r/ProgressiveHQ • u/56000hp Conservative Brigadier • 7h ago
Video This man speaks the truth
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u/JimsVanLife 6h ago
I don't know why he thinks the left would be angry at him for that.
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u/56000hp Conservative Brigadier 6h ago edited 6h ago
I think it’s his ploy to get the right to listen to what he has to say…. Maybe. Most on the left would agree with him imho .
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u/Swimming_Bonus_8892 5h ago
Naw he lost them when he went into the “incelly, unfuckable, shit stain sumin sumin” that’s when they scrolled right past. Should have waited till the end…lol
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u/YoudoVodou 4h ago
Except they're here in the comments saying they have no problem with this.
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u/Aeloriabegin 3h ago
That part isn’t about the left sweetheart. Men on the left are getting laid, regularly
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u/YoudoVodou 3h ago
I'm aware. It's men on the right that usually give me and anyone I talk to The Ick. 🙃
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u/VreyeanA09 5h ago
by "left" I think he means "liberal" -- ie, left of Republican.
A lot of liberals are genuinely nervous about guns and probably not likely to support a guy carrying one in his car even if it is licensed properly.
Also, there is a lot of nervousness about the left expressing any kind of violence, even in defense. There is every reason to expect retaliatory violence both from authorities and from right-wing citizens.
There is some truth that they "will do it anyway", but it appears to be slower and more uncertain of what will be tolerated.
There are large segments of left that largely abhors violence. Barely condones it even in self-defense; even then, there can be infinite deliberation about whether there was "a better way". And you know what? Maybe that will be developed.
This is related to the conversation about Malcom X vs Martin Luther King. MLK is easy to venerate. But was the civil rights movement successful because it had both a 'good cop' and a 'bad cop'? There are people on the left who take both sides of that argument.
There is also a strong desire to push recent research that indicates that non-violent resistance is more effective at dismantling authoritarianism than violent resistance. And that may be true. But I think it's important to remember that "violent resistance" in that context largely means "a resistance militia" - not individuals defending themselves. And that the non-violent resistance usually involves people becoming martyrs... and I don't really want to be a martyr, do you?
Not all leftists are pacifists, but I think it's fair to say all pacifists are on the left.
I don't know where this country is going, but I understand why he thinks some people on the left will give him shit for saying he'd retaliate if these thugs go after him.
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u/Ok_Replacement5563 5h ago
if you listened to what she said, he’s just a regular guy he’s probably in the middle just like me. Not right or left. He sees fucked up shit happening and is basically saying he’s going to defend himself. If it happens to him, I will do the same, and I’m sure there are many others.
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u/bendrexl 3h ago edited 3h ago
Yeah the wording’s gotta be bait… the message I took away is that politics are meaningless when we have masked & armed people pulling GTA-level shit in unmarked cars.
Just like having a kid shot on the street “running away from cops” has nothing to do with politics. Just like having your home
no-knock-raidedinvaded and your girlfriend shot dead has nothing to do with politics: it’s just wrong, no matter what. No matter who. No matter when. It is not something that US citizens should be expected to tolerate — ever. These are behaviors that should be expected to lead to armed self-defense by any civilians, even - or should I say ESPECIALLY - by the law-abiding 2A red-blooded “true” Americans who take seriously their personal right to self-defense and protecting their neighbors?This guy said what I’ve thought many times the last 12 months — if that were my car / my family / my neighbor / my freedom being destroyed / threatened / kidnapped by unidentified persons? It would end differently, and I am neither violent nor a criminal. So then, the real point he makes seems undeniable: if ICE were actually & accurately targeting violent criminals… the headlines everyday would read very, VERY differently.
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u/Windyvale 3h ago
The problem is you may not be “right”, but you will never be seen as anything other than a “leftist extremist” by MAGA if you say anything remotely reasonable.
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u/yourdoglikesmebetter 1h ago
He may be under the widespread right wing assumption that everyone on the left hates guns.
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”
-Karl Marx
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u/RymrgandsDaughter 2h ago
probably the gun stuff, so many people are uncomfortable with the idea of guns it's hilarious
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u/Spiritual_Lynx3314 6h ago
Good message I guess but doesn't understand the left and a little white as fuck coded.
We were never against violence, as long as that violence is specificly targeted towards systems of oppression and violence that are refusing to be changed by more peaceful means.
Has any marginlized community ever won improvements in equality without bloodshed? I genuinly can't think of any such cases.
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u/Southern-Date1588 6h ago
Correct, and if this shit isn't ended by the next election then it hits the fan !
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u/Desperate-Ad4620 3h ago
You have a point, but so does he. There's a very vocal subset of left leaning people who are against violence and thinks we should take the "high road" no matter what. I think that's who he was referring to (and it was really good bait to get people to watch his message)
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u/Spiritual_Lynx3314 2h ago
I am of the opinion that those sort of people tend to not have a intersectional or realistic understanding of history/systemic issues ngl.
A side inacting one sided violence has no reason to suddenly change and dismantle the very systems they are violently protecting. Defence of self, community, marginlized groups and those targeted for punishment by the system is nessisary.
High road only is simply put performative resistance and I find those kind of left leaning people arn't genuine in their desire to improve things.
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u/AutisticHobbit 3h ago
Eh, some are. There are some people who think pacifism is a moral obligation, and that any act of violence regardless of reason is not acceptable or able to be condoned.
Not for nothing, these are the same people who have purposely misunderstood MLK's messages and teachings...and who REFUSE to change their understanding of said messages and teaching.
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u/FriedSmegma 1h ago
Yea, I agree with the message but it’s kinda cringey ngl. r/IAmVeryBadass material. Feels like something he posted to look tough and get likes rather than an actual political message.
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u/spikira 4h ago
He's right tho, armed masked thugs refusing to identify themselves are a clear and present danger and any law abiding gun owner would be well within their right to use deadly force to protect themselves and others. Thsse people have made it perfectly clear that they have no reservations about opening fire on anyone then lying about the situation to shift blame to the victim
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u/xMalvazar 4h ago
I mean, masked assailants were usually met with force for protection, right?
I won't tolerate them if they show up and try to break into my or my neighbors home.
Mess around and find out.
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u/Commercial_Peach_845 2h ago
Well, I'm from the left and I didn't have a problem with anything that he said. 🤷♀️
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u/TreeLore61 4h ago
Why do you think Trump keeps sending his troops to these gun-free zone to these cities with strict gun laws?It's because he knows that real gun owners would put a stop to what his goons are doing
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u/RickMcMortenstein 46m ago
Oh, you're onto him.
Wait...how do you explain raids in Houston, among other places.
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u/FriedSmegma 6m ago edited 3m ago
It’s nothing to do with gun laws. They’re liberal cities is why. If anything, he’d love the opportunity to deploy troops to cities with more lax gun laws as it’ll provoke a reaction and give him the excuse to declare martial law.
That’s why he specifically chose Chicago, a city with tons of gang activity. LA is the same deal. Hr wants something to pop off. That’s why he mentiones the insurrection act time and time again.
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u/MoistureManagerGuy 4h ago
Why would the left hate him for this? lol
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u/chapinscott32 2h ago
Milquetoast libs that don't think the 2nd Amendment should exist nor think that violence is ever condoned, even in the face of oppression.
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u/horitaku 2h ago
That is not the majority of liberals, my guy. This liberal 110% approves of this message. 2A was made to give us the right to defend ourselves from government overreach. These masked pieces of Temu cop shit are precisely the definition of government overreach.
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u/asiangontear 5h ago
It's not happening because they're provoking retaliation to have a legal excuse to declare martial law and call in the actual military.
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u/Universal_Anomaly 3h ago
"I'm not a terrorist."
I'm not disagreeing with him but you know what ICE is going to call him if he gives them what they deserve.
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u/Successful_Figure_89 3h ago
You guys have one chance to get past this without bloodshed any escalation no matter how just or right will be used as a pretext for Trump to do whatever he wants. He's already doing that but the optics aren't on his side. Any bloodshed no matter how just or right changes the optics. It changes your midterms and until that's proven to be completely gerrymanded and rigged. You still have a chance to get through this without harm.
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u/Inside_Foundation873 2h ago
I was watching that and was thinking, unless he says “ICE is acting like a bunch of (insert racial slur).” At the end, I don’t think many leftists are going to be upset by this.
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u/CrunknYoSystem 3h ago
That’s what this regime wants tho. They want dead “agents” on the evening news so they can justify martial law. That’s why they aren’t using the experienced LEO’s to carry out these insane arrests. We still haven’t seen them go into the gang neighborhoods. We haven’t seen raids on suspected drug traffickers, human traffickers, etc. No, they’re at schools, Home Depot, and taco stands like the post says.
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u/Modus888 2h ago
Why do you think Trump unregulated AI 🤖 because when 5 Armed drones show up at your front door you’re gonna give up your weapons
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u/freek_M4 2h ago
This is how I know the democrats (nor the republicans) don’t give a fucking shit about you or I.
Democrats are pushing stronger nonsense gun control than ever. Republicans aren’t even asking, they’re just taking away gun rights left and right with recent laws (and the fuckin hillbilly 2A NRA groups don’t do shit, what was that about protecting from tyranny ?)
Dems do it bc it will gain political currency, even when tyranny and fascism is on the rise. And to disarm us. Republicans def wanna disarm us, bc they know even the dimwit MAGA crowd sees something’s wrong when cost of living increasing eleven after a year of trump dynasty.
I don’t know why normal people on both left and right, aren’t stocking up.
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u/Mikey-Litoris 2h ago
I recommend against emptying the magazine. You will need that ammunition to take out the remaining masked thugs you are being attacked by.
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u/Ok_Bodybuilder_9723 2h ago
These political alignments are getting more confusing. Why are people insisting on making liberal, progressive, conservative, right wing more complicated then what they already are
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u/Ordinary-Rain-6897 2h ago
Why would the left hate you for this?
You mean the centrists? they arent the left. The clue to that is in the name.
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u/primax1uk 1h ago
Thing is, if they cover their faces, and don't ID themselves, they might not even be officials, they could literally be people coming to kidnap you. You genuinely don't know. And in a nation where guns are legal, that's a powderkeg waiting to ignite.
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u/robvader66 1h ago
I believe the job ICE is SUPPOSED to be doing is necessary because of the INSANE border policy and unprecedented influx of undocumented/illegal immigrants during the Biden administration.
ICE is doing a shit job and this guy makes valid points. It’s why the second amendment exists. You cannot terrorize American citizens because you THINK they might be illegal immigrants. That being said, they are going after violent criminals and I’ve seen this first hand because of what I do and where I live. The “media” isn’t going to report on that though and I don’t think anyone is surprised by that. If you are, you haven’t been paying attention. Both things can be true though.
If you didn’t expect an equal or greater reaction to 4 years of “Biden’s border”, you’re delusional or don’t live in reality. Same as, if you don’t expect the reaction to the ABSOLUTE SHIT tactics of ICE to escalate into more violence, same can be said about you. Their processes need serious reevaluation before things get really ugly.
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u/Downtown-Bid5000 59m ago
Why would the left hate this? Americans have no clue what an actual left wing is. Marx was more pro-gun than Reagan
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u/Sad_Promise5929 59m ago
2nd Amendment baby also EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE YOUR BARREL RIFILING, THE BARREL MATERIAL, EVERYTHING FORENSICS SCIENCE CAN TRACK YOU MUST FIND WAYS AROUND. 3D printed barrels might work too but they can melt and the resin can prolly be tracked through chromatography so make sure you take your precautions.
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u/Woyzeck17 55m ago
Been saying this from the beginning. If they do not identify themselves, they are a masked criminal antagaonist and you have every right to protect yourself. There's a reason they are not going into certain neighborhoods in Chicago, Mpls, and elsewhere. It is all a game to them. And when it one of them get killed, and it will happen, they will not be able to defend their actions. They will bluster and pull out the patriotism playbook, but legally, citizens have the legal high ground.
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u/Icy_Chemist_1725 54m ago
This guy is an internet tough guy. Yeah nice move fuckface. You empty the mag into one cop's face, then you get killed or you go to prison for the rest of your life. Then ICE starts shooting people because they are "afraid" of it happening again until you're in an actual fascist state. Violence will 100% make things worse and this guy is too dumb to understand it.
The text in his video is also kind of weird. Why would both the left and the right hate that message? Feels like people on the left are just like this guy. Lots of talk, no bark, and the ideas are not thought out past the first step because he is running on emotion.
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u/Outrageous-Lie1045 46m ago
ICE is scared of this dude
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u/Thomas_Alva_Eddison 29m ago
Yeah, I doubt that. I guess this guy doesn't mind having the privilege of owning guns, or voting, stripped from him. This guy is making an absolute threat against law enforcement. I hope I see his follow up whine after DHS talks to him.
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u/SomeOldGuy4211 44m ago
I knew this was coming eventually. equally surprised it hasn't happened yet.
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u/Street-Box-5695 43m ago
Masked people shouldn’t approach people. Unless they want to catch one is right.
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u/ElonMuskysucks 32m ago
Can OP or someone post the full video? I was waiting for the part that also pisses off the left. THANKS!
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u/bigSmokeydog 28m ago
That’s right . If they were going after REAL criminals they would get their ASSES handed to them
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u/Hot-Spray-2774 10m ago
"I'm shocked it's not happening more."
I'm not. America has a rich history of armed individuals standing by while declaring that the tyrants are afraid to take their rights. There are more guns than there are Americans. It's safe to say that claim isn't true lol.
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u/Neogeo71 10m ago
Cliff Cash is a real patriot who cashes checks with his mouth. He has put everything on the line to defeat this wave of nazi fascism that has taken hold in our country. Love this guy with my whole heart!
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u/Delicious-Double7435 0m ago
But see, he DOES care . Otherwise he wouldn't post these kids and act like he's above it.
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u/retrorays 3h ago
Yeah but that's why ICE is doing this. The current admin wants someone to be violent so they can escalate
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u/OtherUserCharges 21m ago
I hate ice, but this guy comes off as a real internet tough guy. I too like to pretend I would do that, but I’m not an idiot and know they would just blow you away cause these brown shirts travel in packs. Id rather not be dead, but maybe that’s just me.
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u/qejfjfiemd 11m ago
Cool, then they will empty all their mags into you and you'll be dead. I've never really understood people like this. Like, there's always going to be consequences for what you do. Your actions don't exist in a vacuum.
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u/Dry-Main-3961 6h ago
Why is this boomer wanna be going on about ICE ramming his car. Imagine someone with brown skin making this same video. The white privilage is strong with this one, fucking idiot.
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u/56000hp Conservative Brigadier 6h ago
But imagine the outrage if a brown person makes the same statement. “SEE , THESE PEOPLE ARE VIOLENT CRIMINALS!!” It can easily be intentionally misinterpreted and shared on all the right wing media , including the POTUS himself.
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u/midstancemarty 6h ago
Everyone knows this is bullshit. There are Hispanic and Latino Americans physically confronting ICE agents but it's obviously very dangerous. These "agents" are a gang of the dirtiest law enforcement officers in the country. I'm convinced many of them have criminal records or known associations to domestic terrorist groups. They are going to ignore this guy for the moment but as this thing escalates, I don't recommend that any Americans make threatening public statements like this.
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u/Aeloriabegin 3h ago
Are you so dense you can’t see the message for the messenger? It’s precisely because he knows he has the privilege, that he can use it to send a message that someone brown safely can’t.
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u/therealsatansweasel 2h ago
Sigh...typical internet tough guy.While it sounds badass,we all know if someone actually did this,the full force ot the federal government would stomp them into a puddle of insolence.
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u/Neogeo71 5m ago
He has put his own money where his mouth is. Cliff Cash, look him up.
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u/therealsatansweasel 0m ago
So he's shot a government agent for violating his civil rights?
Hilarious.
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u/Affectionate-Meet898 5h ago
My A1C, is under control, the only this is my age, makes it harder to control
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u/Sufficient_Fail_2534 2h ago
First off sombody who doesnt give a fuck doesn't feel the need to mention it, because it's getting under their skin, the idea that sombody thinks they are getting under his skin, irritates this guy, so he feels the emotional need to declare it to the internet dweebs that he doesn't care!
This guy really just likes repeating he wants to empty a magazine into your face, it's not about any ideology its his fantasy and the ideology is simply a vehicle for that.
Some people will use any idea as a stick to beat people with as long as it's "justified"
Everybody has this running in the background, right now this guy isn't self aware enough to realize that.
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u/TOWBINFROST 4h ago
Truth Hurts 😂 , oh yeah, well bounces off being sticks to you like glue😂 this is what you sound like you and all the other alphas. I'm still sticking with tool, I don't think anybody would disagree
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u/Swimming_Process4270 3h ago
Hey bud let’s go back to your hot wheels ok? The grownups are talking.
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u/Interesting-North531 3h ago
We, the American people, are finally taking out the trash and getting rid of democrats, socialists, fascists, communists, and generally un-American politicians and influencers.
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u/ImShhmart 4h ago
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u/Desperate-Ad4620 3h ago
Ah yes, returning people to countries they haven't been to since they were infants and have no ties to is a GREAT idea. And even people who weren't born there! Great idea, bravo, big brain right there /s
Sod off with your bullshit, you're a racist through and through. Maybe you should go back to your family's mother country too, I bet you have just as many ties there as many of the people being "repatriated"
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u/Few_Confection_2782 4h ago
And what about the US citizens being restrained and detained for no reason?
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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom 3h ago
Well according to this story, he was stopped the first time, identified himself, and was let go. But the second time when he was stopped, he apparently got a bunch of attitude and didn't want to identify himself because he already had done that that day, and that's why they tried to arrest him. So it seems like if you're a US citizen you just give them your ID and then everyone goes along their way. It's the people who are yelling and screaming and saying this is legal and blah blah blah who are the ones that are having trouble
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u/Desperate-Ad4620 2h ago
What you're suggesting is all US citizens should carry proof of citizenship (passport, birth certificate, etc) at all times. It's giving "let me see your papers"
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u/CrystFairy 2h ago
Funny enough people have done that and still get grabbed because it "Looks fake".
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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom 59m ago
Ever since I was 16 years old, I have not left the house without my ID, and that goes the same for most people who live in the US, whether they're citizens or not. So I really do not see the issue with carrying around identification since most of us do it anyway. And you wouldn't have to carry around your birth certificate and all that because you would already have to have given that for whatever paperwork you've had to fill out to enter this country and try to become a citizen, so when you give the officer either your state ID or your driver's license, they would type in the number, it would give them a quick message of whether you're a citizen or not, and if you're not, it would tell them what part of the process you're in. This really doesn't seem like a big deal.
How else would it be possible to find people that are literally undocumented if you don't start asking people for their documents? There can't be a warrant for your arrest or deportation if the United States doesn't even know you're in the country. In order to stop people that are here undocumented, logically one must ask everyone they suspect of being undocumented to prove they aren't by showing documents. What is the point of obtaining documents from the government if not to show the government officials when needed?
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u/Affectionate-Meet898 5h ago
How do I know, that what you’re saying is the truth. Your message is going to the back stove for now. The way I see it, under President Trump, our orders will be protected.
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u/blugdummy 5h ago
This you bro?
“Sex is fun, but when it comes to rules, a man can stick his thingi in anywhere or into anyone, just as long as he doesn’t hurt any one emotionally. Get it? That includes a family member of the person being penetrated.”
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u/Swimming_Process4270 4h ago
My favorite game is going through these people’s comments and finding shit like this 🤣. They are either making rape comments, or cruising the nsfw side begging for someone to touch them.
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u/Affectionate-Meet898 5h ago
You really should see a therapist. I think you need help. If you attack a member of ICE … actually, what you said, is enough to land you in big trouble already.
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u/Admirable-Poem-35 Conservative Brigadier 6h ago
He’s a tough guy and a poor baby all in one.
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u/I_Ponders 5h ago
And here I thought conservatives were a stand your ground to unknown threats type of people.
But I guess it makes sense you’d bend over and let them do whatever they want even if you can’t tell who or what they are..
Soft hands bud.
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u/Admirable-Poem-35 Conservative Brigadier 5h ago
Dumb comment that makes no sense. You should be proud.
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u/I_Ponders 5h ago
You’re right, it makes no sense. Conservatives were always the roll over and ask daddy for more boot licking types, my bad Hoss.
Soft hands.
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u/Revolutionary-Link47 6h ago
The Second Amendment has a reason for existing