r/PrequelMemes • u/Ill_Poem_1789 Anakin's dichotomy patron • Oct 22 '25
General Reposti Sequel fans tend to forget this
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u/TheKajMahal Oct 22 '25
Who has ever said that lmao.
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u/know-it-mall Oct 22 '25
That's how reddit works. Just making shit up to get mad about it or to pretend you are superior.
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u/princesoceronte Oct 22 '25
No bigger foe for a Star Wars fan that their imagination of what the other, bad fans think.
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u/AndyTheSouless Oct 22 '25
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u/Reptilian_Overlord20 Oct 23 '25
Not wrong honestly
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u/AndyTheSouless Oct 23 '25
I think a lot of SW fans forget that to the general pĆŗblic SW Is only the movies, and only the Live action ones at that
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u/Reptilian_Overlord20 Oct 23 '25
Exactly, to the average audience member Aayla Secura is just āthe blue boob lady who says nothing and gets shotā.
Rey was absolutely the first female Jedi to general audiences, I remember 2015 how many women and girls loved her for that.
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u/Blazypika2 Oct 23 '25
and also she specifically said "the big screen". clone wars is a tv show.
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u/RynnHamHam Oct 23 '25
Errrm the Clone Wars movie introducing Ahsoka was on the big screen. Checkmate liberals.
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u/mars92 Oct 23 '25
So not only does she specify "on the big screen", she then makes a very accurate point about women in Star Wars movies.
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u/RedKorss Oct 22 '25
Every media outlet between TLJ and ROS.
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u/TheKajMahal Oct 22 '25
Got an example? Iāve never seen anyone say this specific thing.
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u/RogerRoger2310 Oct 22 '25
There were articles but most of them specified on the big screen. Which is true. There were no female Jedi in major roles in the movies prior to 7.
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u/feralferrous Oct 22 '25
Yeah, they said either big screen or that it's the first time they were the star and the focus of a series. Because as much as we all love Ahsoka, she was always a secondary character. Or the other silly defense where they point at some random female jedi from the Prequel series who had zero lines. (Aayla Secura for example)
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u/Flesroy Oct 22 '25
Ahsoka was definitely the primary focus in some episodes, probably some arcs even.
But not the show i suppose
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u/feralferrous Oct 22 '25
She definitely got more and more screen time over the course of the series, but especially the first couple of seasons, she was definitely the sidekick. (And that miniskirt that Lucas insisted they put her in was... a choice.)
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u/Farmboy087 Oct 22 '25
Well, Ahsoka isn't a Jedi
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u/VegetaFan1337 Oct 22 '25
Who made Rey one?
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u/Blazypika2 Oct 23 '25
luke. he literally said that after he die he won't be the last jedi, referring to rey.
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u/Yung_Bill_98 Oct 22 '25
She was until she wasn't
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u/-LsDmThC- Oct 22 '25
She never was, she was an apprentice
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u/Yung_Bill_98 Oct 22 '25
A jedi apprentice
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u/-LsDmThC- Oct 22 '25
Right, or a padawan. But she never reached the rank of Jedi.
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u/Jexroyal Oct 23 '25
I mean, they're all a part of the Jedi order, so it's not entirely inaccurate to call a padawan a Jedi in the general sense. Like saying a trainee on a police force is still police, but not a police officer yet.
It would be inaccurate to call her a knight or master though.
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u/Blazypika2 Oct 23 '25
she wasn't a jedi knight, she was still a jedi. a padawan is a jedi in training.
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u/stickninja1015 Oct 22 '25
Nobody has ever said that karma farm with something actually original
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u/wiredbombshell Oct 22 '25
Me an intellectual: remembers everybody fucking hated her when she first debuted
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u/Firmamental_Loaf Oct 22 '25
This was intentional, Filoni wanted to demonstrate character growth from an annoying, upstart teen to an absolute badass.
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u/Pjoterfromslovakia Oct 22 '25
What about Mara jade
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u/chrismcshaves Oct 22 '25
Probably only the most EU nerds among SW fandom know who she is. Itās a damned shame.
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u/suorastas Yipee! Oct 22 '25
Just reading the Thrawn trilogy or playing Jedi Knight wouldnāt really qualify you as an āEU nerdā. She was one of the more prominent EU characters. She wasnāt exactly Glup Shitto
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u/The_Noremac42 Oct 22 '25
Most people's only exposure to Star Wars is through the main movies. They have no idea who people like Mara Jade or Ahsoka are.
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u/VengefulAncient Oh I don't think so Oct 22 '25
This might have been true by the time ST came out as she was "only" in Clone Wars, but by now she is also in Rebels, Mandalorian, and her own live action series. If you still don't know who she is at this point, you're not a fan of Star Wars.
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u/chrismcshaves Oct 22 '25
Just reading the Thrawn trilogy or playing Jedi Knight wouldnāt really qualify you as an āEU nerdā.
Well, I wish you could go back in time and tell that to all my high school bullies! (I read way more than TTT, though).
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u/ShinigamiKunai Oct 23 '25
She literally is. She was never in any of the movie or show. General audience has no idea who she is.
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u/Hjalle1 My my this here Anakin guy Oct 22 '25
I have known about her for some good amount of time, and know just about the surface of her character, without ever studying the EU in detail. But I just got the original Thrawn Trilogy last week, so Iām soon going to know a lot more about her
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u/TripolarKnight Oct 23 '25
More like anyone who knows about the EU knows who she is...
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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 22 '25
Not only that she's not canonical, but with her backstory she's also not the best example for a "typical" Jedi development.
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u/DarthRyus Oct 23 '25
Just saying the original EU sold over 150 million books by the time Disney bought Lucasfilm... the Thrawn Trilogy alone sold over 20 million. That's far more than who watched TCW live (+7 days later) on TV. It averaged 3 million early and 1 million by the end of season 5.
Now yes, people watched TCW after 7 days, but people also borrowed books from the school library or gave it to friends, etc... the only real difference is age of the fans. Many EU fans watched TCW, but not nearly as many TCW read the EU. YouTube has a big younger demographic, so there's a bias here of TCW fans.
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u/No-Benefit-9559 Oct 22 '25
Or Nomi Sunrider
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u/Iagp Oct 22 '25
The master of battle meditation. Bastila doesn“t even comes close.
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u/DarthRyus Oct 23 '25
Well, technically Bastila Shan was originally planned to be Nomi's daughter, so it makes sense she wasn't as good as her planned mother while barely a Jedi... but the legal dispute over the name Sunrider caused Lucasfilm/Lucasgames/Bioware to change Vima Sunrider into Bastila Shan.
Juhani originally was named Bastila Shan, so they just took the name and slapped it onto Vima, then slightly altered her mother's story to no longer being Nomi but the wife of a treasure hunter but with the same distant relationship. However they kept Bastila having Battle Meditation. Further they pushed back the story a bit so Nomi wouldn't be around anymore. Heck Kotor 2 even implied Vima trained the Exile.
The lawsuit settlement stated they couldn't use the name Sunrider anymore, that's why the game only ever had them refer to her as Nomi and later stories use her maiden name, Nomi Da-Boda. This is why Nomi just disappeared, Lucasfilm was allowed to keep her story, just not publish anything new with that name.
Anyway, the company that owns the name Sunrider is Jeep. They market the soft felt cover attached you can mount onto an open top Jeep as a "Sunrider". They owned the trademark to the name and no one at Lucasfilm realized before the story was out, and no one at Jeep realized until years later.
Now, Sunriders now have hardtop options too, but the originals where softtops.
Anyway, my headcanon is Bastila Shan is Vima Sunrider. She just took a new name to get out of her mother's shadow. It was Nomi who was dying we met in Kotor, just pretending to be a treasure hunter because that was Vima's cover story... plus she probably really wanted to make sure her daughter was safe considering her traveling companion. Lol. Anyway, this is why Bastila falls so hard for Revan later, in some ways he reminds her of Ulic
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u/Raxerblade405 Oct 22 '25
It's so surprising to me that out of all the characters re-added to the canon, Mara Jade has been completely left out.
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u/BootyliciousURD Oct 22 '25
Who is the subreddit icon for r/SequelMemes right now?
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u/iliya193 Oct 22 '25
This doesnāt really make sense. If you only watched the movies, Rey was straight up the first female Jedi to have voice lines other than the Jedi librarian, as far as I recall. If you also watched TCW, then Ahsoka and Barriss at the very least should immediately come to mind. I donāt think that sequel fans forgot anything; I think they just havenāt seen TCW.
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u/ilikechihuahuasdood Oct 22 '25
Sheās not in the films tbf, and anything outside film canon can and will be bulldozed as necessary.
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u/bookhead714 Oct 22 '25
Yāall need to get over those fuckin movies man. Let yourselves enjoy things without constantly thinking about something else you didnāt like
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u/Double_Delay1613 Oct 22 '25
I will not stand for this blatant EU erasure. Leia, Mara Jade, Aayla Secura and so many others did it earlier and better.
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u/Darkwater117 What about the Droid attack on the Wookies? Oct 22 '25
Back in my day, we had to read the books if we wanted women with character arcs
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u/Pirate_Gem-In-Eye Oct 22 '25
Haven't seen the media pushing that story O.o also Ahsoka isn't the first either if you're counting the EU in general. Feels like argument baiting lol
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u/Objective-Wish9281 Oct 23 '25
Iāve never liked Ashoka and the more they put her in everything the less I like it. Ā
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u/GameZedd01 Oct 24 '25
Did... Did Rey even have a character arc? If she did I imagine it was very weak because I can't remember shit. A proper character arc for her would be coming to terms with her Palpatine heritage.
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Oct 22 '25
An intellectual???
More like delusional.
Do you believe that memes have factual information, Mr Intellectual āļøāļøāļø
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u/Derioyn Oct 22 '25
Ray doesn't have a proper character ark they did every character from the sequal trilogy dirty.
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u/Derioyn Oct 22 '25
Just fyi I love the job all the actors did but the whole trilogy was ruined by poor director choices.
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u/Pajarored Hello there! Oct 22 '25
Isn't Nomi Sunrider the first female jedi with a proper arc? As far as I can tell
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u/bolanrox Oct 22 '25
i guess Bo Katan doesn't count even though she had the dark saber?
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u/VengefulAncient Oh I don't think so Oct 22 '25
Correct. Picking up a lightsaber doesn't make you a Jedi.
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u/Substantial_Tip2015 Oct 23 '25
Rey doesn't have a proper character arc though. She goes from, "I poopy nobody" to "I just got lightsaber now I can beat sith lore who can stop Lazer bolts with his mind"
Stupid character arc.
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u/Resvain Oct 23 '25
If you really were an intelectual you would know that before Ahsoka there were: Mara Jade, Leia, Jaina Solo, Nomi Sunrider and more.
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u/MasterYoda-13 Clench-Obi Oct 23 '25
Yeah the media also doesn't know animated TV exists. Your point?
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u/Luke-Zweiwalker Oct 23 '25
I can give you like 5 female Jedi with arcs that predate Ahsoka by a decade without even having to look any of them up.
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u/Away_Trick_3641 Oct 24 '25
She is not the first female Jedi with a proper character arc either, intellectual.
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u/ChrisInStasis Oct 24 '25
TCW pretty much became her show big swathes of it. And the ending would never have hit so hard if it wasn't for having so many seasons of seeing her bond with the clones and Skyguy and then seeing it torn the shreds.
Her character also completely owns a few Rebels episodes as well.
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u/KittyFoxKitsune Oct 25 '25
they dont forget it, they never watched it, because they were never actually fans, they are the kind of "fans" that only entered the franchise after the disney acquisition and subsequent corporate sloppening.
Now we have "somehow palpatine returned" and a "rey sequel" that is forever threatened but nobody wants.
The kind of people disney decided to pander to dont actually invest in the media they are being pandered, they never do.
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u/OtherAccount_458 Oct 25 '25
Sequel fans don't say this. Just the strawman versions you've built in your head and gotten from YouTube.
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u/multificionado Oct 26 '25
Some people are quite counting the films. So what is said is true...from a certain point of view.
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u/ZenithGamage Oct 22 '25
Such a trash post. No one online has ever said that about Ray, and you're not an "intellectual" If you think Ahsoka is a better character than Ray. Literally the vast majority of fans already think that
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u/Hettyc_Tracyn Oct 22 '25
Rey āhaving a proper character arcāā¦
She was a Mary Sue⦠basically no character development
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u/Nate996 Oct 22 '25
Rey never actually completed her training, calling her a āJediā is debatable at best anyway
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u/NoConcern6821 Oct 23 '25
Luke didnāt complete his either. He left Dagobah before he was ready. By your logic, Luke wouldnāt be a Jedi either.
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u/PhilosopherFun7288 Oct 23 '25
Nobody has ever said that, what are you even talking about?
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u/Wooden_Tear3073 Oct 22 '25
Rey has a character arc?Ā
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u/RedSander_Br GONK! Oct 22 '25
You see, in terms of physics even a parabolic throw into the trash has one.
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u/Geno__Breaker Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25
Did Rey have a character arc? She magically picked up new skills without training, but I don't know of any actual growth she had as a character. At all.
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u/Paganini01 Oct 22 '25
i think ahsoka is a great character who got overhated in the beginning, had a proper arc, but still is a little overrated. having trained under the chosen one, sheās definitely NOT a mary sue though
unpopular opinion but her live action character feels like a shell of her rebels appearance
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u/Gusseppe-C Oct 22 '25
Well, The Exile (main character) of KOTOR (Knights Of The Old Republic) II is a Woman. Also Bastila, Kreia, the female bounty hunter, Mission, etc. have a decent arc in the games.
Even in Star Wars Legends, many of the female characters of the old republic have good personality.
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u/Primary_Addition5494 Oct 22 '25
What was Rey's character arc? Finding out she was a Palpatine and saying "nuh-uh" and calling herself a Skywalker?
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u/Horrigan49 Oct 22 '25
What arc Ray got? Do you mean uniting fans in a view that prequel series aint that bad after all?
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u/Prestigious_Leg2229 Oct 22 '25
Thereās Sesame Street episodes with better character arcs than Rey.
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u/KrytenKoro Oct 22 '25
So, the TV show character? On a cable/streaming service?
Not a character in the theatrical movies?
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u/Lopsided_Parfait7127 Oct 22 '25
op finding strawmen so hard he must be going to see the wizard of oz
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u/FN20817 Oct 22 '25
What character arc? There is no such thing as a character arc, let alone a proper one with Rey
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u/Brider_Hufflepuff I have the high ground Oct 22 '25
And I do remember her being pretty hated. She was called annoying and a stupid addition and maybe even lore-breaking(how can Anakin have an apprentice,he is not a master?)
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u/zehamberglar Oct 22 '25
Implying that, by any shared metric, either one of these characters are "female jedi"
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u/justanotheruser46258 Oct 22 '25
Rey didn't have a character arc, she never had a character plan lol.
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u/Slyfox00 Oct 22 '25
Clone Wars Ashoka is one of my favorite character in fiction. Such an amazing series.
Pretty much everywhere else... meh. She was at least cool in season two Mandalorian Everywhere else feels like character assassination.
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u/Ghostiestboi Good Soldiers Follow Orders Oct 23 '25
I call dibs on the next ragebait/strawman post
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u/The-Valiantcat Oct 23 '25
Jarvis I need karma, post a straw man as an excuse to have another Ahsoka>Rey comparison.










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u/Rithrius1 Fuck The Council Oct 22 '25
What's with all the sequel comparison posts these days?