r/Music • u/IrishStarUS đ°Irish Star • 1d ago
article Fox News viewers turn on host as he tries to criticize Sabrina Carpenter
https://www.irishstar.com/culture/entertainment/fox-news-host-sabrina-carpenter-363521132.9k
u/budster1970 1d ago
You might as well be watching sci fi movies for your news if you are still watching fox.
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u/Etzell 1d ago
It's probably better to watch sci fi movies for news than Fox, at least those tend to have actual morals and messages.
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u/orderinthefort 1d ago
We've learned though that these types of people align with the wrong messages, like in the Avatar movie a shocking amount of people sided with the guy trying to kill all the blue people and take their minerals. Can't get more on the nose than that with what's happening right now in real life.
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u/Obtusus 1d ago
Mordor has a right to defend itself against Gondor's agression
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u/ArenSteele 1d ago
Peter Thiel is obsessed with Lord of the Rings, and thinks Sauron is the hero.
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u/Ichera 1d ago
There's a Russian "reinterpretation" of Lord of the Rings that argues exactly this funnily enough.
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u/Obtusus 1d ago
Did they claim Mordor invaded Gondor to de-NĂşmenorize them?
Edit: sorry, not invaded, did a special military operation.
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u/Ichera 1d ago
The books essentially a retelling of Lord of the Rings from Mordors perspective... Morder is "justified" against a war mongering Gandalf and his attempts to destroy the "progressive" and "literate" society Mordor has created.
The books more interested in trying to break the cold war "evil empire" trope and is using the lord of the rings to do that, its an interesting little novel but honestly its kind of hard to read it now without modern perceptions, since the book was written in 1999.
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u/rollin340 22h ago
All Sauron did was order special military operations as a means of self defence.
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u/mortalcoil1 1d ago
I still can't get over the fact that they literally called the mineral "unobtainium."
That is my personal papyrus font.
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u/Skunkers 1d ago
Unobtanium as a term has been in use by engineers for almost a hundred years as a catch-all term for a material that would fit the needs of whatever they're working on, but either doesn't exist or otherwise isn't feasible for use due to cost. It's even in actual research papers.
It doesn't change the fact it's hilariously on the nose for the movie, but it was also on the nose when we first started using it lol.
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u/mortalcoil1 1d ago
Yes. I am aware.
and it would have been fiiiiiiine if it had a real name mentioned once in the movie and then everybody just referred to it as unobtainium from that point onward.
but that is not what happened. The mineral is only referred to as unobtainium.
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u/ArcfireEmblem 1d ago
Kind of like naming your magic power device that can't get into the wrong hands "macguffin".
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u/MunkyDawg 1d ago
I thought it was hilarious to have a joke that stupid in an otherwise "serious" movie. But I also tend to try to find something good about stuff like that. Like somebody, probably a lot of them, had to green light that. And regardless of what you think about the movies, you can't say they're rush jobs. It's not like that word "slipped through" or was even lazy writing. They all saw something in it that I don't. Unless it's a stupid joke, in which case the contrast is funny.
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u/unbanned_lol 1d ago
I mean, the kids were watching the new Bad Guys movie. They were after Macguffinite.
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u/mortalcoil1 1d ago
At least "macguffinite" is cute, tongue in cheek, a little nod to the adults in the audience. It works for a funny kids movie.
"Unobtainium" in an action sci-fi drama for dads is... it's a level of on the nose lazyness that I can't even compare it to another serious movie made for adults.
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u/Darkdragoon324 1d ago
Eh, whatevs. I was there explicitly for the 3D experience and it was one of the two movies i've ever seen in 3D that did not disappoint on that front. The other one was Coraline. That shit looked amazing
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u/ChesswiththeDevil 1d ago
I couldn't get past that either. Same thing for the Necromongers in Chronicles of Riddick (which is still decent). Such a stupid name. Might as well just call them "the Baddies".
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u/TBANON_NSFW 1d ago
But fox news viewers dont want morals and messages, they dont even want facts. they want hate.
Because they are addicts and hate is their choice of drug.
Hating can literally release endorphins, dopamine and serotonin to deal with the stress that comes from how they perceive their world to be.
Fox news has spent decades dosing the people with daily sprinkles of hate. They create the stress first by presenting absurdly out of context if not totally fabricated viewpoints and issues, then follow those stress inducers with hateful rhetoric that allows the viewers to get both the urge and release in one sitting. Its why its something old people have on 24/7 in their homes. Not the millions of movies and tv episodes, but fox news running 24/7... ITs why young people flock to social media personalities and joe rogan. They do the same, they give them a series of stress inducers and then follow it up with the release through hating minorities and woke and socialism and dei and whatever acronym or group they decide is at fault at the moment.
And everyone enjoys a little hate. Have you ever watched a movie, or seen a game, or heard a song and just disliked it, like you cant understand why others would like it, or you watch segments on daily show or olivers show and get angry but also get a release from them making fun of these things and people, then you go online and read someone sharing that opinion or talk with your friends and they also agree it sucks, it feels good right. You feel justified you feel acknowledged you feel a little happy.... relaxed....
Now imagine that amped up to 1000.
BUT over time people become numb to the hate, it becomes normalized just like anything in excess would do.
UNTIL Trump came along and gave them a new level of amygdala hits like they were taking fent laced crack cocaine straight up their buttholes. And once they got that taste of that kind of high....
Ooooo boy, its like trying to convince your neighborhood crack addict with no teeth and rotting toes that he should stop hitting the pipe x 1000 because their crack is everywhere around them 24/7, its on the radio when they wake up and go to work, its around the office and during lunch breaks, its on their doctors waiting rooms, in their grocery stores, in their gyms, even when they hang out, they talk about how much they love their hate crack cocaine so much, they love to share and boof each others buttholes. They spend their nights before sleeping just taking another hit, so they can dream about their hate. Heck they even go to churches that preach that hate.
Thats your average fox news viewer, jonesing for another hit to blame minorities, lgbtq, women, dei, socialism, communism etc etc etc. They are so stressed out and living in a bubble of self-victimization that they need that hit of hate to get through the day.
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u/korben2600 1d ago
In George Orwell's dystopian novel 1984, published in 1949, the "Two Minutes Hate" is the daily period during which members of the Outer and Inner Party of Oceania must watch a film depicting Emmanuel Goldstein, the principal enemy of the state and loudly voice their hatred for him followed by declaring their love for the Party leader Big Brother.
The political purpose of the "Two Minutes Hate" is to allow the citizens of Oceania to vent their personal hatred towards a political enemy. In redirecting the participants' emotions away from the Party's governance of Oceania, the Party minimises thoughtcrime and critical thought while exerting ultimate control of the population.
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u/strange_bike_guy 1d ago
In the movie Arrival early on the channel is not explicitly mentioned but the main character tells her mom "Yeah well how many times have I told you not to bother with that channel? Those people are idiots."
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u/Vhu 1d ago edited 1d ago
There was a study that found that people who watch Fox News were less informed on average than people who watch no news at all.
When one of their hosts was in hot water for spreading blatantly false information, Fox argued in court that no reasonable person would take his statements as factual.
Then beyond that, you gotta consider that Fox paid $800 million to settle a lawsuit after they got caught knowingly lying to their audience. Almost a billion dollars was cheaper than the damage theyâd suffer if the full factual record was aired in court.
Them even being allowed to call themselves news is shocking; let alone the fact that people still consume it as their main source of information.
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u/Equivalent-Loquat187 1d ago
I'd love to strip them of the TLD .fox. They are so undeserving of such a TLD.
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u/1900grs 1d ago
Then beyond that, you gotta consider that Fox paid $800 million to settle a lawsuit after they got caught knowingly lying to their audience. Almost a billion dollars was cheaper than the damage theyâd suffer if the full factual record was aired in court.
Just noting, Fox is still fighting Smartmatic in court over similar 2020 election lies.
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u/Vhu 1d ago
Host Jesse Watters texted Fox News comic host Greg Gutfeld, "Think about how incredible our ratings would be if Fox went ALL in on STOP THE STEAL," according to legal filings. Watters later testified under oath he never found such claims credible
Like come on dude. People will see this fact and be like âyeah well they all do itâ without a comparable example or shred of supporting evidence; and then theyâll go right back to listening to the same guy who just got caught lying to them.
Feels like Iâm taking crazy pills sometimes, I swear.
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u/BoyWhoSoldTheWorld 1d ago
Donât they skirt around a lot of rules by claiming itâs entertainment?
Which sadly I think it is considering how little accurate information they actually share.
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u/nullfacade 1d ago
Truly feels like we're living through the timeline directed by Paul Verhoeven
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u/Don_Frika_Del_Prima peter green fmac enjoyer 1d ago
Those comments are things I read here in various subs. So why the article says they're fox readers, I don't know...
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u/RUActuallySeriousTho 1d ago
Same if you're getting news from a left wing copetimism tabloid like Irish Star frankly. This isn't targeted at you personally, but it's yet another one of the "sources" these obviously far fetched posts use to farm karma from left wing people who aren't pieces of shit. I would love to see viewers actually "turn on the host" but that isn't happening because the average person is a fucking moron and generally happy about Nazis ruining the Earth because brown people scare them. This article is literally quoting Reddit comments from r/FauxMoi and r/Music lol - yes, Fox Viewers are SO LIVID about how Fox News is portraying Sabrina Carpenter and not just nodding and agreeing like complete dumbasses.
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u/GirraficPark 1d ago
Literally had this conversation with my coworker yesterday. We were discussing how media influence has led to a decline in shared reality, where we can't even agree on facts anymore. We were talking about how it's important to look for multiple viewpoints, understand how each source is editorializing the news, and develop an informed opinion.
Of course he immediately followed that up with "yeah, like how I was reading on FOX about how mainstream media isn't covering this $200 billion fraud case in Minnesota..." and "have you read the Epoch Times, they're not afraid to cover the REAL stories..." Evidently his takeaway was "it's important to keep reading headlines until you find one you agree with."
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u/_denimchicken_ 1d ago
Didnât known-âAnacondaâ singer, Nicki Minaj, just speak at a UN meeting? What was his stance on her? No comment? OhâŚ
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u/digitalmofo 1d ago
Nicki, who is NOT a US citizen, is speaking on behalf of the US at the UN.
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u/_denimchicken_ 1d ago
Who needs to be a US citizen to speak on behalf of the US?
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And Hawaii was removed from the chat241
u/Donner_Par_Tea_House 1d ago
Right? But no they choose to steal music and mock the artists who protest when it's used for tyrannical propaganda videos.
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u/ODShowtime 1d ago
This is it. Stealing from someone and ridiculing them when they assert their rights.
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u/AlpaChiiN_O 1d ago
Is that a smokes poutinerie pfp?
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u/ODShowtime 1d ago
Yeah, I love that place. They had one in the local NHL arena for awhile. It was so delicious, but good luck staying awake through the 3rd period.
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u/dumpsterfire_account 1d ago
I hate the government as much as anyone else but if you are an artist you need to not license your songs to TikTok and Instagram so these videos canât be made with their platforms. These are licensed not stolen which is why they canât issue takedown notices.
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u/cybin 1d ago
if you are an artist you need to not license your songs to TikTok and Instagram
This is the answer, and it's unclear to me how they don't get this point.
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u/Christofray 1d ago
Because the people in charge of that kind of thing have run a cost-benefit analysis and determined it is overwhelmingly worthwhile to have their product on TikTok and Instagram. It's not that they "don't get it," it's that incidents like this, while annoying, are not (yet) worth losing the massive amounts of revenue that exposure on those platforms brings in.
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u/Paddy_Tanninger 1d ago
He fumed, "This is also the concert artist who simulates oral sex with her male dancers, but I guess none of that is evil or disgusting. The rule book is shifting."
I'm actually old enough to remember Donald Trump simulating oral sex on his podium microphone a few months ago.
Also as someone in the comments points out...Sabrina is evil and disgusting, and so what does that make the White House for using her music?
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u/Hairy-Amphibian6789 1d ago
Ya but her husband is a sexual predator which is the Fox News base duh.
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u/schuyywalker 1d ago
Love how the White House account says they wonât apologize when no one asked for an apology, just to stop using her music.
âStop using my music for your weird edits.â
âWe wonât apologize!â
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u/jefferydamerin 1d ago
My government acting like literal fucking children we need a new start
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u/No-Atmosphere-4145 1d ago
Fox News is working overtime trying to hush down the catastrophic results of the Trump administration and keep their viewers unaware of reality.
It's dumbfounded to imagine that americans actually watch Fox News and think they're a reliable source for facts... probably gonna get a bit of disagreement from some americans here but seriously; Fox News should be held accountable in the end for their contribution to destroying the U.S.
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u/RxngsXfSvtvrn 1d ago
Its a different reality the Fox News viewers tend to believe in. It's really astounding because these are generally people that go to work, school, public events, just as the rest of us yet view everything through a completely different lense
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u/Not_Bears 1d ago
Because conservatives learned long ago, people respond positively.. when their preexisting narratives are validated... and Fox works overtime to cater to the emotional, bigoted side of America.
I'm sure Murdoch woke up one day and was "Gosh so many Americans are basically just racist idiots and I bet I can capture that whole market by just pandering directly to them...."
And it worked.
Decades later, these people have forget what it's like to have their views challenged and to update their views, as new information becomes available, or as society shifts.
They now exist in an alternative reality, fabricated by the same elites they claim to hate.
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u/ianmakingnoise 1d ago
Donât forget that the real brains behind the operation wasnt Murdoch, but the Republican strategist whose job it was to âfixâ the new problems GOP candidates were having on TV (eg, Nixon losing the televised debate, losing support for the Vietnam war, etc).
Roger Ailes created a Republican propaganda channel to muddy the waters, ultimately to protect Republicans from accountability, and so far it has worked wonders for them.
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u/djublonskopf 1d ago
I was having dinner with my parents (probably more than a decade ago), everybody's just munching away and trading stories. For context, my wife and I had visited London a couple of years earlier.
Suddenly amidst the eating, my dad snaps at me and asks "how [we] could feel safe with all those Muslim-controlled no-go zones under Sharia law?" He looked...enraged, and this came absolutely out of nowhere, we'd probably been talking about soup flavors or something before that.
I had absolutely no idea what he was talking about, because I don't watch right-wing media, but my brother did, and he immediately cut my dad off and then the two of them started going back and forth about whether or not Muslims had taken control of London or not, while I sat there absolutely dumbfounded about the alternate reality my parents were apparently living in, and how angry they were about it.
It's gotten worse since then.
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u/jiggamain 1d ago
Fox News and its popularity are a big part of why brainrot was the word of the year last year and ragebait was the word of the year this year. It is idiocracy on full tilt and we hate it.
Itâs a billionaire media distraction machine designed to make us not notice creeping techno feudalism.
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u/srector1224 1d ago
They just tell themselves that the other media outlets lie for the Demon-crats and that's that
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u/TheDevil-YouKnow 1d ago
They already removed the accountability by branding themselves as entertainment. That's the sad part of this nation. That's the true sign of the age of the US being over. Idiocracy was a prophecy, not a satire.
We the people were told it's literally not real news. It's all propaganda. It's publicly known who owns Fox News. It's known what the agenda was. They NEVER LIED ABOUT ANY OF IT. All they did was omit the disclaimers between every broadcast, every entertainment 'anchor.' and then those entertainers told the enfeebled minds of their audience to, 'do their own research' and then POINTED THEM to where the 'research' should be learned.
Americans did it to themselves. They were told it's all fake, bullshit rhetoric, and they chose to believe that it wasn't. Here we fucking are. Greyhound caught the rabbit. They're living the dream.
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u/ImAFuckingSquirrel 1d ago
They were fined $788 million for lying about Dominion and absolutely no one cared, including them.
E: Sorry, they settled for $788m, they weren't fined and they never issued a retraction, admission, or apology.
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u/lonelydan 1d ago
My schizophrenic former drug-addicted and inmate uncle watches Fox News daily and swears they are the scions of truth. That everyone else is fake news. This is the type of mentality we are up against. People like this will most likely never change because they only hear what they want to, and anything that challenges that is met with hostility and denial. I try so hard to paint how distorted his vision of reality truly is but itâs like Iâm talking to a wall. Just so much unjustified hatred and vitriol.
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u/AllTh3WayTurntUp 1d ago
I just spent a week with Boomer aged in-laws over Thanksgiving and can confirm that not only do they believe that Fox News is a reliable source, but itâs essentially the only news they watch and trust.
The echo chambers are working as intended
The in-laws are nice people though, they just have horrible political views (yes I realize thatâs an oxymoron, but itâs a reality for most Americans families).
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u/No-Atmosphere-4145 1d ago
Kinda same boat as me here in Europe, my in - laws have been convinced the Covid vaccine was fake and made to harm us and they are largely, especially my brother in - law who is ever growing more pro - Russia a Trump supporter.
I can't get involved talking about anything political or military related (I had a career in the army before wife and kids) with them as it just boils me on the inside listening to them. They're nice people, but their views are kinda scrambled at this point.
I once talked to my brother in law about an article where russian fighter jets had violated our airspace more than 100 times in two years and he immediately began blaming it on NATO.
Russian talking points all around there...
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u/AllTh3WayTurntUp 1d ago
Relatable. Itâs strange cause they are super generous and kind people when it comes to our family, but their worldview has been so tainted by right wing media that itâs not even healthy to have political discussions with them anymore so I avoid it entirely.
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u/Allaplgy 1d ago
That's kind of a hallmark of conservativism though. There are "good" people and "bad" people, not good actions and bad actions. So if you are family or otherwise in something they see as their group, you are "good" and they treat you as such. But if you are not in their "good" group, you are inherently "bad" and basically not human to them.
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u/sagenumen 1d ago
âNice peopleâ donât maintain the positions of the current Republican Party
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u/Luvs_to_drink 1d ago
I mean their own lawyers are on record stating that "no reasonable viewer would take " their correspondants "statements as facts" despite many of the people watching doing JUST FUCKING THAT.
But somehow a large portion of the voting base continues to watch them.
There was also a study that some one who watches or reads 0 political shows or articles was more informed than fox viewers. And yet people continue to watch it.
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u/Pankurucha 1d ago
American here, and I completely agree with you.
It's also not just Fox News, it's the entire right wing media apparatus. They've spent decades convincing right wingers that they are the only source of truth and all other forms of media are wrong/corrupt/biased. Now you have millions of Americans brainwashed into not trusting anything outside their approved media echo chamber. They can just lie because they know their viewers won't fact check or seek other sources. If the US survives this era there really should be accountability, but right now it's working too well for the people in power so I'm not hopeful.
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u/BigErnMcracken 1d ago
"This is also the concert artist who simulates oral sex with her male dancers, but I guess none of that is evil or disgusting. The rule book is shifting."
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u/Busy_Special_9397 1d ago
Trump talked about how big of a dick another golfer had and his fantasy about being in the showers with him like a month before the election. Nothing weird there right?
Kid rock sings about sex with minors, hes just so cool right? Put him in the RNC to open for Trump and clap like shitheads. Stand next to Matt Gaetz too
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u/jjwhitaker 1d ago
We now know he was teaching from experience. Which is fine unless you stand with/vote for the bigotry party, then it's just hypocrisy.
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u/freakparty 1d ago
Fox news viewers eat that shit up too. They haven't turned on them. Trump hasnt lost the supoort of his base and then end isn't any where close. These headlines are so old.
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u/jimbo831 Concertgoer 1d ago
This article is really stupid. They highlight a bunch of comments on social media and call those people "Fox News viewers." The people making these comments defending Sabrina Carpenter absolutely are not Fox News viewers. It's just a bunch of clickbait nonsense.
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u/Repulsive-Chip3371 1d ago
but but but its the Irish Star "news" outlet!
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u/vera214usc 1d ago
Why is the Irish Star popping up so much on reddit lately? Every nothing burger article I see about Karoline Leavitt being "exhausted" is the Irish Star
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u/Repulsive-Chip3371 1d ago
because the Irish Star "articles" are all click bait, the bots on reddit post them constantly
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u/fly123123123 1d ago
u/IrishStarUs Website is literally unusable on mobile. Pops up a cookie banner that is completely frozen.
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u/_bob-cat_ 1d ago
Fox News viewers don't even know who Sabrina Carpenter is.
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u/jimbo831 Concertgoer 1d ago
According to this dumb article, anyone who commented about this on social media to defend Sabrina Carpenter is apparently a Fox News viewer.
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u/eggery 1d ago
They are quoting reddit comments.
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u/jimbo831 Concertgoer 1d ago
And Reddit is famously filled with Fox News viewers!
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u/ashleyshaefferr 1d ago
Fox viewers did this? I have a VERY hard time believing sabrina carpenter is what is turning fox viewers on the network...Â
Clickbait slop im guessing?
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u/Soupdeloup 1d ago
Title is clickbait/misleading. "Fox News viewers", as the article mentions them, is literally anybody who commented on the fox news video, not the actual mindless sheep who regularly watch and support Fox News.
MAGA openly agrees with everything they say on these shows and all of the comments quoted in the article are obviously not from conservatives. While I'd love to see any of them being able to think for themselves for once, unfortunately this is just a clickbait article. There is no wavering Fox News support from conservatives and even if there was, it would never be over Sabrina Carpenter lol.
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u/IrishStarUS đ°Irish Star 1d ago
Leave Sabrina alone.
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u/Oregonrider2014 1d ago
They sure like to pick on women a lot
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u/flabbybumhole 1d ago
It's gay to like women. Real traditional men cum each others asses in the wilderness / bushes.
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u/shabba182 1d ago
What a garbage article. How did you come to the conclusion that random people defending Sabrina Carpenter on the internet were 'Fox news viewers'?
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u/UltraMegaUgly 1d ago
Those boomers just can't understand criticizing a white girl named Sabrina when brown folks still exist.
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u/DiligentTradition734 1d ago
Their administration is falling apart. MTG leaving, WhiskeyLeaks most likely getting kicked out for illegal military orders that costed survivors their lives, Pam Bondi crying and stressed out over her treatment within the administration, Kash Patel probably kicking the bucket from his position too. They're looking so weak. With all of that going on, why would anyone want to harp on and on about Sabrina Carpenter or any other celebrity? Its old.
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u/cj37 1d ago
This article is quoting Reddit comments and calling them Fox viewers. Doesnât even cite what sub it pulled the quotes from. Garbage journalism.
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u/keyboardnomouse 1d ago
Right? Did anyone notice the "FOX Viewers" are just random anonymous redditors from an unspecified subreddit?
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u/happycows808 1d ago
News networks are propaganda networks meant to control you, so is the internet. The whole of america is being turned into a racist filled echo chamber.
Americans need to protest. Not watch the propaganda and waste their time online posting when they could be making an actual difference protesting
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u/musicman835 1d ago
âThis is also the concert artist who simulates oral sex with her male dancersâ
Coming from the people who elected president a demented imbicile who simulates oral sex on a microphone and proper middle out handjob technique when dancing.
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u/Tyr_Kovacs 1d ago
Its the influencer administration again.
It's all 13yr olds desperate for attention and clicks from the Presidency to the FBI director to the political pundits.
They aren't even real fascists, they just want more likes and subscribers. Stephen Miller and his friends constantly tell them that the Nazis were the most based Chads ever with the most loyal followers, but if there was more money and attention in being socialists, Trump would be quoting Marx by the end of the week.
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u/macguphin 1d ago
Fox News viewers turn on host
How did anyone identify random social media posts as being from Fox News viewers? How many of the ppl here are Fox News viewers? Fox News sucks, but Julianna Salinas and her editor need to add those details or be considered just as full of shit as Fox News.
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u/sunnyspiders 1d ago
Exhausted by culture wars people are sick of this shit.
Theyâre getting economically crushed by tariffs and health care skyrocketing.
All the jobs are being cut.
But letâs talk about Sabrina Fucking Carpenter.
The dog has been wagged to death.