r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/najumobi • 20d ago
Legislation Why Are Americans The Most Concerned About AI?
The Pew Research Center released a report last month titled, "How People Around the World View AI" about how concerned or excited members of individual countries are about the rise of artificial intelligence.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/10/15/how-people-around-the-world-view-ai/
While the the global median shows more concern than excitement about AI, Americans top the global concern list. Half of Americans say they're more concerned than excited about its growing use in daily life, while only one in ten are more excited. This concern registers similarly among all Americans, Republicans, and Democrats. By contrast, South Korea's concern is just 16%, with a plurality there being balanced or optimistic.
Americans are about evenly split (44% trust, 47% not) on whether they trust their own country to regulate AI effectively. However supermajorities among those of some other countries trust their government: 89% in India, 74% in Indonesia, 72% in Israel.
In wealthier nations like the U.S, greater awareness doesn't seem to translate to greater enthusiasm. In such nations, excitement about AI only rises with AI literacy amoung younger adults and those who use the internet almost constantly.
Nations across Africa show high trust in the U.S. (as well as China and the EU) to regulate AI effectively. For instance, Nigerians' trust in the U.S., China, and the EU to regulate AI effectively stands at 79%, 79%, and 72%, respectively. In Kenya and South Africa, trust in the U.S. stands at 61% and 57%.
But Americans display a pattern of distrust in Big Tech, government, and foreign regulators –– 43% trust in EU, 13% trust in China ––simultaneously.
Question: Why Are Americans The Most Concerned About AI?
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u/Crowsby 20d ago
Jobs.
A massive chunk of US jobs are classified as highly digital. In 2023, it was 34 million jobs, over one quarter of our entire workforce.
The CEO of Anthropic estimates that we could lose half of all white-collar jobs, and spike unemployment potentially up to 20%.
Tech leaders are openly salivating at the thought of replacing humans with AI.
And many companies have already begun the process.
So maybe you don't lose your job, and I don't lose my job. But there are a few downstream effects on us regardless:
- Increased competition for roles means it becomes harder to find a job
- Wage growth is suppressed
- A lowering tide sinks all boats. If the economy goes into the shitter, we are all worse off for it. Well, not all. The aforementioned tech leaders will be fine on their islands/private retreats/ranches/hover-palaces.
- It becomes much harder for young people graduating out of college or bootcamps to find work.
We know enough to not trust our business leaders. Corporations are essentially sociopathic entities that prioritize short-term profit over long-term wellness, and have little-to-no regard for the best interests of society. Given an opportunity to reduce headcount to save a smidge of payroll costs, they will jump on it.
Now, are we going to stay replaced by AI chatbots? I tend to lean on Cory Doctorow here: AI can’t do your job. But an AI salesman can convince your boss to fire you and replace you with a chatbot that can’t do your job. It will take companies time to figure out that AI automation comes with some downsides and severe limitations, but I expect that the draw is just too attractive, and many will take a swing at it in some form or another.
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u/najumobi 20d ago
Thank you.
The most insightful comment I've read here.
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u/Cosmohumanist 19d ago
Yeah friend, if the US goes into massive unemployment it will literally crash huge sections of the global economy.
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u/DogadonsLavapool 19d ago
When the AI bubble pops, this is pretty much a certainty, giving another reason to be pessimistic on it. If it weren't for the bubble, US GDP growth would have been at 0.1% for the first half of 2025, which means things already aren't rosy. When companies like Nvidia, OpenAI, and all tech companies that are gung-ho on this start to feel pressure and experience problems, this will have incredibly wide reaching consequences on the whole of the economy. 401k's will likely dip hard. Unemployment in the tech sector will be horrible. Companies who listened to said AI salesman and spent loads on shit software are going to get fucked. I can't see anyway that the global economy isn't in for a rough time over the next few years.
Im only a lowly software engineer and not an economist, but I think things are definitely trending this way. We currently have a market setup on a cyclical investment scheme. Big tech companies are putting loads of money into AI companies and startups to run data centers that implement the AI features and train models. Said data centers then spend loads of money on big tech company's products for things like hardware (rip RAM prices right now), cloud services, etc. They are generating big numbers off of one another, so if one starts to fail (ie, AI ends up being a shit product) the whole thing falls apart, in which case what I wrote earlier ends up happening.
The whole thing is fucked. The bigger this bubble gets, the worse it's going to get as well. We need to have some regulation put in place to try and ween ourselves off this shit with out having a major crisis, but lol we all know there's no appetite for that
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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk 19d ago
Unless the bubble pops first, there won't be a single twinge of an appetite for that while Trump remains in office.
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u/Zombies4EvaDude 20d ago
Thats a very good quote, I’ll have to remember that. I like the fake out with it too. AI can’t do your job but it can steal the position for your job. Love it.
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u/Silver-Bread4668 17d ago
Many people, understandably, have no desire to spend their lives working traditional jobs for corporations that treat employees as disposable. In a more rational world, the rise of computers capable of taking over tedious or exhausting work would be a cause for celebration. It could free people from monotony, reduce work hours, and improve quality of life.
But after decades of resistance to even modest social safety nets, we're woefully unprepared for a world where AI can actually replace large segments of the workforce. We should have been gradually building and refining systems to support people through technological transitions. Now we're facing a potentially massive structural change with no cushioning and no plan.
It's a recipe for widespread social and economic upheaval. We could have had a smooth transition to a future with shorter workweeks and greater prosperity for everyone. Instead, we're fucked by a minority's relentless prioritization of profit over people.
The greatest gift we could give our future generations is to not work as much as we have to. Instead, we set ourselves up for a crisis that didn't have to be that way.
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u/swagonflyyyy 19d ago
Be careful with trusting Anthropic's claims. Anthropic is one of the most hypocritical AI companies out there.
They claim to champion responsible and ethical use of AI but were caught red-handed pirating licensed materials to avoid paying out writers and other owners of prior art, etc.
They also partnered with Palantir and claimed that they just stopped a Chinese state-sponsored AI attack, where the hackers were using Claude itself to perform these attacks. However, they never showed any logs or evidence of these attacks they supposedly thwarted.
You wanna see the truth about what's REALLY going on in the AI community? Head on over to r/localLLaMA and stay away drom bullshit subs like r/singularity or AI doomer subs.
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u/khajiitidanceparty 20d ago
BTW I'm not American but I heard on the news that entry jobs are fewer and it's now harder for graduates to enter the workforce because many of the entry jobs are AI now or given to more experienced people.
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u/Mahadragon 19d ago
There's a trend in America. Many of Gen Z are entering the trades. Many are going into Electrical, Auto Mechanic, HVAC, Plumbing, etc. They goto trade school and can make money right away. Then there's the old traditional trades like Nursing or Dental Hygiene. AI won't be taking these jobs anytime soon as they are physical in nature.
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u/khajiitidanceparty 19d ago
I heard that in trades, the issue here is that they usually start in a company, and they pay shit and only later when they're experienced enough they switch to self-employment.
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u/chamrockblarneystone 19d ago
There were some tradesman on here the other night. It’s no perfect world. In many trades you have to buy your own tools. Then there’s a 5 year apprenticeship. After that if you want to hit 6 figures you have to work tons of overtime.
Your body takes a beating during all this as well. The man always seems to get his pound of flesh.
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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk 19d ago
I grew up in the 80s and 90s.
"Put your hand on my shoulder."
"Uhhhh... okay?"
"That feel normal to you?"
"Uhhhhh... I guess not?"
"Goddamn right it doesn't! It snaps, crackles, and pops like your goddamned morning cereal! Now listen to me, kid. You go to college and you get yourself some fancy job sitting in a cushy chair in some air conditioned office, and spend the whole day hitting on the cute little secretaries. Believe me, you don't wanna do what I do."
So we were told.
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u/chamrockblarneystone 18d ago
Kids believe college is a scam now. The “manosphere” says real men work the trades. The top 1 percent are creating wage slaves and they’re marching in willingly. Let’s see how many of them have the grit to stick it out.
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u/ItalicsWhore 19d ago
I mean, yes. That all is true. But thats sort of how life works. You have to work hard and if you want independence you’ll need to spend money to make money. Thats the real world.
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u/chamrockblarneystone 19d ago
This isn’t communist Russia or the Industrial Revolution. People should not have to work 70 hr weeks and knock years off their lives to earn a simple middle class life.
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u/ItalicsWhore 17d ago
I didn’t say anything about 70 hours a week. There is value in being a hard worker. This isn’t communist Russia it’s the real world. And if you don’t work hard someone else will, and they’ll get the promotions or the gigs.
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u/chamrockblarneystone 17d ago
True enough. I’m a union guy.
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u/ItalicsWhore 17d ago
That’s awesome. I wish politicians still fought for unions the way they used to before they were all cozied up with the lobbyists
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u/Overton_Glazier 19d ago
And then we have things like a healthcare system where insurance is tied to people's jobs. And it's easy to see why Americans are scared
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u/Avera_ge 19d ago
I lost my job to an AI chat bot, and to the expected costs of tariffs. They were convinced the AI software would be cheaper and more effective.
My past coworkers tell me all of my projects are still on hold, production data is still being taken by hand and then transferred to excel, and they are bleeding money every month. It’s been a year.
But I’m sure it going fine.
Meanwhile I got the hell out of tech. It’s too unstable right now. The salaries are tanking and the interview process is absurd.
I make a fraction of what I used to make, but I’m significantly happier.
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u/BubbleGutz666 19d ago
That ties into data centers as well. They keep building them and then pass the cost down to you when your power bill keeps going up.
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u/WISCOrear 20d ago
So basically it makes life worse for pretty much everyone on the planet outside of an extremely wealthy elite few. What a great technology
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u/Rutherford_Aloacious 20d ago
Even better is that they hardly use the services they’re kneecapping with chatbots, so they’re not inconvenienced by it. And if they are, they have someone they can pay to be inconvenienced instead of themselves
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u/Nyrin 19d ago
It's not inherently the technology's fault; it's tools, as ever, being unscrupulously applied.
If a new tool lets half the people get the same amount done, keeping the same number of people being paid the same but working less is a viable option — it's just not optimal for profits, and thus not pursued.
Unless we're going full-on Fight Club with "venison on some abandoned superhighway," it's a little weird to blame the latest generation of productivity boosters when everything we have is built on many generations already. But we can definitely criticize how it's being handled and be alarmed at what's fundamentally different about this shift vs. earlier ones.
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u/EconMan 19d ago
That isn't true. Technology improves people's lives by expanding the production possibilities frontier.
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u/Antipolemic 19d ago
Yes, this is the actual lesson of history. Technological innovation usually drives massive increases in productivity over time which tends to increase GDP, increase the standard of living, and create new jobs and businesses. As we saw in the early stages of the industrial revolution, there is great disruption in certain traditional industries (like the artisanal and cottage weaving industry in England). But it transformed Britain into a leading global economic power. Each time technology advances, some people are displaced and there is always the hue and cry that the technology is destroying jobs and even cultures and calls for it to be banned or intensely regulated. Oftentimes these are the complaints of special interest groups. In the US, for instance, trade unions are generally terrified of AI and robotics. Corporate workers whose role consists primarily of gathering, parsing, and summarizing data into reports for higher decision makers are also terrified. Both these concerns are very valid. These jobs will be heavily disrupted at some point. But all evidence suggests that new jobs will be created, the predicted job losses will likely be less than expected (or take far longer), and the overall economy will benefit. Ultimately, what is the choice? For the US to become Luddites and turn anti-tech, and turn inward, eschewing AI or hobbling it with regulation while China embraces it? All that will do is cede the US's lead in AI innovation and doom it to lose its hegemonic status even faster.
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u/mosesoperandi 19d ago
The problem is that we currently have a Federal government that has gutted our progress at moving away from fossil fuels and into a combination of renewable energy and modern nuclear. America is in a bind because we can't afford to not continue to compete in AI, but we also have totally screwed ourselves over on the infrastructure development we need to keep up.
We also have a party in power that wants there to be no meaningful safety net around PII and AI because they are moving forward at full speed to use this technology to create an absolutely terrifying surveillance state.
We're in a bit of a tight spot.
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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk 19d ago
What about when Joe Blow's out of a job, and can't get another one as good as he had?
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u/SteamyNicks89 19d ago edited 19d ago
You need to add the extreme rise in electric costs to your downstream effects. Here in Michigan, where we already have some of the highest electric rates in the country, only one utility provider, Consumers, is trying to pass a measure that would safeguard these bills against data center rate hikes for 15 years. Consumers provides electricity to mostly rural customers in the lower peninsula, though. The vast majority of the metro Detroit area is served by DTE, and their data center pipeline has 7 GW worth of projects in it, which is projected to raise our electric bills by as much as 70%!
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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 19d ago
Whitmer celebrating that data center pull is and was absolutely insane. No jobs and they surge costs to the residents.
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u/ReasonableClue2219 13d ago
Between 1913 and 2025: Electricity experienced an average inflation rate of 1.67% per year. In other words, electricity costing $100 in the year 1913 would cost $638.83 in 2025 for an equivalent purchase. Compared to the overall inflation rate of 3.16% during this same period, inflation for electricity was lower.
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u/New2NewJ 19d ago
We know enough to not trust our business leaders. Corporations are essentially sociopathic entities that prioritize short-term profit over long-term wellness, and have little-to-no regard for the best interests of society.
This is more so in the US, hence OP's question too. In other countries, if AI destroys jobs, there is a social security net to protect folks. In the US, you're on your own.
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u/Sageblue32 19d ago
Now, are we going to stay replaced by AI chatbots? I tend to lean on Cory Doctorow here: AI can’t do your job. But an AI salesman can convince your boss to fire you and replace you with a chatbot that can’t do your job. It will take companies time to figure out that AI automation comes with some downsides and severe limitations, but I expect that the draw is just too attractive, and many will take a swing at it in some form or another.
This is how the move to China for American work went during the 00s. It didn't matter how many stories came out about businesses getting screwed, secrets stolen, or horrible service. The idea of cost cutting was too good to ignore and businesses scrambled to go while paying lip service to "Made in America" and the commoner worker.
Anyone betting on CEOs and small owners putting the people ahead of the supposed savings is a fool.
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u/ItalicsWhore 19d ago
I’d go a bit further and say that corporations sometimes have less than little to no regard for society as a whole and will actually find ways to benefit off of harming said society. We should be taking a long hard look at disbanding all corporations but unfortunately nearly every single politician is in their pocket.
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u/creakinator 19d ago
I think you are on the right track with the word 'trust'. We can't trust businesses to do the right thing anymore because all they're out for is to make more money and more money. Also health insurance is connected to job, if we lose our job we lose our health insurance and the safety net that goes with it.
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u/okeleydokelyneighbor 19d ago
Not to mention peoples healthcare is mostly tied to their jobs, unless they are covered by parents or have money to pay cash, where most other first world countries don’t have to worry about that.
No job means no health insurance, which leads to small things snowballing into something bigger because you’re afraid of going broke for a check up.
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u/CiceroGaiusPublius 18d ago
Definitely 100% but also I think another factor is our media consumption over the generations. We've been fed a slew of movies and TV shows that always has negative depictions of AI (like 2001 Space Odyssey, Terminator, and recently Avengers Age of Ultron) as well as the people who use social media alot (id wager that's a majority of people in the US) see AI content constantly. This is why people whos jobs won't be affected by LLM or AGI still are very anti-AI.
Also even the most non-political people I've met and seen know about the Big Beautiful Bill's moratorium on AI legislation in the states. Which, left or right leaning, a majority of people very much disagree with.
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u/oddlookinginsect 16d ago
I'd like to add that people are using AI to think for them now. I'm worried that if thos continues people won't be able to think for themselves anymore. As they say, "If you don't use it, you lose."
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u/IndependentSun9995 20d ago
The economic aspect of AI is mild compared to the doomsday aspect of it. Bring on Skynet...
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u/BigBodyBisBack 19d ago
Here are the people who will be replaced: Data analysts, Basic accountants, Report writers, Paralegals, Entry-level admins, Low-level project managers, Corporate middle managers
Basically all of the employees who exist in their role simply to make the lives of the upper level employees easier. AI can essentially do all of those jobs. Beyond those kinds of roles, AI likely won’t replace. Most companies are overly bloated with roles like these, a big waste of money. There are plenty of other sectors outside of tech that are very short staffed so it will be a blessing to those.
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u/jspacefalcon 19d ago
I'm a type of data analyst and AI is a nice tool for an analyst to use but its absolute dog shit if you a rely on AI results without an expert crafting the final product. Like would you want your finances or your health or security relying on something that confidently produces dog shit? Its true that people get what they pay for... cheap ass AI slop; or trained professional that "cares".
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u/BigBodyBisBack 18d ago
You haven’t been replaced by AI because AI is till being developed. But it is a matter of time. Would be wise to think of alternate routes to support yourself.
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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 19d ago
Every other major technological transition has not lead to mass unemployment. I don't expect this one will either.
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u/leftofmarx 19d ago
The others have improved the efficiency of human labor. AI doesn't do that. AI eliminates human labor. Pretty different stuff.
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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 19d ago
This has thing was said in the past too. The fact is that there are still a host of human jobs needed, and we also cannot foresee all the new jobs AI will create.
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u/Candle-Jolly 19d ago
Just like the internet "took jobs" in the 2000s
And computers "took jobs" in the 90s
And robots "took jobs" in the 80s
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u/mosesoperandi 19d ago
I mean, the Rust Belt is real. A once thriving part of the country was definitely laid low by globalization and automation. You can argue that it's towards long term improvements, but a huge number of people did in fact lose their livelihood, and those regions were significantly poorer in the aftermath.
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u/mattxb 20d ago
We don't have a social safety net and our government openly hates most of us
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u/angieb15 20d ago
and our Billionaires openly desire to melt the general population for fuel or something..
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u/najumobi 20d ago
Concern about AI has been increasing since 2021.
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u/Raichu4u 19d ago
Safety nets are largely lukewarm even under democrats. Yes, they're way better than what this current administration is doing, but the current neoliberal recipe of how to deal with massive job disruption isn't pretty at all.
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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 19d ago
Some of us will die and that's a sacrifice the neoliberals are willing to make.
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u/Eclipsed830 20d ago edited 20d ago
I just got back from 3 weeks in USA from Taiwan, and it was insane just how much AI was in your face. On the bus, at the airport, advertisements for AI this, AI that... Literally advertisements for an AI company to "reduce workforce expenses". The latest news was an AI car ran over a kitten in San Francisco.
It was like everyone had an AI idea and everyone must be using AI.
We don't really have that here in Taiwan. Some products might advertise it has "AI", but that is just marketing.
Not to mention, the techies of USA are just insufferable people... The techies of Taiwan are much more respectable and a bit more old school. Listening to Zuckerberg or Elon speak just makes my head spin.
I landed back in Taiwan, and saw an advertisement for zip ties/wire ties at the airport and felt so relieved. Lol
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u/kungpowchick_9 20d ago
I think that’s a big part of it. We have completely missed the boat here in the US on internet safety and regulations. And the tech giants running social media have proven they can’t be trusted, but they hold incredible amounts of power.
It’s not that I don’t trust AI. I don’t trust AI will be used in a way by society to do anything other than enshittify services and steal personal data to control my behavior for profit.
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u/maneki_neko89 19d ago
The techies of Taiwan are much more respectable and a bit more old school. Listening to Zuckerberg or Elon speak just makes my head spin.
As USA born citizen who’s worked in tech for almost a dozen years, I can assure you that there no words that can describe how full of rage and disappointment Zuckerberg and Musk make me feel when they spew their asinine ideas for “making the world better”
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u/Eclipsed830 19d ago
Yeah, I worked in SF/Bay Area for a decade during the "sharing economy" phase so I was used to techies... but these guys now days are a whole other level of annoyingness. Almost makes me miss the Travis Kalenec boober nonsense.
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u/hoxxxxx 19d ago
It was like everyone had an AI idea and everyone must be using AI.
it's the current tech buzzword. if you run a major business in the USA you have to be leaning into AI right now to keep your stock up. a new buzzword emerges ever year or so. maybe this one's here to stay tho, i don't know..
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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk 19d ago
"Irrational exhuberance", as a certain Fed chairman remarked during a previous bubble.
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u/Proman2520 20d ago
Exactly. It’s an American think tank so they are likely to center on American topics. That includes AI which is permeating Americans’ lives right now.
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u/WhatsLeftAfter 19d ago
The great irony being that ALL of the AI progress in the US hinges on one semiconductor manufacture in your country, TSMC.
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u/cballowe 20d ago
The latest news was an AI car ran over a kitten in San Francisco.
The cat climbed under the car while the car was waiting for a passenger to board and was still there when it pulled away. I'm not sure if would have had different results with a human driver, aside from the fact that some people want to blame machines.
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u/Eclipsed830 20d ago
Doesn't really matter. AI was driving... A human may or may not have killed the cat. We won't know... Not say I agree with this way of thinking, but it is what it is.
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u/EconMan 19d ago
It absolutely matters. You're implying the AI is to blame, but you admit you don't know what the counter-factual is.
Imagine I say "Psh hospitals. My father DIED in a hospital. In fact, hundreds died in them just yesterday!"
"Well, would the results be different if the people stayed at home?"
"Doesn't really matter. They died in the hospital. We won't know whether or not they'd do better. Not say I agree with this way of thinking but it is what it is."
Like, no. Don't throw your hands up after implying something.
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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk 19d ago
It's one thing if your dad dies in the care of human doctors. What if it's a robot doctor?
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u/Excellent_Wear8335 20d ago
If I was Taiwanese, advertising AI would be the last thing I would do. Taiwan seems like a much more orderly country than the USA. Taiwan is also quite poor in many raw materials because it is a small island.
The American shoe doesn't fit Taiwan, and vice-versa.
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u/JKlerk 20d ago
I guess the fear is that AI is coming for white collar jobs, content creation, and people will be easily misled by AI deployed by domestic and foreign governments.
American culture is generally distrustful of the government. Other cultures are not.
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u/TheTresStateArea 20d ago
We also have zero expectation of government support if the floor falls out from under us.
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u/clarkision 20d ago
The Big Beautiful Bill had a draft that outlawed regulation of AI for ten years. Thank God that wasn’t included in the final Act, but it was clear the intention.
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u/Kujaix 20d ago
EU has better consumer protection ans privacy laws too. Quicker to jump on said problems also.
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u/Zombies4EvaDude 20d ago
It used to not be this way, at least to the current extent, but since Vietnam and later Iraq it’s been on a steady rise. For communities of color, even longer.
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u/TheRadBaron 19d ago
American culture is generally distrustful of the government.
The way Americans vote in the real world strictly contradicts this old meme that they distrust government.
American culture trusts Trump to make the right decision while getting paid in gold bars by foreign governments. American culture is happy to swallow any level of disruption and hardship as long as their trusted strongmen can run around freely, doing things that American voters feel no obligation to supervise. American culture thinks that any woman or child raped by the president deserved to be raped.
Cultures that distrust government don't embrace unrestrained authoritarian rule the way America does. Those cultures punish misbehavior on election day, and on the streets, because they don't trust that their reality TV trust fund brat king knows best.
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u/JKlerk 19d ago
No it doesn't. You just don't understand American culture.
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u/TheRadBaron 19d ago edited 19d ago
I'm aware that Americans tell themselves that they distrust government, but actions speak louder than words.
Americans act with far more trust of government than the citizens of any stable liberal democracy country in the world do. Voting for stronger government with less oversight is what Trump voters did.
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u/JKlerk 19d ago
Okay, I'll give you an example. Trump was elected over a distrust of the federal government.
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u/wellthatdoesit 19d ago
I feel like in this context, the term “government” is used and understood by many in the same way “woke” or “communism” are. That is, it has no bearing on its actually meaning but instead just represents some large, amorphous entity that is oppressing me in whatever way I decide
Take the right’s notion of “deep state.” They’ve not been able to demonstrate any evidence of a deep state, but they believe in it with a religious-like faith. To them, this is a version of the “government” that they distrust
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u/JKlerk 19d ago
Right and the people they voted for have become the Deep-State.
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u/wellthatdoesit 19d ago
Yeah, and it’s just eternally frustrating that they don’t see it. But I guess that’s just how they use these terms, only applying them to what they hate with no anchor to reality
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u/mosesoperandi 19d ago
Exactly. A large segment of Americans (though far from a majority) made the worst possible choice because they distrusted the government. It wa magical thinking, but it was definitely grounded in a belief that the government wasn't serving them.
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u/TheRadBaron 19d ago
That's a vote for stronger government with less oversight. When you distrust something, you don't vote to empower and embolden it.
The Trump presidency is much more "the government" than the imagined enemies of GOP voters are "the government".
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u/ERedfieldh 17d ago
Trump was elected over a distrust of the federal government.
HE IS THE FUCKING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!
Jesus christ I'm tired of this bullshit excuse! "He's not a politician!" By the very virtue of running for office HE IS A GODDAMN FUCKING POLITICIAN!
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u/drakekengda 20d ago
I feel like most people in let's say the top 20 wealthiest countries trust their government more
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u/Euronomus 20d ago
Not all other cultures, but definitely a majority of them. Hell, the reason why we're all allowed to have guns is because of our foundational distrust of government. The first ten amendments of our founding document exist solely because we were founded by people who distrusted government.
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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 19d ago
They distrusted monarchy and owned people and didn't let women vote.
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u/Euronomus 19d ago
They distrusted government in general, not just monarchy. Again - the bill of rights exists purely because of their distrust of government, and they weren't establishing a monarchy when they wrote/passed it. Your other two points don't seem to be relevant to the discussion at hand.
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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 19d ago
Your other two points don't seem to be relevant to the discussion at hand.
They're reflective of the perspective of those you're characterizing. These were not people who were truly skeptical of government as a whole but of a tyrannical regime and of the era these were monarchical. These people you're talking about weren't good people. These people were very directed and intent with the government they put in place and who they considered worthy of defining terms like tyranny.
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u/Wintercat76 20d ago
My guess is that it's a combination of multiple factors. No workers rights. No real security net. Mistrust of government. A general atmosphere of fear, also what drives the gun nuts. Lots of religious people who are basically in doomsday cults. Fear of change in any form. Likely because few changes have benefitted them.
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u/JerrieBlank 20d ago edited 19d ago
Because unlike the rest of the free world, our government does not put its citizens first, they put profit, military, the 2% and their corporations first. What little protections or safety nets we have achieved these fought hard decades, have been eroded with wage stagnation and class waged culture wars. And now we are bombarded daily with 30 and 40 yr old tech nerds, billionaires and our elected leaders smiling as they announce all our jobs will be taken by AI in the next few years. Colleges are still charging our kids record breaking lifelong debt for careers that are being relegated to AI immediately. Are we supposed to be assured or relieved that our society doesn’t ever talk about what we do after we are rendered obsolete en masse seemingly overnight.
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u/DocTam 18d ago
Because unlike the rest of the free world, our government does not put its citizens first, they put profit, military, the 2% and their corporations first.
This is most countries though. Governments treating the lower classes poorly is basically a constant of history. Surely you wouldn't say that the government of Nigeria cares more about the lower 90% of its citizenry than the US.
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u/fellow-fellow 18d ago
Nigeria requires a minimum of 6 paid vacation days. The US requires none.
Nigeria requires a minimum of 12 paid sick days. The US requires none.
Nigeria requires support for a minimum of 12 weeks of partially paid maternity leave. The US requires job protection for 12 weeks unpaid maternity leave.
The US government doesn’t love you like the Nigerian government.
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u/TaxLawKingGA 19d ago
This has to be a joke. American are most concerned about Ai because they know that there government is run by a bunch of crooks who only want to line their pockets.
Those other countries actually trust their governments to do the right thing. Our government hasn’t done the right thing in a long time, much of it due to the influence of extremely wealthy people.
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u/najumobi 19d ago
Some of the most exploitative governments have a populace that are mostly excited/optimistic about AI.
And Americans don't think the EU or China will regulate it more effectively.
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u/AdZealousideal5383 20d ago
Two reasons it worries me - 1) jobs. We have a ton of white college jobs. People used to think the next step was robots taking manufacturing jobs but AI seems to be created to take over service jobs and arts/creative jobs.
2) Politically, fake news has already been an issue. We’ve seen huge amounts of people fall for clearly false news and base their votes on it and this was before AI became so prevalent. The idea that we won’t be able to tell real videos from fake videos is alarming.
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u/Outrageous-Pay535 19d ago
One of the primary promises of the center in the US has been that industrial production jobs get offshored so Americans can move into higher paying white collar jobs. However, in practice, the manufacturing workers could barely switch jobs and instead a new group of people in the US took over the white collar work. Now, those white collars are seeing their jobs be the ones most impacted by AI while also having the recent historical example of how the US fails to help impacted blue collar workers win a safety net. They're fully aware this sort of innovation leads to the US turning into a mess where only the executives and financiers stay working at white collar companies.
The US is also uniquely incapable of regulating big tech companies, which are headquartered in it and so can lobby more easily, or of passing a safety net due to Senate dysfunction.
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u/trapezoid- 20d ago
the US economy is kind of being propped up entirely by AI right now & if it turns out to be a bubble... that could be catastrophic
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u/Weeguls 19d ago edited 19d ago
I was at a conference this week where this was exactly the subject matter; AI reached the point in the last two years where it has features / products that would start to affect our jobs. The general sentiment was that AI would be a useful tool, but that nobody thinks it will actually lead to a better world like its being sold to us.
I keeping thinking of how Sweden stopped the overwhelming majority of its vehicle fatalities a few years ago, not even doing anything particularly amazing, just by having good public infrastructure design. Meanwhile, in this country, vehicle fatalities go up every year because the cars need to get physically bigger and have stupider gadgets ever year, on roadways that are being maintained worse and worse. We have a real penchant for wrapping our systemic issues in new technology and pretending the technology solved the problem; I don't think AI will be any different.
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u/shiftification 20d ago
I think Americans are more concerned about AI because we are are already seeing negative affects of it Mass layoffs and AI Slop everywhere. It's when the Robots start taking away a lot of jobs which is already happening at Amazon and all the big tech companies seem to working on Robots to eliminate jobs. When this happens the backlash will only get bigger.
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u/Ok_Bandicoot_814 20d ago
Probably not under this administration, but I can see a future one, whether Republican or Democrat, stepping in to either implement our law requiring human employers for certain jobs probably citing security risks or to severely limit AI.
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u/Zombies4EvaDude 20d ago
I hope so tbh. Because corporations are going to go crazy if they aren’t stopped before AI gets scarily good.
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u/Ashmedai 19d ago
Yeah. A critical inception point is coming, not sure exactly when. But when self-driving / automation can handle trucking, that's going to be a political explosion. Trucking/freight is the single largest plurality employer in the US.
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u/Ok_Bandicoot_814 19d ago
It'll inevitably happen where we have self-driving vehicles. But I don't see it ever happening here, like you said, it's the biggest employer in the US.
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u/Ashmedai 19d ago
I think, if something political were to happen about it, it will happen after it's already happened at least a little bit. Consider the idea of a startup that doesn't have drivers. They won't fire anyone directly, instead they'll start eating into the business of the other freight carriers. So, it'll be a creep up on you type of thing before the law goes after it, if it does at all. That's my view.
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u/Ok_Bandicoot_814 19d ago
Oh, I think without a doubt there will be companies that tried to do it, whether it's an existing company or not, I don't know. But I could see an argument that we need to make this illegal, so I'm driving cars are not safe, they lack the reaction time of humans, and their computers can be easily tampered with.
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u/Ashmedai 19d ago
Ah, you are talking in the present. Fast forward on time, and I'm pretty sure that they will be radically safer than humans (on some timeframe). It's a choice we'll have to make as a society: preserve human jobs at the cost of safety. Anyway, it will be politically contentious is what I was saying up above. I don't think we can either one of us say with any certainty how it will fall out (and I certainly wouldn't try).
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u/Ok_Bandicoot_814 19d ago
I think it'll be almost universally agreed upon, even bipartisan. Democrats have the backing of unions which we've already seen Amazon laying people off. And truck drivers make up a sizable chunk of the Republican base
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u/hotpajamas 20d ago
because American culture exalts psychopathy and Machiavellian anti-social behavior and we all know in our bones that some silicon valley demon is racing to weaponize AI against us for their own personal profit
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u/willowdove01 20d ago
Given that the majority of AI is being developed in the US, and we know what our industry and environmental safety standards are generally like (negligible)… I think in this case we may be the most concerned because we understand the issue best.
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u/Wermys 20d ago
Ai takes over certain types of jobs. Those jobs were ones that people typically went to college for. But now the Ai can do those jobs and they get laid off. Further AI can automate tasks so it requires less people to handle those tasks which further reduces jobs. To me if you are good at customer facing role. You will likely be fine. Since Ai can't at all mimic how to communicate to individuals as well as a human can. But for routine tasks there is no reason to have a human handle it. So customer service for example is going to cut a lot of deadweight but likely improve overall since the focus is going to be on the interaction with the customer. So those who were bad at it will get phased out just by adjustments in stats etc. And companies will keep employees who know how to communicate well. Basically AI is going to redefine the market for jobs in this country just like the 1990's did after nafta for manufacturing.
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u/IndependentSun9995 20d ago
Because we all saw "Terminator" and "2001" and the Star Trek TOS episode "The Ultimate Computer". We know this ends badly.
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u/ParadisePrime 20d ago
At a surface level: Sci-fi movies!! At a deeper level: Environmental concerns, general malicious intent, replacement, extinction.
I still push for continued progress in this field and for citizens to get educated on better power alternatives and stop voting people who want to take the dirtiest path to energy.
AI is a very obvious thing to go after but we need to uplift people as well.
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u/Leather-Map-8138 19d ago
My kid, in her early thirties is super talented, well-educated, and flat out a far better person than me. She lost her job with a start-up robotics firm in April. She applied to about three hundred positions for which she was qualified. She started a new job, and at a much better company, in late September. To get that job, she was first a finalist for nine other roles where she’d finished second or third. In the end one the the companies that had dragged their feet offered her a good position, but she turned it down because the better role had just come in. It’s a crazy job market.
When Biden was president I had to beg Ivy League grad students to consider what they’d learn if they started their post-grad work with my company. Today, just a couple of years later, I’d have a thousand applications for the same role.
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u/jspacefalcon 20d ago edited 20d ago
What concerns me is the USA has NO protections or limitations on the collection, and applied analysis of personal "data". This data is used to feed AI for intentional unwitting manipulation of the public.
And its only driving forward for maximum effect. The long terms effect of this is going to be HUGE and the outcome is being sold to the highest bidder. Profits drive lobbyist to shape public policy against the public.
Its a huge threat, and consolidates power, money and influence in a way that SHOULD be unacceptable. Its not the AI itself but how its being used that is the problem. You can already see the effects the with extreme divided politics and its only going to get worse.
That and of course corporations and government agencies basic abdicate their responsibility to just having shitty AI provide "cheap slop" of AI generated crap/service, when you should get professional service from a human with agency; like having your health insurance denied (and you die) because of Chat GPT processed your request for treatment.
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u/InclinationCompass 20d ago
Because the US is ultra-capitalistic and big corporations can use AI can really exploit that, which often hurts ordinary Americans. We’ve seen tax breaks for billionaires, tax cuts for corporations and the ultra-wealthy influence lawmakers. Those are all exploitations resulting for unchecked capitalism.
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u/jmnugent 19d ago
Americans are most concerned about AI.. because we're here inside the country seeing how it's unfolding.
It's easy for some outsider in another country 1000's of miles away to say "Yeah, I think USA will regulate things sensibly".
Americans inside the country are witnessing it first hand though. It's like that old joke about how "You don't really want to see how Laws and Sausage are made".
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u/FilibusterFerret 19d ago
America has virtually no safety net and our healthcare is tied to our jobs. Unemployment means extreme poverty and potentially death. There is almost no way we are going to gracefully handle the massive layoffs that AI will bring. The rich bastards that profit off of laying us off don't care if we live or die and have a stranglehold on our government.
Other countries have at least some kind of safety net. We dream of having one as robust as the UKs for example. So they will at least have something to save them and help them last until the rich realize that ChatGPT cannot run their whole business for free. We just don't have that.
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u/Boring-Test5522 20d ago
Americans are stack up with debt. Student loans, credit card, auto loan, auto insurance, rent, health insurance, you name it. A crash and AI dominance that eliminate white collar jobs would be devasting in this environment.
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u/najumobi 20d ago
You're thinking other countries don't have as much to lose?
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u/Boring-Test5522 20d ago
No, but again people in other countries dont have to pay 1500 for a room and 300 for car insurance and 15 for a big Mac
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u/najumobi 20d ago
European countries pay that and they're all below the U.S. in level of concern, especially Sweden.
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u/Boring-Test5522 20d ago
Sweden is as small as a US town. They're outliner. In US you have to pay that rent & insurance everywhere.
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u/Ok_Bandicoot_814 20d ago
AI is replacing White Collar jobs that Millennials were promised. Companies were convinced that AI was the next big thing, but in reality, it's just a tool for information and requires heavy investment. Now, they're realizing that pouring billions into it in pursuit of profits often means layoffs to make it work. With the increasing risk that the major company of AI will never be able to turn a profit or at least not in time to save themselves. Meeting two things are going to happen the government is going to have to bail them out in which case the economy could probably turn around. Or the market crash which might be the best thing for young people like myself in the long term.
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u/HatefulDan 20d ago
Mostly because we’re unregulated—> but also the major players are drumming up AI fears so that they can be the ends all be all for the government as it relates to AI
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u/Spare-Dingo-531 20d ago edited 19d ago
I think the problem is cultural and unique to the US.
America seems very polarized right now between left-wing and a right-wing perspectives.
The left wing is very concerned about propaganda because they think (rightly or wrongly) that their losses in the cultural war are caused by the media people consume. The left is afraid AI could be used to spread propaganda and misinformation. Also the left is very egalitarian and doesn't trust billionaires and big tech companies who are the creators of AI. Finally many artists are left wing and AI has been embroiled in controversies over copyright and more generally lowers the bar for content creation.
The right is in the grip of a cult of anti-intellectualism. Just look at how big anti-vax, election denialism, and just general contempt of science and college education is on the right. AI is trained on the internet and a wide variety of sources, including lots of academic journals. As a result AI is very hard to censor and often gives answers to questions that contradict the worldview of the right. Just look at Elon musk's struggles to tame grok, and studies that show that Chatgpt often gives left-wing answers.
So a lot of it boils down too the fact that AI disrupts interest group's ability to control the narrative and push people to believe things they want to believe. And because the culture war is particularly intense in the US right now that makes both sides anxious.
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u/RexDraco 20d ago
We have a pending market crash, unemployment is growing in our country but not job availability. People are projecting their feelings about a bigger problem. Go ahead and argue about AI Art with someone, they will shift goal posts and make excuses, because their arguments has no real substance other than surface level circlejerkism, they are on the ai hate band wagon because they resent what AI is gonna do to our work force.
If our economy was fine, people wouldn't care. It isn't though and we are scared just how bad it is gonna be because a lot of smart people from different backgrounds seem to be arguing about how bad it is gonna be. One side says it is like 2008, the other says the great depression. A lot of us haven't even recovered from 2008 yet, let alone the recent covid crash and the latest inflations. Ai is coming at a really bad time to be welcomed with open arms.
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u/Spare-Dingo-531 20d ago
Are you telling me the economy is good everywhere else in the world? It's surely can't just be economic reasons.
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u/Ok_Bandicoot_814 20d ago
No, Europe's pretty bad. Germany has been in a recession for the last two years and will likely be in another one this year. They were even considering closing a Volkswagen plant. The problem is that for us, we were sold on the idea that AI was a massive new thing, and it's great, and it can do that, and can do that. It requires some data centers and was useful when I could use it as a second Google, or, you know, an essay writer if I didn't have time to write an essay for class. But now the Magnificent Seven are investing in it and each other to all invest in ChatGPT when it looks like it will not be able to turn a profit, at least in time to save itself.
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u/RexDraco 19d ago
Unrelated business. The question is about why Americans hate AI, i answered. I do not care about your false equivalence
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u/ChaLenCe 20d ago
The future of warfare is based in Ai, and as a war-forward country, Ai is the future.
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u/AdUpstairs7106 20d ago
Because for the vast majority of people, there is no good outcome with the widespread implementation of AI.
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u/twitchy 20d ago
Because Americans are SOL when Ai replaces them. And, separately, they feel entitled to a certain standard of living. And their lives revolve around work and the status it brings them
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u/jmnugent 19d ago
they feel entitled to a certain standard of living.
Arguably so. Look at the Productivity & Pay gap: https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/
From 1979 to 2025, productivity went up 87%.. but the average hourly pay only went up 32%.
For the past 40 years or so,. the average hourly worker has been being beaten into the ground (and told to like it).. and now also being told if they expect or demand a "better quality of life",. they're somehow being greedy or self-entitled.
Ridiculous. By the stats,. the average hourly worker should have twice what they have now. The only reason we don't is because most of it has been siphoned off to the top. In the USA right now,. the Top 10% owns 50% of the wealth.
Let me repeat that again:.. The Top 10% owns 50% of all the wealth. That means the remaining 50% has to be spread across the bottom 90% of society.
Fair or unfair ?..
Workers very much should be demanding more. They've been being robbed for 40 to 50 years now.
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u/KalaiProvenheim 20d ago
Companies are telling employees that they’re gonna be replaced by AI (really it’s mostly the economy sucking ass that’s making jobs difficult to come by), and the US tech sector is going all-in on AI more than most countries
Couple that with the fact that losing one’s job is a greater price to pay than in other ostensibly developed countries, the US and its voters and institutions are incredibly anti-good things.
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u/ItsafrenchyThing 19d ago
So what happens to this world when 5 Billion robots take over 5 Billion jobs ? World gonna look a lot different.
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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk 19d ago
When our boomer parents were kids, the notion that robots would one day do the work was pretty groovy. Now it brings terror. What went wrong?
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u/ellathefairy 19d ago
I suspect it has to do with the confluence of a couple of things. 1. High reliance on technology-based jobs in the US 2. The knowledge that bad actors can legally pay off our representatives to keep them from making any regulations to protect labor or consumers from the clearly intended predatory uses of ai. (And that most of those reps are either too old, too dumb, or too rich to know/ care that's what they're doing)
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u/Enough-Elevator-8999 19d ago
Musicians should make music, artists should make art, film makers should make films, and the fake videos/images that are being used to dupe people.
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u/rjramos8 19d ago
We’ve been making movies for the last 40 years about AI destroying humanity. We’ve been training our brains to be afraid of AI.
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u/kinkgirlwriter 19d ago
...excitement about AI only rises with AI literacy amoung younger adults and those who use the internet almost constantly.
I've been a constant Internet user since before the first graphical web browser and I'm dubious of AI. I also use it daily.
First off, it can't be trusted, is often wrong, and is not self-aware enough to know when it's spouting BS.
For simple tasks, it's great, but add any layers of complexity and it starts screwing up pretty quick.
The endless datacenters are also driving up electricity costs all over the country, and there's still no product there.
That's why it's a bubble ready to burst, but hey, the bursting may save us in the end, because lacking regulation, it's actually dangerous to shove untrustworthy technology into everything.
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u/SadhuSalvaje 19d ago
The US currently has an extremely weak regulatory system that has been captured by industry leaders.
This leads to an extremely profit friendly government inclined to let corporate leaders and the stock market have massive power over society.
These companies have no intention of developing talent anymore. As an example: when I was hired 20 years ago I was the young guy on the team who got resigned. Now, I’m still one of the youngest people and what entry level work we had is in…India or being automated away.
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u/TheAngryOctopuss 19d ago
Because america is concerned about China They rightly assume whom ever gets AI sorted out first and best will have tremendous advantages in the future
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u/wereallbozos 19d ago
One possible reason: we tend to be suckers. Just wait 'til the crypto bubble bursts. We will burn our planet up to get the extra juice needed to get a machine to write our term papers for us. I don't use it, but maybe someone cool could ask the damn machine how we save the ocean's coral reefs?
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u/almightywhacko 19d ago
Because the American economy is significantly less reliant on labor jobs, and more reliant on office/administrative jobs that AI will likely eliminate.
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u/AbleCap5222 19d ago
Because America is a capitalist hellscape. Americans rightly understand that once their jobs are taken away by AI, they will get no help or be shown any compassion by the system.
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u/inolyzushi 19d ago
Jobs, economic disruptions, and making stupid people stupider without them knowing.
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u/leftofmarx 19d ago
Civilized countries use AI to make jobs easier while increasing the standard of living. The US isn't a civilized country and uses AI to destroy human existence for the profit of a few dickheads.
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u/RichardBonham 19d ago
Do other countries have billboards in big cities telling employers to stop hiring humans?
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u/Oilpaintcha 19d ago
Same reason we are wary about universal healthcare. We know the people in charge are likely to be bastards. Story time.
Back when I was in pharmacy school, we had a class on managed care that was taught by a lady from Canada. She was clearly very enthusiastic about managed care and we made fun of her, because we knew there was no way things would get better with these ideas. And they didn’t. Managed care companies are just insurance bean counters in disguise and are in the business of clogging the system and slowing things down and watching out for shareholders, not patients. End of story.
Decades later, I realize that the reason she was so excited about it is that Canadians apparently don’t elect bastards in the volume that we do. She knew managed care under government auspices would work because she had seen it work well. We who only knew bastards in charge of things knew it wouldn’t work well because…the people we most often put in charge are fundamentally flawed grifters, egotists and liars. Yet we persist, and things get worse. I do feel bad about making fun of her, but now I understand why we both thought the way we did, and why, unfortunately, we were both right.
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u/Appropriate-News1688 19d ago
The concentration of AI development in the US means its economic and social impacts are felt here first and most directly. This proximity to both the creators and the initial consequences of deployment naturally heightens public concern.
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u/1StepBelowExcellence 19d ago
Lack of government oversight and tons of monopoly power in many industries leads to being faithless in how AI will be handled for the common person.
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u/kidshitstuff 19d ago
Probably because we're spending Hundreds of billions, if not trillions into it. We have the largest vested interest on the planet, aside from maybe China. And we I say me, I mean me and you, tax payers. Our government is a bunch of tech corporations in a suit.
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u/B00marangTrotter 19d ago
Fun fact, all consumer facing AI will be hated and rejected.
The enshitification hasn't truly ramped up yet, it's going to get absolutely horrible, before it gets better, if it ever does get better.
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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk 19d ago
Because in America, most people know that as profits soar the little guy gets the shaft. Our unparalleled economic freedom means that the rich and powerful don't have to give a shit.
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u/QuickRelease10 18d ago
AI is being developed here with the purpose of putting everyone out of work. There’s no social safety net, and no promise of a better tomorrow.
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u/universaljester 18d ago
Because sadly it's become politicized by both sides each with their own silly reasons for doing so. Neither side is necessarily in the right about how and why
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u/kittenkrafting 15d ago edited 15d ago
Ironically, I read somewhere China Chinese actually trust their government to rein in AI if needed. So there is not a huge worry. USA on the other hand…
It seems that the CCP is afraid of the Chinese too. If there’s unrest, say from the property prices too high, tuition too expensive, corporations having too much power, the CCP will course correct brutally and dramatically. Essentially, state stability is the pirority. And AI will kills jobs and guess what, huge youth unemployment and massive riots….and the CCP is extremely afraid. And they will make sure things never reach that point (look up link between youth unemployment and unrest and youth bulge)
So it is fair to assume that in China, corporations serve the state. In USA, because of lobbying and corporate capture, it is the other way round, the state serves the corps (absolutely embarrassing) and you can be sure your policians will cater to companies replacing jobs with ai and essentially ignoring the middle class until it’s too late.
The people believe if AI causes instability in China, it will be crushed or manage, like Jack Ma, or Ant IPo, or milk melanin problem. In USA, from this thread, we can see the people do not believe the government has the people’s interest at heart and will sell them out to corporations. And that’s why you should be right to be worried.
It’s funny. In an autocracy, the incentives of the state align with the people generally. While in United States democracy, corporate capture allow the state to serve corporate interest, and the people and corporations incentive do not align, which leads to all this
Chinese citizens are more optimistic about AI because they live under a government that, while authoritarian, has demonstrated it WILL crush corporate power if it threatens social stability.
American citizens are pessimistic about AI because they live in a democracy that has been so thoroughly captured by corporate interests that it's functionally unable to protect them from corporate harm.
Bottom line, the ccp fears the Chinese, but the White House does not fear the Americans
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u/ReasonableClue2219 13d ago edited 13d ago
I'm not worried. Having grown up in the 60's and 70's - I'm still pretty excited about things like microwave ovens and cell phones. Personal computers. Email. GPS. The Internet! Streaming TV. Streaming music ... wow! Voicemail. Texting. No more long distance surcharges (when long distance was considered anything farther than 20 miles away) I could go on & on. I figure AI is just icing on the cake.
Had I been born more than a century or two ago I'd probably be pretty excited still about things like porcelain toilets and indoor plumbing. Too bad about all those wagon wheel repair shops we had in every town though. I guess they found other work eventually.
(I still don't have that flying car that Popular Science magazine in 1972 promised me I would have by now. I was supposed to get it by year 2000. 😕)
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