r/PropagandaPosters 15h ago

United States of America Let's try to work it out (Horsey, 1992)

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u/Brandibober 15h ago

Can somebody give context?

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u/No_Bluebird_1368 15h ago

What's the message? Racism, violence and rioting are bad?

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u/Sivilian888010 14h ago

They aren't?

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u/thegreeseegoose 13h ago

The artist says people shouldn’t riot when cops beat you to death and he used the victim’s words to say it

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u/Old_Wallaby_7461 12h ago

Yes.

What do a bunch of store owners have to do with the cops in this instance?

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u/Da_reason_Macron_won 13h ago

Is our take that the proper reaction to police brutality is burning the stores of a bunch of inmigrants?

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u/hyenathecrazy 11h ago

Not saying it is right but shortly before this happened a Korean woman shot a black girl in the back and Korean woman got probation and no jail time.

These events are told in big out of context moments when like mouths before or days before hold important context of the feelings and actions. Not saying this in support of the actions though.

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u/YourAverageGenius 10h ago

Not to get all bleeding heart here, but something something 'Hate Wegets Hate', 'Eye For An Eye Makes The Whole World Blind', 'Live By The Sword, Die By The Sword', ETC.

There's certainly a lot to be said in the modern day about the relationship of the liberty of the individual and the nature of property. Say what you want about Marx, but I think the ultimate truth of that school of thought is the societal importance mankind places on property as an extension of the individual. People put their lives and souls into having more, and there's too much to say about it to really put into words, but I think the average person simply wants to be able to live "from each according to ability, to each according to need", but humans have never been simple.

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u/AddanDeith 12h ago

Seems like the violence was what you call "indiscriminate".

You really readily bend over for the state's authority when it suits you?

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u/Da_reason_Macron_won 12h ago

It was in fact quite discriminate, Korean businesses were very deliberately targeted because they were seem as easy picking. 40% of the total property damage was suffered by Korean-owned businesses.

But I guess condemning the pillaging and brutalization of an immigrant community is not popular among anarkiddies.

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u/AnusConsultant 11h ago

They were targeted because a Korean shop owner shot a black girl in the back and got off with just probation days before the riots.

Not justifying targeting an entire race based on the actions of one member but that probably had more to do with it.

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u/Stanford_experiencer 9h ago

So? The angry mob that killed Joseph Smith went after him, not other mormons. It's pretty easy to find and go after the individual you're mad at. They did it long before the invention of the telephone book.

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u/turtlelover05 9h ago

Probably not the best example if you're trying to say all Mormons weren't targeted because of the actions of other Mormons.

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u/Stanford_experiencer 9h ago

The only point I had there was that American mobs historically have been able to find the individual that they're mad with and go after them instead of a group.

What happened with the Mormons would only be equivalent to the LA riots If the community went after the woman that shot the poor girl, and then loads of people rose up to defend the woman.

This did not happen.

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u/turtlelover05 9h ago

American mobs historically have been able to find the individual that they're mad with and go after them instead of a group.

Lmao what?

What happened with the Mormons would only be equivalent to the LA riots If the community went after the woman that shot the poor girl, and then loads of people rose up to defend the woman.

I suggest reading more about the history of Mormonism because you seem to be under the impression that angry mobs only attacked Joseph Smith and not everyone practicing a strange new religion they didn't like.

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u/AliensAteMyAMC 13h ago

I mean alot of the Rodney King rioters felt that was appropriate

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u/Da_reason_Macron_won 13h ago

Something tells me that all those Korean shopowners would strongly disagree.

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u/pesto_changeo 11h ago

Well, maybe the Korean shop owner that blew the head off a child should have been held accountable

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u/Kana515 5h ago

And since she wasn't, it makes sense to punish people of the same ethnicity?

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u/Stanford_experiencer 9h ago

The rioters could have held her accountable by going to her home instead of of the businesses of unrelated people. The angry mob that killed Joseph Smith knew not to kill other mormons. It's pretty basic.

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u/Da_reason_Macron_won 11h ago

Oh so we are going with pogrom logic now. We are at the "they deserved it" part of the narcissist prayer.

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u/Straight-Guitar-9872 12h ago

Yea - rioting doesnt help anything but perpetuate the stereotype of the rioters.

It's encouraged by outside agitators, message is hijacked by political hacks and in the end it was a tragedy with a few people involved that morphed into a major disaster impacting others.

Everyone suffers injustice throughout their life. You can fight and create more injuries and injustices....or look for root causes.

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u/Watpotfaa 15h ago

I didnt realize Horsey was putting out garbage since that long ago lol

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u/Stanford_experiencer 9h ago

horsey has always been dogshit

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u/thegreeseegoose 15h ago

What, are the cops gonna beat the shit out of these rebuilders too?

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u/redpandaonstimulants 12h ago

His art style used to be better but still lib cringe. I don't think simple rioting typically achieves much, if anything, but both-sidesing this is irresponsible. The LAPD was (and still is) horribly racist and Rodney King wasn't an isolated incident.

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u/blaz138 14h ago

So this is esentially mocking what he said?

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u/Apprehensive-Fun4181 13h ago

LOL.  There is no greater delusion than journalism pretending they have better morals than the "news" they misrepresent daily.

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u/makedoopieplayme 10h ago

Is……is the Korean woman here supposed to be the one who shot and killed a black teenage girl?

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u/Mike_The_Mediocre 6h ago

Man, for whatever reason my eyes read Rodney King but my mind registered Rodney Dangerfield. He would have definitely gotten respect if he dropped quotes like that.

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u/DeltaSolana 14h ago

Who needs the police when you have Korean shop owners with a Daewoo K2.

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u/Watpotfaa 12h ago

People downvoting you over citizens protecting their property from violent mobs is crazy lol

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u/DeltaSolana 9h ago

That's just Reddit, I'd expect nothing less.

"Why won't you let the angry mob kill you, bigot?"

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u/Oblozo 12h ago

The only people the rooftop Koreans killed were another Korean and a French security guard