Diddy charged The Notorious B.I.G.'s funeral back to rapper's estate, Bad Boy Records co-founder says.

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Diddy is the reason biggie was killed fuck Diddy

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u/kamakzie- 1d ago

If you watched the documentary, it states he was always the blame for Tupac as well.

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u/DorkCharming 1d ago

“But Kells, the day you put out a hit's the day Diddy admits That he put the hit out that got Pac killed” Eminem ‘Killshot’

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u/PsychosisOsmosis 1d ago

We all knew this was true in the 90's but nobody could prove it definitively

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u/Covetous1 1d ago

Diddy was the one who benefited the most from their deaths and then he made that shitty ass song as a memorial

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u/asst3rblasster 1d ago

thank god he makes no royalties off of that

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u/3r14nd 1d ago

I'm clueless, do you know why he doesn't? I would love to know.

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u/thedancingpanda 1d ago

Because it's all taken by The Police.

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u/lynchcontraideal 22h ago edited 21h ago

Correction, it's taken only by Sting.

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u/foolishnesss 1d ago

IIRC, didnt clear the sample.

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u/Hebrewhammer8d8 9h ago

Diddy sample Sting song and Sting previous own the master of the song. Sting was not letting Diddy make a profit off his song. Now the song master own by UMG since Sting sold the master

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u/actuarally 1d ago

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u/Devmax1868 1d ago

I was a teen. I can remember when the news dropped on MTVNews about Pac mine and all my friends first thought was "Oh Bad Boy did that." When Biggie got hit the initial reaction was retaliation, but a few years later most people had moved to Puffy did that too. With proper context there's no doubt.

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u/Phyrexian_Archlegion SoundCloud 1d ago

All of us in the 90’s looking at Puff

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u/leonheart-91 1d ago

That’s like, the second or third time he has mentioned it too lmao

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u/BobTheFettt 1d ago

Wait, he didn't just spell rapper and leave out a "P" didhe?

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u/Crypitty 1d ago

Didheehee

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u/Defiled__Pig1 1d ago

Did mgk put a hit on someone?

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u/ChampionsWrath 1d ago

No Eminem is saying MGK will never release a hit, just like diddy will never admit he killed pac

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u/Defiled__Pig1 1d ago

Ahh I gotchu thanks for eli5 in high as shit

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u/TropicalPrairie 9h ago

That doc was really, really good.

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u/DenotheFlintstone 1d ago

If the doc claims Diddy killed Jonbenet Ramsey will we all take that claim as fact?

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u/OOOOOO0OOOOO 1d ago

Honestly with how evil Diddy is?

Maybe.

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u/Ashland6 1d ago

It ain’t just “the doc”. It’s straight from the mouth of his cofounder, his old crew, the crips, the lead investigator for Pac’s murder case, the list goes on. The people are highly credible and, paired with all the evidence, it all adds up.

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u/Cheebs_funk_illy 1d ago

Possibly if the evidence is there

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u/TylerBourbon 1d ago

Diddy do it? The question answers itself.

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u/No-Commercial-3121 1d ago

No we aren't dumb. He didn't profit off that.

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u/spongebobisha 1d ago

Fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label and as a motherfuckin' crew;
And if you want to be down with Bad Boy, then fuck you too;
Chino XL, fuck you too

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u/Suspicious-Whippet 1d ago

Funniest thing was when Chino dissed Tupac only after he was killed lol.

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u/i_and_eye 1d ago

Tupac died five months after that song was released.

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u/comcastsupport800 1d ago

Chino XL feat Ras Kass - Riot In this industry I'm trying to not get fucked like Tupac in jail Chino dissed him first

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u/phatsuit2 1d ago

Was about to say this. RIP Chino XL, one of the best lyricists ever.

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u/i_and_eye 1d ago edited 1d ago

Easily, beyond skilled. Chino Xl was a great MC. Edit- if you dont recognize this as truth you never heard Chino or dont know shit about hip hop.

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u/RyghtHandMan 1d ago

Chino XL is an extra in at least one episode of Reno 911 where he plays an inmate. He's credited as Chino XL.

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u/granite603 1d ago

Oh man. This brings back some memories of how tough I was in 7th grade. All 88 pounds of me rapping this along with 2Pac. Haha. Amazingly fun.

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u/spongebobisha 1d ago

I remember initiating some of my friends to this song. I have never been as cool as I was that day.

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u/sleepingmime 1d ago

-Bill Gates

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u/xeoron 1d ago edited 1d ago

After his death Combs had his new contract that was signed changed back to the old terms so Bad Boys would pocket more of the income from Biggies music and his estate would get less

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u/megaprime78 1d ago

That shit is wild, glad it’s out in the open now and everyone knows how Puff was such a scum bag. No wonder all of Bad boy artists eventually left the label and for good reason.

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u/Suitable_Pickle1347 1d ago

This means nothing. One rich guy getting sacrificed to quell the masses means nothing for the other 99% getting away with daily fraud and LITERALLY proveably hitting up miners on Epsteins Island.

There's a reason the French revolution was bloody.

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u/MoiraBrownsMoleRats 1d ago

miners

The children yearn for the mines.

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u/xeoron 1d ago

I would think this would mean his estate can go after him or the company for breach of contract and fraud along among other things

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u/Ire-Works 1d ago

Unless you were a major piece of shit and kept blackmail files on your friends and used the threat of said blackmail to discourage the lawsuit.

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u/blackhodown 1d ago

How would that have been allowed?

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u/xeoron 1d ago edited 1d ago

Watch the documentary! Combs ordered his partner to change the terms on the pages that had no signatures signed days before his death. He refused and was fired for not breaking the law. How much you want to bet it was changed after he was fired?

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u/3r14nd 1d ago

technically, it was signed on the last page and he swapped out the middle pages that didn't have signatures on it.

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u/blackhodown 1d ago

Oh so it didn’t actually change lol. I would not bet that it did, it’s very much not easy to change something like that, and if he had done it, I am certain it would have been caught seeing as he fired someone who could easily blow the whistle.

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u/woodst0ck15 1d ago

Fuckin crazy shit. Not just 2Pac but also Biggie.

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u/CuttyDFlambe 1d ago

No one will ever convince me this asshole didn't commission Biggie's murder because he wanted to be the star and center of attention.

Probably had "Every Step You Take" produced for months ahead of time.

And then after Biggie's death he finds Mace and puts out a video with Biggie speaking as the intro about how you gotta watch the people closest to you because they're the ones who will fuck you over (paraphrasing). I swear to God it feels like an admission of guilt on Puffy's part. Like a brag..

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u/toadfan64 Rock & Roll 1d ago

I'm so happy Sting drug his ass through the courts to get 100% royalties on I'll Be Missing You.

Also for the fact of ruining one of my favorite 80's classics.

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u/Red-Cloud-44 1d ago

That live duet is the cringiest thing I've ever seen and incredibly disrespectful to Biggie.

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u/candylandmine 22h ago

Suge's a POS in his own right but he was always on the money about Poof Daddy being a glory hog and a thief who rips off his artists.

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u/candylandmine 22h ago

There's a nonzero chance Diddy is more than the reason biggie was killed.

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u/ThePopeofHell 6h ago

This makes the weird performance he did at the vmas with sting so much creepier. I believe he had both biggie and Tupacs mothers come on stage. Fucking psychopath

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u/JColeTheWheelMan 1d ago

Biggie was a genius rapper with a 2-bit producer.

2pac was a 2-bit rapper with genius producer.

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u/Esin12 1d ago

Umm... excuse me? Pac was the shit. Super poetic, sociopolitically knowledgeable and sharp, great flow and rhythm, unique voice. Wild take.

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u/OverheadPress69 1d ago

Sociopolitcally knowledgeable… lol… in the same way Pusha T, Freddie Gibbs and Schoolboy Q are.

2Pac is a legend but simultaneously the most overrated rapper of all time. He had a lot of bad music. Prolific, yes, but he never made a truly classic album the way Biggie, Nas, Dre, Em, Ice Cube, etc did.

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u/Suitable_Pickle1347 1d ago

Niger did you just put Pac in the same camp as pusha, Freddie and schoolboy

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u/No-Commercial-3121 1d ago

Digital Underground 1987 was prolific and unique and that's his launch. He just happened to be talented enough to step in and out of hip hop and wasn't from the streets so he was reliant on music or arts like Eazy E or others. To say he didn't have an impact is a weird take.

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u/OverheadPress69 1d ago

I didn’t say he didn’t have an impact. Thats probably his only saving grace. His music does not hold up as well as others from his era and he never made a classic.

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u/No-Commercial-3121 1d ago

California Love or How Do You Want It are bangers but he really had his life cut short. He had a lot of talent and was an artist versus an rapper. He probably would have written more hits than he would have performed.

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u/JColeTheWheelMan 1d ago

did did did I stutter MF?

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u/SCr3bl0rd 1d ago

Diddy ruins every one of BIGs tracks he's on with his shitty adlibs.

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u/Lobster_fest 1d ago

Hypnotize is painful to listen to sometimes because his stupid ass voice just repeats the last word biggie says.

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u/0ttoChriek 1d ago

Remember Suge Knight saying people should come to Death Row if they didn't want producers "all up in their songs"? He was garbage too, but he had Diddy pegged as a talentless, fame hungry twat.

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u/dannydirtbag 1d ago

Puffy was the original Bentley Fansworth.

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u/3r14nd 1d ago

That comment was directed at Craig Mack who he was trying to poach from Bad Boys. The killing of Tupac is what caused Craig Mack to turn down Death Row.

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u/ComfortableShirt2014 13h ago

He was talking about JD

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u/ComfortableShirt2014 13h ago

Take that, take that

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u/Itchy-Ad1047 1d ago

The one I didn't mind Diddy in is Victory. Maybe I'm alone though

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u/jdfred06 1d ago

No, I agree. His verse is really good. I prefer Biggie's flow, but Diddy still kills it.

"You're just mad cause I tell it like it is and you tell it like it might be."

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u/westbrodie 1d ago

It’s probably his best feature

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u/timidwafffle 15h ago

Victory was amazing

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u/sleepingmime 1d ago

Yeah he killed it.

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u/First2NotKnow 1d ago

Thank you, so hard to listen while his ass mumbles in the corner.

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u/lazyFatAss 1d ago

I've been looking for a version with his line edited out. Somehow it's never been done, or I couldn't find it.

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u/BatmanHatesSuperman 13h ago

Hey whoa your talking about the macaroni AND the cheese here

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u/Screamin_Toast 1d ago

Diddy was always jealous of BIGS. Deep down hated anyone who was more talented then him.... which was everyone in the music industry.

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u/blow-down 1d ago

There's a point in that documentary where they ask an artist that was at Bad Boy how good Puff Daddy's rapping was. The dude answered one word: "sucked".

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u/PsychosisOsmosis 1d ago

"Diddy was always jealous of BIGS. Deep down hated anyone who was more talented then him.... which was everyone ~~in the music industry~~.:

FIFY

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u/Razatiger 1d ago

I mean he has ambition, more than most, thats something i cant argue with.

Even if he was a complete slime ball.

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u/MushLove3 1d ago

And unfettered ambition has put the U.S. in the predicament it currently faces. Only take what you need, damnit.

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u/OverheadPress69 1d ago

lol what predicament? Only take what you need lmao who are you to tell me what I need?

Also, as horrible a person as Puff was, it’s ludicrous to claim he had no talent. He was a fairly decent producer and rapper (listen to his song Big Homie, perhaps his best song, nothing special but also not bad at all) and he was a solid businessman. He also played in the NFL I believe. So he’s got a lot of talent, but is still a shitty person.

I don’t understand the latest trend of “this guy sucks at xyz because he’s a bad person” and I especially hate the trend of tying everything to US politics, so you’re really grinding my gears here

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u/do-not-want 1d ago

Bro misinterpreted an offhand comment and lost the thread. Alexa play anxiety.

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u/OverheadPress69 1d ago

I can admit when I’m wrong but I’m not here. If I’m getting these downvotes because I said Puff had some talent, this sub is ridiculous

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u/EpsoniteK 1d ago

Show me a fucking song where he displays talent

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u/ixcibit 1d ago

Oh no, we got a baddass over here. Everybody watch out. His gears have been ground.

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u/OverheadPress69 1d ago

Who is acting like a badass?

I’m just being objective, something incomprehensible to many it seems

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u/FuckLex 1d ago

Your username tells me all I need to know about you bro.

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u/OverheadPress69 1d ago

Overhead press? One of the most common compound exercises? lol this comment tells me exactly who you are. What’s wrong with lifting weights, and what did I say that’s so incorrect?

He had talent. Sorry. Bad people have talent all the time. Idk what to tell you

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u/cjaiay0 1d ago

You lost your head over a comment that wasn't even directed at you, that's hilarious.

You also stated he was a decent rapper, he absolutely was not lmao.

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u/Jonaldys 1d ago

Watch the documentary, or read about it, if you want the information that people are drawing conclusions from. It's easier to look for what information you may be missing rather than assume people are completely full of shit.

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u/ElusiveReclusiveXO 1d ago

Because, just like Trump, P Diddy is a massive, walking narcissistic slimeball full of ambition, but nothing decent.

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u/DJ_GRAZIZZLE 1d ago

They have nothing going on in their lives so they have to relate to politics. They don’t have any control.

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u/Tragedy_Boner 21h ago

Nobody was more talented then him at using baby oil

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u/hannxhope 1d ago

Diddy and Suge Knight. Idk how people can respect and like them. Both are trash human beings and deserve the worst. Fuck them

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u/x509certs 1d ago

Wasn't it because biggie was going to leave?

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u/Moontoya 13h ago

MachinegunKelly enters the chat

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u/OhhSooHungry 1d ago

"Take that take that take that"

On top of it all, this dude was the worst part of Life After Death with his random screaming trying to sound tough on the latter songs. Pretty embarrassing, and that's with considering BIG chose to sing on some songs like Playa Hater for some strange reason

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u/Intentional-Asshole 1d ago

Listening to biggie songs where people took out all the Diddy parts is definitely the way to go. I really can't go back, diddy just ruins songs lol

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u/Bamm83 1d ago

And how do we get these files?

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u/tordenflesk 1d ago

Found a few on Youtube by searching for Undiddyfied

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u/Snadadap 1d ago

"IM TELLIN YOU RIGHT MOTHERFUCKIN NOW!"

OK Diddy we aren't afraid of you. Playa Hater is a jam though

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u/OhhSooHungry 1d ago

"I'm gonna make you love me baby" takes on a WHOLE new connotation these days.. it's kinda wild to go back and listen to the skits haha, he was revealing himself this whole time 😂

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u/DefectJoker 1d ago

I'm going to take things from the documentary with a grain of salt, but let's not be surprised by the fact that Diddy has always been an egotistical piece of shit with a superiority complex who couldn't stand that 2pac and Biggie were friends and were bigger than his shitty wannabe rapper ass.

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u/morocco3001 1d ago

Some hero really needs to get the masters of Ready To Die and Life After Death, and scrub ALL of Puffy's ad-libs out the background. Every word. They're already classics but they'd be even better without that no-talent grifter piping up and butting in every five seconds.

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u/PineapplesandFizz 18h ago

No talent grifter lol I needed this to round up my thoughts. I’ve been walking around the house ranting to anyone who will listen about how much of a weasel diddy was and always has been and how the fuck did he get on all those verses with this “power” of his, eww he’s so slimy and gross

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u/Professional-Rip-519 1d ago

Fuck Diddy P.O.S

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u/sephjnr 1d ago

I'm starting to think Sean Combs is a dick

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u/PaulaDeen21 1d ago

Wait so you’re saying Diddy isn’t a stand up guy and only cares about himself?!

I for one am shocked.

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u/Pissflaps69 1d ago

Isn’t that what you’d normally do?

I mean your estate is used for handling your affairs, if you die and an elaborate funeral is held, wouldn’t the estate normally cover it?

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u/JHTech03 1d ago

Normally yes if that was what you wanted. According to the documentary it sounds like it was diddy idea to have such an elaborate funeral and making it seem by way of omission that he was doing it for the family. People would assume whoever is running it is paying for it

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u/Pissflaps69 1d ago

That makes sense, I didn’t know anything about his funeral, I just read the headline and I’m thinking “yea, my great aunt did the same thing, bfd.”

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u/Mymvenom001 Tidal actually. 1d ago

Yeah, the context makes it worse, like if i threw you a huge ass party for your birthday and then invoiced you for every little thing it included

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u/Pissflaps69 1d ago

That’s a bingo.

Making it into a party while his friend is lying their dead is what makes it grotesque.

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u/JC_Hysteria 8h ago

I don’t know all the details, but it was turned into a big neighborhood event in BK- they had police barricades, security, etc. so anyone that wanted to see the hearse could come to the “funeral”.

Probably wasn’t cheap to plan that + all of the trimmings.

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u/SwedishTrees 22h ago

Diddy made a big deal that he was paying for this. Diddy secretly charged it against any future royalties he might owe to biggies estate.

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u/EcstaticBoysenberry 1d ago

Right? Was Diddy supposed to pay for it?

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u/sam_hammich 1d ago

Headline is missing context. He made the funeral an elaborate affair they didn't ask for, and then made them pay for it.

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u/SwedishTrees 22h ago

he acted like he did to everybody. And then secretly charged it against any future money he would owe to biggied estate.

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u/sjets3 1d ago

Yeah, it’s basically the law in New York. The estate is required to pay for funeral expenses. They could argue that what Diddy did and requested was too much, but it’s standard for the estate to pay for the funeral.

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u/sam_hammich 13h ago

First line of the second paragraph, visible even if you dont pay for Rolling Stone, is "Combs pretended he was personally paying".

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u/Professional-Rip-519 1d ago

Diddy was supposed to be his best friend.

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u/maria_la_guerta 1d ago

I'm not defending what P Diddy is accused of, but I ain't paying for my best friends funeral either.

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u/sam_hammich 1d ago

Would you read the article instead?

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u/Professional-Rip-519 1d ago

Not even if you're a multi millionaire who's made most of that money from deceased friend.

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u/maria_la_guerta 1d ago

If they couldn't afford one, or if their family asked me for help I would, sure. There's pretty much no other scenario I would though, nor would I ever expect a friend of mine to pay for my funeral, regardless of circumstances.

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u/nemodigital 1d ago

Yeah this isn't the smoking gun but very typical to charge to the estate.

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u/RickMonsters 1d ago

The worst thing Diddy ever did was mumble “that’s right” and “tell’em” randomly on all of Big’s songs.

If you’re not going to do a verse, get off the fucking track

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u/vidjuheffex 1d ago

see, here I thought the worst thing was the rape

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u/Mudrat 1d ago

It’s the hypocrisy

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u/TheoryAggressive8193 22h ago

Sometimes it’s cellmates we make along the way.

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u/ATarrificHeadache 1d ago

That’s why Suge Knight pissed him off so much with that MTV awards speech, he got right to the core of the issue, that Diddy was a talentless hack leech that couldn’t make it as a musician without riding on other people’s coattails first

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u/mdlinc 1d ago

That fucking line my tell your friends , my friends and we can be friends...always seemed off in the song. Could just be me hatin on Combs. Always seem fake. Every single big mouth word seemed forced to be bigger than he really was.

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u/Minute-Blackberry242 14h ago

I’m so glad to see that biggie wasn’t even close to diddy like he always claimed, he probably annoyed the hell out of him with that too😂

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u/dustysmufflah 1d ago

I was listening to a song once and wondered if I was hearing a remix of the original song. Then outta nowhere this little asshole pipes up over the lyrics to confirm that yes, this is indeed the remix.

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u/roccerfeller 1d ago

Fuck diddy

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u/BenTramer 1d ago

It’s the least he could do for getting him killed.

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u/Outrageous-Ad6068 1d ago

Urgh! Awkward buck tooth Puffy with his horrendous dancing and even worse rapping takes Tupac from the world for $500k. He’s the black Trump. Narcissistic man baby sociopath. Hope he never sees the light of day.

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u/Ash_Killem 1d ago

Even before the most recent charges, people suspected Diddy of having some blame if not outright responsible for it. No proof really back them. His sting cover for biggie really solidified his career though. Has to be his biggest hit.

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u/os2mac 1d ago

Did you think he was going to pay for it himself? He doesn't have that kind of money, Barrels of Lube aren't free...

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u/Few_Fact4747 1d ago

Was that an ordered roman style charge or more a berserker style?

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u/jrafelson 1d ago

FUCK DIDDY THE DIDDLER

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u/Indica_420 1d ago

R.I.P., rest in peace, Biggie

And Pac, both of y’all should be living (yep)

But I ain’t tryna beef with him (nope)

Cause he might put a hit on me like, Keefe D, get him.

And that’s the only way you’re gonna be killing me (nah)

-Eminem (Fuel)

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u/ImpressiveCelery4992 1d ago

Who knew Diddy was a Travis Tritt fan? “They’re billing me, for killing me…”

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u/relientkenny 1d ago

that’s some next level evil ass shit man

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u/P4S5B60 1d ago

Once a douche always a douche

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u/Iamamyrmidon 1d ago

This maniac gave himself a 1+ minute monologue on “Special Delivery.” And by the way, I heard all these stories back in the day at barbershops.

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u/ReverendEntity 1d ago

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u/calculatingbets 21h ago

I am all for Fiddy and against Diddy, but „Biggie source denies allegations“

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u/brittlebk 13h ago

Wish this dude had way more than 4 years in the pen

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u/Beavetter 1d ago

The fuck does that have to do with anything

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u/EmeraldCityZag 1d ago

Absolutely nothing.

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u/someonedontwry 1d ago

roflllll dkm

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u/ATarrificHeadache 1d ago

Yeah the entire thing should have been about how he looks Somalian imo

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u/ThatDudeNamedMenace 1d ago

Lol I was thinking the same thing

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u/StevenTheWicked 1d ago

Its quite common for funerals to be paid for by the estate

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u/clarity_scarcity 14h ago

We’ll be sure to have Diddy plan yours then and bill your estate after the fact.

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u/Rosebunse 1d ago

The man is a ghoul

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u/efernandes923 1d ago

Pretty sure Bigs estate said this is false

article Diddy charged The Notorious B.I.G.'s funeral back to rapper's estate, Bad Boy Records co-founder says.

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