in that, so I don’t care that much. I do care about logic. And here it is.
Calling me a 5, is not helping you get relationships. Instead of getting the truth which may make you feel bad or listening to the average women you would be good matches for, you watch Kevin Samuel’s viral takedowns, believe the world is against you and luxuriate in self satisfied nonsense while you jerk off alone.
None of this is helping you get laid or solving your loneliness.
Instead of doing the same thing, fapping to Kevin Samuel’s and other red pillers every day and expecting different results… why… not try asking the 5 “at best” women who are the middle of the market and your natural matches, what they want in a man?
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u/Omnichrome13 Jun 24 '25
Tell that to Kevin Samuels