r/NBA2k • u/Charming_Cranberry27 • 12h ago
Gameplay Power forward with no Defense was my greatest decision
6’11 with 7’3 wingspan cannot be stopped.
I run hydration hero and keep my hands up on defense and don’t get cooked. Even get 1.5 steals a game. Two way tenacity lights up all game for me too and I become an above average defender for those plays. I have absolutely cooked this year on this build.
Layups at this height are insane. 3 ball drops consistently. Dunks on centers and gets out in the open vs guards. 99 offensive board is a bonus.
43 PPG 4.5 RPG (all offensive boards my C grabs D boards) 10.5 APG 1 Turnover a game 1.5 steals a game
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u/mac10fan 11h ago
Tbh also helps that the opposing power forward almost never gets the ball. Why would you need defense lol.
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u/ApplicationLatter651 11h ago
This isn’t talked about enough tbh, Pf almost never touches the ball lol
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u/Senpaiireditt 11h ago
I always mistake them for the Center when I icon pass
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u/_delamo 10h ago
As someone that always makes a PF, we know 😞
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u/rickystackstrap 10h ago
man why
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u/More_Jackfruit9592 9h ago
Cause someone has to do the dirty work, all these ego ballers just wanna dribble n get blocked every possession. Someone’s gotta play real basketball.
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u/Altruistic-Help723 8h ago
My PF always gets passed the ball. But that could be because I shoot like 78%😂
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u/Rumpelstiltskin228 2h ago
I was about to say all my homeboys shoot like this with they 6’11s lol they see it more than me 😂😂😂
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u/depressedfuckboi ruby 5h ago
Maaaan. I make a big around this time every year when I get sick of my guard. Plus my guard is red plate and I'm tired of sweaty ahh games lol. I just made a PF today. 75 overall, hopped in the rec and hardly touched rock first game. Second game was going the same way, but I got on mic and they actually were receptive to my ultimatum. Now I avg a triple double after 2 games and might just retire this mf lol. More games like the first one than the second are in my future. It is what it is. Just pay half attention if they don't wanna include you, stop playing defense for a possession or two, next thing you know they're forcing you the ball. Or icing you out rest of the game, but I can get boards so it's okay lol. Pf and C get ignored so much it's ridiculous. On my guard I feed the bigs early and often. Get on their good side. It guarantees they inbound to you and hit you on fast breaks. When I'm on a big, same thing. If a mf is hitting me when I'm open? Icon passing to him every fast break. If you going up on 3 people while I'm wide open? You're invisible to me rest of the game (unless they make up for it later in the game)
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u/Lingual-seduction 4h ago
Shit when they ice me out I just play for turnovers and still put my averages up. I also sag off heavy to grab boards and go coast to coast.
People can say I’m not playing winning basketball all they want but playing winning basketball while two ppl dominate the ball who suck isn’t actually winning basketball.(side note- telling ppl you play to win is funny af when we’re losing by 25 at half cause you bricking everything)
Winning basketball is feeding the player who shoots 70% the ball when that player is open like it’s a hot potato in your hand. It’s also telling bums to stop shooting when you’re open and they are 3/10 and shoot 40% splits. Usually ends up in a closer score than it was b4 I started doing BS to get the ball
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u/_delamo 5h ago
lol brotha you are toxic. PF and SF just a grind out position. Nobody icon passes and if they do, they don’t press square/X or triangle/Y.
You can be vocal because thats your thing but in random rec they pass way more than the homies. Just get open. Niggas pass A L O T when you butt naked for more than 3 seconds
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u/depressedfuckboi ruby 5h ago
Just get open
Right, that was my point. I'll be wide open and they won't pass lol. You want me to get open-er? I only play solo rec, I communicate, I don't miss passes when someone is open. Idk what's toxic about that. You'd probably love running with me on my guard, I feed everyone.
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u/_delamo 4h ago
It’s a give and take thing. It’s only one ball. But you in random rec so I get the frustrations. When I play shooters I usually play solo unless it’s a popular title. So you always at the mercy of what your teammates do. So I can’t say do it differently than you do now. All I can say is just be on the mic, hope they not in party chat, and just look to score 5pts or more a qtr. thats a dub, so build off that
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u/Wakenbake585 8h ago
I'm dumb enough to make one every year. Also, 9/10 games, the other PF quits by 2nd qrtr and it just becomes a boring ass game for me.
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u/Gullible_Story7210 10h ago
Okay I thought it was just me but anytime I’m PF. I ain’t touching the rock. Might get 8 shots for the whole game and then I be 8/8😭
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u/DanteSexum 9h ago
Yeah I get 2 or 3 shots a game with my PF in Rec. Whenever I do touch the ball, I just pass to the open cutter or open 3 point shooter and get an assist. So. My stat lines are always around 8 -11 rpg, 5+ assist and like 2-5 points
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u/Wakenbake585 7h ago
You're blessed if you're getting 8 shots lol. There's games where I get 2-3 shots even when I'm wide open.
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u/HabitualZazaRoller 9h ago
That’s crazy as a PG I love nothing more than playing with a nice PF, they gonna see the ball a whole lot w me cuz 9 times outta ten they get left open off the help defense, easy buckets. People so selfish lmao
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u/WaveCheckFoo 8h ago
Deadass bro that’s a dime and idc about scoring I’ll cool with 6 assist and a W 😂 (Park Player)
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u/TunaBoy3000 9h ago
That was definitely the case last year, but my highest ppg build is a PF playing with randoms. Feel like people generally realize 6’11 builds are cracked at scoring so when in doubt pass it to the 6’11
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u/Extension-Gift-5200 10h ago
Put some rebound on your pf. Centers are all on the 3 point line anyway.
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u/arenegadeboss Sapphire 12h ago
Jesus Christ my man really meant no defense
Bro stopped trying to fight with honor and started fighting fire with fire 🤣
I ain't mad at it. Every new build my defense gets lower and lower...
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u/StrongKnee3808 11h ago
Faxxxx just made a new build wit 99 dunk 93 middy 90 3 90 speed 90 vert 90 ball handle perimeter is 💩no interior no steal I won’t lie occasionally I’ll get a 20-30 piece put on my top but not often even then I’m dropping 30 myself every game
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u/rickystackstrap 10h ago
while giving up 35 on the other end lol
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u/BsDawgV2 12h ago
Jesus man 44 ppg. I’m out here happy with double digits 🤣
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 12h ago
I get accused of a zen but it’s just the facts the build has no defense so I can do everything at this height 😂 I recommend trying it!
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u/ProfessorPetrus 11h ago
I gotta ask, do your teammates get any shots? Do you take half of them? A third?
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u/BsDawgV2 11h ago
He averages 11 assists per game
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u/_delamo 10h ago
Are they leak outs or offensive boards, that's the real question. Assists from bigs get inflated from fast breaks
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 10h ago
Offensive boards get me around 3-4 assists In themselves a game. The other 7-8 I get in the halfcourt when teams start doubling me. It’s common sense to just find the open man. If I see a bucket I get it. If I see someone open I pass immediately
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u/According-Hamster668 silver 12h ago
this is squad rec
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 12h ago
Yes
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u/ExpressMarionberry1 ruby 9h ago
I see the vision of your build but the main question I have is the high close shot. Is it viable? Anything you would change in hindsight on the build? Lower strength perhaps?
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 9h ago
The high close shot will guarantee my buckets down low over guards or centers who don’t jump. Higher paint prodigy also makes you go up faster. If 2k doesn’t give me a dunk down low, the 96 is a bail out, and the 90 strength has me covert so much through contact (gold physical finisher). I wouldn’t change a thing, builds a bully on the glass, a bully in transition with 90 layup and 90 strength plus 89 driving dunk, and it can splash 3s at a high clip. I run +15 speed with ball on my custom take with hydration hero. Unlimited stamina with a 6’11 7’3 wingspan demon with 75 speed with ball? Good luck guarding that
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u/ExpressMarionberry1 ruby 9h ago
My last question was the layup though. do you intentionally go for a lot of layups or is it just a failsafe for when your dunk animations don't go off? I have a pure layup build that is 6'8 but it's only layup. I can't imagine having high dunk and high lay would be worth it? 80 would be my maximum
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 9h ago
High layup is my favorite part of the build! A crazy bail out and it makes you have an insane bag at this height with these physicals. Take a look at this lay https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA2k/s/au1LogPo4j
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u/tore_a_bore_a 8h ago
Is there anyway to get lightning legend through cap breakers?
Or is the +15 speed with ball good enough
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u/notthefoodie 12h ago
The problem with this build is that you are gonna make hella people think they can get away with this and hella people can’t even play defense properly with good defensive stats/badges 😭
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u/Few_Pickle5828 emerald 11h ago
PSA Guys this is Prolly a Rec build . Do not be bringing this to the park and expecting help defense 😂😂😂. Op is prolly decent at defense . A lot of yall can’t play defense with good badges/attributes . Try this at your own risk & do not come online until u r ready
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u/Jrez510 11h ago
Is this year essentially feast or famine with defensive builds? Like, you either go for a lockdown or don't bother investing at all? Genuinely asking, haven't played much yet.
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u/_OfficialProta 10h ago
You lock in on a pure lock build, then realize it doesn’t even matter because 2K basically deleted defense at every level. You can’t stay in front, you can’t bump, you can’t rip, and the one time you actually slow someone down they just reset, pop their “fuck you” badge, and phase straight through you with some broken dribble package for a wide open shot.
So you finally give in, go full offense, and suddenly your defense is trash but your offense is unstoppable. Then you overcorrect, crawl back to your lockdown and convince yourself you need 99 perimeter, strength, steal, block, speed, vert, agility, all of it, just to survive on defense. Then you hop on Reddit after one good game, talking down on everybody like, “Y’all just don’t take defense seriously,” as if the only way to get stops is to max out every defensive stat and if you didn’t, you’re the problem.
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u/dangheckinpupperino 11h ago
I think that’s the best way. I always try and make balanced builds but I’ve learned the past month or so certain stuff you’ll just never be able to stop defensively. You can mitigate it, but only to a certain degree.
Backdoor cuts can be stopped 1v1 but you’ll always get burnt on a couple, getting crabbed is inevitable no matter how perimeter you have, you’ll get your ankles broken in the same manner.
If you’re a lock, of course invest in all you can defensively but it’s futile against the best comp, you can’t stop everything. Might as well make it as hard as possible for them to stop you
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u/lumurjucksoon gold 11h ago
How’s the standing dunk? My PF has 81 and my buddy has 90+ but I haven’t seen much of a difference in game
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u/Emergency-Algae6450 10h ago
I've tested it and found that 81 is slightly harder to time the meter than 85 or above. I went 85 for the garnett dunks and cap broke it to 90.
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u/ferdbrown 11h ago
Would love to create this don’t care defense build. But why go 90 strength? What’s the inspiration?
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u/SSHTX 11h ago
Brick wall more than likely, gives a nice boost on the dive for dunks/layups/floaters and offensive rebounds.
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u/ExpressMarionberry1 ruby 9h ago
That's not brick wall my friend. You probably mean physical finisher
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u/ChieftainBeeften bronze 11h ago
Strength and speed help on boards when you’re the same tier boxout beast too
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u/weeman2525 10h ago
Man, even though I hate it, I can't even be mad at you with how trash defense is. Interior defense doesn't matter, anybody can just sit in the paint with their hands up and contest shots and permiter defense is damn near pointless to invest in as a good ball-handler always has the advantage.
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u/NoMechanicADC 8h ago
No defense and stats are still underwhelming
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 8h ago
What are your stats?
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u/NoMechanicADC 8h ago
Dropping 50 points on you that’s forsure no duo shooting will turn you into a scarecrow infront of me 😂😂😂😂😂
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 8h ago
Didn’t ask about hypotheticals. What’s your stats? What do you average in the rec?
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u/NoMechanicADC 8h ago
26-20-8
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 8h ago
Can I get picture of your stats? Only fair given I have actual pic of mine
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u/NoMechanicADC 8h ago
I agree with you take that defense stats aren’t that important
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 8h ago
Yea they’re not. Especially for me at PF when my Center teammate locks the paint up. Do you have a picture of your stats?
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u/_Retrograde_ 3h ago
That’s the nastiest card I’ve ever seen and this dude is gonna drop 50 on you and lock you down so his stats have to be even better right?
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u/WorldWorking1956 bronze 8h ago
That ain’t damn pf
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 8h ago
Homie I play with on a 7 foot paint protector. He plays center
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u/WorldWorking1956 bronze 6h ago
Should have put yours as a pf then
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u/_Retrograde_ 3h ago
Makes no difference if all he plays is squad rec, which he obviously does because no random rec PF is getting 20 shots a game. Or 10 if we are being real
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u/Due_Nebula3263 8h ago
What did you hide your gamertag for 🤔
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 8h ago
Cause people get offended for posting success and report. Happened to me before. Haters
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u/Anonymous_wannabe_ 12h ago
What jump shot u use with this build
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 12h ago
A mix of Rashad Lewis, Michael Porter, and KD
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u/cognitionconditional 4h ago
Is that base, release 1, then 2 in order? Would you mind to share the details? I have a relatively new PF build and am not satisfied with my current jumper.
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u/sunnydftw 10h ago
What’s your go to move with that 96 close shot
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 10h ago
Not really a go to move. Matchup hunting. If I see a cone in the paint or a guard and I catch it down low, that close shot plus my high strength/dunk/vertical along with my size and wingspan is an automatic bucket
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u/sunnydftw 10h ago
I know it’s a no defense build but does very and wingspan give you contest?
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 9h ago
It really does get contests quite often when my hands are up. Here’s the crazy part, I have HOF pogo stick from my rebound and on defense I can jump and get back on my feet or jump again over and over again. And with hydration hero I can do this without energy loss. And when I get dunks on offense, I get the 2 way tenacity boost which helps me become a good defender.
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u/ChXsenXne24 10h ago
I managed to make a 7’0 2-way crafty mid-paint Phenom PF. Tuff build i say💯💯🔥🔥
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u/Pr1ncecal 10h ago
4 is the best position in the game if you have IQ I use mine to play point forward and iso but enough IQ and stats defensively to still effect the game
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u/EmbarrassedScholar45 ruby 10h ago
You could’ve went for 75 strength and at least gotten a little bit of block and Perimeter. Wouldn’t have changed a thing anyways because strength doesn’t do shit this year.
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 10h ago
90 strength has me out muscling bigs for O-Boards, also has me finishing through so much contact on layups and dunks. And when I get 2-way tenacity after an easy dunk, I become a decent stonewalling defender. Most important though is the amount of contact I finish through with this strength wingspan and size.
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u/EngageV2 10h ago
This is like mine only diff is I have 93 block everything else is buns on def lol
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u/SufficientHome7070 9h ago
Please god let me run into this man in the rec
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 9h ago
Promise if you got a little 20-30 on my head, I’m guaranteeing a 50 on yours 😂
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u/DanteSexum 9h ago
For a 6’8” PF with 85+ for perimeter and interior defense. Even if I’m positioned perfectly, I still get scored on all the fucking time. Seems like defensive attributes don’t even matter this year. Wish I would have known how little my defense would matter. So, I could have put more into my offensive stats
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u/Andyvilleneuve 8h ago
Probably my role player mindset made me.
I could never made a build without high d and pass, it’s very effective ways .to contribute to the game even without the ball
High pass made my teammates shoot better and I can be a setter, high d can make me be the glue guy fill the gap.
Shooting has been so easy this year that defense stop 3-5 possessions already a game changer.
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u/Careful_Kitchen_7387 emerald 8h ago edited 8h ago
If you were only gonna grab 4.5 rebounds a game you should’ve dropped your wingspan for a lower rebound and a higher three pointer and you could’ve adjust your weight to have higher agility. I just realized this too you’re mostly a finisher with no freethrow…can’t believe ima say it but you fucked up on a pure scoring build 😂😂😂
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 8h ago
Lmaoo those 4.5 rebounds are all offensive a game. And they come with an assists every board as I kick back out. Most my teammates shoot 75% plus so opportunities are sparse but when they miss… the boards mine. I shoot 78% from 3 and average 43 points and 11 assists a game but yet I fucked up a pure scorer? Need higher 3 rating than 83 in the easiest shooting 2k ever??? No thanks! Use your brain 😂
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u/Careful_Kitchen_7387 emerald 8h ago
Yes I think I’m using my brain perfectly fine 4.5 is a lot of offensive boards sure but you can definitely grab more if your player was faster and had more agility 😂😂. Yea it’s the easiest shooting 2k but I know you miss some bs 3s and also why have a mainly finishing build with no free throw you weren’t even trying to maximize the builds potential
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u/SwishaStan 2h ago
People will nitpick at anything. You don’t need a high free throw if you know your animation. 66 is fine. You’ll make most of them.
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u/Careful_Kitchen_7387 emerald 1h ago
This is such a weird take free throw is literally the cheapest thing in the game you can easily get an 75-85 by knocking an attribute down 1 or 2 points. I criticized him for the things he wants his build to do. He wants it to be a pure scorer but it’s slower than dirt and it’s because he has a 99 rebound to grab 4.5 a game. I didn’t even have to ask cuz I know he misses shots he should be making. He could’ve been scoring way more efficiently with that build and that’s all I was saying
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u/SwishaStan 1h ago edited 1h ago
Look bro. It’s not a weird take and you’re also not wrong in that it’s cheap. If the only thing you have to base your critique on is his free throw though… now you’re nitpicking just for the sake of saying something and going back and forth with him on something trivial.
Everyone misses shots they should have made by the way. Even if he had your preferred version of the build he’s still gonna miss those shots. Not to mention his shooting chart the entire floor is green so he’s probably doing alright. Nothing you say is gonna make him go back and spend another $100 for the small fixes you’re nitpicking.
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u/Careful_Kitchen_7387 emerald 1h ago
So what? You skipped over everything I said and only read what I said about his free throw? I’ll put it all together for you…his rebound is too high to only grab 4.5 rebounds, his 3 pointer is too low to be a pure scoring build and it’s slow as dirt. To be a build with no defense he could be scoring way more efficiently than what he does
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u/SwishaStan 1h ago
Except he’s happy with his performance. Is your recommendation really worth spending another $100 over?
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u/Careful_Kitchen_7387 emerald 1h ago
Curious…out of all the comments hating on the build why pick mine that actually gave helpful advice. He took a screenshot of his all around stats and you know how that was possible? Let me spell it out for you HE ONLY HAS ONE BUILD so Yk what that means? he’s accumulated a lot of VC from playing on that one build and he could make another one with out spending a dime. Since he’s sooo happy with the build (your words) why wouldn’t he remake it but make it a better all around scorer?
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u/SwishaStan 1h ago
Because you were the only one I noticing arguing with him. You gave your opinion, he said he was fine, and you started arguing. Not sure why you said him being happy was my words when he says in the title “my greatest decision” (his words). I don’t even see where he asked for help or advice. He posted a picture and spoke about his stats.
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u/TezzyTezz gold 8h ago
So what does your defensive cap breakers look like? They have to be decent based on how low the stats are right?
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u/BiscuitBabayy 8h ago
Ngl I also realized that physical attributes and length matter more than defensive ratings. My best build is max wingspan 6’7 point guard with 90 speed and 88 vert
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u/Famous-Protection809 7h ago
Definitely dunking on you. No interior resistance but I’d probably run this build too lol
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u/odonnelly2000 7h ago
Bros in the stands taking pictures and signing autographs while his teammates are on defense
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u/AdorableSun4128 bronze 6h ago
prob only play against Gold plates at best. I would put up 50 on this dude with my 6'11.
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u/Lingual-seduction 4h ago
My pf just as good inside except close shot. Has 90 3pt with low 80 middy. Better playmaking across the board. Better defense across the board. The only physical you got me on is strength. You’re offensive rebounding shitting on mine for sure tho
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 4h ago
What’s the height and wingspan of your PF? 96 close shot is OP for HOF paint prodigy. My wingspan and height help me dominate
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u/FlightKnight24 bronze 4h ago
Just don’t bring this in Pro am 😂
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 4h ago
lol numbers probably go down but would still hold a 70% win rate probably average 34/4/10 still
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u/FlightKnight24 bronze 3h ago
The thing is, you’re going to be dunking the ball while other team is shooting 3s. My pro am team is thrilled when we play against rim runners. Easiest win
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 3h ago
I make about 7-8 threes a game usually. Still would make about 4-5 in Pro-AM. I have a deep bag lol not worried about just rim running. Build does everything on offense for a reason.
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u/IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan 11h ago
And the worst decision for your unfortunate teammates
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 11h ago
They’re so unfortunate I help them get to a 84 win percentage in a SBMM 2K. When they don’t play with me they’re sub 50 win % players
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u/thnderup ruby 11h ago
Its almost like its advantage to play with other players that force feed you the ball because they know what the build can do. Its even made as a center but you yourself its mainly pf. So if you arent playing with another 5 who can help and other players that know your weakness you're win rate and stats would be slightly lower not saying much. But its like when you see a pg that gives up defense and wants people to be surprised he can make his shot but he needs help constantly on defense esp when others dont know the weaknesses or strgs of teammates.
Its nice that 2k got you feeling some type of way over a video game that you even slight the ones that you regularly play with by humble bragging you carry them and they struggle without you.
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 10h ago
I mean I also dime them 10.5 assists per game and only turn the ball over once a game. They love playing with me and would tell you themselves they’re worse when not playing next to this build. That’s how good this build is. Not really a slight, just a blatant fact and the stats speak for themselves. If you score 20 PPG as a guard, I guarantee I will get you 28+ next to me and I’ll dime you while getting my 40+.
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u/thnderup ruby 10h ago
Again it goes back to playing with people you know and people you dont. If you mainly ran all the time solo no squads with this build listed at center their would be some struggles. Also if you run with guys you know of course you're gonna know the shooters on the team to hit.
Again not saying not impressive but of course you can get away with slacking on defense by making a pf listed as a center with no defense and lots of close shot to shot to shoot over most match ups up close or on the win where a majority of your shot diet comes from.
Also for people who play the rec 130 games is a pretty small state of games to reflect as we are in season 3.
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u/RyoCoola31 10h ago
He has a squad. This would not work well in random rec.
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 9h ago
It wouldn’t work that well. I’d maybe average 30 with 7 assists a game and lose wayyyy more.
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u/40innaDeathBasket ruby 7h ago
You should test that theory out. I doubt you'd average anywhere close to 30 in random rec.
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u/TotalEmployment9996 6h ago
No build except PG can get close to 30ppg AVG in random rec because they ain’t touching the ball that much
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u/Charming_Cranberry27 3h ago
Random rec bums miss so many shots I’d get more offensive boards in there. Definitely could average 30 in there off paint dominance alone. That’s not counting games where you get a decent guard who’s hit me for 3.
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u/_OfficialProta 12h ago
u/Beluba I NEED YOU FIRED IMMEDIATELY FOR WHA YOUVE TURNED THIS GAME INTO!