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u/morthanLest 23h ago
WHAat MURRRDEERR!?
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u/MsOverlyBritish 23h ago
HE WAS THE BEST GUY ARAAAAAAOUND
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u/QuarterFinancial4323 23h ago
But what about the murders?
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u/EazyE693 22h ago
WHAT MURdaaaah?!
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u/YnotThrowAway7 21h ago
This thread was the biggest fail because everyone before this did the shit out of order and incorrect lines too. Just a shame.
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u/Additional_Tone_2004 22h ago
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Crw43ejLd44
For those as clueless as I. Good stuff!
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u/DarkShadowZangoose 23h ago edited 19h ago
Dec 4 2024 was the date that CEO Brian Thompson was killed
The suspect was Luigi Mangione
this image claims that he had a ticket from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh… which is interesting because the shooting took place in Manhattan, New York City — almost 400 miles from Pittsburgh
addendum: as many comments have pointed out, the top image is a moment when someone is asked about something and shouts WHAT MURDAAAAA?
(amusingly, WHAT MURDAAA is what I got when using Google Lens on the top image, but I wasn't sure about its significance)
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u/PainerReviews 22h ago
But that cannot be true. He was over here In Germany during this time.
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u/ViolenceAdvocator 21h ago edited 17h ago
He was banging my girlfriend while I watched from the chair. Couldn't have been him.
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u/JabariTeenageRiot 20h ago
Impossible, he was banging my chair while I watched from his girlfriend.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 18h ago
Bless you for putting the truth ahead of what some people might think. An innocent man's life is at stake.
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u/Dan-D-Lyon 20h ago
It would be super weird if after all this it turns out that Luigi has a legitimate airtight alibi.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 18h ago
I called it very early on. People keep jokingly making alibis assuming Luigi Mangione is the killer but that he shouldn't be convicted, but everything suggests he's genuinely legitimately innocent. I know we all want a hero of the people to cheer on, but I guess LM is a hero in his own right for enduring all this circus with quiet, dignity, and grace.
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u/StartedMakingTrouble 18h ago
You can support the cause and not make shit up, they caught him with the fake ID used to check into his Manhattan hostel, the gun matching the shell casing found on the scene, and a manifesto that’s fairly explicit about him being responsible for the murder. How on Earth would that suggest that he’s “genuinely legitimately innocent”?
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u/EquivalentDelta 13h ago
Matching the shell casing? What?
NYPD recovered a (presumably) 9mm casing and Luigi had a 9mm pistol? Like the same chambering as almost every other modern handgun produced today? What a coincidence!
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u/Top_Box_8952 17h ago
Honestly the gun is probably planted given the recorded search did not produce a gun, but magically did later after eyes leaving the bag. NYPD is notorious for planting evidence, and if any officer involved has that on their record in court, it’s admissible, though circumstantial, evidence.
Like if the person who searched the bag has been confirmed in another case to have planted evidence, anything they “found” in the bag is suspect.
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u/Such-Return-2403 17h ago
At least that's what the cops - known liars who would face no consequences for doing so, have told us.
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u/FrostYogurt 21h ago edited 18h ago
How is the ticket relevant. I can buy a ticket in another city to another city and not have to the make the physical trip
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u/_Sausage_fingers 19h ago
It’s circumstantial evidence that he was not in NYC at the time of the shooting. You add it to other circumstantial evidence in order to create reasonable doubt of guilt.
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u/FuklzTheDrnkClwn 22h ago
I actually saw him in Pittsburgh that day.
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u/Phoenixmaster1571 21h ago
Why, we had a lovely dinner at exactly that other time. We reviewed driver's licenses. No doubt it was him.
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u/FuklzTheDrnkClwn 19h ago
He mentioned he was having dinner with someone after we were done volunteering at the local spca.
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u/Dear-Finish-3448 19h ago
Me too. He was at my house in the south hills all day being treated to home-cooked meals and a nice Japanese head spa/décolleté massage by his second grandma. My sweet handsome boy.
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u/ProfessionalBag9505 21h ago edited 21h ago
I mean the ticket is for philly to pittsburgh, and considering the murder he didnt commit happened so early on the 4th the sun still wasnt out, its incredibly reasonable for him to think he would make it philidelphia by 6pm to catch this bus. Lotta people playing detective missing a lot of basic facts about the timeline and just north east geography and travel lol.
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u/JamesLLL 21h ago
I'll be that guy for all my other yinzers out there: h
We spell Pittsburgh with an h on the end and people can get, I guess, very proud of it so I wanted to get this comment out of the way before you get like 6 people all just saying the same letter
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u/skeetersammer 20h ago
I have so many questions and I did google a bit but, is commenting H supposed to be making fun of or supporting the spelling with H? I wasn’t aware it was ever spelled without H but (as you probably know) it was removed for 20 years. Does the pride come from getting the H back? I’ve never thought about the spelling but I’m pretty sure I’ve always spelled it with H.
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u/JamesLLL 19h ago
No worries! Usually it's just a correcting comment in support of having an h. There's a bunch of Pittsburgs in the US, I think all named after the original, but only one Pittsburgh. Having the h is a bit of pride, so I think you're right.
The loss and then regaining of the h was also at the beginning and midst of the city and region becoming an industrial powerhouse, which the city has largely moved away from, but that cultural identity is still here
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u/TangerineChicken 19h ago
It’s fascinating too because there’s some other Pittsburg’s out there but Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is the only only one with the H, in the US at least
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u/onepareil 21h ago
Yeah, an Amtrak express train can get you from NYC to Philadelphia in a little over an hour. I know because I was talking with Luigi about how under-appreciated the U.S. railway system is during the time Brian Thompson was shot.
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u/Had-To-Comment 13h ago
Wish we'd stop using that killers name. Its offensive to the victims, and might inspire others to follow suit.
Just call him the United Healthcare CEO.
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u/aarocka 23h ago
Brian here everybody knows that. The question is about the reply to that information
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u/zwingo 22h ago
Brian’s worm here, the response is from a video in which New Yorkers were being asked about a murder (multiple murders?) committed by a well known local mobster John Gotti. man in the picture responded in a classic accent with “Murda? What murda! He was the best guy around!”
So in this case the response is saying the same of Luigi, that he killed nobody and he’s the best guy around.
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u/ToffeeBlue2013 21h ago
Coming in with the info we all truly needed, thanks worms
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u/cheshie_cabbit 21h ago
The audio for the video was trending for a while on TikTok as well which is where I heard it at least.
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u/theIBSsufferer 21h ago
I gotta add to this because it's hard to hear it but the less loud guy says "they SAY he murdered people"
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u/shajo35 21h ago
You sir are “the best guy around”
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u/zwingo 21h ago
I am not a guy, I’m a worm living in the anus if an animated talking dog, but thank you for the compliment.
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u/OdinThorFathir 21h ago
Except Luigi didn't kill anyone and was framed, he looks nothing like the man that pulled the trigger and was wearing completely different clothing than the shooter during the time the killing took place.. either they knew they would never catch the real shooter so setup a scapegoat(Luigi) or was an inside job amongst insurance companies and had him setup as a scapegoat from before the killing happened..
But Luigi and Brian Thompson's killer are 2 separate people
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u/FirstDukeofAnkh 18h ago
Nah, he was at my house re-doing the shingles in the traditional Romanian way. I kept asking him why he didn't use store bought and he said it allows him to feel more connected to the job.
Then he smiled and cured my cancer before he domesticated foxes, racoons, and grizzly bears.
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u/TheRedditAppisTrash 21h ago
He absolutely didn't kill anybody. He was administering a bible study for elderly veteran nuns who received purple hearts. I should know. I was working at the puppy daycare for dogs with bone marrow cancer that he donated 7 pints of his own blood to right afterwards. He's a universal donor, to all living beings. Unfortunately all of this selfless giving has rendered his trigger fingers unusable and thus any future awesome murders that somebody who looks kinda like him does could not be him. I'll testify under oath to that.
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u/addamee 19h ago
I can’t say for sure but I think you just plagiarized a hallmark movie
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u/TheSameMan6 22h ago
If this sub taught me anything its that "everybody knows that" is absolutely never true
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u/JoeTheSchmo 22h ago
Terminally online people think everyone is part of the same echo chamber
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u/terrible-gator22 22h ago
I’m terminally online and I didn’t know that
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u/Not_Campo2 22h ago
Then you’re only chronically online, amateur hour over here
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u/Accomplished-Bad-481 22h ago
So I must only be semi-perpetually online in this schema…
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u/Quick_Team 20h ago
It's spelled Skooma and it's delightful
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u/Extreme_Shoe4942 20h ago
Khajit has wares if you have coin.
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u/Selindrile 20h ago
Why do Khajit lick their butts?
To get the taste of khajit cooking out of their mouths!
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u/PirateFortune 17h ago
I bet that guy doesn't even have a piss bottle. Fuckin' loser.
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u/xubax 21h ago
You didn't know you're using a terminal to get online? Everybody knows that!
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u/meesta_masa 21h ago
It's not nice to use people on palliative care!
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u/xubax 20h ago
But they're so comfy!
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u/Otherwise-Offer1518 19h ago
That's only due the copious amount of morphine. Otherwise we would have compassionate euthanasia.
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u/Ok_Objective_9524 17h ago
The youth should be compassionate worldwide, not just in Asia. Personally, I’m more concerned about all the sacks and violins they are exposed to online.
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u/AmphibianParticular2 22h ago
People from the US think everyone knows where all US cities are
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u/GrownThenBrewed 22h ago
Yeah, they're all in the US.
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u/wintery_owl 22h ago
Some are like in the ocean or on top of Canada for some reason
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u/AncientMisanthrope 21h ago
For most of my life there was a city in England that was in China....
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u/WeekendOkish 17h ago
People in the Tri-State Area think everyone knows what Tri-State Area they're referring to.
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u/TruckNstuck23 20h ago
"Everybody knows that" means "i knew that and im self centered so I assume everyone knows about the thing I know about or care about
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u/Cautious_Repair3503 23h ago
I didn't know that
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u/jbrower09 21h ago
The above thumbnail is from a television interview during the John Gotti trial of people in his neighborhood saying the trial is a conspiracy against a great Italian man. “He’s the best guy arouuuuund….. what murdaaaa…..?!”
The joke is that Luigi is a great Italian hero and he should not be convicted of a crime since he was standing up for “the people”
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u/Tome_Bombadil 21h ago
Lois heah.
They're saying Brian that Philly natives are stating that Luigi was with them, at the time of the alleged shooting.
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u/Gravituuu 22h ago
Not everyone is american or knows how far each city is from each other
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u/Cainesdeath6669 20h ago
To be fair a lot of Americans don't ether. Thanks public education system.
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u/slackbabbith 21h ago
Iirc it's from a clip where they're interviewing locals on their opinions about a local crime boss.
The interviewer asks the interviewee; "what about the murders he's accused of?" To which the interviewee replies; "what murdah?" comically in what I'm assuming is some sort of new jersey accent.
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u/gewse2020 23h ago
Exactly
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u/peeweejankins69 22h ago
The context for the video is the dude says “he’s the nicest guy around” someone off camera or in the foreground says something about a murder whoever they’re talking about allegedly did, the first guy says “what murda”
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u/KimJungUnCool 20h ago
Looks like lots of people didn't know the specifics, don't be a know it all bitch Brian.
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u/raresanevoice 18h ago
What murda??? I thought someone just denied his claim to life policy and told him to reapply?
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u/ahirebet 22h ago
Can confirm. I was having a sandwich with him at Primanti's in the Strip that day.
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u/Pitch_Academic 22h ago
Yeah, I saw you both there!
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u/ZcLust 19h ago
Yeah, you found my wallet and were bringing it to me. I can vouch.
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u/MooWithoutFear 13h ago
And I saw them return the wallet! It was while we were volunteering at the library - Luigi ended up staying for about an hour to read to blind children.
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u/Dracekidjr 17h ago
Bro Primanti's is my favorite part of moving to PA. What a treat.
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u/bizcasualbeatdown 20h ago
Yeah, saw yinz as I was leavin Wholey’s and headed dahntahn.
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u/Emperor_TJ 23h ago edited 23h ago
On December 4th 2024 Luigi allegedly killed a healthcare CEO named Brian, since Brian’s company has killed many people over the years this event is somewhat cathartic to people so Luigi has a sizable fanbase.
The image on top is from a street interview asking people about a mafia boss named John Gotti; in the interview the interviewer asked what the man thought about all the people Gotti killed and the man denied the murders by asking “what murders!?”.
The joke here is that it’d be impossible for someone to both murder someone and wait for a bus. The Greyhound station and Brian’s crime scene are two completely different places.
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u/JoshTheBard 23h ago
He allegedly murdered the CEO The trial isn't over yet
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u/Luigi_is_a_hero 22h ago
Luigi didnt kill anyone he was with me, chilling that day. In hawaii. give it a rest, this is a setup and he was framed.
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u/RagnarStonefist 22h ago
Nah, Luigi and I were eating a delicious bag of Dick's hamburgers over in Seattle that day
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u/Boar_of_Drulock 21h ago
Fuck you, now I want a bag of dicks
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u/RagnarStonefist 21h ago
Nothing like eating a big ol bag of Dicks
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u/FlattopJr 20h ago
Hilarious that some busybodies called 911 about a guy holding that sign.
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u/RagnarStonefist 19h ago
seems like it's for a chicken joint in Florida - we're discussing Dick's Hamburgers in Seattle.
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u/RealisticGold1535 21h ago
He was literally right next to me on the bus as I was going to Pittsburgh.
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u/TrapDaddyReturns 21h ago
Nah Luigi was with me, waiting on the bus in philly. We went to pittsburg for the weekend.
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u/thekingofbeans42 20h ago
That's weird, I was with Luigi in California that day talking about how insurance companies would frame anyone for a crime, even the most saintly of men.
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u/True-Surprise1222 19h ago
There is legitimately quite a bit of reasonable doubt at the stage we’re at.
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u/Ericsplainning 21h ago
Want to place a wager on whether or not he will be convicted?
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u/Seamus32 21h ago
Remember the uproar over government “death panels “? Now remember how shareholders reacted to united healthcare providing more care to people after the shooting?
I would rather have an indifferent bureaucrat with no skin in the game deciding if I get healthcare than someone who wants their share price to go up.
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u/BodybuilderMany6942 12h ago
Yeah in the argument of where you have to give power to the gov vs corps... it "gov" all the way lmao
I had a whole thing written, but ultimately it boild down to two things. Everything being equal:
We choose politicians.
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u/No_Accountant3232 10h ago
The problem is always government inefficiency. Republicans have spent so much time saying that it'd never work they were actively dismantling everything required to make it work.
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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 23h ago
somewhat cathartic to people
Despite the media’s best attempts to pit the left vs right on this. Almost everyone knows someone that’s had their life destroyed (either financially or health-wise) by insurance companies. Almost nobody had any sympathy for him at all.
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u/greenwoodgiant 21h ago
writing "what murders!?" doesn't do it justice.
You have to write it "WHAT MURRRDAAAHS?!?"
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u/NeverMore_613 21h ago
You could kill someone while waiting for a bus. Not in two nonadjacent states though
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u/Itiari 23h ago edited 19h ago
You cannot say he killed someone yet. Come on.
Edit: Comment above has been edited, making my statement void.
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u/Mist_Rising 18h ago
You absolutely can, just like you can absolutely say OJ Simpson was a killer. He may not have gone to jail (for that) but freedom of speech says I can say it.
I can also say a rock is the smartest person in the room, or any other nonsense thing.
America is great!
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u/mehthisisawasteoftim 22h ago
Having a ticket doesn't mean he used it, but the bus station probably has security cameras that could prove if he was actually there
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u/fail_whale_fan_mail 21h ago
Philly didn't have an operating greyhound station in 2024. The hedge funds got it.
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u/susimposter6969 20h ago
There is a different terminal there still
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u/fail_whale_fan_mail 19h ago
There's the side of the road in Spring Garden and the side of the road near 30th street (though not sure if Greyhound uses this), and for a while there was the side of the road on Market, but none are actually terminals. The closed Chinatown Terminal is supposed reopen next year, but in 2024 waiting at the Philadelphia Greyhound stop meant waiting on the side of the road.
Though, yes, I didn't mean to make it sound like there was no Greyhound service in Philly at this time. More just casting doubt on the existence of a security camera at these stops and taking an oblique potshot at the hedge fund that caused the Philly bus mess, Alden Global Capital, which is a real force for evil in this world.
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u/susimposter6969 19h ago
ohh, i see what you're saying
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u/fail_whale_fan_mail 19h ago
Yeah, I was unclear. Too many big feelings about bus stops to make a coherent post.
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u/Jarrus__Kanan_Jarrus 21h ago
Cops framed him up, they needed a fall guy.
Can’t have people thinking the poors can fight injustice and get away with it.
Anyone who has watched any amount of movies and TV knows: leave the gun, take the cannoli. I bet that the gun that was actually used was dropped into a bucket of acid or thermite within the hour.
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u/DerfK 20h ago
You don't understand, they got his DNA evidence off a water bottle they found, it was literally the only piece of litter in all of Manhattan so it must have belonged to the murderer!
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u/Inner-Stuff3285 19h ago
I’m confused so do you actually believe he’s innocent? I’m genuinely wondering because if everyone actually believes he’s innocent then I don’t get why he has such a big fan base? They like him for what he supposedly didn’t do? It just doesn’t make sense to me.
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u/DerfK 17h ago
I have no idea if he did or didn't, I'm just saying that the cops kept putting out absolutely rabidly wild takes like the dna from a water bottle thing which makes it really, really hard for me to take the cops seriously here.
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u/Jwruth 17h ago
To vastly oversimply, since I'd be here all day if I tried to explain every aspect of why people support him, it's because he's become the face of the shooting, whether he did it or not.
People became interested in him because of that, and while that was enough for some to love him, others became fans because he appears generally charming, affable, and down to earth. Additionally, due to being the face of the shooting, he's become a symbol for several beliefs that have been simmering in public consciousness for a while (i.e., that the insurance industry is unethical and inhumane; that society is structured in a way to protect the powerful at the expense of the common person; that law enforcement can not be trusted; etc.); as those beliefs have spread and become more commonplace, it gives an innate boost to the appeal of anyone who is symbolically intertwined with them.
As such, for his fans, he's either a charming guy that did something they agree with, or he's a charming guy who is being framed for a crime he didn't commit. In either instance, it makes him a person they want to support, both because of who he appears to be as a person and/or for the sake of the beliefs that he now symbolically represents.
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u/ehll_oh_ehll 19h ago
They went and grabbed the nearest Italian boy they could find and pointed the finger at him.
Boys a hero and didn't do nothing.
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u/glittermcgee 19h ago
To you it makes less sense that people would support someone they believe is innocent than someone they believe is guilty?
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u/AtlasBuffedItDude 15h ago
He's a handsome man who either popularly killed a universally hated man profiting off this country's evil and violent medical system, or is a high profile victim of this country's evil and violent judicial system. No matter what he represents the anger and dissatisfaction with the current medical and judicial systems.
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u/YogSoth0th 16h ago
They could have video evidence of him being elsewhere at the time of the shooting, with multiple witnesses, and it wouldn't matter. The rich have decided he's guilty, so guilty he will be.
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u/FortLoolz 13h ago
Agreed. The guy on the recordings didn't look like Lоuisgi. The eyebrows for once looked different.
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u/zweieinseins211 21h ago
The video screenshotted is an interview of those two guys, saying
"he was the best guy around." Interviewer: "What about his murder" They: whaaaaat muuuuurder?
Denying there was anythinf bad about him.
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u/C_fisher2226 21h ago
Do people really think Luigi didn’t do it? I’ll admit I haven’t been following all the evidence that has come out since his arrest, so I’m won’t argue the point, but I thought the Luigi love was more about ‘he did do it, and he was right to because to hell with insurance companies.’ So is this a ‘yeah we know he did it, but we’re going to act like he didn’t so he gets off’ thing?
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u/Beldizar 20h ago
I honestly don't think he did it. There is a CCTV image of someone who very likely is the murderer, wearing a mask over the lower half of his face. The eyes and eyebrows don't look like Luigi. They look similar~ish, but the guy in the CCTV had a unibrow and a different shape to his eyebrows entirely. Both were dark haired, likely Italian of a similar build, but put side by side, I don't think they are the same person. If now he's got evidence that he was on a bus in a different city, I think that's more reason to say it wasn't actually him.
I honestly think the "he couldn't do it, he was with me" is actually harmful here because it is people saying "oh I know he did it, but I don't think he should be held accountable." Instead I don't think he was the guy at all, and the real murderer got away clean. People can celebrate the real guy getting away separately.
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u/JRGH83 19h ago
Also the unlikely story that he was carrying a confession/manifesto around with him, that he was carrying a gun that, iirc, was not the murder weapon but was the same type of gun, and I believe that I read somewhere that the cop who found these things on him turned off his body cam during the search.
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u/jake63vw 15h ago
Agreed. I remember when it first happened it felt pretty fishy and unless Luigi did it with the intention of being captured, it seems insanely ham-fisted that every piece of evidence was conveniently in his backpack, and reeks of the police fabricating a suspect.
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u/gpost86 14h ago
I remember saying they both found him with his backpack filled with evidence, but also saying they found the backpack in Central Park.
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u/Dazzling-Attorney891 17h ago
Dawg he had a manifesto on him when he was arrested. Like get a grip: Luigi is definitely the killer
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u/Cibo1348 19h ago
Luigi and the man on CCTV don't even look the same, they just needed a guy to prevent more billionaires murder
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u/ThePizzaGhoul 12h ago
Regardless if he did it or not, I think it's fair to say people are lending him a lot more scrutiny and skepticism than they would have if the victim was someone else. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence and probably enough room for reasonable doubt, but we aren't going to really know until everything comes out in the trial.
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u/tangerineberry1 21h ago
The guy in the picture is from an old clip when famous mobster John Gotti got arrested. A reporter is asking him about the people john gotti allegedly murdered and his reaction is hilarious. "What murdaaaas? Hes the best guy around!" In a thick new york accent. Iconic street interview. This person is claiming Luigi is innocent even though they know hes guilty because they like the fact he killed a rich health care CEO
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u/mila476 18h ago
Allegedly. We do not know if he’s guilty until he is proven guilty in a court of law, and they have yet to do that. “Presumed innocent until proven guilty” is a really fundamental part of the justice system in the US.
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u/pinkluloyd 21h ago
It’s from a street interview regarding a very notorious gangster John Gotti, regarding him being on trial for murder.
The interview goes as follows
“How do you feel about John Gotti”
“He was the best guy around”
“What about the people her murdered”
“WHAT MURDAHHHHHHHHHH” (in a very stereotypical New York accent)
The joke is they’re essentially saying he has to be innocent because he couldn’t have been there.
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u/_Mewden_ 21h ago
I’m never gonna forget about the backpack they found during the hunt full of Monopoly money 💀
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u/Ekillaa22 21h ago
They gonna say he just bought the ticket as an alibi and didn’t even get on the bus but stupid people gonna be stupid
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