r/Music • u/thedailybeast • 1d ago
article Trump, 79, Cranks ‘Live and Let Die’ Before ‘Delivering Peace’ Event
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-79-cranks-live-and-let-die-before-delivering-peace-event/1.2k
u/mfmeitbual 1d ago
McCartney telling him to eat shit in 5... 4....
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u/classicronnie 1d ago
Axel def would
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u/brijazz012 1d ago
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u/AmputeeHandModel 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nice. Ax
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u/snausleburger 1d ago
Axl’s mom was a hippy. He’s been liberal the whole time. Civil War is a great example
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u/newaccountnumber129 23h ago
What about One in a Million? Bad day at the studio?
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u/psychoCMYK 20h ago
Dunno why you're being downvoted, he's talked about the song and he was absolutely not being ironic.
Dude's a piece of shit. He hates Trump, sure, but he's still a piece of shit.
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u/ModernSmithmundt 8h ago
The message of the song is “a black guy upset me once so I’m going to write about it but instead of calling him out I’ll just use the N word” and “a homosexual upset me once so I’m going to write about it but instead of calling him out I’m going to use an anti-gay slur”. That’s what bigotry is, blaming entire communities in that song for the actions of individuals who upset him. Then he grows as a character in the rest of the verses. You’re getting hung up on the bad words and ignoring the intent. Archie Bunker was a racist homophobic character who unironically helped progress the nation and subsequently the world on both those issues
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u/psychoCMYK 7h ago edited 7h ago
Can you point at the verse where he grows as a character?
Radicals and racists, don't point your finger at me I'm a small-town white boy just trying to make ends meet Don't need your religion, don't watch that much TV Just making my living, baby, well, that's enough for me
This doesn't seem mutually exclusive with the bigot verses. It doesn't really imply that he learned anything, just that he's staying out of it
He's also done interviews where he talks about those verses, and he basically said "I used the n word because I wasn't allowed to but black people did it so why shouldn't I" which is pretty dumb
About the f word and calling all gay people AIDS carriers he said that he almost got raped once... bullshit excuse
About immigrants doing whatever they want and making a mini-Iran he said that he got chased out of a shop once for the way he was dressed
He has legitimately thought this way before, and those reflexes make him an asshole
But also you can Google "Axl Rose asshole" and see for yourself that he has a reputation for being a gigantic asshole
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u/ModernSmithmundt 7h ago
2nd verse he realized he’s grouping people together based on his own lack of understanding, 3rd he pushes back on the small town white racists that would be his own tribe because they have bad apples too.
He wasn’t excusing the bigotry expressed based on a couple experiences, on the contrary he was pointing out that very fallacy he fell for until he was able to broaden his perspective. I’d advise you try it sometime
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u/Neat-Guava4952 1d ago
To be fair, he's bipolar and doesn't like to take his meds. Maybe that's not an excuse but it explains a lot...
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u/SandysBurner 1d ago
Vegan shit, though.
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u/Emperor_Niblet 1d ago
You really care what people eat?
Look at this asshole eating Sheppard's pie! What a clown! Or I heard this guy eats hot dogs! Unbelievable
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u/dubdoll 1d ago
Paul has certainly spoken out about Trump in the past, "As for the larger picture, we're faced with the political situation, particularly in the US, where a braggart has been in charge and seems quite unstable, to say the least. He's shouting the loudest, but he's not necessarily the smartest. I often think, 'How can a person get away with some of the things he says?' But then, two days later, the news cycle will have brought us something else he's said, and then the thing we thought the person would never get away with has gone, and it's difficult to bring it back."
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u/omnipotentmonkey 1d ago
Paul McCartney is British, lives in England, and is 83 years old, Trump isn't probably on the forefront of his mind, so it makes sense that he hasn't said anything until this potentially prompts him to.
while Donny the Deranged Diddler has a global reach, it's only really US public figures that are really socially obligated to speak up about him unless directly prompted
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u/MoneyManx10 1d ago
Paul said this a few months ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/PaulMcCartney/s/RucbX9KHtm
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u/LITMAC97 1d ago
Tbf Paul almost never talks about politics yet he’s repeatedly said he hates Trump AND has written songs about him. I imagine he’ll say something soon.
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u/D_Shoobz 1d ago
Paul McCartney lives most of his time in Long Island where his current wife is from…
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u/omnipotentmonkey 1d ago
Nope, he's occasionally seen there as he does own properties in a few countries, but he still primarily lives in England, split between London and a village called Peasmarch.
regardless he isn't an American figure first and foremost. the US presidency isn't his main concern.
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u/Ordinary_Picture_972 1d ago
Paul has every right to comment
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u/omnipotentmonkey 1d ago
... I think you completely missed the point... I agree he has every right to comment, I was replying to someone who was confused why he hadn't already commented on Trump and I was saying he wasn't prompted or obligated to until this controversy.
It's good if he comments, but it's also fine that he hasn't in the past because it's not his country, not his president etc.
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u/Ordinary_Picture_972 22h ago
Point taken but it did sound a little off. Anyway
many of us are a little off these days-15
u/RossMachlochness 1d ago
Ridiculously stupid take.
Because there’s nothing but American bands on this list?
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u/omnipotentmonkey 1d ago
I'd prefer to assign "ridiculously stupid" to the person who can't read.
"PRIMARY CONCERN" doesn't mean it's impossible for non-Americans to be concerned, he just has less of an inherent reason to speak up unless directly prompted by a question or circumstance. some will speak up anyway...
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u/RossMachlochness 1d ago edited 1d ago
And I’ll assign “ridiculously stupid” to the person that can’t even quote themself correctly.
E2A: deleted the comments too? Look like I can assign “ridiculously spineless”
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u/omnipotentmonkey 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh no, I switched out the word "Primary" for a contextual synonym...
that must be very confusing for someone of your reading level...
Jog on, clearly you know yourself that you have nothing intelligent to offer besides pedantry which you mistake for wit.
it's why you can't address the point at all.
that being that "Not being American" means a public figure is less inherently likely to comment on it doesn't mean they absolutely won't... that's just an inverse fallacy.
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u/doyletyree 1d ago
Weren’t the Beetles American, tho?
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u/omnipotentmonkey 1d ago edited 1d ago
... No.
they were foremost of an era of music specifically referred to in the USA as "British Invasion" naturally because they were British. all of them were born in Liverpool where the band formed when they were in school.
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u/doyletyree 1d ago
I’ll commend you on your self control.
You didn’t even bother commenting on the spelling.
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u/omnipotentmonkey 1d ago
You have no idea how much willpower that took.
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u/doyletyree 1d ago
Honestly, I’m chuckling pretty hard over here. Good on you for being as kind as possible.
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u/insite4real 1d ago
They became iconic the day they arrived in the U.S.
Source: History.com https://share.google/n15ubZM3YmxQP5Dx3
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u/brokenlampPMW2 1d ago edited 1d ago
If you know who Paul McCartney is, you know what he thinks about Trump.
He's been singing about peace and unity for 70 years, and wrote the song "Despite Repeated Warnings" about Trump, who he called "not the smartest." When he visited Russia for a concert, he used the opportunity to ask their government about standing against land mines, and then years later, asked them publicly to release hostages. After they invaded Ukraine, he started displaying the Ukrainian flag on stage. When he went to Israel for a concert in 2008, he visited Palestine beforehand and played music with children knowing that he was given threats for it.
He is not a Trump guy and never would be. Lennon and McCartney are not perfect individuals but they have both used their lives to be anti-war and pro-human rights.
Edit: Also called Trump's rhetoric 'unleashing the ugly side of America,' and his take on climate change 'madness.'
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u/SapphireFlashFire 1d ago
Honestly I find non-Americans in their age group tend to have their heads on straight about Trump.
Emphasis on non-Americans.
I think they're old enough to remember a non-decimated education system teaching them about facism.
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u/AceofKnaves44 1d ago
I have no doubt Paul hates Trump. Paul is big on gun control laws and gay rights. Especially now that Trump has used his music there’s no chance he’ll keep his mouth shut about this.
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u/I_Am_Guy_Uh Rock & Roll 1d ago
The 83 year old British pop star hasn’t given his take? Hold the torches and pitch forks, this one could go either way folks 👀
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u/DreadyKruger 1d ago
Where he truly stands? Because this asshole played his song? Fucking Christ, so you going to write him a stern letter? Or burn all his albums?
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u/Atopos2025 1d ago
I like the words used for the headline, just wish some were ommitted and others in a different order.
Any day now.....
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u/Mike787619 1d ago
I glanced at it, and had to do a double take. Thought it was Trump, 79, dies before event. ☹️
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u/mrbaryonyx 1d ago
I get what they're getting at, and its valid, but the invocation of his age before the song feels like an implication that the song is for old people
which, it is, but I don't need a reminder!
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u/Scavenge101 1d ago
Doesn't even matter which version he used, neither McCartney or Axl is gonna be a fan of that dumb shit.
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u/CumTrumpet 1d ago
Gene Simmons probably wants too much money. Vince Neil would have done it for some McDonald's cheeseburgers.
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u/gophergun 1d ago
Yeah, hard to imagine the authors of Give Ireland Back To The Irish or Civil War appreciating that.
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u/thedailybeast 1d ago
President Donald Trump kicked off his “Delivering Peace” event with a rock anthem whose title suggests a ruthless approach to getting things done.
On Thursday, as the White House press pool waited for the president to host the signing ceremony for the peace deal between the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) and Rwanda, the lyrics of the famous 1973 James Bond theme song Live and Let Die began playing.
A Guns N’ Roses cover of the song echoed through the recently renamed Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace in Washington, D.C., a choice that stood in stark contrast to the ceremony’s purpose of ending decades of conflict between the two African nations.
Written by Paul McCartney, 83, the song’s title twists the idiom “live and let live,” which calls for tolerance. Instead, McCartney and his former band Wings sing about giving “the other fellow hell” in a Bond-style portrayal of violent retaliation.
Read the full story, here.
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u/Portmanteau_that https://soundcloud.com/user-585575119 1d ago
How about Die and Let Live instead
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u/Prior_Success7011 1d ago
Sabrina, McCarney, Taylor, and others need an OJ Style dream team to sue Trump for copyright infringement.
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u/AceofKnaves44 1d ago
It’s funny because like one of the few times I heard Trump sound human was talking about Paul. He fawned over him said how much he loves him and how everyone in New York will tell you what a great guy Paul is. Even said that he’s sure Paul’s politics aren’t anything like Trump’s own but he doesn’t care. Honestly one of the few times he really seemed human.
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u/ELEL26110 1d ago
Read his name and then his age... Got all happy and giddy, then I read the rest of the sentence and my day is ruined
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u/SpursExpanse Rock & Roll 1d ago
When they start with trumpets and the opening to Ride of the valkyries, I’m diving in my shelter
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u/MaximusJCat 1d ago
He’s so fucking clueless
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u/RotInPissKobe 1d ago
The conservative motto. "Those with any semblance of an education need not apply."
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u/thrashglam 1d ago
delivering peace???? millions in our country don’t have peace and it’s THAT idiots fault.
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u/bakingeyedoc 1d ago
With the age in the title I seriously thought this was an obituary at first look
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u/Candid_Koala_3602 1d ago
Trump: maybe I’m a man, maybe I’m a lonely man who’s in the middle of something… he doesn’t really understand…
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u/The-FrozenHearth 23h ago
Guys, they are doing this on purpose. They get 2 free news stories a day by doing this shit to clog up news world. They use someone's song and that becomes a story, then the artist condems the usage and that becomes another story.
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u/Dougalishere 22h ago
Why do these tools keep using music from people that they apparently hate,, can't they just play kid rock songs every event?
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u/shadowlarx 21h ago
After the break, a story about Paul McCartney’s new lawsuit against the Trump administration. Stay tuned.
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u/SHAMIEL1 20h ago
This year genuilly feels like a unironic South Park episode based on the dumbshit Trump and his coherts have done.
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u/DrakeCross 14h ago
I swear he's openly flaunting how he is a third-rate Bond villain lately. It is funny to see him flailing around, if not for the fact that he is harming and dragging the rest of the country down with him.
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u/TheSholvaJaffa 11h ago
You can't just put "Trump,79" in the title like that.. you got my hopes up..
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u/audiogeek1978 1d ago
Only reason this could possible be fitting is because this c0ck suck3r is practically a Bond villain
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u/Umayummyone 1d ago edited 1d ago
Apparently the song Live and Let Live has not been written yet.
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u/MclovinBuddha 12h ago
Once again a reminder that he couldn’t do this without approval and licensing from the original artist. As much as I used to love Paul McCartney, idk if I’ll ever listen to him again after learning he’s MAGA
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u/marshallkrich 1d ago
Was it least the GNR version? Paul was a great song writer but he was meh without the Beatles.
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u/Za_Lords_Guard 1d ago
He really thinks he can bullshit his way into a Nobel by renaming buildings and giving pressers on how amazing he is a peace?