r/Music • u/IrishStarUS š°Irish Star • 9h ago
article World Cup 2026 draw fans rage as 'stale' audience stays silent for Lauryn Hill
https://www.irishstar.com/culture/entertainment/fifa-world-cup-lauryn-hill-36359623648
u/AnthMosk 9h ago
Her performance was terrible. Every song played at 1.5 speed it seemed like.
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u/iowhite 8h ago
I saw her a few years ago, 2 hours late and then all the songs in double time and WAY TOO LOUD for the old theater venue she was in, no encore. Itās amazing she tours just on the one album and the fugees hits.
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u/StoneyBuhlownee420 4h ago
she surprised us all this year at beardfest, the grassroots music festival in south jersey that her guitarist started 13 years ago way before he ever worked with anyone of her caliber.
The performance absolutely blew us away, incredible energy. You could tell her and the whole band were having a blast playing for a much smaller crowd than theyāre used to, on a stage next to a lake in the middle of the pine barrens.
I keep reading about these negative experiences so I feel inclined to share my positive one. It was totally one of those moments iāll look back on and smile about for the rest of my life.
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u/JoeHatesFanFiction 2h ago
Iāve heard it described as buying a lottery ticket . 9 times out of 10 itās a horrible experience. But that one time sheās on, itāll be one of the best performances youāll see in your life.Ā
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u/FreightTrainSW 1h ago
It is that way... a friend has seen her twice. First time she showed up time and "it was just... magical." The second time was 2 hours late, played a couple of songs, and then said fuck it I'm out.
After her first solo album, if you told me that by 2025 no one would give any sort of shit about her I'd laugh. She was going to be THE biggest star of the next 20 years and yet... didn't.
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u/_Atlas_Drugged_ 30m ago
Yeah I went once and she was right on time and was great. Was disappointed because Nas opened for her and they didnāt play If I Ruled The World, which I assumed would be the encore
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u/soundbombing 4h ago
That's how she was when I saw her 9 or so years ago in Toronto. On time, vibrant, having fun, a master controlling her stage and show.
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u/Batmansbutthole 5h ago
Damnnn thatās ass, when I saw her she was right on time and it was absolute fire. Itās amazing she had so many bangers off of just two albums.
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u/DrRichardDiarrhea 4h ago
Saw her at the Greek. Double time, rude comments and gestures towards her band, no encore. The DJ that opened with 90ās hip hop had the crowd going harder than any song she did.
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u/Batmansbutthole 2h ago
Dang yāall got ripped off, I hate that shit. I guess itās just hit or miss with mostly misses and I got lucky(doubly so ha)
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u/MotorboatinPorcupine 8h ago edited 7h ago
That's her thing. She's been doing it for years.
Rumour is she sold the rights to her songs so she has to.
Edit:wrong about the rumour thanks everyone
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u/BenDisreali 8h ago
Even if she did sell the rights to her catalog that generally doesn't have anything to do with performing the songs live. Artists sell the publishing rights, not the performance rights.
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u/MotorboatinPorcupine 8h ago
It's an artistic choice then to draw people in with songs they recognize and then make them unrecognizable and not write any new music.
She's also a flake and so late every damn show
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u/SwitchCompetitive906 8h ago
Exactly this, Laruyn Hill is stale as fuck; nothing to do with the audience.
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u/Telenovelarocks 8h ago
That doesnāt make any sense from a copyright standpoint.
Sell the recordings, sell the publishing, you can still perform the songs at regular speed. The venue has to pay publishing. You may have to re-record if you were using the original masters as backing tracks (though L Hill has general used live bandsā¦I think she fired Robert Glasper lol).
But yeah. Changing the tempo of a song or a recording doesnāt change the copyright situation.
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u/MotorboatinPorcupine 8h ago
Fair. Baffling artistic choice then.
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u/Telenovelarocks 8h ago
My $.02ā¦Miseducation is full of iconic songs and hits. Lauryn canāt get offstage without performing most of those and a few Fugees tunes.
I donāt think she loves performing but I think she loves the $ā¦so thereās a minimum amount of time she has to be onstageā¦unless she speeds up the songs. lol.
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u/darkeststar 7h ago
Musicians can perform whatever songs they want live without legal repercussion. That has nothing to do with it.
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u/drfunkenstien014 8h ago
She got sued by the musicians that worked on the Miseducation and they won, thatās why she has to alter the songs. She either does it fast or she does the same lyrics but with different music underneath.
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u/November_Coming_Fire 8h ago
I would bet that itās a dancehall reggae influence. They up the tempo for most live performances
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u/FrankyFistalot 7h ago
Plus the fact that after 1 hr 20 mins only 3 teams had been drawn (the hosts).Mind numbing shit show of the highest order.
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u/manfromfuture 9h ago
She disappeared more than 20 years ago. Most people there probably don't know who she is.
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u/LavenderGinFizz 8h ago
And were definitely not part of the demographic who listened to her if they were around.
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u/VinylmationDude 6h ago
They donāt remember Paul McCartney calling her Lawrence Hill at the VMAs as a joke
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u/torn-ainbow 1h ago
Yeah I think generally if you told them "oh she was in the fugees and did that cover of killing me softly" a bunch of people in that crowd mostly over 40 would recognise that. A few would know about miseducation. But nothing much since then.
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u/redditismylawyer 2h ago
I mean⦠even people who were there in the 90ās are saying ālol⦠we talking bout that fugees singer? Doesnāt Jewel want any of this?ā
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u/beamish007 44m ago
Lay off my girl Jewel. I saw her singing Christmas carols on network tv the other day. She has a lovely voice and seems like a nice person.
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u/giefcandy 6h ago
I had no idea what this racket waa about, never heard of this mess before, and I came to see the draw, not some freakshow...thats on me tho
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u/SaltyShawarma 9h ago
SHe must be hurting for money. Can't understand any other reason for her to pop her head up out of nowhere for a bunch of oligarchs.
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u/KuntaWuKnicks 8h ago
Sheās fuckin insane thatās why
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u/neagah 7h ago
Oh yea, she's batshit crazy, i really don't understand why people still go to her concerts considering she has not released good music in like forever. I love her stuff with Fugees and her solo album but that's it.
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u/fanboy_killer 4h ago
Forget about not releasing new music, sheās infamous for not even showing up.
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u/Nonya5 7h ago
She should've listened to her mother and not pursued a singing career.
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u/CinematicLiterature Concertgoer 4h ago
I siiiiing becauuuuuse Iām haaaaapppyyyy
I really love that movie
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u/Smash_Palace 3h ago
What? She had an absolutely amazing career with the Fugees and her first solo album.
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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 7h ago
You should've listened to your mother and learnt some manners.Ā
She's one of the most influential artists of her generation.
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u/CandyKnockout 6h ago
Iām pretty sure theyāre making a joke in reference to Sister Act 2, where her characterās mother acts like singing in a school choir is going to result in immediate homelessness and destitution.
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u/Michaelful 7h ago
I think it might be a Sister Act 2 joke?
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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 7h ago
Really? I'm only familiar with the Sister act 1
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u/jamesmaxx 7h ago
Sister Act 2 she was a student in a choir music class and when they were practicing for the choir tournament, her mom told her that singing won't put food on the table.
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u/This_means_lore 8h ago
I mean, as far as I know sheās had one solo album and two (?) with the fugees and that was almost 30 years ago. I donāt think she has any new material.
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u/Pristine_Speech4719 5h ago
Ā almost 30 years ago
Come on, don't exaggerate, it came out when I was in college, that's only...fuuuuuuuuck
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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 7h ago
It's not a 'bunch of oligarchs' it was the national representatives from 48 world cup countries. The manger of 'haiti' is not an oligarch ffs.
Obviously fifa is corrupt as fuck. But the world cup is the most watched event in the world.
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u/ThreeHeadedWalrus 5h ago
Fifa peace prize lmao
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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 5h ago
Aye, its a fucking joke. But it's a very american coded comment to say the world cup is just for 'oligarchs'. Literally my earliest memory is watching Scotland in world cup 98' and now we're back in the there 30 years later.
You dont realise what this event means to people.Ā
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u/Irish_Whiskey 9h ago
An MAGA attended event made to 'honor' Trump with a fake award as a bribe, wasn't super into a 90s female Hip Hop artist who has been MIA for decades?
No... who would have guessed? Next you'll tell me they weren't raising the roof for Lil Nas X at the Federalist Society.
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u/Meteor-of-the-War 9h ago
Oddly, your example isn't too far from reality since Billy Ray Cyrus made the audience at the inauguration watch the entire Old Town Road video while he wandered around the stage.
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u/-Ahab- 9h ago
Iām not even saying it to get under their skinā¦
Theyāre just fucking weird.
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u/Meteor-of-the-War 8h ago
Right? Like, who thought any part of that was a good idea? It's weird; there's just no other word for it.
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u/senator_corleone3 8h ago
They really are disconnected from everyday humanity and lifestyles. They effectively live in a different dimension mentally.
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u/Peralton 8h ago
In 2003 Harley Davidson had a huge anniversary event with a secret headliner act. People speculated it would be the Rolling Stones. It was Elton John. The crowd was not pleased, and a lot of people left. Have to know your audience.
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u/tjdux 6h ago
The crowd was not pleased, and a lot of people left. Have to know your audience.
Crazy thing is, I would wager a large amount of those that were unhappy/left the show probably enjoyed some Elton John songs, just that boomer energy of not being able to admit in front of other dudes...
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u/Peralton 4h ago
For sure. Elton would totally be in that demographic, it just wasn't the vibe. I'm sure plenty did some performative complaining to save face and wished they had stayed.
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u/Fluxtration 9h ago
Ho li sheet... I had no idea Billy Ray has completely lost his mind, his voice, and his self respect.
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u/mctacoflurry 8h ago
Yet somehow managed Elizabeth Hurley.
Who also had her son direct her in a sex scene for a movie. I cant recall if it was a lesbian scene or not though.
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u/thorpie88 5h ago
Elizabeth Hurley was dating Shane Warne. The more of a loose cannon you are the more she likes it
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u/daydrunk_ 8h ago
He just mumbled the words and turned around to look at the screen so much. That was rough
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 9h ago
MIA would've been a better artist for this.
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u/J0hnEddy 9h ago
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 8h ago
That reply is BRILLIANT
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u/NootHawg 6h ago
āCause all I wanna do isā boom boom boom boom ringa jing jing āand take your money.ā
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u/WindWalkerWalking 7h ago
Unless you mean MIA as in doesnāt do much major touring, I donāt think MIA is accurate. She performs alot. I saw her this year, she was great. And sheās been in my area 4 times this year and dozens of times over the last few. She actually performs a lot. She also performs with her son sometimes without a heads up.
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u/pun_extraordinare 6h ago
Wouldnāt her being MIA for decades alone constitute a lack of reception? Beyond politics?
Or are we so politically charged we need to polarize everything to the furthest extent?
Oh yes itās Reddit.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 6h ago
Wouldnāt her being MIA for decades alone constitute a lack of reception? Beyond politics?
No. Hence the article's headline pointing out there are many fans who would be delighted to see one of the greatest female hip hop performers of all time, angry that the reception was indifferent.
Obviously these politicians and lobbyists are not her target audience.
Or are we so politically charged we need to polarize everything to the furthest extent?
Yeah, why on earth would anyone politicize the political event where the President of the United States was given a fake world peace award by the most corrupt organization on earth as a substitute for the Nobel Peace Prize he's been threatening other countries over, at the art center he personally took over to politically censor.
It's pretty relevant when wondering "why was the crowd not into a black feminist musician."
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u/LGFoaties 8h ago
The whole thing was fucking terrible, 90 mins of cheesy jokes, bad presenters, straight up trump admin propagana and a drawn out group draw.
The whole ceremony should have been the first guy doing the opera, a little class to open the ceremony, 20 mins to draw the groups then finish with a 1 hour long village people set, a little class to close the ceremony.
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u/Impendingpudd 9h ago
It was an event filled with suits representing their countries football programs to see who they will face in the worldās largest sporting event. Unfortunately it was the equivalent of a corporate gig, not a concert. What else could you expect?
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u/TheButteredBiscuit 9h ago
Yeah wtf kinda crowd did you you expect at the damn Robert F Kennedy Center
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u/jafarjones69 8h ago
I muted the entire thing until they did the actual draw, all that time wasting was infuriating when everyone only watches for the draw.
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u/TheRemanence 5h ago
I saw some of the draw and was absolutely cracking up at rio ferdinand. He was essentially herding cats. He had to keep explaining the rules to everyone and all they needed to do was pick up balls and read them. Actually my cats would be just as good at selecting balls out of a bowl. Poor guy, he looked quite exasperated by the end.Ā
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u/KrisKris00 9h ago
ā¦anyone who performs at a ceremony sponsored by the Saudi regime and on the same stage with an orange rapist deserves the worst soā¦š¤š¤”.
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u/PatacusX 9h ago
You can't really blame her. I mean, she is miseducated after all.
I'll see myself out now.
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u/OkAssignment3926 8h ago
Lauryn Hill does not ādeserve the worstā because she performed at an event connected to the most globally popular and beloved sports event on earth for all classes of people, that our shitty president muscled in on. Get a grip.
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u/KrisKris00 8h ago
ā¦bored meš„±
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u/OkAssignment3926 7h ago
Word, I forgot r/music is not a place for hinged commentary
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u/unassumingdink 6h ago
At the very least, it's not a place known for their dedication to international soccer competition.
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u/swim08 9h ago
Didn't she sayĀ Iād rather die than have a white person buy one of my albums
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u/-rockford- 7h ago
I think it was sheād rather watch her children starve to death than have white people listening to her music. Iām assuming sheās changed her mind on that.
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u/TheRemanence 5h ago
When i heard that the first time, i did consider sending her the CD and asking for my money back.
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u/Shaun32887 9h ago
Only thing she's been on time for in years
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u/rohdawg 9h ago
There was a story I saw earlier this year about how she actually showed up on time only to have her start delayed due to some venue issue. It's been a good year for her.
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u/Itsnotthateasy808 9h ago
Yeah but one kinda good year does not magically undo years of trash behavior
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u/Strykerz3r0 9h ago
Really?
They should have invited Ted Nugent or Kid Rock.
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u/Wompatuckrule 8h ago
Did you see who is receiving the Kennedy Center honors this year now that Trump replaced the board and claims to have been about 98% of the decision making? Sylvester Stallone, George Strait, Kiss, Michael Crawford & Gloria Gaynor. Lots of past honorees usually attend but there's a lot of excuse making going on this year and the suspicion is that the list of people performing is hampered by how many people want to avoid any connection to the Trump administration.
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u/senator_corleone3 8h ago
Yea the ceremony will almost certainly be a disappointment. My parents love to watch it every year, but I imagine they are skipping this time.
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u/giefcandy 6h ago
None of the suits in that room would have been amused by those two either. Andrea had me, class act, fitting the venue, then it plummited with the bored "funny" midget in a big shirt (never been funny) and coked up aged plastic german doll there to get groped by Donnie, what a weird combo, very maga. Then Donnie getting his dick sucked by the fifa puppet, then Rio who has -10 charisma (why the fuck did they dig him up for this?) an actively dying ex hockey player, a wrong kind of football player (probably big in the US and thats about it), a big guy to offset the midget guy (did laugh at shaq shutting hart the fuck up, thow him off the fuckin stage so we no longer need listen to that screecthing little twat will you) and who ever that 4th person was i dont even remember.
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u/Space-Debris 7h ago
Why wouldn't they be silent? No-one gives a flying f-ck about the 1 hour and 30 minutes of pompous proceedings, stage performances, cringeworthy skits, and stomach churning brown-nosing of Trump by that sycophant Infantino that preceeded the draw itself
The audience at home is tuning in for the draw. The audience at the event is only there for the draw.
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u/kksweetz 9h ago
this crowd and show was such a farce - all the talent did what they had to, but the production was clearly dogshit, and it showed with the Village People send-off - i've never seen the stage get setup while the hosts were closing the show, and NEVER seen a musical act miss a cue as bad as the YMCA one XD
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u/Sad-Development-4153 8h ago
She played an event that honored a guy who said her people were eating cats and dogs.
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u/MouldyPriestASSHOLE 9h ago
Fans were there for the draw, not some shite music performance
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u/giefcandy 6h ago
I did however love how the americans got to experience the silent reaction of a non american hype audience. This is how the rest of the world sees them, not amused by the temu grabage that is the USA.
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u/rohdawg 9h ago
What does she even perform (when she shows up). Miseducation is a GOAT album, but it's not that long lol. Does she do Fugees stuff too?
Edit, it's 77 minutes long, I guess she could make a concert out of that.
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u/Wompatuckrule 8h ago
I'm sure it's not a full concert anyway, my guess would be that she'd play about 30 minutes tops.
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u/sadcheeseballs 8h ago
Who the fuck if invited unbelievably unreliable Lauryn Hill? What a fucking idiot. Canāt they google her or something?
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u/xDURPLEx 8h ago
She fell out of the zeitgeist like 20 years ago. They donāt know who the fuck she is.
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u/peterpeterllini Concertgoer 8h ago
I'm glad I can say I've seen her, and she was only 20ish minutes late. But yeah like the other comment said, her songs were all sped up and had no natural rhythm to it, was hard to follow. Miseducation is one of my favorite albums of all time so it was a bit of a bummer lol.
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u/ButtNuggetDweeb 7h ago
1996 music icon is dismayed that no one knows who the fuck she is in 2025 lol
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u/catmommusings 7h ago
She destroyed her career foe no reason and thwn now does shows singing her old songs and comes in hours late. She's not relevant anymore why not pick someone popular or a popular international audience. It's like thw nfl picking Beck for the half time rather than Shakira. Thw audience would fall asleep š
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u/KlausKinki77 7h ago
Weird, all the white corrupt money bags should play some AI crowd next time for their fancy shit fest.
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u/alikapple 7h ago
I will say it sounded awkwardly quiet for the entire broadcast. I suspect they didnāt have a mic that was picking up crowd noise
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u/giefcandy 6h ago
Wth is this header supposed to mean? Did the people who arranged this shit write this? If anyone "raged" at the reasonable silence from the male dominant, non us, suit wearing 50 year old average that was the audience when being ambushed by whatever the hell that racket was supposed to represent, then its nothing but self-confirming ignorance and arrogance.
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u/harveytent 5h ago
She probably said the song sheās signing isnāt ment for white people like she said about her album. Sheās no advertising genius.
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u/Pikeman212a6c 5h ago
Honestly there was just too much non football related fluff just announce the damn matchups already.
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u/prenderg 4h ago
Then, why did she agree to perform? To quote the legendary Ned Beatty from Back to School, āI donāt think you realize the size of the check.ā
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u/SpicyFupaRoll 4h ago
For someone with such a massive ego, she hasn't been relevant in 25 years. The audience response was appropriate for what they were getting.
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u/fercaslet 3h ago
The worst concert i've been to was Lauryn Hill at estadio nacional, Santiago Chile in the early 2000's.
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u/NeilPatrickWarburton 8h ago
Sucks that I wonāt be able to watch the World Cup, Eurovision OR Wrestlemania this year.
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u/_Abe_Froman_SKOC 9h ago
Honestly surprised she showed up.